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Old Sep-22-2012, 10:47 AM
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A few months ago I took the plunge and bought a Mini TT1, AC3, and four Flex TT5s. It did not take me long to fall completely in love with the system. Here's a shot I took yesterday for one of my designer clients. Kind of a bread & butter shot, but made so much easier with the instant controllability the PW system gives me. Once I got the outside/inside exposures pretty much balanced, I could play separately with the outputs of the three speedlights to get just the effect I wanted in the room. Sure, I could have done it without the PWs but it would have taken so much longer and I would probably have settled for "close enough" after dropping and raising lightstands a dozen times. And before you ask, no, this is not an HDR composite.

And yes, I wish there'd been a fire in the hearth, but it was a gas set, and you just couldn't see the wimpy flames.

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Old Sep-22-2012, 11:09 AM
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And yes, I wish there'd been a fire in the hearth, but it was a gas set, and you just couldn't see it.

Move the camera to the right, move the sofa back and or angle it, light fire, maybe reduce exposure.

Otherwise nice clean image.

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Old Sep-22-2012, 11:52 AM
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Move the camera to the right, move the sofa back and or angle it, light fire, maybe reduce exposure.
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Nope. Just a wimpy gas log set. (Original post edited) I've been known to light off crumpled up newspaper, but couldn't do it here.
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Old Sep-23-2012, 03:55 AM
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Really nice balance between outdoor and indoor light. Looks like I need to find a few jobs that will justify shelling out the bucks for that new pocket wizzard system. I'm guessing yours set you back a little north of 700.00?

I'm most impressed that although the shot looks to be taken with a wideish lens, 24mm? 35mm? the vertical lines are perfectly straight and no distortion. I see why you have a design client!
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Old Sep-23-2012, 05:39 AM
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. . . new pocket wizzard system. I'm guessing yours set you back a little north of 700.00?

I'm most impressed that although the shot looks to be taken with a wideish lens, 24mm? 35mm? the vertical lines are perfectly straight and no distortion. I see why you have a design client!
More like $1050 for the four speedlight set. I decided the proven reliability and FP HSS capabilities were worth it, and chose to go PW instead of a less pricey system like the Pixel Kings. YMMV.

And thanks for noticing the rectification. That's a pretty fundemental requirement for architectural photography. And "Lens Profile Corrections" are your friend.
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Old Sep-23-2012, 06:57 AM
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Agree 100% on the PW system. Love mine.
Old Sep-23-2012, 07:35 AM
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I was chatting with another photographer last night who has the mini/flex system. She said that when you first set everything up there's a specific sequence of connecting things and powering things on you have to do or they won't synch up and you have to turn everything off and try again. Is that true and is it a pain in the ass or not a big deal?
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Old Sep-23-2012, 07:41 AM
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I was chatting with another photographer last night who has the mini/flex system. She said that when you first set everything up there's a specific sequence of connecting things and powering things on you have to do or they won't synch up and you have to turn everything off and try again. Is that true and is it a pain in the ass or not a big deal?
True and not a big deal in the least. Receiver, light, transmitter, camera. Takes once and you're golden. I don't use the mini, rather another TT5 to transmit, but the procedure is the same.
Old Sep-23-2012, 08:49 AM
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True and not a big deal in the least. Receiver, light, transmitter, camera. Takes once and you're golden. I don't use the mini, rather another TT5 to transmit, but the procedure is the same.

And I don't know if it's that big of a deal. I just turn on "top down" from light, TT5 and Mini (on camera) and then the camera. No problems.

I will add that I shoot Canon and this is the one time when I am envious of the Nikon guys. The 580II's sometimes don't play nice with the Mini/Flex deal because of the RF interference deal. Get that sorted out and they work great.

That's a really nice image, Icebear. Amazing what some speedlights can let you do.
Old Sep-23-2012, 08:56 AM
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I was chatting with another photographer last night who has the mini/flex system. She said that when you first set everything up there's a specific sequence of connecting things and powering things on you have to do or they won't synch up and you have to turn everything off and try again. Is that true and is it a pain in the ass or not a big deal?
It becomes second nature very quickly, but I've also found it not to be a big issue if you step out of line on occasion. They still work. For instance, "the recommended" order of powering up is:
1. Speedlight
2. Flex TT5
3. Mini TT1
4. Camera
This is really intuitive and I usually try to follow the guidance, BUT . . .
many times I've powered off a speedlight to change batteries forgetting to power down (reverse order) the whole system, and everything worked fine when I powered up the speedlight again.

So, IMO, "not a big deal."
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Old Sep-23-2012, 08:59 AM
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That's a really nice image, Icebear. Amazing what some speedlights can let you do.
Thank you. Isn't that the truth.
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Old Sep-23-2012, 11:56 AM
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Be careful on the turn-on sequence. I did find that doing it wrong can mess off 100% off-camera TTL metering. TT1 on the camera (don't know why I got a TT1, should have just had extra TT5's, but that's another thread), TT5 running TTL SB-900. Shot gets wildly over-exposed (about 1.3 stops). If I do FE-L, the preflash properly meters and than the shot is correct. If I shut down and turn on flash/tt5/tt1/camera, it all works fine. Problem was repeatable across a couple of days. If I put a SB900 on top of the TT1, then things worked fine.
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Old Sep-24-2012, 01:55 PM
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i get about 5-10% of the images blown out when I use TT5s... anyone is having the same issue?
Old Sep-24-2012, 02:03 PM
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i get about 5-10% of the images blown out when I use TT5s... anyone is having the same issue?
Nope. Did 100 frames 2 weekends ago. All TT5 with multiple strobes, and on two bodies. All dead perfect exposures.
Old Sep-24-2012, 03:06 PM
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i get about 5-10% of the images blown out when I use TT5s... anyone is having the same issue?
This can happen if you don't have the speedlight set to TTL.
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Old Sep-25-2012, 05:03 PM
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I use the tt5's for wildlife with Nikon. Having the higher sync speeds alone would be worth the pw's to me.

Get job on the shot - but agree that the fireplace is the weak spot. PS one in I guess.....
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Old Sep-25-2012, 05:35 PM
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Get job on the shot - but agree that the fireplace is the weak spot. PS one in I guess.....
I disagree. Then again, I am a disagreeable old cuss.

Look at the weather and time of year outside. Would it make sense to have a fire going at this time of year? Air conditioning would be more believable.
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Old Sep-26-2012, 05:05 AM
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I disagree. Then again, I am a disagreeable old cuss.

Look at the weather and time of year outside. Would it make sense to have a fire going at this time of year? Air conditioning would be more believable.
Architectural shots often don't "make sense." If you look closely at many advertisements in magazines, you'll wonder "how can anyone live in that space?" The furniture is often crammed together, etc. It's all about creating an instant visual impression. Marketing. Bryce is right, a fire would be seasonally dumb, but I still wish I had one going. Besides, how the hell do I photoshop A/C anyway???
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