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Seattle Erotic Arts Festival

camblercambler Registered Users Posts: 277 Major grins
edited March 28, 2006 in People
I'm really thrilled to announce that I've had two photographs juried into the Seattle Erotic Arts Festival.

Both are quite non-worksafe, so I will provide links to them rather than post them here.

"A Holding Action" - http://journalpix.com/AHoldingAction-JURY-BRANDED.photo

"Cookies" - http://journalpix.com/Cookies-JURY-BRANDED.photo

I am, understandably I hope, quite pleased.
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    amadeusamadeus Registered Users Posts: 2,125 Major grins
    edited March 25, 2006
    some contest. what the heck is erotic about some naked broad with a bowl of cookie dough on her stomach.

    don't quit your day job.
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    camblercambler Registered Users Posts: 277 Major grins
    edited March 25, 2006
    amadeus wrote:
    some contest. what the heck is erotic about some naked broad with a bowl of cookie dough on her stomach.

    don't quit your day job.

    Wow, you're some piece of work. thumb.gif
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    ridetwistyroadsridetwistyroads Registered Users Posts: 526 Major grins
    edited March 25, 2006
    amadeus wrote:
    some contest. what the heck is erotic about some naked broad with a bowl of cookie dough on her stomach.

    don't quit your day job.

    rolleyes1.gif

    Don't get your shark out - mmmmmk flugs?
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    SystemSystem Registered Users Posts: 8,186 moderator
    edited March 25, 2006
    cambler-

    congrats on the pics-

    as far as I am concerned (I can only speak for myself), and for what it's worth, you are most certainly welcome on this forum-

    george
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    MainFraggerMainFragger Registered Users Posts: 563 Major grins
    edited March 25, 2006
    Don't take it too seriously..
    cambler wrote:
    Wow, you're some piece of work. thumb.gif

    Some of the people around here do...

    MainFragger/Brian
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    ScarhartScarhart Registered Users Posts: 52 Big grins
    edited March 25, 2006
    I like the photos a lot; would like to see the competition. What's the URL?

    I am more than a little surprised by the response from one dgrinner. Since when is the body not a valid subject for art?

    Edit: Corrected, Andy.
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited March 25, 2006
    Scarhart wrote:
    No comment on the work, but am more than a little surprised by the response from dgrinners.

    Correct that: it's ONE person.
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    HeldDownHeldDown Registered Users Posts: 255 Major grins
    edited March 25, 2006
    cambler: congrats on the success! It's always nice to get some recognition.

    While I don't personally care for these at all, it's very clear that you're proud of them and definetely more people than just me are a fan of them! Good work.
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    StormdancingStormdancing Registered Users Posts: 917 Major grins
    edited March 25, 2006
    OK I'll stick my nose in here.

    Congratulations on being selected by the judges. Their choices are what matters in this competition.

    I myself would have some comments on the pictures, not of the subject, but the composition, but since this has become "one of those threads", I'll refrain.

    Post some pics of some nekid men and I might sing a different song.rolleyes1.gif

    Lighten up people.

    One man's trash is another man's treasure.
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    GraphyFotozGraphyFotoz Registered Users Posts: 2,267 Major grins
    edited March 25, 2006
    Well uhhhh Cambler.......glad to hear you got recognized.


    You might wanna study some of this work in the link below.
    I'm not into nudes or porn shots but this link below is professional work!

    Mod edit: Deleted, pornographic material. Not so much the photographs as the ads that accompany them.

    Sorry....I'll PM the link to Cambler....my apologies!
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    GraphyFotozGraphyFotoz Registered Users Posts: 2,267 Major grins
    edited March 25, 2006
    My apologies to the Mods and others
    I wasn't paying attention about the header and footer in the link.:wow

    BIG GOOF

    My humblest apologies to all! :(:
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    amadeusamadeus Registered Users Posts: 2,125 Major grins
    edited March 26, 2006
    Stormdancing wrote:
    One man's trash is another man's treasure.

    they weren't that bad.
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    wholenewlightwholenewlight Registered Users Posts: 1,529 Major grins
    edited March 26, 2006
    interesting work and worthy of the judges selection

    thumb.gif

    beautiful website you have too. "attitudes, artistic, atmospheres, amplitudes" . . . great associations to the shots contained in each gallery! and the shots are great.
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    AngeloAngelo Super Moderators Posts: 8,937 moderator
    edited March 26, 2006
    Your second shot is just terrible!!!

    Everyone knows you never drink Merlot with chocolate chip! What were you thinking man???
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    Art ScottArt Scott Registered Users Posts: 8,959 Major grins
    edited March 26, 2006
    Cambler....I have visited your site and ran all the pics, I do not know how many you entered into the comp, but I saw what I felt was, again this is just my H.O., that there were much better works in your port.......I do not feel that A Holding Action was even close to being one of your better works [personally I would have used small vise grips :D ]....but making it from entry level to an accepted Juried piece is quite a step and the total opinon of the judges. thumb.gifclap.gif Again Congrats on the Accomplishment.


    There are always those that think if it is created in this age it is porn and if the exact same piece of art was created during Da Vinci's time it is art and then there are those that think the sculpture of David and Venus di Milo are porn also......

    It is personal opinon, what is / is not art, and if one can critique the work constructively that is good...but as others have said....We , people in general, should never ATTACK anyone personally.

    The ones that attacked you should spend a little time researching bibical art....as some of it truly verges on the modern def of porn.

    Or at least they should spend a little time in europe or studying european artist and art (of the human body) and photography.

    Americans are way tooooooooo uptight over the showing of nude bodies.

    That is why our children grow up thinking nude and sex are dirty......

    It is art and if you don't like it or its content or message.....DON'T LOoK......cause you just might go blind.
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    photodougphotodoug Registered Users Posts: 870 Major grins
    edited March 26, 2006
    Stormdancing wrote:
    One man's trash is another man's treasure.

    I didn't think they were too trashy, but they needed more cowbell ...

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    ScottMcLeodScottMcLeod Registered Users Posts: 753 Major grins
    edited March 26, 2006
    I'm with everyone above on this one.

    Congrats on the contest, and the subject matter could very well be interesting, but think about your angles, composition, and depth of field.

    These photos look like video stills, f/8 and too much DOF.

    Interest in nude comes when you leave mystery and get the viewer's mind thinking and racing.

    If anything, this should just be more encouragement for you to keep experimenting.
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    camblercambler Registered Users Posts: 277 Major grins
    edited March 26, 2006
    Art Scott wrote:
    I have visited your site and ran all the pics, I do not know how many you entered into the comp, but I saw what I felt was, again this is just my H.O., that there were much better works in your port...

    I entered three, and one (the one that was not chosen) was entered as a friendly joke. Last year I entered my favorite piece ("Why I Like Ballet") and it was rejected as "too vanilla." So this year I did a shot of a woman's crotch with a very large vanilla bean across it and called it, "Vanilla Porn."

    The jury got the joke.

    Since it's a blind judging they didn't know which other pieces were mine, and the other two serious pieces were accepted.

    With that said, yes, I agree, I have other pieces that I like better, too. But one must take the competition and the mindset of the likely judging panel in mind, which is why I chose those two pieces to enter. Thankfully, I guessed right. At the end of the day, my sales (both of the juried art as well as in the festival store) are a decent metric of how well I did - and again, I'm still very pleased. There's a new D200 for me next week when I get my check.

    As to the controversy here, I have nothing to add that hasn't already been said. The world would be a very boring place if everyone liked the same things and held the same opinions on art (or lack thereof).
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    kdogkdog Administrators Posts: 11,680 moderator
    edited March 26, 2006
    cambler wrote:
    As to the controversy here, I have nothing to add that hasn't already been said. The world would be a very boring place if everyone liked the same things and held the same opinions on art (or lack thereof).

    Bingo. What a great attitude you have. Congrats on receiving recognition for your work, and thanks for sharing it. Keep posting.

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    StormdancingStormdancing Registered Users Posts: 917 Major grins
    edited March 26, 2006
    photodoug wrote:
    I didn't think they were too trashy, but they needed more cowbell ...

    cowbell.thumb.gif

    Not stating that camblers work is trash, just that opinions will differ on any one thing. That's all.
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    chrisjleechrisjlee Registered Users Posts: 384 Major grins
    edited March 26, 2006
    cambler wrote:
    Wow, you're some piece of work. thumb.gif

    oh wow. congrats. I saw that photo on Livejournal actually.
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    Steve CaviglianoSteve Cavigliano Super Moderators Posts: 3,599 moderator
    edited March 26, 2006
    WTG Cambler clap.gif

    Yeah, the shots aren't all that artistic and not perfect technically rolleyes1.gif But, they are both very good and worthy of recognition thumb.gif

    I liked the "reach around" the chair, in the first shot and the second one reminded me of one of those Rachel Ray "Dinner in 30 Minutes" TV shows. "OK, you start by putting the dough on your tummy, making sure to dust with flour first......." :lol :lol "Your body heat will cause the dough to start rising" lol3.gif

    Sorry, I couldn't help myself ne_nau.gif

    Nice shots, definitely not trash and I enjoyed both of them thumb.gif

    I hope the negative comments by Mr "Don't Quit Your Day Job", didn't outweigh the useful and more supportive comments you received :D

    Steve

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    StormdancingStormdancing Registered Users Posts: 917 Major grins
    edited March 26, 2006
    Steve Cavigliano wrote:
    Oh yeah, and if we're taking a poll, I vigorously vote no on Storm's neekid men proposal.....Laughing.gif

    HAY!!!
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    thegreeneggthegreenegg Registered Users Posts: 551 Major grins
    edited March 27, 2006
    Cambler,
    Congrads.
    I've seen your work floating around I wanted to comment on some of it.
    So, your not afraid to explore subject matter that some of us are. However, it seems like it all about you having naked ladies in shots and not at all about the composition of the picture, in my opinion.
    That kitchen, I've seen a few shots in it, is just too busy. If she was clothed and had the same pose and everything I think you might get the same comment.
    The 'holding action' picture doesn't hold much for me either. I don't like seeing the window or the chair. If you were to try it again, get her against a clear backdrop and have the man sit below her and grap upwards.
    For me the nude pictures are all about the lines, curves. The first doesn't really have them and the second's is drowned out by the background.
    Pictures on your website show you can take really good shots. So, I will agree with the other person who said these aren't your best.
    Smile,
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    dancinkatedancinkate Registered Users Posts: 267 Major grins
    edited March 27, 2006
    cambler wrote:
    The world would be a very boring place if everyone liked the same things and held the same opinions on art (or lack thereof).
    ITAthumb.gif

    Congrats on getting recognized! clap.gif
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    camblercambler Registered Users Posts: 277 Major grins
    edited March 27, 2006
    thegreenegg wrote:
    However, it seems like it all about you having naked ladies in shots and not at all about the composition of the picture, in my opinion.
    That kitchen, I've seen a few shots in it, is just too busy.
    You know, that's really ironic, because I would think that if there weren't a story being told, it would be even more about the nudity. A nude on a neutral backdrop with no props is even more about the nudity, isn't it?

    In this case, the kitchen is busy for a reason: the shot tells a story. This is one frame from a much larger book - a cookbook of actual recipes with the preparation of each recipe photographed as nudes.

    Is it about naked ladies? Of course it is, just like Playboy is about naked ladies.

    So I appreciate your point, but I find it ironic that the very thing you point out as "bad" in your opinion is exactly what I was going for.

    Again, a perfect example of why art is subjective and neither of us is wrong. :-)
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    thegreeneggthegreenegg Registered Users Posts: 551 Major grins
    edited March 27, 2006
    The kitchen may be busy for a reason, I read why on your website, but I can still tell you it's too distracting. The kitchen has at least three different colors going- grey steel, natural brown wood and white walls. Nice kitchen, except it's got so much going on it grabs from the subject. So, maybe the 'bare' esstentials of the cooking materials and such or in another sleeker looking kitchen would have been better.

    So, I hope I cleared that up. Looks like just a shot of a naked lady because the setting is too busy, hence doesn't show a photographic vision bringing all the elements together to focus on the subject.

    Again, I like other photos on your website a lot better.

    Also, I'm by no means a professional myself, and have no experience in your area but its my .02 take it or through it in a well and make a wish that you win the competition and silence us all.

    Have a good day,
    Ashley
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    camblercambler Registered Users Posts: 277 Major grins
    edited March 27, 2006
    thegreenegg wrote:
    Also, I'm by no means a professional myself, and have no experience in your area but its my .02 take it or through it in a well and make a wish that you win the competition and silence us all.
    No, your opinion is just as valid as anyone else's, including mine! Even if I might disagree with something, it doesn't change the fact that for art, it's all about what you think, as the viewer.

    In the case of Cookies, I think the metric here (strictly for me) is that I sold all but three of the prints I had available and the large, framed version hanging there generated a lot of buzz and good publicity for me, so I did consider it a success. I agree, there are other shots I've done that I like better - but this was chosen quite deliberately for this show, knowing the audience and jury. A few of the points you make were, in fact, things that I suspected the jury would like. Isn't art ironic? :-)
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    FatNakedGuyFatNakedGuy Registered Users Posts: 116 Major grins
    edited March 27, 2006
    Chris, you do a mean camera, bro. Really enjoy your work.

    Also love your Netflix site. Get those bastards!!
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    LeDudeLeDude Registered Users Posts: 501 Major grins
    edited March 27, 2006
    photodoug wrote:
    I didn't think they were too trashy, but they needed more cowbell ...

    cowbell.thumb.gif

    I second that and, if I may, suggest more cowbell at DGrin overall.

    [cling],
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