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Major grins
Join Date: Mar 2008
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My DIY Beauty Dish For SpeedLights - Step by Step
After being inspired by strobist.com and David Tejada, I decided to try putting together a beauty light as a small project.
It was cheap, easy, and fun! Parts List: 1) Tupperware bowl (sized for like chips at a party, or large mixing bowl), $2 2) One gutter downspout connector, ~$2 3) An old CD, and an old 50-pack plastic CD container (free) 4) Automotive extended view round mirror, $2 5) Glue (I used blue silicone sealant for part of this but would just use strong glue next time) 6) Velcro 7) To connect the flash to the stand, any flash mount / clamp / umbrella bracket will do 8) Black and silver spray paint, $7 9) Fine grit sandpaper and/or steel wool Some of this might have been unneccesary or overkill but I enjoyed playing around with it a little bit. I don't have prices listed for the items that I had laying around the house. Steps That I Used: 1) The bowl that I bought was red shiny plastic. I wasn't sure how well the spray paint would stick to it, so I roughed up the surface a little bit with the sandpaper and steel wool: ![]() ![]() 2) I did the painting in several stages of light coats, with steel wool in between to smooth it out (again, taking it real slow): ![]() Some people online have used white for the inside of the DIY beauty dishes, I just happened to choose silver (my shot-in-the-dark theory on this was that you lose a stop or so with the beauty dish so maybe the silver metallic would be more reflective than white and help the light transfer to be a little more efficient). I used black for the outside of the bowl: ![]() 3) I took the old cd, painted one side black and left the other side silver ![]() 4) Took the automotive mirror and glued it to the silver side of the CD, then glue the black side of the CD to the inside top of the clear plastic CD holder: ![]() 5) Next step was cutting out the bottom of the bowl. My plan was to use the gutter spout for the size of the hole, but since it is slightly larger than the head of my speedlight, I'll need to use something fill the gap when the dish is mounted, but this will also give me flexibility to use this dish on larger flash-heads in the future. I used a dremel but you can (carefully, and at your own risk) use an exacto, hot knife, torch, or jackhammer. Use the same method to cut out the bottom of the black plastic part of the CD holder/tray (which I also painted silver for the part that would be showing inside the dish): ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Since I wasn't in a hurry, I did several test fits as I was cutting to make sure that I didn't make the hole too large for the gutter piece to fit - I am planning on gluing it all together of course but a snug fit is preferred. ![]() ![]() 6) Place the CD tray in the bottom of the bowl, line up the holes and glue it to the bowl. In the meantime I spray painted the gutter piece black. ![]() Here's a peek inside the assembled dish: ![]() A few shots of the finished product: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I still need to apply the sealing method to the inside of the gutter piece, probably some velcro or small strip of weather / door / window sealant: ![]() Here's a quick-n-dirty non-scientific example of the output against a wall; this shot is very close to the wall, maybe 18 inches or so: ![]() This one is a few feet away from the wall: ![]() Note: I left my Stofen Omnibounce in place on my SB600 during this experiment; I'll keep playing with it to see if I like it on or off in conjunction with the beauty dish, but comments and suggestions are definitely welcome... thanks everyone!!! Also, not shown are the velcro squares on the back of the bowl, used to strap the flash head to the dish. The dish setup is extremely light, so no additional support is being used currently other than the flash head. The flash is then mounted to an umbrella bracket / flash stand, etc.
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Beginner grinner
Join Date: May 2009
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Can we see an example of something taken with it?
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Still learnin'still lovin
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Illinois cornfield
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Major grins
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 558
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I'll definitely post some up when I have a chance; I shot 4 events in the past 2 days and am sifting through ~24gb of raw files...
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Major grins
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Here are a couple of quick portrait tests... my 2y/o was watching TV, all lights were out except the TV.
SB600 was in the beauty dish, 17-50mm 2.8 lens, flash was in left hand, TTL connected by hotshoe cord, both shots are 1/60th, f5.0, ISO250. Light was held close to her face, just out of frame left... ![]() ![]() No editing or exposure correction to either of these shots except cropping and +26 vibrance.
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Still learnin'still lovin
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Illinois cornfield
Posts: 11,108
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John, tell your daughter she makes a lovely model.
That is a very pleasing rolloff into the shadows and good modeling of the face. Much better than I would have expected from the diameter of the dish. Good job. ![]() I would suggest that the catch light in the eyes would probably look better if they were changed into white circles instead of white donuts, but that's like a 2 second fix. (That's also common to many of the beauty dish designs.) |
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Major grins
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 558
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Thanks Ziggy! Good suggestion, I can clone the middle of the catchlight pretty easily - what is generally regarded as the most appealing catchlight shape? Full circle > Square/Box > Donut? My next little DIY projects are more flash modifiers. I'm making a straw / cereal box grid and a paper towel roll snoot! Here's a sneak peak: ![]() ![]() ![]()
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John in Georgia Bodies - D3 (x2) | D700 | D200 Lenses - 14-24 f/2.8| 14mm f/2.8 | DX17-50 f2.8 | DX18-200VR | 28mm f1.8 | 28-70 f/2.8 | 50mm f1.4 | 85mm f1.4 | 70-200mm f2.8VR | 80-400VR | 400mm f/2.8II Fun Stuff - SB900x2 | SB800x6 | GoProHD | Stickypod | My Videos | JohnTookMyPicture.com | My Portfolio "Become a Fan" of my photography on Facebook | Follow me on Twitter |
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Photo Engineer
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Austin, TX
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I love DIY camera gear. Great job. It gives students like myself hope.
I'm excited to see your next project.
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ANTHONY [AMG]photos [Yashica Lynx 14E | Canon 30D | Tamron 17-50 f/2.8 | 540ez | Cactus V4s] |
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Major grins
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 558
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Some updated projects from this weekend....
Beauty dish next to the Smith-Victor beginner / budget set of hot lights ![]() Picked up a used GF to add to the mix: ![]() Snoot made from a paper towel tube, gutter connector, and gaffer's tape (and some flat black spray paint): ![]() ![]()
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John in Georgia Bodies - D3 (x2) | D700 | D200 Lenses - 14-24 f/2.8| 14mm f/2.8 | DX17-50 f2.8 | DX18-200VR | 28mm f1.8 | 28-70 f/2.8 | 50mm f1.4 | 85mm f1.4 | 70-200mm f2.8VR | 80-400VR | 400mm f/2.8II Fun Stuff - SB900x2 | SB800x6 | GoProHD | Stickypod | My Videos | JohnTookMyPicture.com | My Portfolio "Become a Fan" of my photography on Facebook | Follow me on Twitter |
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Join Date: Mar 2008
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Got some more pics of my DIY grid and snoot today...
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John in Georgia Bodies - D3 (x2) | D700 | D200 Lenses - 14-24 f/2.8| 14mm f/2.8 | DX17-50 f2.8 | DX18-200VR | 28mm f1.8 | 28-70 f/2.8 | 50mm f1.4 | 85mm f1.4 | 70-200mm f2.8VR | 80-400VR | 400mm f/2.8II Fun Stuff - SB900x2 | SB800x6 | GoProHD | Stickypod | My Videos | JohnTookMyPicture.com | My Portfolio "Become a Fan" of my photography on Facebook | Follow me on Twitter |
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pixel hack
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 2,298
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So on your beauty dish, have you tried it with and without the stofen diffuser on the flash?
I made the same dish you have and tried it out a bunch this fall. There are a lot of issues though and for now, I much prefer a regular beauty dish and studio strobe. The main reason is cited on strobist-- basically beauty dishes work better when you have a bare bulb rather than the flash going straight forward like it does with the DIY design. Does your stofen help with that? Have you tried it with and without the stofen? Can you tell a difference? Also, the silver vs white interior is not just about the power of the light, it's about the quality. White will leave a little softer look while the silver will be a little harsher-- just like with reflectors. Here's one of my shots with my DIY beauty dish (it's painted white inside)-- reflector used for fill.
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Major grins
Join Date: Mar 2008
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So you mean just the stofen, and not the mirror or clear cd case? I haven't tried that, but I'll try to give it a test soon...
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John in Georgia Bodies - D3 (x2) | D700 | D200 Lenses - 14-24 f/2.8| 14mm f/2.8 | DX17-50 f2.8 | DX18-200VR | 28mm f1.8 | 28-70 f/2.8 | 50mm f1.4 | 85mm f1.4 | 70-200mm f2.8VR | 80-400VR | 400mm f/2.8II Fun Stuff - SB900x2 | SB800x6 | GoProHD | Stickypod | My Videos | JohnTookMyPicture.com | My Portfolio "Become a Fan" of my photography on Facebook | Follow me on Twitter |
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Major grins
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Here's the straw grid in action:
Firing, side view: ![]() Firing, looking head on: ![]() Firing at the wall: ![]() Just messing around tonight, I lit this with an SB600 through a stofen and umbrella at 1/128th on her face and an SB600 through the grid at TTL pointed at the 9mm:
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John in Georgia Bodies - D3 (x2) | D700 | D200 Lenses - 14-24 f/2.8| 14mm f/2.8 | DX17-50 f2.8 | DX18-200VR | 28mm f1.8 | 28-70 f/2.8 | 50mm f1.4 | 85mm f1.4 | 70-200mm f2.8VR | 80-400VR | 400mm f/2.8II Fun Stuff - SB900x2 | SB800x6 | GoProHD | Stickypod | My Videos | JohnTookMyPicture.com | My Portfolio "Become a Fan" of my photography on Facebook | Follow me on Twitter |
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Join Date: Nov 2005
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One more sample from mine-- no reflector on this one.
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Big grins
Join Date: Aug 2008
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I did this also, I didn't have a mirror handy, so used tinfoil and used a silver bowl.
![]() ![]() results at about 3 feet away from flash SOC - before is no flash and after is with of course
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Major grins
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Ahh, ok gotcha - I haven't done that but will run a few examples this week. My first thought was that the stofen would cut too much output from the flash but a back to back would be a good idea.
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John in Georgia Bodies - D3 (x2) | D700 | D200 Lenses - 14-24 f/2.8| 14mm f/2.8 | DX17-50 f2.8 | DX18-200VR | 28mm f1.8 | 28-70 f/2.8 | 50mm f1.4 | 85mm f1.4 | 70-200mm f2.8VR | 80-400VR | 400mm f/2.8II Fun Stuff - SB900x2 | SB800x6 | GoProHD | Stickypod | My Videos | JohnTookMyPicture.com | My Portfolio "Become a Fan" of my photography on Facebook | Follow me on Twitter |
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Shutter Never Sleeps
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: TR,NJ
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Ted It's not what you look at that matters: Its what you see! Nikon D90, D50, 50 f1.8, 85 f1.8D, AFS 24-85 f3.5-4.5, 70-300 VR Tamron 70-200 f2.8, 28-75 f2.8 macro, 18-200 f3.5-6.3, Tokina 12-24 My Pictures can be seen at http://www.time2smile.smugmug.com |
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Major grins
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Thanks! I enjoyed putting it together! I made a new post for the straw grid, and will post some example photos there also.... here's the link to that post: http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?p=1131745
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John in Georgia Bodies - D3 (x2) | D700 | D200 Lenses - 14-24 f/2.8| 14mm f/2.8 | DX17-50 f2.8 | DX18-200VR | 28mm f1.8 | 28-70 f/2.8 | 50mm f1.4 | 85mm f1.4 | 70-200mm f2.8VR | 80-400VR | 400mm f/2.8II Fun Stuff - SB900x2 | SB800x6 | GoProHD | Stickypod | My Videos | JohnTookMyPicture.com | My Portfolio "Become a Fan" of my photography on Facebook | Follow me on Twitter |
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