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Grin there, done that
Join Date: Mar 2006
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A bunch of dark splotches showed up when I was just playing around with the f-stop. See the shots below. Any ideas!? Sensor? Lens? Filter? And why would it only show up (or at least be so prominent) at the high f-stop?
![]() f/22 ISO 200 1/400th ![]() f/4.5 ISO 200 1/1250th
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Docendo discimus.
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Parkersburg,WV
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Looks like sensor dust to me. And it usually shows up at higher f-stops on a blue sky. Over the past several years of using dSLRs I have only had to clean my sensors twice. I went into sensor-clean mode (mirror lock-up), then I used a blower similar to a Rocket blower while holding my camera's lens mount down toward the ground. Cleaned it right up.
You can also buy all sorts of sensor cleaning kits. This has become a "religion" of sorts for many, with different sects proselytizing different methods, so you will get some fairly adamant opinions. BTW, if you see the spots in the viewfinder and not on the prints, you need to clean your mirror or focusing screen the same way (gently blowing air from a rocket blower or similar on the screen while the lens opening is pointed down).
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SmugMug Support Hero
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Huntingtown, Maryland
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Yes, you have a dust bunny infestation!
The farther you stop down the easier they are to see. You can usually start to notice the around F10. At F22, like in your first shot, they're practically begging you to blast them away.
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E clunibus tractum
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Mannheim, Germany
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this is absolutely dust on the sensor. It looks pretty bad, but DO NOT DESPAIR! This is an issue that all DSLR users face eventually, if they ever change lenses.
The dust spots are visible at higher f stops because they increase the depth of field, bringing the spots into visible focus. Wide open, only a serious dust bunny is visible. What I would do is buy an air rocket blower thing. That's the technical term for it "air rocket blower thing." I have one from Giotto's just liek the link indicates. If you are shooting Canon, which you ought to be regardless, because not shootin Canon is an early indicator of tendencies towards satanism, communism, anti-social behavior, and lack of personal hygiene, then this is how you take care of it. 1. Go to the "menu" of the camera. 2. Select "sensor clean". 3. At this point the mirror should flip up, exposing the sensor. 4. Take the lens off, hold the camera upside down, with the open aperture facing down, and blow vigourously onto the sensor with the air rocket. Make sure the red nozzle of the air rocket does not enter the body of the camera, or if so, does so only very slightly. You do not want to scratch your sensor. 5. Once this is done, replace the lens and turn the camera off (this will return the mirror to the normal position. 6. Take a shot against a well lit plain white surface (like an interior wall) with no images or designs at thew highest possible f stop (f22+). Exposure time doesn't matter, as long as you don't have anything non white in your frame. 7. Chimp the pic in camera, or look at it on a computer. If dust spots remain there, then repeat the previous steps. If 3 repititions of this does not remove the significant dust particles, you will actually have to clean your sensor with a brush. You can: a) find one of the many threads here describing how it is done and do it yourself, thereby voiding your warranty, or b) Send it to Canon. I myself have never needed anything more than the dust blower. Good luck!
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Mildly bemused
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Madrid, Spain
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Yep, it's dust on the sensor. I'm not altogether clear on why a high f stop makes it more visible, but I suppose it has something to do with the increased depth of field. You are supposed to shoot test shots at f/22 or higher when looking for spots. Anyway, time for a cleaning. There are many threads on Dgrin discussing the merits of different methods.
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what did i just eat?
Join Date: Nov 2006
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as everyone else has alluded to, yes, you do have dust in front of the sensor. hopefully most of it can be easily removed by simply blowing air onto it. if not, you could always send it back to canon for the priciest, but probably best sensor cleaning or take it to your local reputable camera shop. if you're nearby a calumet camera, they offer on-site cleanings on a first come, first serve basis.
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Wake Up & Smell the Music
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Alpharetta, Georgia USA
Posts: 1,166
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how much does Canon normally charge?
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Works too much to shoot
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Garden City, NY
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Another good way to spot the dust is shoot a clear blue sky at f/22, take the RAW file into Photoshop and apply "auto levels". That really makes the dust spots stand out.
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Big grins
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: new york city
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i'm a recent convert to the copper hill method. it was easy (though nerve wracking the first time
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Atlanta, GA
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The simplest way is to fill a bucket with warm, soapy water, and very quickly dunk your camera in it.
Two or three dunks should do the trick. Then hang it from a line to dry. You can get special camera clothes line clips from B&H. Easy peasy. I don't know what all the fuss is about.
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Major grins
Join Date: Aug 2006
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The way I check my sensor for dust is to set ISO 100, stop down to f/22 and take a shot of a white ceiling (or wall) the EC set to +2. That usually gives me a long shutter speed and I deliberatly move the camera to blur out any detail in the wall. As for cleaning, I use the Copperhill dry/wet system. Depending on what I see on my sensor, I normally start with the dry brush and only go to the wet cleaning system if I have to. |
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Drive By Digital Shooter
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: western Indiana
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Say "CHEEESEEE!"
Join Date: Jun 2007
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No., that is too much trouble...
I could not afford a Rocket Blower thingy, so I just set it in cleaning mode and blow with my mouth into it... it cleaned it good!
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Major grins
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Grin there, done that
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Oh well, I guess the day had to come!
Thanks everyone - makes a lot of sense. FWIW I'll follow up on this thread with how my cleaning goes.
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Major grins
Join Date: Sep 2007
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Did noone but me see the "dirty sensor?! DIRTY PHOTOGRAPHER!!"-phun in those two images?
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UniverseUnderConstruction
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 232
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I also recently picked up a Sensor Scope system. I love the scope for inspecting the sensor. The vaccum thingy is pretty cool, but I don't really like their foam padded sensor wipes. I feel the pec pads used in the Copperhill method are much much safer. |
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Lovin' It
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Newport News, VA
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But, I usually don't clean the sensor unless I see something at f/16 as I usually don't work at much above f/8.
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Major grins
Join Date: May 2006
Location: SoCal
Posts: 2,750
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We all get hit by sensor dust sooner or later. Nobody is immune.
I will add another copperhill recommendation. My process is: step 1, use a blower, step 2, use a sensor brush, step 3, use the Eclipse/Pec-Pad swab. Only go sa far as needed to get the dust bunnies off. It's not as scary as you think the first time. Before looking at Dust-Aid, run a search either here or on fredmiranda--I personally will not ever use that method. Oh, and one final thought: remember that it's not the actual sensor you will be touching, but a glass filter over it. |
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Throttle Jockey
Join Date: Apr 2007
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