Challenge 14 Voting Thread

[Shay Stephens]

The glorious moment anticipated by many has finally arrived. Put down the cameras for a moment and prepare your eyes for a visual feast. Once you have carefully pondered each photo. It is then up to you to vote for your favorite.

damonff, daughter and mother


ginger, child


shakey, any step will do


dkapp, reflection in the metro


gypsy an intent artist


gubbs, flowers in rush hour


sandy, engrossed


seemoon, bird


snapapple, manicure


davidto, friends

[DoctorIt]

voting buttons missing... are they on delay (like last week)? did we figure that out?

[Shay Stephens]

Originally Posted by DoctorIt

voting buttons missing... are they on delay (like last week)? did we figure that out?

Sorry, no time to answer questions. My work here is done. I am ready for beam out Scotty!
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Now would be a good time!!!

Nut's it must be down again. While I wait for them to get me out of here, I will answer your question:

No, there is no delay, what are you talking about? The poll is right there at the top. Voting buttons missing?!?! I am so sure!

[DavidTO]

Originally Posted by Shay Stephens

The glorious moment anticipated by many has finally arrived. Put down the cameras for a moment and prepare your eyes for a visual feast. Once you have carefully pondered each photo. It is then up to you to vote for your favorite.

Well, my favorite is mine...

But that doesn't mean that I think it's the best...

So I voted for the one I thought best.

;)

[gus]

So some of us didnt make the cut ?????????????

[gus]

100 people have looked at this thread since i posted my query...you going to tell me no-one has an answer to whats going on ?




Hands up whom else had their photo dropped ?

[lynnma]

Originally Posted by Humungus

100 people have looked at this thread since i posted my query...you going to tell me no-one has an answer to whats going on ?




Hands up whom else had their photo dropped ?

I'm not sure what you mean humy... only ten can be chosen..

[gus]

Originally Posted by lynnma

I'm not sure what you mean humy... only ten can be chosen..

Im stuffed if i was aware of that ?? My fault if it is written somewhere.

Thanks for being the one to answer me though lynn Must have been an Act5: Amendment 13 to the rules of the comp....my copy is probably still on the water.

Personally i liked it better the way it was when fish was doing it....one shot...one post...ALL in.... not just the 10 best photographers. Talk about turning our back on new people !!!

I do not tolerate separatism at all ....it corrupts.

[AltPro]

Originally Posted by Humungus

Im stuffed if i was aware of that ?? My fault if it is written somewhere.
Thanks for being the one to answer me though lynn Must have been an Act5: Amendment 13 to the rules of the comp....my copy is probably still on the water.
Personally i liked it better the way it was when fish was doing it....one shot...one post...ALL in.... not just the 10 best photographers. Talk about turning our back on new people !!!
I do not tolerate separatism at all ....it corrupts.

Dan,
While I can totally understand where you are coming from in your frustration, I really think that 10 "Finalists" are still about 5 too many. Perhaps what might be considered would be to compile a list of all of the images for the assignment and then have two votes? The first to determine who the 5 finalists will be, the second to determine the overall winner. (Yet the problem with that approach again makes for more work for the moderator, and takes even more power of decision away from the "moderator/judge," whom I am suppossed to give credit for having more "knowledge and experience in these areas, than I.)
Please note, I did not enter this past weeks assignment. Somewhere along the line during the "Pathways" assignment, I determined for myself, that I did not want to just post an entry for the sake of posting an entry, and so, when I was not really happy with any of my work for this assignment, I opted out. Maybe I'm a snob? I hope not, but if I am thought to be, am I really if all I want is to feel that when one of my photos is listed as a finalist, it is truly worthy of that placement? "The Critical Eye?"

Dan, you do beautiful work-- (as do many others involved with this forum.) I often see accolades to attest that listed on this site. Beginners and pros alike receive input and constructive criticism here... In just the few short months I have been here, I can see how far some have come... That being said however, doing great work does not always mean that the work one submits is the best of the whole, or worthy of being the absolute favorite of the group, at any particular time. There are no guarantees... Peer Perspective and the Critical Eye can at times seem fickle. This should never become a popularity contest. People should not be chosen simply because they entered, or because they haven't won before... They should be chosen based on the merits of that 1 individual photo, as if it were the only photo they ever submitted.

Verbalizing these thoughts makes my belief that 10 finalists is too many even more staunch. There has to be a cut off somewhere... Sad is the day when it is "your" photo, or mine...
Please Forgive my diatribe.
I remain,
too often the one with foot in mouth,
ginette

[Andy]

Originally Posted by Humungus

Im stuffed if i was aware of that ?? My fault if it is written somewhere.

Thanks for being the one to answer me though lynn Must have been an Act5: Amendment 13 to the rules of the comp....my copy is probably still on the water.

Personally i liked it better the way it was when fish was doing it....one shot...one post...ALL in.... not just the 10 best photographers. Talk about turning our back on new people !!!

I do not tolerate separatism at all ....it corrupts.

let me restate the rules

up till now, you could enter three and i pick ten finalists. then you guys vote for the one winner. i don't see how this is turning our backs on new people? in fact, i took alot of time after the last challenge and gave critique for every single shot that was entered.

[Andy]

Originally Posted by AltPro

Dan,
While I can totally understand where you are coming from in your frustration, I really think that 10 "Finalists" are still about 5 too many. Perhaps what might be considered would be to compile a list of all of the images for the assignment and then have two votes? The first to determine who the 5 finalists will be, the second to determine the overall winner. (Yet the problem with that approach again makes for more work for the moderator, and takes even more power of decision away from the "moderator/judge," whom I am suppossed to give credit for having more "knowledge and experience in these areas, than I.)
Please note, I did not enter this past weeks assignment. Somewhere along the line during the "Pathways" assignment, I determined for myself, that I did not want to just post an entry for the sake of posting an entry, and so, when I was not really happy with any of my work for this assignment, I opted out. Maybe I'm a snob? I hope not, but if I am thought to be, am I really if all I want is to feel that when one of my photos is listed as a finalist, it is truly worthy of that placement? "The Critical Eye?"

Dan, you do beautiful work-- (as do many others involved with this forum.) I often see accolades to attest that listed on this site. Beginners and pros alike receive input and constructive criticism here... In just the few short months I have been here, I can see how far some have come... That being said however, doing great work does not always mean that the work one submits is the best of the whole, or worthy of being the absolute favorite of the group, at any particular time. There are no guarantees... Peer Perspective and the Critical Eye can at times seem fickle. This should never become a popularity contest. People should not be chosen simply because they entered, or because they haven't won before... They should be chosen based on the merits of that 1 individual photo, as if it were the only photo they ever submitted.

Verbalizing these thoughts makes my belief that 10 finalists is too many even more staunch. There has to be a cut off somewhere... Sad is the day when it is "your" photo, or mine...
Please Forgive my diatribe.
I remain,
too often the one with foot in mouth,
ginette

i will be keeping it between 5 and 10 finalists. what will change, is that the number of entries is going to go from three to one, per person.

i'm a firm believer in that the artist has to be super self-critical, so you've got to choose which of your possibles you want to be the one single entry into the challenge.

of course, the other "shots" forums and the photoshop shenanigans forum are availalbe for critique, advice etc during the challenge period

[Andy]

Originally Posted by Humungus

100 people have looked at this thread since i posted my query...you going to tell me no-one has an answer to whats going on ?




Hands up whom else had their photo dropped ?

'gus, i thought in your post here you were kidding ... aw

[Andy]

Originally Posted by Humungus

I do not tolerate separatism at all ....it corrupts.

i can assure you, there is no separatism here, and that i spend tons of time evaluating each and every entry in the challenges.

and after the evaluations, everyone who wasn't chosen, they get a critique from me. and after the voting, the finalists all get a post from me as to why they were chosen. here's the comment i made to your finalist in the last challenge

[ginger_55]

I am new, I am honored to be in the ten, this time.

Are you a philosophy major?

ginger

[DoctorIt]

Originally Posted by ginger_55

Are you a philosophy major?

Nope. engineer.

Oh wait... were you asking Andy? Ginette? Gus? My vote between those three would definitely be on Ginette. As usual, I'd send her in to negotiate with the nutjob wielding a bomb.

[snapapple]

I am honored to be among the 10 finalists. I noticed my picture did not receive any votes, but that's OK. I don't think it's the best either. Actually I liked my "Sippin'" picture better. I think it had more personality. I'm anxious to see Andy's comments on why he liked "manicure" better. I really liked the comments from Andy on all the shots. This demonstrates to me how an expert opinion is better than voting from the members on picking the finalists. There is a lot there from which we can all learn.
One comment on the voting - I'm not sure we should be able to see how the voting is going during the poll. I think it would be better to just show the totals at the end. I think there is a subtle influence on the voter when they see which shot is getting the early votes. It takes away from the independent choice. Does anyone else get this feeling?

[damonff]

I'm not sure we should be able to see how the voting is going during the poll. I think it would be better to just show the totals at the end. I think there is a subtle influence on the voter when they see which shot is getting the early votes. It takes away from the independent choice. Does anyone else get this feeling?[/QUOTE]
Well, we can't see the results until after we vote, so it already is the way you want it.

[Andy]

Well, we can't see the results until after we vote, so it already is the way you want it.

yeh, that's the way i thought it was

thanks for confirming, damon ;-)

[dkapp]

You can see the totals if you have already voted, or have not logged in.

This is a feature of the software. It keeps unregistered users from voting and possibly messing w/ the results.

Dave

[GREAPER]

actually you can click on the button in the lower right of the poll and see the votes even if you havn't voted and are logged in.

You have to control yourself and not look before you vote. Or run the risk of being influenced.

I have not voted and am logged in and I just looked.