Behind the mask - Kay

Bilsen · August 14, 2014

We all wear masks od some sort but even Kay's mask doesn't hide all that gorgeous.

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6. and then, as we walked back to the car we saw this incredible field of weeds, so Kay decided to be incredible there.

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9. and lastly, a CU of that mask with a bit of mischief underneath.

D3Sshooter · August 15, 2014

Anther set , you are a busy men…

Well the first series with the shirt and the open hot pens: I can't get rid of the feeling "f**k me", maybe that is my sick mind. But that is those pictures tell me.
Is that wrong ? No absolutely not, it depends what the intend was. Bilsen, maybe you can explain.

I assume and maybe totally wrong that you wanted to create a feminine and soft sensual look. In that case I the shirt would work with one visible shoulder, tied in a nutt on the belly and having the hot pens closed-up. Well the top button could be open. It would make the picture much softer.
Secondly, you have a great model with a good figure and yet in the first set the belly is what we I see first…. Somehow my eyes fall first on the open hot pens (must be interest lol) and then I see the belly….. agreed not much of a belly ( I wish I had one like that) but still it places the wrong emphasis .
Besides that all respect for your work. And it is just my opinion for what it is worth.

The Lingerie is a much better set and does not create that sleazy feel . It is rather standard with wellknow poses. I think the would look even better with less brilliance.
Fig 8 is the only one in this set that doesn't cut it for me… It's a lovely and nice model, and it just doesn't come out that way ( especially the a.. cheeks, and the mysterious hand on the lower chest.

The last Picture is just lovely….

But overall and not considering my personal taste a nice set.

Thanks for showing

Bilsen · August 15, 2014

Thanks as always D3.

Like the "Voyeurism" of my other thread, I have been trying to introduce mini storylines into my shoots and move past just my usual Swimsuit/fashion. Sometimes it works, sometimes not so much.

It appears I screwed up yet another demented concept but here is what I was thinking (or possibly hallucinating). I had in my head two concepts: 1) the Sirens of Greek mythology who seduced sailors onto the rocks with their "charms" and 2) the fairy tales of my youth where trolls lived under bridges (rather than on the internet -

). I tried to smash these two opposing ideas together to create a bridge troll who is sexy and alluring rather than an ugly, ogre-like creature. The mask was to add a bit of mystery and hide the evil intent of the gorgeous "Siren troll".

So that's my thought process (or lack thereof). Apparently, like many John Lennon songs, I went for depth and only created obscurity.

In any event, at least now I'm getting critiqued for concepts rather than exposure and other technical stuff. I guess that's advancement.

As for the bikini in the weeds, that was a spur of the moment thing in VERY direct sunlight so we were somewhat limited in what she could do without some truly ugly shadows.

michaelglenn · August 15, 2014

D3Sshooter wrote: »

Anther set , you are a busy men…
I can't get rid of the feeling "f**k me", maybe that is my sick mind.

You dirty old man.

@Bilsen: Definitely one of your stronger sets. Your DOF is a lot more appealing for what you're trying to achieve. It's nice to see you taking some of that constructive criticism to your advantage.

#2,7,8, and 9 do it for me. Good job with this one

Also, what's your method behind your posing? Do you direct them the way you want them, or is it more about guiding them into a pose naturally? Just curious!

Bilsen · August 15, 2014

Thanks MichaelGlen.

I listen to everything even when I don't end up agreeing. In truth, I still shoot sharp backgrounds about 1/2 the time, I just don't post them here.

OL

How much direction I give totally depends on the model. How much does she know her stuff? How many shoots have we done together?? Whose concept are we shooting at the moment?

This was my 9th shoot with Kay so we already know each other pretty well. For her bikini in the creek set (first Kay thread here) she did her own basic poses and I just refined things like "weight on back leg" or "turn that hand a bit". For the "Voyeur set" and this set I gave her more direction since it was my concept (like looking off camera in the voyeur set and walk rock to rock in this set). In the weeds, she did her own stuff BUT because of the harsh, very direct sun, I was moving her literally inch by inch to avoid racoon eyes and other deficits.

D3Sshooter · August 15, 2014

See that is what I like about this forum and your way of reacting Bilsen. We can talk openly and nobody gets upset or offended. We are all open minded people, and for sure we do not need to agree. That would be boring…..

Opinions are just opinions

jonh68 · August 15, 2014

Bilsen wrote: »

Thanks as always D3.

Like the "Voyeurism" of my other thread, I have been trying to introduce mini storylines into my shoots and move past just my usual Swimsuit/fashion. Sometimes it works, sometimes not so much.

It appears I screwed up yet another demented concept but here is what I was thinking (or possibly hallucinating). I had in my head two concepts: 1) the Sirens of Greek mythology who seduced sailors onto the rocks with their "charms" and 2) the fairy tales of my youth where trolls lived under bridges (rather than on the internet - ). I tried to smash these two opposing ideas together to create a bridge troll who is sexy and alluring rather than an ugly, ogre-like creature. The mask was to add a bit of mystery and hide the evil intent of the gorgeous "Siren troll".

So that's my thought process (or lack thereof). Apparently, like many John Lennon songs, I went for depth and only created obscurity.

In any event, at least now I'm getting critiqued for concepts rather than exposure and other technical stuff. I guess that's advancement.

As for the bikini in the weeds, that was a spur of the moment thing in VERY direct sunlight so we were somewhat limited in what she could do without some truly ugly shadows.

If you were going for a sirens/fantasy feel to the shot it doesn't come across like that for me. Here is why. Like the Cyndi Sonic series it was shot like a senior portrait with natural lighting and settings. The way you shot this takes me out of the fantasy concept and it's just a girl and a mask, leaving me wonder why she is under a bridge in a sexy outfit in the middle of the day. Off camera flash would have been a big benefit or shooting at a different time of day. Reading what you are going for I just don't get that feel in this series.

Technicals, 1-3, and 5 have a mixture of dark and light backgrounds that clash. 4 you have mostly dark with just a hint of a bright background and it works.

Bryce Wilson · August 15, 2014

First thing that jumped out at me was that those bathing suit bottoms does no favors to her backside. They make it look rather clunky when it rather obvious it's not.

Bilsen · August 16, 2014

D3, I don't always agree with the C&C and I often go my own way BUT, I always appreciate when someone takes the time to comment and I do listen to everything that is said.

Jon, as I said, I'm starting to work on storylines within my shoots. I understand all your comments. Still, I consider being critiqued on concept vs. technical to be progress. Thanks.

Bryce, no sure what I can do about that but I will tell you, there is NO problem in person.

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Aleksandar Vasic · August 24, 2014

B r a v

Bilsen · August 27, 2014

Thank you Aleks.

Behind the mask - Kay

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