Pop Tutorial: New and Improved

***DavidTO*** · Dec-30-2006, 09:31 AM

I've reworked the POP tutorial, take a look at it here.

And use this thread for any discussion or questions!

***Andy*** · Dec-30-2006, 09:34 AM

Folks, this is by far the #1 thing any of you can do to improve your photos. If you learn nothing else, learn these basic moves

saurora · Dec-30-2006, 10:11 AM

Hi David...I'm going through the new tute and attempting to work on an old image as I go. I have never used Image>Adjustment>Threshold before...pretty cool. I've always just slid the curves over to opposite sides and worked them back gradually. Anyway.....after setting the points, etc. in curves when I choose "ok" and leave curves my image is still in the black and white screen. I have attempted it 3 times and I can't figure out what I'm doing. I use CS by the way.

***DavidTO*** · Dec-30-2006, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saurora

Hi David...I'm going through the new tute and attempting to work on an old image as I go. I have never used Image>Adjustment>Threshold before...pretty cool. I've always just slid the curves over to opposite sides and worked them back gradually. Anyway.....after setting the points, etc. in curves when I choose "ok" and leave curves my image is still in the black and white screen. I have attempted it 3 times and I can't figure out what I'm doing. I use CS by the way.

Thanks for debugging my tute!

My bad. Don't OK the threshold, just cancel.

You're just using it to see the threshold, not set it.

I'm on my way to fix it.

saurora · Dec-30-2006, 10:35 AM

Ah! Thanks David! Glad I asked before driving myself nuts!

***DavidTO*** · Dec-30-2006, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saurora

Ah! Thanks David! Glad I asked before driving myself nuts!

Let's see how it worked out!

Stustaff · Dec-30-2006, 12:55 PM

Feedback - working through this and it could use a tiny bit of clarification I have higlighted in Bold below from your text, It says "In the curves dialog" which one? I have two already one for black and one for white!
You need to add "Open another new curves layer you will see that there is a line running at 45... etc"

"Again, click OK in the curves dialog, and save the new target colors as default.

It's looking much better, eh?

What we've done so far is to make sure that this image is using the full range of values that are available: from black to white.

But we can do better.

In the curves dialog there is a line running at 45°. This is the curve. When it's straight it's telling you that what goes in, is what comes out. The curve is not changing any values.
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gefillmore · Dec-30-2006, 12:59 PM

yes folks, davidto has the nicest tutes I've ever seen-

Stustaff · Dec-30-2006, 01:06 PM

After following tute, what do you think?

Before

After

***DavidTO*** · Dec-30-2006, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stustaff

After following tute, what do you think?

I think you've got to be more careful about where you set your black and white points.

Dec-30-2006, 09:34 AM	#2
*Andy* Hold the meat Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: New York City Posts: 50,164	Folks, this is by far the #1 thing any of you can do to improve your photos. If you learn nothing else, learn these basic moves __________________ Andy SmugMug COO, General Manager, House Pro & Dgrin Admin • Moon River Photography • League of Creative Infrared Photographers

Dec-30-2006, 10:11 AM	#3
saurora Major grins Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Orange, California Posts: 4,303	What am I doing wrong? Hi David...I'm going through the new tute and attempting to work on an old image as I go. I have never used Image>Adjustment>Threshold before...pretty cool. I've always just slid the curves over to opposite sides and worked them back gradually. Anyway.....after setting the points, etc. in curves when I choose "ok" and leave curves my image is still in the black and white screen. I have attempted it 3 times and I can't figure out what I'm doing. I use CS by the way. __________________ "Photography is a great thing because you don't have to be great before it becomes satisfying. You never get to the point where you say, 'I know it all.' " - Al Belson, photographer

Dec-30-2006, 10:35 AM	#5
saurora Major grins Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Orange, California Posts: 4,303	Ah! Thanks David! Glad I asked before driving myself nuts! __________________ "Photography is a great thing because you don't have to be great before it becomes satisfying. You never get to the point where you say, 'I know it all.' " - Al Belson, photographer

Dec-30-2006, 12:55 PM	#7
Stustaff Thinking of new title Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Derby, England Posts: 669	Feedback - working through this and it could use a tiny bit of clarification I have higlighted in Bold below from your text, It says "In the curves dialog" which one? I have two already one for black and one for white! You need to add "Open another new curves layer you will see that there is a line running at 45... etc" "Again, click OK in the curves dialog, and save the new target colors as default. It's looking much better, eh? What we've done so far is to make sure that this image is using the full range of values that are available: from black to white. But we can do better. In the curves dialog there is a line running at 45°. This is the curve. When it's straight it's telling you that what goes in, is what comes out. The curve is not changing any values. " __________________ Trapped in my bedroom taking pictures...did i say bedroom? i meant studio! My www. place is www.belperphoto.co.uk My smugmug galleries at http://stuarthill.smugmug.com

Dec-30-2006, 01:06 PM	#9
Stustaff Thinking of new title Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Derby, England Posts: 669	After following tute, what do you think? Before After __________________ Trapped in my bedroom taking pictures...did i say bedroom? i meant studio! My www. place is www.belperphoto.co.uk My smugmug galleries at http://stuarthill.smugmug.com

Dec-30-2006, 09:31 AM	#1
*DavidTO* salubrious Join Date: May 2004 Location: Thousand Oaks, CA Posts: 15,654	Pop Tutorial: New and Improved I've reworked the POP tutorial, take a look at it here. And use this thread for any discussion or questions! __________________ Moderator of The Refinery \| Action! ARQG \| Post A Pic \| Nice Tutes! \| Me! How To Do Most Anything on Dgrin! Photography Workshops \| Muench University

Dec-30-2006, 12:59 PM	#8
gefillmore Ramblin' hyphenatin' man Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,732	yes folks, davidto has the nicest tutes I've ever seen-

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