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Lovin' It
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Newport News, VA
Posts: 6,409
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Thoughts on how to photograph a wedding
I’ve seen an increasing number of threads that start out with variants of the question, “I’m going to be photographing my first wedding. What gear should I have?” To help, I’ve put together the following in an attempt to provide a one-stop shopping experience. I am nobody's wedding photography expert and I would love to see others chip in with suggestions for improvements. If others will help in this fashion, I’ll update this text as appropriate.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ You have been shooting for a year or two (or maybe more) but you're not a professional A friend has asked you to photograph their/his/her wedding. You’re probably thinking to yourself, "Now what do I do?" The following is a list of things to think about. I'm not about to say you need to do this or that to be successful, this is just some ideas and thoughts I have. I hope this helps. Preparation
Equipment
Taking care of you Photographing a wedding is hard work and takes a toll on you body. What you wear and bring with you can help reduce the impact:
The Rehearsal
On the Day
After the event
The Day After
Something added from Post #18 Be a Professional Have you ever wondered why you should hire a professional wedding photographer and pay the price? Consider the simple fact that a wedding is a once in a lifetime photographic opportunity. Since the wedding cannot be restaged on the following day the photographer has to know exactly what they are doing to capture the moment in the first place. What does a professional wedding photographer bring to the table?
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Scott My Photos, Check out my blog, Operation: Love Reunited Thoughts on photographing a wedding, How to post a picture, AF Microadjustments? Light Scoop Equipment List - Check my profile Last edited by Scott_Quier; Aug-18-2009 at 03:27 AM. Reason: Adding contributions from others |
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Las Cruces, NM
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,344
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Thank you so much for this thorough help! I also took the liberty to copy your list of pics from your web site (hope that is OK) to my bride.
Let's talk about batteries, both for flash and the camera itself. I have two for camera. Is that enough? The Flash uses double As. I assume 2 or 3 sets of batteries for the flash? |
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Lovin' It
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Newport News, VA
Posts: 6,409
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See response in your thread...
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Scott My Photos, Check out my blog, Operation: Love Reunited Thoughts on photographing a wedding, How to post a picture, AF Microadjustments? Light Scoop Equipment List - Check my profile |
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Too busy to customize
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 657
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Scott,
This is a most excellent and very comprehensive list. It actually works well for lots of event photography. For the On the Day section I would add: There is no down time. When you find a few seconds reconfirm battery charges on devices, if you think you can go for a few more shots before changing batteries then now is the time to swap them out. Focus. Did you bump that focus to manual when you reached for that camera? Confirm shots for focus as often as possible. Exposure. Know how to read a histogram in a dark cave and in an open field at noon. Keep your hands clean. When handling 2 or three cameras you will touch the lenses. Verify the lenses are clean. Keep a microfiber cloth with you. Wash and dry your hands often. On the battery and memory side of things I would keep 3x what you think you need for strobes and cameras. Swapping that last charged camera battery between bodies is NOT fun (I know) and you are suppose to have fun. For Preparation I would add getting a list of the shots that the bride and groom and mothers in law want then make a copy of this for the day of event and laminate it using cheap adhesive laminate sheets. I wear it like a press badge, The names of the bride groom and parents are also listed as I'm terrible with names. Do not write it on a piece of paper and fold it up and put it in your soon to be sweaty pants. It won't unfold well when you need it and the ink will have run too. I cannot stress how important it is to see the venue in a light that will be similar to shooting. If you take strobes and stands then set them up and test if possible. If it is the day before the event I have been able to leave small squares of gaffers tape on the floor so I can sight the stands in a jiffy. Remove them after you are done. If you cant leave tape marks then write down where they go. Keep this with your shot list. For Equipment I would add gaffers tape (not duct tape) to your bag. Don't bring the whole giant roll. Spin a couple yards off on an old prescription bottle. A wider bottle can hold 4 AA batteries too. When you need it tear it halfway across so you get 4 yards of 1" to use instead of 2 yards of 2" tape. I'm sure there is a thread about the wonderful uses of gaffers tape somewhere. |
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Still learnin'still lovin
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Illinois cornfield
Posts: 11,108
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Great list!
In addition, at the rehearsal I take a camera and flash, usually a backup camera with a similar FOV lens to what I will actually use for the wedding, and I take photos at the church. This is a rehearsal opportunity for me as well as the participants, so I also note on paper my "stations", where I need to be and when I need to be there. It's also a way to plan my movements and path during the wedding. I take photos from the likely positions and review those photos after the rehearsal. It's amazing how things you don't see at first show up in the rehearsal images like: That stained glass window behind everyone during the processional that will be fully lit during the time of the wedding. The wall that didn't look "that" shiny and reflective before. The angle that looked good during the rehearsal has really distracting stuff in the background. etc. While all of this is especially important at a new venue, it's an important tune-up even if you've been to the site often. |
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Too busy to customize
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 657
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Bingo. It is VERY IMPORTANT go over skills and conditions. I've had 3 weddings cancel on me this year for 'economic reasons'. One is ever a friend! So I have almost 7 weeks between wedding gigs.
Since I only do a few wedding a year I have to remember everything from scratch. I go over equipment and list for a few hours before I go off to a rehersal and again before I go off to the wedding. Thanks Ziggy!!!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Quote:
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Image Junky
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Colorado
Posts: 72
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Wow. I just clicked the link below your sig, Scott, and found this list. Superb !
Thanks. ![]() --Doug |
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Major grins
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Southern Oregon
Posts: 213
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I would like to add:
Bring an assitant! Even if there just there to carry a bag, extra camera or for morale support. My assistants do not take photos but help me with poses, running for batteries, following me with a second camera, etc... My assistants have even helped people get ready, pin boutonnières, cordinate the walk down the aisle. Must have list from the bride. I usually ask my brides what photographs can not be missed, that way I can make sure there isn't something extra special to them I dont miss. Most of the time they have already seen my work and know what to expect and tell me to do my thing, but I always ask. I'm always surprised at how much people look to the photographers on how certain traditional wedding day things should go. They know you have been around a lot of weddings so they expect you to know , it does come with time but a little research on your wedding traditions wouldn't hurt.
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Angie No place is boring, if you've had a good night's sleep and have a pocket full of unexposed film. ~Robert Adams
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flash frozen photographer
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Woodland Hills, California.
Posts: 1,292
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Lovin' It
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Newport News, VA
Posts: 6,409
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If, after the contract has been signed, I'm handed a list of shots that need to be captured during the day, I just remind them of the discussions that were held prior to the contract signing. I look at it, but don't promise anything. Usually, such a list is nothing much more than the "standard" shots anyway. When reading the list, I let them know that I'll try - but no promises. In fact, my contract specifically states that the fluid nature of the wedding day makes it impossible to guarantee that the "standard" moments will be captured. I do my best and have so far not failed to get it all in, but the contract is there just in case. But trying to satisfy some list of shots would make that nearly impossible and, like Kathy, I'm not interested in risking the story just for an arbitrary shot.
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Scott My Photos, Check out my blog, Operation: Love Reunited Thoughts on photographing a wedding, How to post a picture, AF Microadjustments? Light Scoop Equipment List - Check my profile |
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Right Brained Scientist
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
Posts: 3,203
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Detail shots (rings, flowers, dress, shoes, etc.) are part of those "required" shots and make sure we get them anyway..just like exchange of rings, parents greeting, first kiss and so on. So often, a B&G have pre-concieved notions of what they "think" they want and try to steer your photography with "must have lists", only to realize (and this is our job to convey at our initial meeting) that we will give them much more. Covering those aspects up front and then a few times before the actual day will put their minds at ease and not be bent on "following a list". Weddings have an element of a service business and what we always strive to achieve is putting the client at ease. They have enough to stress out about....their wedding photographs should not be one of them...that's our job.
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Major grins
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Southern Oregon
Posts: 213
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I am there to make my clients happy and will do whatever it takes to make sure I get everything photographed that may have a lot of meaning to them. It is their day after all, so why not help them remember their special day by capturing the things that are important to them.
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Angie No place is boring, if you've had a good night's sleep and have a pocket full of unexposed film. ~Robert Adams
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I think I lost my shadow
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,100
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Do you find bringing your strobes cumbersome? Do most receptions follow directly AFTER the wedding? If so, how do you pack your strobes and light stands fast enough after taking the shots of the bride and groom going through the tossing of feathers to their car and then head off to the reception to get there in time?
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Lovin' It
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Newport News, VA
Posts: 6,409
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What I like to do, if I'm going to run strobes at the reception (and I usually do any more) is go to the reception venue before the wedding and set up the lighting. If they disappear and/or get damaged, that's what insurance is for. For the portraits: If they are inside, I have a pair of Sunpak 622 potato mashers I use on light-weight stands. Matched with a couple of large shoot-through umbrellas, I get pretty successful lighting. Outdoors - I usually just use on 580EX triggered by a PW. For a lightstand, I use a voice-activated, self-powered, carbon-based lightstand (my assistant). This provides a huge opportunity to fine-tune the power of the flash by moving it closer or further from the subject. Since the flash is, for all practical purposed, a point source of light, the distance thing making hard shadows is a wash. Of course, the other light source outside is the sun. Position everything correctly and it seems to work well. On my next out-door wedding portrait session, I'm giving serious consideration to using my G9. Testing has shown that, in manual mode and using PocketWizards, I can achieve a shutter speed of 1/1250. This will allow me to use much wider apertures and, thus, greatly reduce the competition between my strobes and the sun. That 1/1250 is just a touch more than 2 stops faster then the 1/250 x-sycn shutter speed of my Canon 30D cameras. The stobist has demonstrated (here) that, if you hard-wire the connection between the G9 and the strobe and you fire the strobe at 1/4 power, you can get a shutter speed of 1/2000 (hmmmm, that's 3 stops!). I'm just going to have to build me one of those connectors sometime between now and my next outdoor wedding.
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Scott My Photos, Check out my blog, Operation: Love Reunited Thoughts on photographing a wedding, How to post a picture, AF Microadjustments? Light Scoop Equipment List - Check my profile |
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Major grins
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Southern California
Posts: 266
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Here are a few other thoughts.
I like to shoot in bursts of 3 to 5 shots. Photojournalistically I want the maximum expression with each keeper if you have a few of each to choose from chances are you will get it. Chimp. don't be affraid to look at the shots you've taken just pick the appropriate time to view them so you don't miss anything. Remeber you are the paid help even if your a friend of the B&G, make sure you don't block the guests view durring the ceremony. Shoot and move (or duck). Don't just stand in the center isle. Crowd Control. everyone brings a camera to a wedding and they all want to get the same shot you are trying to get, expecially for formals. Don't fight them (again remember they are the B&G's guests and relatives), work with them by setting ground rules. I normally talk to the crowd before the first formal and explain....... ok folks, let me set the shot up take a few and then I will give you all a few seconds to snap yours, OK. just please wait until I have finished. If your cordial and have some fun with them they will stay out of your way. Also ontop of the above note, with the availability of DSLR's to everyone don't be supprised or embarrased if you dont have the best camera there. Someone is bound to have the latest and greatest equipment. I Just smile, and say wow thats a really nice camera when they show me their 1D Mark III while I shoot with my 30D's remember there is a reason the B&G are paying you!
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Beginner grinner
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 8
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Also take a look at this:
http://www.rokkorfiles.com/Wedding101-page1.html I found this to be very helpful :) -Steven. |
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Livin' In 3/4 Time
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 702
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I would direct anybody even thinking of photographing weddings to read this (its a free lengthy PDF): The New Photographers Handbook: Bridezilla Its become a cult classic and although humerous... it is full of valuable and sage advice. I like the posting as it is very informative. Nice job!
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Major grins
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Londonderry NH
Posts: 262
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Why Hire A Pro
Why Hire A Professional Wedding Photographer and What is a Professional.
Have you ever wondered why you should hire a professional wedding photographer and pay the price? Consider the simple fact that a wedding is a once in a lifetime photographic opportunity. Since the wedding cannot be restaged on the following day the photographer has to know exactly what they are doing to capture the moment in the first place. What does a professional wedding photographer bring to the table? The wedding professional brings experience, lots of photo related knowledge, an artistic eye and is well trained to photograph weddings and has done so for any number of years. The wedding pro knows the various wedding situations and cannot be confused by whatever may or may not occur on the wedding day and can effectively handle the stress of the days events. The wedding pro brings plenty of backup photographic equipment and brings the correct photographic tools for the wedding. This is very important. The wedding pro is comfortable with the chosen equipment and knowledgeable about the controls because of previous testing. The wedding pro spends money on reliable equipment and has made the commitment to quality. The pro easily brings $3,000 worth of lenses to a wedding. You can double or triple that amount for the cameras. The professional wedding photographer offers options to the bride and groom. These options include, price, package, album. A professional wedding photographer can accommodate style preference requests that include; formal weddings, photo-journalistic weddings, backdrop portraits or a combination of outdoor portraits and engagement photo sessions. The wedding pro is efficient, does not fumble with the equipment and does not waste anyone's time on the wedding day. The wedding pro always delivers and the results are better than expected.
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Lovin' It
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Newport News, VA
Posts: 6,409
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Thanks Gary, I've added your thoughts ... after a slight format edit. These are good and carry my point quite well.
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Scott My Photos, Check out my blog, Operation: Love Reunited Thoughts on photographing a wedding, How to post a picture, AF Microadjustments? Light Scoop Equipment List - Check my profile |
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Major grins
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 276
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well done
Scott,
Great work here! Thanks for all your time and effort. Very thorough! --Lisa
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