Lurk all you'd like, but why not register and post some pics? Registering also makes it easier to find the good stuff. Need help?

Go Back   Digital Grin Photography Forum > Shots > Holy Macro
Dgrinner
Password
Register FAQ Shooters Calendar Reviews Tutorials Gallery Books Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old Jan-04-2007, 06:59 PM   #1
Andy
SmugMug COO & House Pro
 
Andy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: New York City
Posts: 52,623
Brian Valentine - SmugMug Artist-in-Residence

Dgrin's Lord Veterinari, Brian Valentine, is one of SmugMug's Artists-in-Residence.

Brian is an amazing Macro shooter. We're lucky to have him here! Here in this thread is where we'll announce new discussions, the details on the monthly roundtable, and more.

Stay tuned...

Brian's Macro Learning Series

Macro Exercises #1 DOF, Aperture and diffraction

Macro Exercises #2 FOCUSING

Macro Exercises #3 FOCUS STACKING

Macro Exercises #4 Lighting

Definition of MACRO - What's a Macro?

Some earlier references and resources:

Macrophotography Tips & Links

More Macro Tips & Links

Yet more!
__________________
Andy

Moon River PhotographyTwitterFacebook
Andy is offline  
Old Jan-12-2007, 12:28 AM   #2
Ephemeral
Big grins
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 34
Wel done Havelock. :)
Ephemeral is offline  
Old Jan-12-2007, 12:54 AM   #3
Lord Vetinari
Smugbug
 
Lord Vetinari's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,034
Thanks - I think
Brian V.
Lord Vetinari is offline  
Old Jan-12-2007, 01:12 AM   #4
BigAl
Major grins
 
BigAl's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: South Africa
Posts: 2,062
Fame at last
__________________
Birds
Bugs
Spiders
Flowers
BigAl is offline  
Old Jan-12-2007, 01:58 AM   #5
Awais Yaqub
One Inspired soul
 
Awais Yaqub's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Pakistan /Islamabad
Posts: 9,803
Ooo wow what a great photographers
__________________
My Website | Twitter
Thine is the beauty of light; mine is the song of fire. Thy beauty exalts the heart; my song inspires the soul iqbal
Awais Yaqub is offline  
Old Jan-12-2007, 02:04 AM   #6
Skippy
Forensic Wannabe
 
Skippy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Geelong Victoria Australia
Posts: 12,069
Talking

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Vetinari
Thanks - I think
Brian V.
Well we keep telling you how good you are ya duffa
Congratulations Brian, you are indeed an incrediably amazing Macro Photographer, who is always willing to share your knowledge with the rest of us and I for one thank you for it hooray for you ..... Skippy
__________________
.
Skippy (Australia) - Moderator of "HOLY MACRO" and "OTHER COOL SHOTS"

ALBUM http://ozzieskip.smugmug.com/

Everyone has the right to be stupid, but some people just abuse the privilege
Skippy is offline  
Old Jan-12-2007, 05:09 AM   #7
andymillson
Major grins
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 136
Congrats Brian, well deserved!
__________________
A Brit among the HAWKEYES

Canon 5D
Canon 24-105L IS USM
Sigma 17-35 f/2.8-4 EX DG HSM
Sigma 70-200 f/2.8 EX DG HSM
Sigma 150mm f/2.8 EX DG HSM
Bigma 50-500 f/4-6.3 EX DG HSM
My Galleries
andymillson is offline  
Old Jan-12-2007, 05:53 AM   #8
DavidTO
1/f
 
DavidTO's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Thousand Oaks, CA
Posts: 16,042
And we learn his full name!

Fantastic.
DavidTO is online now  
Old Jan-12-2007, 06:30 AM   #9
wxwax
Immoderator
 
wxwax's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 15,443
We need an insect smilie for Lord V.
__________________
Sid.
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
http://www.mcneel.com/users/jb/foghorn/ill_shut_up.au
wxwax is offline  
Old Jan-12-2007, 06:56 AM   #10
Lord Vetinari
Smugbug
 
Lord Vetinari's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,034
Thanks everyone :)
Whilst I'm finding out from Andy what's entailed in this function, I'd be grateful for any ideas from you macrophotographers out there what you'd like to see me do here on a regular basis.

Brian V.
Lord Vetinari is offline  
Old Jan-12-2007, 07:18 AM   #11
wxwax
Immoderator
 
wxwax's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 15,443
The most common problems I see with less-than-perfect marcos are:

Depth of field (usually too shallow)
Lighting
Composition
Backgrounds
__________________
Sid.
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
http://www.mcneel.com/users/jb/foghorn/ill_shut_up.au
wxwax is offline  
Old Jan-12-2007, 11:22 AM   #12
andymillson
Major grins
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 136
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Vetinari
Thanks everyone :)
Whilst I'm finding out from Andy what's entailed in this function, I'd be grateful for any ideas from you macrophotographers out there what you'd like to see me do here on a regular basis.

Brian V.
How do you keep those darn bugs still enough to take a couple of shots so you can focus stack them?!

I have had no luck with that side of things, they always move between shots
__________________
A Brit among the HAWKEYES

Canon 5D
Canon 24-105L IS USM
Sigma 17-35 f/2.8-4 EX DG HSM
Sigma 70-200 f/2.8 EX DG HSM
Sigma 150mm f/2.8 EX DG HSM
Bigma 50-500 f/4-6.3 EX DG HSM
My Galleries
andymillson is offline  
Old Jan-12-2007, 12:29 PM   #13
Lord Vetinari
Smugbug
 
Lord Vetinari's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,034
Quote:
Originally Posted by wxwax
The most common problems I see with less-than-perfect marcos are:

Depth of field (usually too shallow)
Lighting
Composition
Backgrounds
Thanks for the ideas Sid - will see what we can do- mind you I'm still fighting with most of them :)
Brian V.
Lord Vetinari is offline  
Old Jan-12-2007, 12:42 PM   #14
Lord Vetinari
Smugbug
 
Lord Vetinari's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,034
Quote:
Originally Posted by andymillson
How do you keep those darn bugs still enough to take a couple of shots so you can focus stack them?!

I have had no luck with that side of things, they always move between shots
Agree can be difficult and is more often than not, luck. I normally try to get a good first shot- eyes in focus etc and then try to do another one or two shots fairly quickly after. Sometimes after getting the camera in reasonable focus distance on the bug, I just watch it through the viewfinder to see what it's doing rather than taking a pic- you can then often see them settle down and know it's then a good time to try a stack.
All this of course depends on the bug and what it's doing when you spot it. Bugs sunbathing are normally good for trying a stack but obviously if they are actively hunting food or cleaning themselves then you don't stand a chance. Oddly mating bugs are often good for stack shots.
If you find in the stacked shot that the bug moved a feeler or a leg so there are ghosts in it, you can often clone these out in PS or go back to the original shot with the item in sharp focus and do a manual cut and paste job with it.
One big advantage of at least trying to get a focus stack is that you will normally at least get one pic with the focus exactly where you want it.- Sort of manual version of focus bracketing.

Brian V.
Lord Vetinari is offline  
Old Jan-12-2007, 01:28 PM   #15
wxwax
Immoderator
 
wxwax's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 15,443
Just explaining your focus stacking technique would make a great discussion.
__________________
Sid.
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
http://www.mcneel.com/users/jb/foghorn/ill_shut_up.au
wxwax is offline  
Old Jan-12-2007, 04:04 PM   #16
tmlphoto
Looking for sweet light!
 
tmlphoto's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Valdosta, GA USA
Posts: 1,443
Congrats Brian. Thanks for sharing your photographs and your knowledge with us.
__________________
Thomas

TML Photography
tmlphoto.com
tmlphoto is offline  
Old Jan-12-2007, 06:53 PM   #17
pathfinder
Drive By Digital Shooter
 
pathfinder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: western Indiana
Posts: 11,629
Congratulations, Brian.

We are all looking forward to learning from your expertise!!

Your shots are always outstanding
__________________
Pathfinder

Moderator of the Technique Forum and the Finishing School on Dgrin

www.pathfinder.smugmug.com
pathfinder is offline  
Old Jan-13-2007, 04:03 AM   #18
Lord Vetinari
Smugbug
 
Lord Vetinari's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,034
Quote:
Originally Posted by wxwax
Just explaining your focus stacking technique would make a great discussion.
Quick focus stacking tutorial.

One of the major problems in macrophotography is lack of DOF. This can be partially overcome by using small apertures but this comes at a price. Shooting at apertures smaller than about F11 at 1:1 magnification causes diffraction softening of the image resulting in good DOF but loss of detail in the shot.
One way to overcome this is to use focus stacking of a series of shots taken of the subject from the same point of view (POV) but at different focus depths and then use software to combine the "in focus" parts of the different images.
The software I use is freeware and is the combineZ series. The latest version combinezm is available here
http://www.hadleyweb.pwp.blueyonder....al/Install.htm

This latest version will handle the High res jpg picture size from a canon 400D (ie 10mpx)

I normally take the shots whilst handholding the camera but often either I'm resting the lens on something or I'm leaning on something- when using this method I focus on the nearest part of the subject take a pic but mentally note where the next nearest OOF part of the image is- I then physically move the camera till that part of the image is in focus and take the next shot. This process is repeated until you have covered the required depth. I normally take betwen 2 and about 6 shots like this.
The other method is to use a tripod and either use a macro slider to focus or just use the focus ring to focus on the next slice. This is more reliable as whilst the software is very good at re-aligning pics in the sequence, it will not correct any rotational errors in the shots.
The technique does take a while to master but it's worth persevering.

Below is a quick slightly trivial example I did this morning of a clothers peg.
I took five shots for the stack but have only included the first shot, last shot and final stacked image. The shots were taken at F11 with my 300D and 105mm EX macro lens and ETTL flash.

Brian V.

camera flash setup




First Image in stack



Last Image in stack



Stacked Image

Lord Vetinari is offline  
Old Jan-13-2007, 05:16 AM   #19
GraphyFotoz
Have Camera will travel
 
GraphyFotoz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 2,219
Oh hail KING MACRO!

Your Da Man for Macro Brian....lots to learn from you!
Congrads on the fame!
Can I get your autograph?
__________________
*****************************************
Canon Powershot SX20 IS
Lowepro Adventura 140
Lowepro Slingshot 300 AW

It's not the camera that makes the photo it's person behind it!

See my work
http://graphyfotoz.smugmug.com/
New on Myspace
http://www.myspace.com/graphyfotoz
GraphyFotoz is offline  
Old Jan-17-2007, 03:34 AM   #20
Dalantech
No cropping zone...
 
Dalantech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,518
Congrats Brian!
__________________
My SmugMug Gallery

Looking for tips on macro photography? Check out my Blog: No Cropping Zone.
Dalantech is offline  
Closed Thread

Tell The World!

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -8.   It's 09:16 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.