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Old Dec-01-2007, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by armankeser
I hope youll understand now
The background colour "outside the boxes" has changed.

<img src="http://kkrc.smugmug.com/photos/227446086-L.jpg" border="0" alt="" />
Are you referring to the color near the top? And that it doesn't match your header?

Yes, that's due to a long-standing bug with this theme, the theme background was coded incorrectly. We can fix you up with a transparent header, then it'll match just fine, would you like that?
Old Dec-01-2007, 12:08 PM
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Are you referring to the color near the top? And that it doesn't match your header?

Yes, that's due to a long-standing bug with this theme, the theme background was coded incorrectly. We can fix you up with a transparent header, then it'll match just fine, would you like that?
hehe yeah sure, why not
Old Dec-01-2007, 12:21 PM
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hehe yeah sure, why not
No problem - upload the individual elements of that header artwork to a separate gallery on your site, then email me at the help desk, ATTN: Andy, and I'll do it for you no problem :)
Old Dec-01-2007, 05:06 PM
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LaurieLA is offline LaurieLA
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Are there any themes that we KNOW will never become stretchy?
Since as a standard user I can't turn off stretchy, I'd like to be able to select at least one theme that I KNOW is never going to be changed in the future to be stretchy. I'd appreciate a theme something like 'Smugmug Classic 3x5'.
Of course, the best solution would be to be able to turn stretchy on or off for each gallery.

[Optional reading: Why do I care?
I have a few galleries that rely on the old 3x5 thumbnail format as part of the "storytelling" collage. (eg see image http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/39209...5445#227578951)
(Yes, I know these galleries don't look good in any style but smugmug, but they are fun.)

Also to avoid the cluttered look of mixed portrait and landscape thumbnails scattered on the page, I've spent time arranging galleries so that thumbnails in a particular row or column are consistently one orientation. (love that zoom thumbnail !!!!) In the stretchy future, I'll just make all the thumbs in a gallery have the same orientation (or squares) , but I don't really want to change all the old galleries.]

Stretchy looks great for my other galleries!

Thanks for listening.
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Old Dec-02-2007, 12:49 PM
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Since as a standard user I can't turn off stretchy, I'd like to be able to select at least one theme that I KNOW is never going to be changed in the future to be stretchy. I'd appreciate a theme something like 'Smugmug Classic 3x5'.
Of course, the best solution would be to be able to turn stretchy on or off for each gallery.

[Optional reading: Why do I care?
I have a few galleries that rely on the old 3x5 thumbnail format as part of the "storytelling" collage. (eg see image http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/39209...5445#227578951)
(Yes, I know these galleries don't look good in any style but smugmug, but they are fun.)

Also to avoid the cluttered look of mixed portrait and landscape thumbnails scattered on the page, I've spent time arranging galleries so that thumbnails in a particular row or column are consistently one orientation. (love that zoom thumbnail !!!!) In the stretchy future, I'll just make all the thumbs in a gallery have the same orientation (or squares) , but I don't really want to change all the old galleries.]

Stretchy looks great for my other galleries!

Thanks for listening.
Laurie
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Our intent was to stretch them all - but some are harder than others. Earth would be stretched. Interesting use of the gallery thumbs! We'll talk about this internally.
Old Dec-02-2007, 05:54 PM
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haha i dont know how to explaine...
Is the same in all pages. In the "box" where you see the small and large size of the pictures, the background colour there is right. But outside the box, it wasnt like that before. It was the same colour around the whole page and all pages in my website. Know it's more like darkgreen or something..

I dont know how to upload a picture so i can explaine better :P
Tonight, I made you a new transparent banner, and uploaded it to your site: http://kkrc.smugmug.com

It'll work now with any theme and blend in nicely :)

I've emailed you the psd, and the png files.

Old Dec-03-2007, 07:42 AM
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Tonight, I made you a new transparent banner, and uploaded it to your site: http://kkrc.smugmug.com

It'll work now with any theme and blend in nicely :)

I've emailed you the psd, and the png files.

THANK YOU!!
Old Dec-03-2007, 08:37 AM
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OK I haven't seen a solution to this on the thread, or perhaps I didn't recognize it as a solution.

When viewing landscape photos, stretchy is gorgeous:





But when viewing portrait oriented photos, stretchy pushes the photo all the way to the left, next to the thumbnails...why doesn't it center the photo? It just looks odd with all that space on the rt hand side:


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Old Dec-03-2007, 08:41 AM
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OK I haven't seen a solution to this on the thread, or perhaps I didn't recognize it as a solution.

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It's different based on theme.... and if you customize, you can have it centered as well.
Old Dec-03-2007, 08:43 AM
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But when viewing portrait oriented photos, stretchy pushes the photo all the way to the left, next to the thumbnails...why doesn't it center the photo? It just looks odd with all that space on the rt hand side:
I use this CSS to center the photos, fixes the portrait-oriented photos:
Code:
/* center photos (vertically oriented photos were left aligned, more to center */
#ajaxPhotoBox {text-align: center;}
You would need a power or pro account to add this, don't know what you're currently using.

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Old Dec-03-2007, 08:49 AM
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I use this CSS to center the photos, fixes the portrait-oriented photos:
Code:
/* center photos (vertically oriented photos were left aligned, more to center */
#ajaxPhotoBox {text-align: center;}
You would need a power or pro account to add this, don't know what you're currently using.

--- Denise
Power, thanks..does this align all photos or do you just notice on portrait oriented?
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Old Dec-03-2007, 08:52 AM
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Power, thanks..does this align all photos or do you just notice on portrait oriented?
I believe it aligns them all, it's just more noticeable on the portrait-oriented photos. You can look at any of my galleries if you want to see it in action - here's an example http://www.denisegoldberg.com/gallery/3567671#222791094

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Old Dec-03-2007, 08:54 AM
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Hmm, that did not seem to work.....
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Old Dec-03-2007, 09:05 AM
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Hmm, that did not seem to work.....
There's apparently something in the gradient gray theme that is stopping this from working. This was a problem for someone else last week, and Allen indicated what needs to be disabled / removed from gradient gray theme to make it work. He did indicate that removing the code could cause sizing problems.

See this thread, Allen's answer is the 8th post:
http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=77769

I tested it in Firefox and removing the code (that Allen indicated) from the theme does center your portrait-oriented shots.

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Old Dec-03-2007, 09:41 AM
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There's apparently something in the gradient gray theme that is stopping this from working. This was a problem for someone else last week, and Allen indicated what needs to be disabled / removed from gradient gray theme to make it work. He did indicate that removing the code could cause sizing problems.

See this thread, Allen's answer is the 8th post:
http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=77769

I tested it in Firefox and removing the code (that Allen indicated) from the theme does center your portrait-oriented shots.

--- Denise

Thanks Denise, but I don't have that bit of code in my CSS.

Oddly, it seems that IE6 displays the portrait photos perfectly centered, but Firefox seems to ignore the command. Anyone know how to do this for Firefox?
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Old Dec-03-2007, 09:45 AM
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LaurieLA is offline LaurieLA
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Our intent was to stretch them all - but some are harder than others. Earth would be stretched. Interesting use of the gallery thumbs! We'll talk about this internally.
I am really disappointed to hear that the intent was to stretch all the galleries.
With a Standard account, the style 'smugmug' with fixed 3 columns and 5 (or 3) rows is the best (almost only) way I know in Smugmug to organize visual content and presentation within a gallery.

Perhaps some people see the thumbnails in the 'smugmug' style as only an index for the photo on the right. I see the style as a graphic layout. Knowing how many thumbnails per page and row often lets me arrange a limited set of images into something more than just a record of an event. I am aware that the layout may be affected by the browser settings, but this is all I've got to work with in smugmug.

I rely on a fixed set of photos per row, column and page for several purposes:

-Display collages from one or many photos
-Draw attention to or de-emphasize certain photos by their known location on the 'page' (especially the first photo on each page).
-Create negative space in a row or column to emphasize a photo or group of photos.
-Set a coherent gallery look (all the thumbnails in a row or column have consistent ratios) while allowing for different thumbnail ratios within a gallery. (That jumbled, random negative space is really confusing when the thumbnail ratios are different, but some photos really need a particular ratio different than others in the gallery.)
-Keep related photos in the same row or column.
-Group images into topic sets (pages) that are too small for a new gallery.
-Improve 'storytelling' by knowing where the columns and pages are going to break (to create tension or change topic).

I expect that many Smugmug customers are using these techniques, even if unconsciously.

Here are some demonstration galleries that illustrate my points. My comments are in the first few captions of each gallery.
Winter Skies (collage):
www.smugmug.com/gallery/3930340
Beach Bocce Madness I (collage, title page):
www.smugmug.com/gallery/3920907
Burney Falls Photo Op (negative space, column of related images)
www.smugmug.com/gallery/3930396
Night Glows, Fright Grows (Emphasize photo using image location on page)
www.smugmug.com/gallery/3930192
First snow at Lassen (consistent thumbnails)
www.smugmug.com/gallery/3930127
Ol' Swimmin' Hole (topic breaks at page, column)
www.smugmug.com/gallery/3930448

Frankly, what I'd really like is the ability to set the (perhaps maximum?) number of rows and columns per 'smugmug' style page. Or maybe there's a new style 'scrapbook' with a variety of theme-like templates with specific number of images per page, depending on the template. Combine this with current feature request "Specify a default starting gallery style for a gallery" and I'm a happy camper.

I do like the new stretchy themes -- especially for my reference library.
Unfortunately, if I have ONLY stretchy themes, then I've lost an important organizational and storytelling tool.


Thanks for listening,
Laurie
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Old Dec-03-2007, 09:51 AM
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Thanks Denise, but I don't have that bit of code in my CSS.

Oddly, it seems that IE6 displays the portrait photos perfectly centered, but Firefox seems to ignore the command. Anyone know how to do this for Firefox?
It's not in your CSS, it's in the CSS for the theme.

When I went in to Firefox to play with it, I requested Edit CSS from the web dev toolbar (if you don't have it installed already, you can download it from http://chrispederick.com/work/web-developer/). I looked at your CSS, and then I looked at the CSS for the theme (next tab to the right from your CSS after requesting edit CSS). That's where I found the code. And if I removed it from there the photos centered.

Problem is, if you want to keep that theme...

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Old Dec-03-2007, 09:58 AM
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It's not in your CSS, it's in the CSS for the theme.

When I went in to Firefox to play with it, I requested Edit CSS from the web dev toolbar (if you don't have it installed already, you can download it from http://chrispederick.com/work/web-developer/). I looked at your CSS, and then I looked at the CSS for the theme (next tab to the right from your CSS after requesting edit CSS). That's where I found the code. And if I removed it from there the photos centered.

Problem is, if you want to keep that theme...

--- Denise
ah, wasn't thinking about webdev...was just looking in the control panel. This is just a standard theme, havent done any theme customization due to time, plus with the stretchy thing, I had to abandon my prefered Carbonite....

Just tried it with a different theme, and it works! Must be something wrong with Gradient Grey...guess I will go for Smugmug Gradient and go find the codes to get rid of the green text.....
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Old Dec-03-2007, 03:10 PM
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Linking to a specific page in a gallery is now a moving target. I don't see how to send a link to a page (with a specific range of images) and guarantee that the recipient will see the same page.

Is there a way around this? So far I've had to link the images individually.
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Old Dec-03-2007, 03:22 PM
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Linking to a specific page in a gallery is now a moving target. I don't see how to send a link to a page (with a specific range of images) and guarantee that the recipient will see the same page.

Is there a way around this? So far I've had to link the images individually.
Try clicking the first photo on the page until the gallery and photo number
show in the link and use that link to send.
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