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Old Jan-22-2005, 11:16 AM   #1
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This week's JC B-ball

Hello all,
This week's game was an away game. This gym is actually closer to my house than the home gym...lol Anyway, the lighting was about the same intensity, but a bit less yellow. I am pretty satisfied with the results I got. I think the combination of color temp and trying to isolate/get tighter shots has helped.

Thanks for all the feedback you have given me and feel free to let me know what you think of these






Thanks for looking,
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Old Jan-23-2005, 09:12 PM   #2
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Great shots! I really like the facial expressions in all of them. The middle one seems like it needs a little clockwise rotation. I think the first shot is my favorite - it looks great with the player so isolated.
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Old Jan-24-2005, 02:46 PM   #3
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Thanks Greg :-)

Yeah, after I posted this I noticed it that the BG was pretty tilted on the 2nd shot. Already fixed...lol I also liked the sharpness and color of that all-alone shot. What's really cool is that for the past few B-ball shoots, I've been able to lightly post process jpgs, instead of having to go through the RAW conversion process. Thanks heavens for Custom White Balance

Thank you very much for responding Greg I figured, for sure, this post was going to rollover to page 2 unresponded to Not that it would have been a tragedy. But, personally, I hate to see any post move to page 2 without at least 1 response.


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Old Jan-24-2005, 04:05 PM   #4
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I like them all. That first one is priceless. the look on his face is great.


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Old Jan-24-2005, 04:16 PM   #5
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Steve all the shots are pretty cool, but I really like the first one..

What camera / Lens?

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Hello all,
This week's game was an away game. This gym is actually closer to my house than the home gym...lol Anyway, the lighting was about the same intensity, but a bit less yellow. I am pretty satisfied with the results I got. I think the combination of color temp and trying to isolate/get tighter shots has helped.

Thanks for all the feedback you have given me and feel free to let me know what you think of these

Thanks for looking,
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Old Jan-24-2005, 06:18 PM   #6
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Hello all,
This week's game was an away game. This gym is actually closer to my house than the home gym...lol Anyway, the lighting was about the same intensity, but a bit less yellow. I am pretty satisfied with the results I got. I think the combination of color temp and trying to isolate/get tighter shots has helped.

Thanks for all the feedback you have given me and feel free to let me know what you think of these






Thanks for looking,
Steve


Steve these are great shots, timely captures, sharp, close up enuugh; but on my monitor they do not seem to have the even color balance of your out of door shots. I know that shooting under some gym lights is very tough to balance. So what I did is read the pixel RGB data from several areas of white in your images and here is what I got.

Image #1 white waist band 218,211,208 sl yellow

Image#2 white side of jersey 163,164,132 light yellow

Image #3 beneath the "A" 252,253,244 sl yellow

above #23 194,190,181 yellow tint

I interpret this data to support my visual evaluation of the tonality on my monitor - these images have a slight yellow cast. Does anyone else see this? The higher values for R and G over B, definitely suggest that the images are slightly yellow.

Some Sodium gym lights throw out a very yellow light that is hard to compensate for with the yellow reflection from the gym floor aggravating the color balance. Did you try to do a custom white balance while you were there? Or were these shot in RAW. Or are they jpegs shot with AWB?

Do you see this yellow cast on your monitor or are my old eyes just giving out?
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I like them all. That first one is priceless. the look on his face is great.


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Eric,
That one is my favorite too Thank you for your nice comments.


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Steve all the shots are pretty cool, but I really like the first one..

What camera / Lens?

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Thanks Ed 20D and the 85mm F1.8. Most were shot at F2.2 and 1/500 and ISO1600 This was a little better lighting than I'm used too, but as Pathfinder points out, still too yellow


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Thanks Ed 20D and the 85mm F1.8. Most were shot at F2.2 and 1/500 and ISO1600 This was a little better lighting than I'm used too, but as Pathfinder points out, still too yellow


Thanks for looking,
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I hope my comments were not taken as criticism. My brother shoots a lot of BB and I am aware of the sodium light - yellow gym floor conundrum.

And monitors do not always display the subtleties the same - that is why I read the pixel data - it is like a good dog - it doesn't/cannot lie.
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Steve these are great shots, timely captures, sharp, close up enuugh; but on my monitor they do not seem to have the even color balance of your out of door shots. I know that shooting under some gym lights is very tough to balance. So what I did is read the pixel RGB data from several areas of white in your images and here is what I got.

Image #1 white waist band 218,211,208 sl yellow

Image#2 white side of jersey 163,164,132 light yellow

Image #3 beneath the "A" 252,253,244 sl yellow

above #23 194,190,181 yellow tint

I interpret this data to support my visual evaluation of the tonality on my monitor - these images have a slight yellow cast. Does anyone else see this? The higher values for R and G over B, definitely suggest that the images are slightly yellow.

Some Sodium gym lights throw out a very yellow light that is hard to compensate for with the yellow reflection from the gym floor aggravating the color balance. Did you try to do a custom white balance while you were there? Or were these shot in RAW. Or are they jpegs shot with AWB?

Do you see this yellow cast on your monitor or are my old eyes just giving out?
Pathfinder, I believe you are correct. They look a bit too yellow to me too The Custom wb set the wb to 2000K and -4 tint. I also tried moving the color balance towards blue for all tones. Guess I needed to move it further. As you may have noticed, I am really bad at post processing. Especially, if it involves color

I appreciate you pointing this out It will help me with my next batch. BTW, if you know of a post processing "color for dummies" site, please post the link

Thank you also, for your very nice comments.

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