bad moon rising

fish · Feb-05-2004, 06:07 PM

Problem: very bright full moon with hazy aura. 100/2.8 macro lens. I could see the definition of the moon through the viewfinder, but I could not for the life of me capture it. I tried a range of exposures, a range of apertures, and center-weighted metering. They all turned out similar to this one. Do I need a neutral density filter? Is the moon too bright?

fish · Feb-05-2004, 06:27 PM

Manual
1/400 f8

Deacon · Feb-05-2004, 06:49 PM

Fish,

Maybe you can help, there is no image showing up on your posts. I have noticed this on other threads that some of the photos are present, the others just say the image is attached?!?

Deacon

**wxwax** · Feb-05-2004, 06:50 PM

Is that the moon?

cmr164 · Feb-05-2004, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fish

Manual
1/400 f8

Still over exposed. Which ISO were you using?

I applied a .3 gamma to the 2nd one and got:

**pathfinder** · Feb-05-2004, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fish

Manual
1/400 f8

Fish - What is the moon but a sun lit object - that is to say - the moon basically needs the same exposure as a sunlit scene on Earth - and your camera meter gets confused with all the black arund the moon.
Good exposure estimate is 1/ISO at f16 for a sunlit seen - hence at ISO 100 you should need 1/100 second at f16 for the moon OR 1/200 at f11 OR!!!!! 1/400 at f8. How about that - My estimate matched your exposure! Kool huh!

**Shay Stephens** · Feb-05-2004, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pathfinder

Fish - What is the moon but a sun lit object - that is to say - the moon basically needs the same exposure as a sunlit scene on Earth - and your camera meter gets confused with all the black arund the moon.
Good exposure estimate is 1/ISO at f16 for a sunlit seen - hence at ISO 100 you should need 1/100 second at f16 for the moon OR 1/200 at f11 OR!!!!! 1/400 at f8. How about that - My estimate matched your exposure! Kool huh!

I will second that. Treat the moon like you would a daytime shot.

fish · Feb-05-2004, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmr164

Still over exposed. Which ISO were you using?

I applied a .3 gamma to the 2nd one and got:

ISO800. Nice gamma touch, but I wanted to capture the halo too.

fish · Feb-05-2004, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pathfinder

Fish - What is the moon but a sun lit object - that is to say - the moon basically needs the same exposure as a sunlit scene on Earth - and your camera meter gets confused with all the black arund the moon.
Good exposure estimate is 1/ISO at f16 for a sunlit seen - hence at ISO 100 you should need 1/100 second at f16 for the moon OR 1/200 at f11 OR!!!!! 1/400 at f8. How about that - My estimate matched your exposure! Kool huh!

Cool. Clearly, I have some work to do.

Thanks for the responses.

**pathfinder** · Feb-05-2004, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fish

Cool. Clearly, I have some work to do.

Thanks for the responses.

Nah!!!

Here is a previous attempt of mine at ISO 400. 1/750 CALL IT 1/800 at f9.5 - Should have been 1/400 at f16 or 1/800 at f11 - so it is slightly underexposed I think

**Shay Stephens** · Feb-05-2004, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fish

ISO800. Nice gamma touch, but I wanted to capture the halo too.

The dynamic range is likely too much to capture in a single exposure. Maybe with RAW, but I doubt it. Likely you will need to do a large bracket shot of at least two exposures and stack the images later in an image editor.

***DoctorIt*** · Feb-06-2004, 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shay Stephens

The dynamic range is likely too much to capture in a single exposure. Maybe with RAW, but I doubt it. Likely you will need to do a large bracket shot of at least two exposures and stack the images later in an image editor.

I was just gonna say, do it in photoshop... as a matter of fact...

***DoctorIt*** · Feb-06-2004, 06:20 AM

very quick hack job... used a cooling filter too:

Feb-05-2004, 06:07 PM	#1
fish Site Megalodon Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: The Gold Country Posts: 2,942	bad moon rising Problem: very bright full moon with hazy aura. 100/2.8 macro lens. I could see the definition of the moon through the viewfinder, but I could not for the life of me capture it. I tried a range of exposures, a range of apertures, and center-weighted metering. They all turned out similar to this one. Do I need a neutral density filter? Is the moon too bright? Attached Images __________________ "Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson

Feb-05-2004, 06:27 PM	#2
fish Site Megalodon Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: The Gold Country Posts: 2,942	Manual 1/400 f8 Attached Images __________________ "Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson

Feb-05-2004, 06:49 PM	#3
Deacon Major grins Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Portland, Or Posts: 224	"attached image" Fish, Maybe you can help, there is no image showing up on your posts. I have noticed this on other threads that some of the photos are present, the others just say the image is attached?!? Deacon

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