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Old Oct-14-2005, 10:37 AM
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themes deployment - the next big thing
It appears the smugmug folks have started deploying the much anticipated themes. Only a couple are available right now, but the Halloween theme looks great on my site. Very classy - good job. Looking forward to more themes coming down the road.
Old Oct-14-2005, 10:46 AM
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themes allow you to revert back to old smugmug style
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Originally Posted by gblotter
It appears the smugmug folks have started deploying the much anticipated themes. Only a couple are available right now, but the Halloween theme looks great on my site. Very classy - good job. Looking forward to more themes coming down the road.
Here's another bonus associated with the newly-deployed themes: For those who hate the new green text and other recent style changes, the themes functionality allows you to revert back to "smugmug classic" with no css coding pain. Cheers!

Old Oct-14-2005, 10:48 AM
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Gblotter,

Will you share your site, so we can see the Halloween theme in action?

Thanks in advance.

Fred
Old Oct-14-2005, 10:54 AM
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I just saw the test one here by BigWebGuy! Is this the one they implemented? It looks great. Here's the link in case anyone wants to see it.

http://bigwebguy2.smugmug.com
Old Oct-14-2005, 10:54 AM
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http://bigwebguy2.smugmug.com

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Gblotter,

Will you share your site, so we can see the Halloween theme in action?

Thanks in advance.

Fred
Old Oct-14-2005, 11:00 AM
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I got 3 themes:
Halloween 1 (don't use it at the moment)
Sand (don't use it at the moment)
and smugmug classic is back. (don't use it at the moment)

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Last edited by rainforest1155; Oct-31-2005 at 03:42 AM.
Old Oct-14-2005, 11:40 AM
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Here's an example halloween in action:

http://heritageoaks.smugmug.com/gallery/32629/1/1194743

It's from bigwebguy.

Also, we called one of his themes "Sand" and here's an example site that uses it for its home page:

http://heritageoaks.smugmug.com/

We had to debug/adapt them a little. Hopefully, this is the beginning of something really fun and useful!
Old Oct-14-2005, 12:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Baldy
Here's an example halloween in action:

http://heritageoaks.smugmug.com/gallery/32629/1/1194743

It's from bigwebguy.

Also, we called one of his themes "Sand" and here's an example site that uses it for its home page:

http://heritageoaks.smugmug.com/

We had to debug/adapt them a little. Hopefully, this is the beginning of something really fun and useful!
I'm having a bunch of display problems with the Sand theme. Here's what I see when I go to the above link on Firefox. See the rectangle through the lower part of the main image. If I try it on one of my own images, I also see the tools: drop-downs over the top of the main image. I don't see this problem on IE. Here's what I see in Firefox.



And here's what it looks like on Firefox when you're logged in. Notice the tool drop-downs floating over the image and the add caption rectangle over the bottom of the image.

Old Oct-14-2005, 12:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfriend
I'm having a bunch of display problems with the Sand theme. Here's what I see when I go to the above link on Firefox. See the rectangle through the lower part of the main image. If I try it on one of my own images, I also see the tools: drop-downs over the top of the main image. I don't see this problem on IE. Here's what I see in Firefox.



And here's what it looks like on Firefox when you're logged in. Notice the tool drop-downs floating over the image and the add caption rectangle over the bottom of the image.

That's intentional. It's how BigWebGuy wanted it designed. :)

If you don't like it, you're free to "view source" and copy & paste to create your own theme, removing the floating features.

Don
Old Oct-14-2005, 12:46 PM
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That's intentional. It's how BigWebGuy wanted it designed. :)

If you don't like it, you're free to "view source" and copy & paste to create your own theme, removing the floating features.

Don
Are you joking with me here? I'm just surprised you would think this was a "good theme" or that it was polished - it looks like it's not quite done yet. If you have no caption, on IE, you get a green bordered rectangle overlapping the lower left of your image. On Firefox you get a nearly full width green bordered rectangle overlapping near the bottom of the image. Both look silly.

No big deal to me. I just won't use that theme or will fix it myself if I do want to use it, but I thought the point of themes was that regular users (non-coding users) could just pick a theme in a few seconds and be done. IMO, this theme doesn't live up to typical smugmug standards.

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Old Oct-14-2005, 01:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfriend
Are you joking with me here? I'm just surprised you would think this was a "good theme" or that it was polished - it looks like it's not quite done yet. If you have no caption, on IE, you get a green bordered rectangle overlapping the lower left of your image. On Firefox you get a nearly full width green bordered rectangle overlapping near the bottom of the image. Both look silly.

No big deal to me. I just won't use that theme or will fix it myself if I do want to use it, but I thought the point of themes was that regular users (non-coding users) could just pick a theme in a few seconds and be done. IMO, this theme doesn't live up to typical smugmug standards.

--John
I agree :)
This theme needs a little more browser-compatibility testing :=)
That can be quite a lot of work, but hey...
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Old Oct-14-2005, 01:49 PM
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when i was using this theme as my own, i had a bit of javascript to remove the caption if there was none.

when i submitted it to smugmug, i removed the "floating features" so this wouldn't be an issue without the javascript.

i got confirmation that they received it and liked it and thought then that they had pulled the code.

i then went back and re-added the floating stuff because I liked it. I guess smugmug went and took the code for it after i thought they did.

it's an easy enough fix and i'm sure they will address it....just a miscommunication on my part and part of the "feeling out" of this new process.

as for browser compatibility....on my site it was tested in firefox, opera and IE on xp and safari and firefox on mac all without problem. I am not aware of the debugging they had to do to it, but if you have an example of a browser issue other than not liking the "floating features", please post it.

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I agree :)
This theme needs a little more browser-compatibility testing :=)
That can be quite a lot of work, but hey...
-- Anton.
Old Oct-14-2005, 01:52 PM
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flyingdutchie is offline flyingdutchie
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigwebguy
when i was using this theme as my own, i had a bit of javascript to remove the caption if there was none.

when i submitted it to smugmug, i removed the "floating features" so this wouldn't be an issue without the javascript.

i got confirmation that they received it and liked it and thought then that they had pulled the code.

i then went back and re-added the floating stuff because I liked it. I guess smugmug went and took the code for it after i thought they did.

it's an easy enough fix and i'm sure they will address it....just a miscommunication on my part and part of the "feeling out" of this new process.

as for browser compatibility....on my site it was tested in firefox, opera and IE on xp and safari and firefox on mac all without problem. if you have an example of a browser issue other than not liking the "floating features", please post it.
Ah.. now i understand.. the floating features need javascript to be working properly. The javascript was pulled, but not the floating boxes (at first i thought the CSS was misbehaving on some browsers). I see you've tested on enough browsers
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Old Oct-14-2005, 02:22 PM
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if you want to use it until smugmug updates it, put this in your javascript customization

Code:
String.prototype.trim = function() {
 var x = this;
 x = x.replace(/^\s*(.*)/, "$1");
 x = x.replace(/(.*?)\s*$/, "$1");
 return x;
 }
 
 function clearCaption() {
var cap = new Array();
cap[0] = document.getElementById("caption_top");
cap[1] = document.getElementById("caption_bottom");

for (var i=0; i<cap.length; i++) {
if (cap[i]) {
if (cap[i].innerHTML.trim().length == 0) {
cap[i].style.display = "none";
}
}
}
}
and this in your body section:

Code:
<body onLoad="clearCaption()">
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfriend
Are you joking with me here? I'm just surprised you would think this was a "good theme" or that it was polished - it looks like it's not quite done yet. If you have no caption, on IE, you get a green bordered rectangle overlapping the lower left of your image. On Firefox you get a nearly full width green bordered rectangle overlapping near the bottom of the image. Both look silly.

No big deal to me. I just won't use that theme or will fix it myself if I do want to use it, but I thought the point of themes was that regular users (non-coding users) could just pick a theme in a few seconds and be done. IMO, this theme doesn't live up to typical smugmug standards.

--John

Last edited by bwg; Oct-14-2005 at 02:42 PM. Reason: updated javascript to get both captions
Old Oct-14-2005, 02:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigwebguy
if you want to use it until smugmug updates it, put this in your javascript customization

Code:
String.prototype.trim = function() {
var x = this;
x = x.replace(/^\s*(.*)/, "$1");
x = x.replace(/(.*?)\s*$/, "$1");
return x;
}
 
function clearCaption() {
var cap = document.getElementById("caption_bottom");
 
if (!cap)
return(0);
 
if (cap.innerHTML.trim().length == 0) {
cap.style.display = "none";
}
}
and this in your body section:

Code:
<body onLoad="clearCaption()">
Thanks for the code-snippet!!
In my galleries, empty captions do show up as small empty blue boxes. This is how i can get rid of them!
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Old Oct-14-2005, 02:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Baldy

We had to debug/adapt them a little. Hopefully, this is the beginning of something really fun and useful!

so, there i am, in nyc in front of 2 dozen reporters, and one guy is interviewing me on tv for smugmug. one of the reporters shouts out: "lemme see you create a gallery on the fly, and upload some photos to it!"

OK

so i'm doin' my thang, hit "create gallery" and i name it, category, etc. then i do a double take, and let out a "holy schmoly, look at that, we got themes!" the reporters looked at me, and i then finished the setup, loaded a bunch of photos, and showed the halloween gallery (great job, lee/bigwebguy!!!!)...... the reporter asked: "is that new?" i said: "it's so new, it's still sticking to the pan!" i then showed them digital grin, and the theme bounty thread - and how you guys, our customers and users of the system, create the themes - and how that they went from thougth to finish in such short order - namely being loaded into the system while i was speaking with the reporters this morning in nyc onethumb, jt, baldy, and the whole smugmug crew:

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Old Oct-14-2005, 02:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andy
so, there i am, in nyc in front of 2 dozen reporters, and one guy is interviewing me on tv for smugmug. one of the reporters shouts out: "lemme see you create a gallery on the fly, and upload some photos to it!"
Great story! Lucky you not getting an outage at the moment. What exhibition was that?

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Old Oct-14-2005, 02:56 PM
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Old Oct-14-2005, 03:15 PM
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Onethumb was saying themes have been chosen something like 813 times already today. The most popular one is Halloween, doncha know. That theme seriously rocks.
Old Oct-14-2005, 03:30 PM
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RE: the floating captions..

It is actually something we have seen customers ask for. A lot of customers want their captions a lot more obvious (like bigwebguy, who designed his site that way). He did a great job with it, so we went with it. The whole point behind themes is to give customers a lot of options to display their galleries. In the future there may be a Sand theme without floating captions, we will have to judge feedback, etc.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if there are themes where the tools overlap some of the display. It is VERY common for customized sites to look rough around the edges when you are logged in, but exceptionally polished when logged out. In the Sand theme, there isn't enough extra screen realestate to put the drop-down menus elsewhere, which is why they overlap the images. It sure does look sexy when logged out though.
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