Keywords on videos

Allen · August 23, 2013

When clicking any keyword under a video the photos show up but videos do not. Same with search but
at least you can click "videos" or "photos and videos" and the do show. Seems the lookup methods are
related but it doesn't work for keywords.

mbonocore · August 23, 2013

Hey Allen,

Can you give me a specific example on your site?

pilotdave · August 23, 2013

mbonocore wrote: »

Hey Allen,

Can you give me a specific example on your site?

Easy example on mine... http://pilotdave.smugmug.com/keyword/video. Works on legacy, nothing found on new smug.

Dave

Jtring · August 23, 2013

Let me jump in with an example since I've been watching this one too. It's come up before.

I think the general issue is that keyword links of any type only search photos, not videos, on the new site. If you go to the /keyword page on my sandbox site and click on "fish", you will see nine results. Do the same thing on my legacy site and the keyword search will find 10 entries. The difference is the video at http://jtringl.smugmug.com/HikingtheWilds/Sierra-Nevada/Tiltill-Loop-Yosemite/i-9mnwWn4 (on the sandbox site). Same result if you click the "fish" keyword link on any picture that has the keyword. The picture right after the video, in the same gallery, has the "fish" keyword and exhibits this behavior.

(BTW, it's not a very good video, but the fisherman in question was happy I shot it.)

Jim Ringland

Allen · August 23, 2013

mbonocore wrote: »

Hey Allen,

Can you give me a specific example on your site?

http://www.photosbyat.com/Birds/Birding-2013-August/2013-08-13-Columbia-Bottom-CA

http://www.photosbyat.com/keyword/bird_videos

search 320 sort newest and those in the above gallery show
http://www.photosbyat.com/search#q=bird_videos&c=media

pbandj · August 24, 2013

Another simple example...

If I search on the word "otter", and click "photos and videos" in the search results, I get this result: http://pattiandjeane.smugmug.com/search/?c=photos&n=pattiandjeane&q=otter#c=media (there are 14 images found, including three videos, because I have the keyword "otter" on those three videos.

But the keyword page for "otter" doesn't show the videos: http://pattiandjeane.smugmug.com/keyword/otter (I only get the 11 photos and no videos)

pbandj · October 3, 2013

Bump!

This is an obvious problem with several examples provided...is it in the queue to be fixed, or has anyone acknowledged the problem?

pilotdave · October 4, 2013

pbandj wrote: »

Bump!

This is an obvious problem with several examples provided...is it in the queue to be fixed, or has anyone acknowledged the problem?

It's in the active bugs list: http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=239997

Dave

beardedgit · October 4, 2013

pilotdave wrote: »

It's in the active bugs list...

That only means that they've identified the bug: "Here you will find all of the identified bugs submitted by the DGrin Community in the Bug Reporting Forum". It doesn't mean that they're working on it, or that they have any plans to work on it. There are still items there that were listed way back in August.

Allen · October 18, 2013

bump

Allen · December 11, 2013

Using Smug system /keyword page

IE11 logged out using /keyword/bird_videos >> videos show up now (361)

FF26 logged out using /keyword/bird_videos >> videos show up now (361)

iPhone Safari logged out using /keyword/bird_videos >> videos show up now (361)

IE11 & FF26 Specific KW with photos and videos. Logged out both photos and videos show.

IE11 & FF26 Specific KW with photos and videos. Logged in NO videos show only photos.

http://www.photosbyat.com/keyword/western%20wood_pewee

IE11 logged in using /keyword/bird_videos >> No videos show

FF26 logged in using /keyword/bird_videos >> No videos show

FF26 logged in using smart gallery >> videos show up (361)

http://www.photosbyat.com/MyKeywords/Bird-Videos (unveiled)

Even though the videos do not show logged in, the Combine with: and Related know they exist (sysyem /keyword page).
Related keywords: flycatchers pewees bird_videos col...
Combine with: +flycatchers +pewees +bird_videos +colorado birds+bird species photographed in missouri+missouri birds+rare_bird+singing birds

Funny thing is that KW bird_videos does not show when logged out in Related or Combine.
Logged out KW whooping crane
related keywords: birds in texas | shorebirds | cranes | deer
combine with: +birds in texas | +shorebirds | +cranes | +deer
Logged in KW whooping crane
Related keywords: birds in texas shorebirds cranes deer birds in indiana bird_videos
Combine with: +birds in texas+shorebirds+cranes+deer+birds in indiana+bird_videos

pbandj · December 11, 2013

Odd...my keyword pages still do not show videos, no matter whether I'm logged in or logged out. I have a keyword "video" on my videos, and when I click on the that keyword I get an "empty gallery" message on the keyword page. As I said, this happens when I'm logged out or logged in.

Jtring · December 12, 2013

I'm not seeing it on my site either although I can see it at www.photosbyat.com. My test case is a video of a friend catching a trout. It has the keyword "fish". Logged in or not, Chrome or Firefix, the search box on my Tools page brings up the video when I search on "fish", but "fish" from the keyword list shows only images. You've found something magical Allen, if it can just be isolated. Wonder if the Heroes can compare sites to see why the keyword search works in one place but not in another?

Jim Ringland
jtringl.smugmug.com

pbandj · December 12, 2013

Jtring wrote: »

I'm not seeing it on my site either although I can see it at www.photosbyat.com. My test case is a video of a friend catching a trout. It has the keyword "fish". Logged in or not, Chrome or Firefix, the search box on my Tools page brings up the video when I search on "fish", but "fish" from the keyword list shows only images. You've found something magical Allen, if it can just be isolated. Wonder if the Heroes can compare sites to see why the keyword search works in one place but not in another?

Jim Ringland
jtringl.smugmug.com

photosbyat.com is still a legacy smugmug site; I'm pretty sure Allen hasn't unveiled yet. Allen -- Are you seeing the videos show up on your keyword pages in your migrated-but-not-unveiled NEW smugmug site?

Allen · December 12, 2013

pbandj wrote: »

photosbyat.com is still a legacy smugmug site; I'm pretty sure Allen hasn't unveiled yet. Allen -- Are you seeing the videos show up on your keyword pages in your migrated-but-not-unveiled NEW smugmug site?

This has been around so long I guess I got confused. Legacy is working but not NewSmug. Although
NewSmug knows they exist because the KW shows in Combine and Related.

pilotdave · December 12, 2013

Allen wrote: »

This has been around so long I guess I got confused. Legacy is working but not NewSmug. Although
NewSmug knows they exist because the KW shows in Combine and Related.

The lack of bug fixes related to keywords has me wondering if there are patent/lawsuit issues involved. I can't imagine smugmug is just not capable of fixing these bugs after this long. Doesn't give me much confidence in the future of smugmug.

Dave

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