New Features, June 21st 2008

Andy · June 21, 2008

EDIT: Release Notes Updated!

1) When logged in, you will see the "save photo" icon on your photobar now - it's a brand new feature, for gallery owners (you!) only - your visitors won't see this option. To validate, use Visitor View, or log out of SmugMug, and have a look. For a long time, our customers have been asking to have the ability to save an photo while logged in, even though they've got that size blocked for customers and visitors, and so we made it happen. More will be coming shortly in our release notes, here: http://blogs.smugmug.com/release-notes/

2) Oh and we also cleaned up the photobar a bit, by removing all the size choices from it. Click on the main photo, get to lightbox - we'll automatically fill the browser window with the largest possible image without causing any scrolling.... and if you want another size after that, the sizes are at the top of that screen :thumb Example.

More to come :thumb

Oh and we will have more release notes, soon, as well :deal
http://blogs.smugmug.com/release-notes/

ZerOne · June 21, 2008

Size options icon empty
Since yesterday's changes, there is an issue with the icon that used to allow you to select different sizes when you roll over the image. If you are logged in, it shows 'Save Photo', but if you are not logged in, it appears as a blank icon containing no options. Surely the default behaviour should be to allow the user to select the various sizes as used to be the case before yesterday?

Andy · June 21, 2008

ZerOne wrote:

Since yesterday's changes, there is an issue with the icon that used to allow you to select different sizes when you roll over the image. If you are logged in, it shows 'Save Photo', but if you are not logged in, it appears as a blank icon containing no options. Surely the default behaviour should be to allow the user to select the various sizes as used to be the case before yesterday?

Yeah we're looking into that.. thanks. I expect we'll have it sorted soon, sorry about that! I've updated the first post here.

imajica · June 21, 2008

Is there a way to set the view photo sizes back when you roll your mouse over the photo. at least have an option to set it on or off depending on the preference of the person. I personally liked it, now I have to do 2 clicks to see the photo at full size or whatever size i want instead of doing it once from the main screen

Andy · June 21, 2008

Andy wrote:

KNOWN ISSUES/BUGS (we will be fixing them ASAP, sorry!)

* if you have camera info off, photorank off, and block originals, you'll see an empty photo bar (only in Visitor View or when logged out as a Visitor).

* Filenames aren't showing up properly in the bulk tools (like move photos, color effects, delete photos, etc... we fixed it but it's not fully live for you yet - it will be!

These are fixed and live

Andy · June 21, 2008

imajica wrote:

Is there a way to set the view photo sizes back when you roll your mouse over the photo. at least have an option to set it on or off depending on the preference of the person. I personally liked it, now I have to do 2 clicks to see the photo at full size or whatever size i want instead of doing it once from the main screen

I'm sorry there isn't

The first click makes it automatic, so it fills your window..... with no scrolling. Then if you want larger, you can always click more.
We're pretty sure that the simpler is better...and we think your viewers will think so, too.

Let's see how it works out, thanks!

Nikolai · June 21, 2008

Awesome job on cleaning UI!

dac1117 · June 21, 2008

imajica wrote:

Is there a way to set the view photo sizes back when you roll your mouse over the photo. at least have an option to set it on or off depending on the preference of the person. I personally liked it, now I have to do 2 clicks to see the photo at full size or whatever size i want instead of doing it once from the main screen

Ditto this request.

Brody · June 21, 2008

imajica wrote:

Is there a way to set the view photo sizes back when you roll your mouse over the photo. at least have an option to set it on or off depending on the preference of the person. I personally liked it, now I have to do 2 clicks to see the photo at full size or whatever size i want instead of doing it once from the main screen

Double Ditto!

If I understand this change correctly, and I hope I don't, one of the best features of SmugMug has been defeated. To make sure I understand it correctly... When looking at a photo album in the SmugMug style, we can no longer have the thumbs on the left and the images on the right, and be able to vary the size of the displayed image on the right. Is this correct? You click on the photo to get to the size option, and you lose access to the thumbnails and the versatility of being able to click around through the images via the thumbnails since your screen is now filled with the big screen with the itty bitty buttons up top. While this big screen guy is functional when needed, it's not exactly aesthetically pleasing - I feel like I'm dropping to DOS from Windows.

I really hope you tell me I'm wrong because almost everyone I've conviced to use SmugMug - friends, family and co-workers, that was the part of the design they like the best. Simple, easy, and attractive.

Please tell me what I'm missing. Thanks for you help.

adadx6 · June 21, 2008

Expert Photo Arrange
Thank you for reactivating the expert photo arrange option! It took me hours to figure out how I wanted to rearrange my gallery and with this great feature, just a few minutes to actually do the work. Great job on all of the changes....keep up the good work!

aerialphoto · June 21, 2008

Andy wrote:

2) Oh and we also cleaned up the photobar a bit, by removing all the size choices from it.

Yuck, yuck, yuck, YUCK

Gimmie my choices back. PLEASE!

Andy · June 21, 2008

Brody wrote:

When looking at a photo album in the SmugMug style, we can no longer have the thumbs on the left and the images on the right, and be able to vary the size of the displayed image on the right. Is this correct?

Not correct. The sizes are all still there

Just click the main photo. Now, you've got a larger photo filling your browser window. Want bigger even? Go for it - XL, X2, X3, O sizes are at the top. Try it, here:

http://cmac.smugmug.com/gallery/2504559_f3ta9#131487110_FdKeW

Andy · June 21, 2008

aerialphoto wrote:

Yuck, yuck, yuck, YUCK

Gimmie my choices back. PLEASE!

Hi Scott, can you tell us how you used these? What did you like about having those size choices there?

Thanks!

aerialphoto · June 21, 2008

Andy wrote:

2) Oh and we also cleaned up the photobar a bit, by removing all the size choices from it.

Yuck, yuck, yuck, YUCK

Gimmie my choices back. PLEASE!

Edit: This causes more clicks for me, not less! Now I have to click on the picture, let it fill the page, then I have to find the bar at the top of the screen with the sizes and click again. Before it was hover, click, done. Simple, clean, and quick.

Andy · June 21, 2008

aerialphoto wrote:

Yuck, yuck, yuck, YUCK

Gimmie my choices back. PLEASE!

Edit: This causes more clicks for me, not less! Now I have to click on the picture, let it fill the page, then I have to find the bar at the top of the screen with the sizes and click again. Before it was hover, click, done. Simple, clean, and quick.

So did you routinely click for a size that was either larger, or smaller, than you browser window?

aerialphoto · June 21, 2008

Andy wrote:

Hi Scott, can you tell us how you used these? What did you like about having those size choices there? Thanks!

You caught me in mid-edit

I have some galleries (I admit not many) with photo-samples that I gave instructions to just hover and click on "original" to see the original sizes without having to force people to download (ie:save) the images.

I also have a gallery set up to store images I use in a couple of photo forums I participate in. I'd click on the size I wanted to show on the forum and copy the URL. I realize I can change the URL's -M, -L, -XL, etc...but it was simple and easy. Now I have multiple steps to go through.

aerialphoto · June 21, 2008

Andy wrote:

So did you routinely click for a size that was either larger, or smaller, than you browser window?

Every day

aerialphoto · June 21, 2008

Andy...

Idea: Re-implement the different sizes but offer a way to toggle the feature on/off (default off) like the "camera info" feature is. I realize there's some discussion about "feature bloat", but this kind of customization is why a lot of us are on Smugmug in the first place

Here's an example of a page I have set up where the option to just quickly click on a bigger size (whether it fit the screen or not) was nice: http://aerialphoto.smugmug.com/gallery/5023688_qbUDX

It used to be simple to bring up a full-size image (hover, click, done), the viewer now has to click, wait for the image to load, then find the sizes at the top of the screen, click again, wait, then view. Simple? Less clicks? Nope, and nope.

In the grand scheme of things this isn't that big a deal I suppose, but it illustrates my point.

Luc De Jaeger · June 21, 2008

So far, so good but how do people know they can click the photo to enlarge it? From my experience almost nobody knows that a click will enlarge the image... Also, most people I consulted even don't hover over the photo with their mouse... I wonder if a message 'click to enlarge' would make sense.

Luc

jasonscottphoto · June 21, 2008

Luc De Jaeger wrote:

So far, so good but how do people know they can click the photo to enlarge it? From my experience almost nobody knows that a click will enlarge the image... Also, most people I consulted even don't hover over the photo with their mouse... I wonder if a message 'click to enlarge' would make sense.

Luc

I agree, this would be nice. Not sure where the right place to put it would be, but anyway...

Markjay · June 21, 2008

Save photo only when logged in, I hope?
I have been away from my gallery for a while... busy with "other things" and came back to notice today that when I'm logged in, there is now an option for me to save an image in Full res. Can you tell me for certain this is ONLY an option that appears for me while I'm logged in. It appears to be the case but, I want to make sure.

360photostock.com

Thank you,
Markjay

DJKennedy · June 21, 2008

Well, not to ruffle anyones feathers but why basically shove this change (removing the sizes available) down everyones throat?

Personally I liked the way I had it. If I didn't want to have the ability for people to easily see larger sizes, I would have removed it already.

NOW, I can't have it at all!?!

*I* have been asking for ever now to get recent photos gallery to show newest photos first, how about that? I asked 2 weeks ago if there where any changes and I didnt get any response and after 3-4 days I figured the heck with it, obviously no one wants to bother answering me so I gave up - then some one else asks a day later and within an hour gets a reply.

By taking away the drop down allowing a viewer (even me) to ability to easily see larger sizes your telling my viewers what they can or cant do. Basically you've now just added an extra step to my visitors - and me. I'm constantly checking out my photos, but now and added time wasting step has been added.

I dont even get any say on what goes on with my site? I had it the way I wanted it, and you guys made unwanted changes.

I want mine changed back. Allow me to make the decision as to what size of my photos are viewable and how.

Derek

Pro account customer.

J Allen · June 21, 2008

See here, i think this is what your asking:

http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=97390

Andy · June 21, 2008

DJKennedy wrote:

*I* have been asking for ever now to get recent photos gallery to show newest photos first, how about that? I asked 2 weeks ago if there where any changes and I didnt get any response and after 3-4 days I figured the heck with it, obviously no one wants to bother answering me so I gave up - then some one else asks a day later and within an hour gets a reply.

We read all posts, and reply to some but sometimes it's not possible to reply to every single posting. Don't ever give up please - we want to know how you feel!

edmaine · June 21, 2008

Andy wrote:

EDIT: Release Notes Updated!

1) When logged in, you will see the "save photo" icon on your photobar now - it's a brand new feature, for gallery owners (you!) only - your visitors won't see this option. To validate, use Visitor View, or log out of SmugMug, and have a look.

save photo is still an option even though im not not log in anymore.

5200250_7ZJrS#317166043_Zxdn5-A-LB

Andy · June 21, 2008

edmaine wrote:

save photo is still an option even though im not not log in anymore.

Hi, can you show us the gallery where this is happening? Be sure you are fully logged out. Keep in mind, save photo will show, if you have "Original" enabled as the largest size in your gallery customizing screen.

Markjay · June 21, 2008

Yes, thank you
Thank you, that's exactly what I was talking about :-)
I'm playing catch-up now since being distracted away from dgrin for a little while.

family guy wrote:

See here, i think this is what your asking:

http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=97390

edmaine · June 21, 2008

Andy wrote:

Hi, can you show us the gallery where this is happening? Be sure you are fully logged out.

dont know what im doing wrong, but i was trying to post a screen capture, but for some reason its not showing up.

at any rate, here is the screen capture:
http://edmaine.smugmug.com/gallery/5200250_7ZJrS#317166043_Zxdn5-A-LB

you can clearly see the "login" button on top, yet you can see the "save photo" as an option...

and i did try it and was able to download the photo.

Andy · June 21, 2008

edmaine wrote:

dont know what im doing wrong, but i was trying to post a screen capture, but for some reason its not showing up.

at any rate, here is the screen capture:
http://edmaine.smugmug.com/gallery/5200250_7ZJrS#317166043_Zxdn5-A-LB

you can clearly see the "login" button on top, yet you can see the "save photo" as an option...

and i did try it and was able to download the photo.

Ed, it's because you have Originals enabled for anyone, in that gallery. Logged in o rlogged out.

edmaine · June 21, 2008

Andy, i did try it on both FF3 and IE7, same thing, even though I am logout, still showing the "save photo" option.

Andy · June 21, 2008

edmaine wrote:

Andy, i did try it on both FF3 and IE7, same thing, even though I am logout, still showing the "save photo" option.

Ed...please see the post just above. Thank you.

New Features, June 21st 2008

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