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Old Oct-17-2004, 11:49 AM   #1
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winter photography tips

winter is one of my most favorite times for photography. as some of our friends in the northern climes are already receiving snow, i thought it would be a good time to start a winter photography tips thread.

exposure / metering:

the most important time i can give you is to overexpose that snow! most camera light meters are fooled by the bright snow, and will underexpose drastically. so, i find that between +1 and +1 2/3s positive ec is needed for most brightliy lit snow scenes. experiment to see what's right for your camera, but it'll for sure be in this range.

white balance: most cameras are fooled by the white snow, and their auto whitebalance doesn't get it right. learn to set your white balance manually, and i find that setting it manually against the white snow works great much of the time. of course, you can use a grey card, expodisc, or other device, too, but for me, the snow works just great.

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these are very cool "shooting gloves" they are thin, yet warm! it was 8 degrees out on the hudson today, and with the windchill, about 20 below. my hands felt great! they have little rubber grips on them, so getting to all the controls on the camera is no problem. i highly recommend them. oh and the best part? $20 bucks. you can find them here at b&h photo

carry at least two, if not more, batteries (depends on how long you'll be out for). the cold *severely* limits battery performance, so don't be surprised if your battery drains in an hour even. carry extras, and keep them in a warm pocket, very close to your body.

be careful when bringing your camera from a very warm environment directly into the very very cold. you may get condensation. to avoid this, try the ziplock bag trick, keep your camera in the ziplock while inside, and then let it acclimate inside the ziplock for a while outdoors before you start shooting.

i'll add more tips as i think of them, and by all means, would you fellow dgrinners join in here with tips of your own?

enjoy (winter) photography,
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Old Oct-17-2004, 05:02 PM   #2
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Andy, fall is one thing, but winter is kind of pushing it in the Carolinas. The grass gets browner, though.

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Old Oct-17-2004, 05:56 PM   #3
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winter is one of my most favorite times for photography. as some of our friends in the northern climes are already receiving snow ...
Friday we were golfing ... Saturday we got 20 - 25 cm of snow (about 10 inches)

I took a bunch of photos of our dog Buddy going NUTS in the snow thinking about this week's TIME challenge, as it could be considered "Time to Play". After CONSIDERABLE feedback from my wife, she thinks that snow on October 16 should be considered "Time to Move!" ...
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Old Oct-17-2004, 06:26 PM   #4
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Friday we were golfing ... Saturday we got 20 - 25 cm of snow (about 10 inches)

I took a bunch of photos of our dog Buddy going NUTS in the snow thinking about this week's TIME challenge, as it could be considered "Time to Play". After CONSIDERABLE feedback from my wife, she thinks that snow on October 16 should be considered "Time to Move!" ...
happy to have you aboard clind'oeil
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Old Oct-17-2004, 08:50 PM   #5
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If you're out in the cold, especially when you're handling metal objects,
be careful of handling them with moist hands. Damp hands on cold metal
object might mean stuck hands

To make handling your tripod easier, find a section of pipe insulation at
the local building supply store. Duct tape the insulation to the top
of the tripod leg(s).

Batteries tend to do poorly in the cold. Keep your spares in a pocket
next to you.

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Old Oct-17-2004, 08:57 PM   #6
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winter in calif tips

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Old Oct-17-2004, 09:03 PM   #7
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If you're out in the cold, especially when you're handling metal objects,
be careful of handling them with moist hands. Damp hands on cold metal
object might mean stuck hands

To make handling your tripod easier, find a section of pipe insulation at
the local building supply store. Duct tape the insulation to the top
of the tripod leg(s).

Batteries tend to do poorly in the cold. Keep your spares in a pocket
next to you.

Ian
One of the better reason for Carbon Fibre tripods is that they are not cold like a metal tripod at all. They can actually feel warm at times, especially if the sun is shining.

A plastic garbage bag or a freezer bag is a good thing to place your camera inside prior to returning to warm environs if you have been outside in the cold all day to prevent condensation inside optics and electronics.

I find that setting your color balance for shade helps diminish the blue color you often get when shooting in a snowy environment and use AWB.
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Old Oct-19-2004, 10:28 PM   #8
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When you're out and about in the winter weather, don't forget to dress
the part.

Layering, especially if your activities include working or hiking, is important.
Start with the underwear layer. I will usually wear something like UnderArmor
(poly stretch) as a base layer followed by the appropriate layers on top.
Depending on the weather, it could be as simple as the polypro underwear
and street clothes or more polypro followed by fleece and some sort of shell.

Layering allows you to add or subtract clothing as required to help regulate
your body temperature. There's nothing like being too hot after a hike in the
snow followed by an hour of standing around in the cold and in wet clothes
while shooting.

The head is a great source of heat loss. Wear a cap or hat to prevent heat
loss. And don't forget your feet. A nice pair of wool socks is a must.

Looking forward to winter,
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Old Oct-19-2004, 10:42 PM   #9
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ooooowah. you guys are so lucky!

i've never even seen real snow! - let along taken a picture of some!

the best we get is some hail, it might get to 3 degrees (c) but that's it! have to drive about 2000 km to the closest snow field but that's really only open for about 3 months of the year! either that or fly to New Zealand!

make sure you all post HEAPS of winter shots, snow, ice, all that stuff to keep us Aussie's sane!

It should keep us cool in our scortching summers - i would say that we would easily get 47+ degrees (c) in our state this summer!

Enjoying (extremes of weather) photography.
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Old Oct-20-2004, 02:19 AM   #10
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I have found a glove similar in thickness to what Andy has been using. It does not have the little grippers, but it is fingerless with a flip back mitten top. It allows you to keep your hands warm while waiting or cover up one hand. They have worked well for me, about $16.00 where Carhartt clothing is sold.

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Old Oct-20-2004, 04:57 AM   #11
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Friday we were golfing ... Saturday we got 20 - 25 cm of snow (about 10 inches)

I took a bunch of photos of our dog Buddy going NUTS in the snow thinking about this week's TIME challenge, as it could be considered "Time to Play". After CONSIDERABLE feedback from my wife, she thinks that snow on October 16 should be considered "Time to Move!" ...
Where do you live Clind??
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Old Oct-21-2004, 09:06 PM   #12
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Man, you guys get snow. We barely ever get rain where I live!
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Old Oct-23-2004, 07:37 PM   #13
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dont want it to snow here yet. this topic is going to give me winter nightmares (err -50 *c with windchill)
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Old Oct-23-2004, 08:58 PM   #14
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Here's One from Today!!!

My youngest one playing with that dirty four letter "S" word. It's just too darn early for this. This was AWB, no ec, Aperature Priority at f/16, ISO 100.
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My youngest one playing with that dirty four letter "S" word. It's just too darn early for this. This was AWB, no ec, Aperature Priority at f/16, ISO 100.
Great shot. I can't believe that you guys have SNOW! It's like 80 degrees down here and the leaves are still very green...
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My youngest one playing with that dirty four letter "S" word. It's just too darn early for this. This was AWB, no ec, Aperature Priority at f/16, ISO 100.
Spockling, beautiful picture of your daughter.

The Sierra's got something like 4' in places last weekend. One or two
resorts "opened" for the ski season. I use quotes because only one lift
in each was opened. So technically, it's the beginning of rental ski season

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Old Nov-14-2004, 04:06 AM   #17
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I have found a glove similar in thickness to what Andy has been using. It does not have the little grippers, but it is fingerless with a flip back mitten top. It allows you to keep your hands warm while waiting or cover up one hand. They have worked well for me, about $16.00 where Carhartt clothing is sold.

I have followed the link to the lowepro gloves, and it costs me 11 dollar to ship them to my apo address. Gosh, that is half of the price of the gloves.
Buying them in UK will probably be overkill to what pricing concerns.
Does anyone know how much they go in UK? I would pay 30 dollar to have them shipped.
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Old Nov-14-2004, 04:18 AM   #18
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I have followed the link to the lowepro gloves, and it costs me 11 dollar to ship them to my apo address. Gosh, that is half of the price of the gloves.
Buying them in UK will probably be overkill to what pricing concerns.
Does anyone know how much they go in UK? I would pay 30 dollar to have them shipped.
photocat, go to this lowepro site and put in your postal code. you'll get a list of uk retailers.
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photocat, go to this lowepro site and put in your postal code. you'll get a list of uk retailers.
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Thanks Andy, will do. ..
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