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Old Oct-15-2004, 04:40 PM
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Andy is offline Andy OP
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Laughing new printer - i'm hooked
ok i'm hooked! i came home today and the fedex man had left a new canon i9900 on my doorstep :) whoo-boy, i was excited. it *is* all about the print for me, and at home, i'd been printing up to 8x10s on an inexpensive hp inkjet ... occasionally i'd use a friend's canon for larger prints. well, at around $400 usd, this printer seemed like a good deal, and let me tell you, after a few prints, i'm *hooked* on it :) the prints are really high quality -
even my wife said *wow* and she's not easily impressed :)



this thing does up to 13" x 19" borderless printing, so i'm going
to have some custom mattes made for that size, and then get some 20
x 24 frames from exposuresonline.

most of my prints are done by my smugmug, but there's nothing like doing your own every so often, too ... it's really gratifying to take the shot, work it in post, and then print it yourself, matte, frame it, and hang it on the wall.

enjoy (printing your work) photography,
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Old Oct-15-2004, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by andy
ok i'm hooked! i came home today and the fedex man had left a new canon i9900 on my doorstep :) whoo-boy, i was excited. it *is* all about the print for me, and at home, i'd been printing up to 8x10s on an inexpensive hp inkjet ... occasionally i'd use a friend's canon for larger prints. well, at around $400 usd, this printer seemed like a good deal, and let me tell you, after a few prints, i'm *hooked* on it :) the prints are really high quality -
even my wife said *wow* and she's not easily impressed :)

this thing does up to 13" x 19" borderless printing, so i'm going
to have some custom mattes made for that size, and then get some 20
x 24 frames from exposuresonline.

most of my prints are done by my smugmug, but there's nothing like doing your own every so often, too ... it's really gratifying to take the shot, work it in post, and then print it yourself, matte, frame it, and hang it on the wall.

enjoy (printing your work) photography,
I've read good things about that printer. I recently bought a new Epson 2200 that can do borderless 13x19, or 13x44 on roll paper.

What is the print life expected to be on that model? I have an s900 that gets about 6 months behind glass. Something you may want to check into if you plan on selling those prints. This is also the main reason for me getting the Epson.

How many 13x19's have you printed yet? I went crazy the first few days with that size! There is nothing like instant gratification of digital. Smugmug has a great product & price, but I like to see my photo in minutes, not days. :)

I've even thought about getting my own matte cutter & learning how to do it myself. Looking around the internet, it doesn't seem too expensive.

Congrats on a cool new toy!

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Old Oct-15-2004, 04:58 PM
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Andy is offline Andy OP
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the print life is much longer than 6months -- canon says "many decades" in their specs.

i won't be printing these for clients - those are done from smugmug / ezprints.

mattes? i'm just going to order a bunch of mattes for the 13x19 paper ... time to go a-googling!

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Originally Posted by dkapp
I've read good things about that printer. I recently bought a new Epson 2200 that can do borderless 13x19, or 13x44 on roll paper.

What is the print life expected to be on that model? I have an s900 that gets about 6 months behind glass. Something you may want to check into if you plan on selling those prints. This is also the main reason for me getting the Epson.

How many 13x19's have you printed yet? I went crazy the first few days with that size! There is nothing like instant gratification of digital. Smugmug has a great product & price, but I like to see my photo in minutes, not days. :)

I've even thought about getting my own matte cutter & learning how to do it myself. Looking around the internet, it doesn't seem too expensive.

Congrats on a cool new toy!

Dave
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Old Oct-15-2004, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by andy
the print life is much longer than 6months -- canon says "many decades" in their specs.

i won't be printing these for clients - those are done from smugmug / ezprints.

mattes? i'm just going to order a bunch of mattes for the 13x19 paper ... time to go a-googling!
Kodak has some new pro inkjet papers, here. They come in either matte (lustre) or glossy. They feel just like RA-4 paper and absorb the ink/dye slightly deeper to prevent bronzing. Their test prints look really good. wxwax and I both picked up a free pack (5) 8.5x11 sheets. He was going to give me his, but if you want it PM him and see if he can drop it in the mail, or maybe a Kodak rep can get you some. This paper holds a lot of promise for making great prints with a traditional print feel and look, time to do some tests.
Old Oct-15-2004, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by dkapp
I've read good things about that printer. I recently bought a new Epson 2200 that can do borderless 13x19, or 13x44 on roll paper.

What is the print life expected to be on that model? I have an s900 that gets about 6 months behind glass. Something you may want to check into if you plan on selling those prints. This is also the main reason for me getting the Epson.

How many 13x19's have you printed yet? I went crazy the first few days with that size! There is nothing like instant gratification of digital. Smugmug has a great product & price, but I like to see my photo in minutes, not days. :)

I've even thought about getting my own matte cutter & learning how to do it myself. Looking around the internet, it doesn't seem too expensive.

Congrats on a cool new toy!

Dave
I have used an Epson 2200 for about 12 months and once I got it dialed in, I have really enjoyed it. I use it for 5x7s on 8x10 stock and for 13x19 on premium photo lustre paper. It blows away the Cibachrome imges I made years ago. I chose the Epson like you because of concerns about longevity. I just preferred the idea of pigment inks versus dyes for long life and stability. But the Canon does get rave reviews I know.
Old Oct-15-2004, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by andy
ok i'm hooked! i came home today and the fedex man had left a new canon i9900 on my doorstep :) whoo-boy, i was excited.
...
this thing does up to 13" x 19" borderless printing, so i'm going
to have some custom mattes made for that size, and then get some 20
x 24 frames from exposuresonline
....
What is the material cost for a 13x19 print?
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Old Oct-15-2004, 07:15 PM
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Andy is offline Andy OP
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don't know, don't care :)
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What is the material cost for a 13x19 print?
dunno, charles but it's priceless to have such quality at home, lemme tell ya!
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Old Oct-15-2004, 07:36 PM
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Andy Congratulations. It is an absolutely amazing printer. I have had mine for bout month month and a half now and it still blows my mind. They did a great write up on the printer in last months issue of shutterbug. The Canon 13X19 Photo Paper Pro costs me bout 28 bucks for a 10 pack at staples. I have tried a bunch of different brands of paper and the Canon photo paper pro is the best stuff I have found. I have heard there is a Canon photo paper film but I have yet to see it anywhere I have looked at least.
Old Oct-16-2004, 01:42 AM
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Aaron Wilson is offline Aaron Wilson
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Andy were do you buy your papper from?
Old Oct-16-2004, 02:40 AM
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Andy were do you buy your papper from?
I've had mine for a couple of months and love it. Load up on extra ink (especially photo cyan) if you are going to make alot of large prints. I went through the photo cyan in a couple of days when I first got the printer. I was printing lots of 19x13. Somehow 8x10 looks puny now . Enjoy.
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Old Oct-16-2004, 02:50 AM
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Great discussion. Damn, now I have printer envy.
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Old Oct-16-2004, 03:12 AM
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Andy is offline Andy OP
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Andy were do you buy your papper from?

looking for good online suppliers now. got any ideas / suggestions?
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Old Oct-16-2004, 05:56 AM
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pathfinder is offline pathfinder
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looking for good online suppliers now. got any ideas / suggestions?

I order from epsonusa.com online and get delivery within 24 hours. I have an order in from Red River Paper also, but have not recieved it yet as it is shipped from Texas - heh hehe Red River!. When it arrives, I will report re its larger size papers.
Inkjetmall.com is another resource that is well thought of
Old Oct-16-2004, 07:36 AM
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I order from epsonusa.com online and get delivery within 24 hours. I have an order in from Red River Paper also, but have not recieved it yet as it is shipped from Texas - heh hehe Red River!. When it arrives, I will report re its larger size papers.
Inkjetmall.com is another resource that is well thought of
I've been using the house paper from Calumet photo called Brilliant Supreme. They have Glossy, Lustre & Matte. So far I've used the Luster & Matte & its great. I probably will never buy glossy paper...I just don't care for it much.

You may want to go to B&H to see what they have. Most places have a sample pack so you can try all the different papers and see what you like best. I just picked up a sample pack of Photo Rag paper. This stuff looks like fun.

Let me know if you find anything good.

Dave
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Old Oct-16-2004, 07:42 AM
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Andy is offline Andy OP
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Great discussion. Damn, now I have printer envy.
fine. i have ff envy. i'll send you my i9900 and my undying love for your ff canon. ?
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Old Oct-16-2004, 08:20 AM
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Congrats on your new printer!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by andy
ok i'm hooked! i came home today and the fedex man had left a new canon i9900 on my doorstep :) whoo-boy, i was excited. it *is* all about the print for me, and at home, i'd been printing up to 8x10s on an inexpensive hp inkjet ... occasionally i'd use a friend's canon for larger prints. well, at around $400 usd, this printer seemed like a good deal, and let me tell you, after a few prints, i'm *hooked* on it :) the prints are really high quality -
even my wife said *wow* and she's not easily impressed :)



this thing does up to 13" x 19" borderless printing, so i'm going
to have some custom mattes made for that size, and then get some 20
x 24 frames from exposuresonline.

most of my prints are done by my smugmug, but there's nothing like doing your own every so often, too ... it's really gratifying to take the shot, work it in post, and then print it yourself, matte, frame it, and hang it on the wall.

enjoy (printing your work) photography,
Ive had mine since it was introduced! Its an awesome printer that yields extremly high quality results - but you already know that!!! I bet those "greens" and "reds" show up really spectacular!!!

troy
Old Oct-16-2004, 12:35 PM
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Sam is offline Sam
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I'm happy for you Andy, but just so the others here don't start felling inadequite, and rush out to buy this printer. I thought I would post a few well known negitive facts about the i9900.

It takes (8) ink cartridges! Many fine printers of today only need half that many. High expense, and serious design flaw.

Way too quite. If you leave the room for say coffee, you will have to keep runng back to see if it's still printing. Why spend resources to eliminate a usefull continuing audible operating notification feature?

Print speed is too fast. A quality job takes time.

Short print life. By their own admission, if you use their paper, and ink, the print life is only 25 years. What a rip off.

6,144 nozzles! Good grief........the other printers do it with far less. Over complicated with more chances for maintenance issues.

Then of course they are brain washing you into printing huge 13" X 19" prints that suck up ink by the gallon, and are the cause of entire forests being cut down.

Just thought you would like to know.


ps: I am not getting one....I am not getting one....I am not getting one....I am not getting one....I am not getting one....I am not getting one....I am not getting one....I am not getting one....
Old Oct-16-2004, 05:42 PM
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Andy is offline Andy OP
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bahahahahahahahaah ©
sam, i had to read your post twice

lol.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam
I'm happy for you Andy, but just so the others here don't start felling inadequite, and rush out to buy this printer. I thought I would post a few well known negitive facts about the i9900.

It takes (8) ink cartridges! Many fine printers of today only need half that many. High expense, and serious design flaw.

Way too quite. If you leave the room for say coffee, you will have to keep runng back to see if it's still printing. Why spend resources to eliminate a usefull continuing audible operating notification feature?

Print speed is too fast. A quality job takes time.

Short print life. By their own admission, if you use their paper, and ink, the print life is only 25 years. What a rip off.

6,144 nozzles! Good grief........the other printers do it with far less. Over complicated with more chances for maintenance issues.

Then of course they are brain washing you into printing huge 13" X 19" prints that suck up ink by the gallon, and are the cause of entire forests being cut down.

Just thought you would like to know.


ps: I am not getting one....I am not getting one....I am not getting one....I am not getting one....I am not getting one....I am not getting one....I am not getting one....I am not getting one....
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Old Oct-16-2004, 06:12 PM
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ian408 is offline ian408
More wag. Less Bark.
I have an older i860 for mostly text printing and have been reasonably
happy with the quality though it realy lacks in the photo printing
arena (it's pitched as more of a 4x6 photo printer which is does ok
with).

I'd be curious to know how the printer stacks up with respect to consumables.
How is it on ink? How many prints of your average size are you able to print
between refills? I know most of this is easy enough to come by in the specs
but real world info would be best.

Ian
Old Oct-16-2004, 06:56 PM
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how does it work for invoices ? Will one of you that is a happy owner let us know what you think the cost of a big print is after a while .I know Andy it is not a concern of yours but to us HOW MUCH DOES IT COST folks concerned minds what to kow!
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