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TonyCooper
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I'm not a pro photographer, so I can go for interesting shots
instead of the type of shots that the parents want to buy.
Yesterday's game provided a couple showing the intensity
of the pitcher. Flawed shots, to be sure, since the focus
isn't real sharp in the first and the player behind the pitcher
distracts in the second, but keepers for an amatuer.
instead of the type of shots that the parents want to buy.
Yesterday's game provided a couple showing the intensity
of the pitcher. Flawed shots, to be sure, since the focus
isn't real sharp in the first and the player behind the pitcher
distracts in the second, but keepers for an amatuer.
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
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Now, if you really want to capture intensity - frame tighter. Intensity is in the face so that's what you want to frame in on. Instead of trying to capture the whole body - try to capture just the torso - you'll get more detail in the face which is what shows intensity. That's the part of this hobby where planning comes into play. Don't just take pictures of the player, plan the shot - depending on what you want to convey plan accordingly. If you want intensity then frame more tightly. Especially with pitchers you have ample opportunity to take the shots over and over so it's a lot easier to frame tighter than it would be for a fielding play. Spend the whole inning doing it until you get the one gem. Here's the type of final framing I'm talking about:
Keep at it Tony. Most shooters are just hobbyists. But, the principles of planning a shot instead of reacting to what happens are even more important for hobby shooting because you can afford to be patient. Keep at it!
for one and 1/500th for the other and both at 5.8 The ISO was set the previous evening for some other shots, and
I forget to check and change. Corrected a bit Lightroom, but largely uncorrectable on the skin tones.
The top shot was framed to include my grandson on first. I shoot for the whole team to provide a disk at end-of-season
for all players, but I do try include each of my two grandsons when I can. I also crop to a 6x4 for all shots for this disk
so all parents can make prints of what they want. I don't provide prints, but I crop for the parent's benefit.
I suppose, for this forum, I should re-crop to best advantage, but I haven't been. You're getting here what
the parents get.
Your comments are spot on and appreciated, though. I do absorb all comments.
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Funny you take a swipe at the pros and then post a couple of sportraits that would only be interesting to parents. Now your other thread with the play at the plate, that is an interesting shot.
An "accurate" reproduction of a scene and a good photograph are often two different things.
In my experience that is dead-on. When I shoot for enjoyment vs. sales, I am free to explore what I find interesting. I don't have to worry about coverage of the whole team - I can try different types of shots purely to benefit my own photographic interests. When I shoot for media I shoot a different way and when I shoot for print sales I shoot a different way. So, I don't take Tony's comment as a swipe at pros - he's right - when shooting for pay you're shooting to satisfy a client's demands.
A perfect example - batters at the plate. It's a staple safety shot for paid print work. Nothing less interesting to me from a photography standpoint. It's like a free throw in basketball. BORING. But a necessary evil for sales. Now, you may feel differently and so might Tony. That's why I agree with Tony's post - when you're shooting for your own enjoyment only you get to decide what is interesting and what isn't.
An "accurate" reproduction of a scene and a good photograph are often two different things.
An "accurate" reproduction of a scene and a good photograph are often two different things.
No sour grapes or a swipe intended.
It seems to me that a pro has to come away with some pro-type shots
that the type of parent who wants his kid to look like he's posing for a
baseball card will buy, or the type of shots that you see in SI.
I like to get those shots, but I can come away with shots that are far
less professional, that show the kids awkwardly ducking a pitch, or
swinging three feet below the pitch and still have a good series.
I can come away with this shot and add it to the season disk, but
I'm not sure a pro would go for the shot.
(The cup-adjustment is being done by one of my grandsons)
The team had a pizza party after the season opening exhibition game
and I was asked to provide a slide show. I went to each kid in the dugout
and asked them to make faces and act goofy. I included some regular shots,
but the goofy shots were the best received.
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scoring two runs in the last at-bat) and got to thinking about this.
My mistake was using the word "interesting". I did not mean that pro
shots are not interesting; I meant that I can go for the more off-beat
shots.
I apologize for the word choice.
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I get thousands of those shots and I'll enjoy viewing them and sharing them with a select audience. But generally I won't publish anything for sale that is unflattering or ego bursting.
I'd be nervous to publish or display that cup adjustment photo, whether shooting professionally or not! People are crazy.
An "accurate" reproduction of a scene and a good photograph are often two different things.
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of the pitcher. Flawed shots, to be sure, since the focus
isn't real sharp in the first and the player behind the pitcher
distracts in the second, but keepers for an amateur."
I agree with your assessment and there's no doubt they are true refrigerator snap shots.
Question: Are you working toward a setup that will get you the type images you are shooting for?
Any image is a great image if the person taking it is happy with it. If you ask for critique on snap shots watch out, some photogs can be brutal..lol
Happy shooting,
Joe
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Sigh.
Also, "quote" starts a quote and "/quote" closes the quote. In square braces, of course.
An "accurate" reproduction of a scene and a good photograph are often two different things.
There are forums and websites strictly for sports and sports professionals but I have always felt this was a great Launchpad/starting point for those wanting to improve and learn without being talked down too..
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Hey Joel,
Ive noticed that you are a sportshooter member.
I recently decided to join but was told that I need a sponsors??? I contacted someone that I barely knew on sportshooter but he asked me to show him 10 pictures before he agreed to sponsor me
Also I wanted to know if you have shot baseball and what equipment is needed?
I shoot for a local paper thevistapress.com and for myslef bountyphotographie.com both on the week-end and after work :}}}
I shoot little league baseball with Canon 7 D and 70-200 2.8 Canon lens .
i would like to shoot a pro team like the Padres (San Diego) but before I do Im wondering if I must rent a bigger lens like 600 mm or my 70-200 will do?
Thanks
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