Assignment #15: Panning blur

NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
edited July 15, 2008 in Assignments
Well, I think we run enough stairs to feel charhged for the next assignment.

This new assignment is going to be a bit more technical than the majority of the previous ones.

You need to get the picture of a moving subject in a way that the subject preferably stays as sharp as possible, while the background would naturally blur.

Pedestrians, bicilysts, cars - I'm sure you can find something moving around you. Remember that the primary object needs to stay sharp, or, at least, look sharper than the background.

As always: fresh pictures only. Definitely no PS blur.:deal
For the rest of the basic rules and index please check out this sticky.

Let's pan'n'blur!
"May the f/stop be with you!"
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  • Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited November 18, 2006
    This is my 1.st attempt with this camera.
    Before I have done it but the photo is not good for here as it is not a fresh one.
    It was shot in Vietnam during the hush hour and no filter, no CS2 no tricks. :D
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    These are some shots I took this morning.
    There was much light as the weather is/was very nice.
    But today I have photos with one trick: NDF and CPF
    The speed was too slow...
    Aperture: f/9.0 ISO: 200 Focal Length: 38mm (guess: 39mm in 35mm) Exposure Time: 0.05s (1/20) Flash: Flash did not fire, compulsory flash mode Exposure Program: Shutter priority
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    All the best ! ... António Correia - Facebook
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited November 18, 2006
    Antonio,
    Thanks for spearheading this one for us! thumb.gif
    It's a tough one, ain't it? mwink.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • SwartzySwartzy Registered Users Posts: 3,293 Major grins
    edited November 18, 2006
    Yea baby!
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    Swartzy:
    NAPP Member | Canon Shooter
    Weddings/Portraits and anything else that catches my eye.
    www.daveswartz.com
    Model Mayhem site http://www.modelmayhem.com/686552
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited November 18, 2006
    David,
    Swartzy wrote:
    three pics
    Are those all fresh??? mwink.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • SwartzySwartzy Registered Users Posts: 3,293 Major grins
    edited November 18, 2006
    Uh OHHH
    I goofed.....eeeek! Got so excited for motion blur shots I went and grabbed them....ok.....going for fresh stuff bowdown.gif...they are kind of cool though, don't ya think?
    Swartzy:
    NAPP Member | Canon Shooter
    Weddings/Portraits and anything else that catches my eye.
    www.daveswartz.com
    Model Mayhem site http://www.modelmayhem.com/686552
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited November 18, 2006
    These are cool
    Swartzy wrote:
    I goofed.....eeeek! Got so excited for motion blur shots I went and grabbed them....ok.....going for fresh stuff bowdown.gif...they are kind of cool though, don't ya think?

    I agree, I simply seemed to remember one or two being posted quite some time ago, hence my questionmwink.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited November 19, 2006
    I shot some 300 photos to get these.
    Some, many, I through them away.
    I do know it's not very good.
    There are more in my site in here or, later in here.
    I just post here 6 of them. The advantage of your assignments is that they make us to go on the field, try and try, and read, investigate.
    Well, this is the best so far. ne_nau.gif
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    All the best ! ... António Correia - Facebook
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited November 19, 2006
    Antonio,
    The advantage of your assignments is that they make us to go on the field, try and try, and read, investigate.

    That's exactly the idea:-)deal.gifthumb.gif:Dclap.gif

    Thanks for going out and trying! thumb.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited November 19, 2006
    Nikolai wrote:
    That's exactly the idea:-)deal.gifthumb.gif:Dclap.gif

    Thanks for going out and trying! thumb.gif

    My pleasure ! clap.gifclapclap.gifthumbthumb.gifthumb
    All the best ! ... António Correia - Facebook
  • Manfr3dManfr3d Registered Users Posts: 2,008 Major grins
    edited November 19, 2006
    Beautiful pictures, here's mine:

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    “To consult the rules of composition before making a picture is a little like consulting the law of gravitation before going for a walk.”
    ― Edward Weston
  • anwmn1anwmn1 Registered Users Posts: 3,469 Major grins
    edited November 19, 2006
    Well I have missed a few assignments but just happened to be at the boat drags yesterday.

    How is this?
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    Aaron
    "The Journey of life is as much in oneself as the roads one travels"


    Aaron Newman

    Website:www.CapturingLightandEmotion.com
    Facebook: Capturing Light and Emotion
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited November 19, 2006
    Manfr3d,
    Manfr3d wrote:
    Beautiful pictures, here's mine:

    That's pretty darn cool! Considering how muich the b/g is panned... Very nice!thumb.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited November 19, 2006
    Aaron,
    anwmn1 wrote:
    Well I have missed a few assignments but just happened to be at the boat drags yesterday.

    How is this?
    Aaron

    It's a nice shot, but... I don't see any trace of panning and/or b/g blur..headscratch.gifne_nau.gifrolleyes1.gifmwink.gifdeal.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • LiquidAirLiquidAir Registered Users Posts: 1,751 Major grins
    edited November 21, 2006
    Here's one. Getting close with a wide angle lens really exaggerates the effect. 35mm 1/5 at f/4.
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    While I was playing with motion blur, here is another shot I got:
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  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited November 22, 2006
    L.a.,
    LiquidAir wrote:
    Here's one. Getting close with a wide angle lens really exaggerates the effect. 35mm 1/5 at f/4.
    While I was playing with motion blur, here is another shot I got:

    Interesting...
    Thanks for the entries! thumb.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited November 22, 2006
    I shot this picture today in the late afternoon when the sun was already gone.
    I still do not like it very much. I have to try again and I hope I will with the same person at the same time and location.
    I don't have time to make some considerations on this photo and about the others I shot on Saturday.
    I hope to be able to do so late in the evening.
    Thank you for watching. thumb.gif

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    All the best ! ... António Correia - Facebook
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited November 22, 2006
    Antonio,
    I shot this picture today in the late afternoon when the sun was already gone...

    THis assignment is a tough one technically. Don't despair. The more you try it, the more benefitial it'll be for you.
    Practice makes perfect:-)thumb.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited November 22, 2006
    Nikolai wrote:
    THis assignment is a tough one technically. Don't despair. The more you try it, the more benefitial it'll be for you.
    Practice makes perfect:-)thumb.gif
    Nikolai,
    I have been thinking that perhaps you should give some kind of tips, or/and ask the photographers to do so, otherwise these assignments are no more than repositories of photos under a theme. Just an opinion. OK ? ne_nau.gif

    At the 1.st set of pictures I was using the 16-35 and the cars were pretty close to me: about 4 to 5 meters.

    The cars were driving slowly but fast enough to fill the viewfinder in a while difficulting the job.

    I should be shooting under another angle to get better/acceptable results or in a different position looking at the car as the speed changes with the angle towards the camera, even it travels at constant speed.

    On the runner the same problem happened to me.
    But I was using the 24-70 instead and the speed involved is quite different. I had only the opportunity to make some 15 shots.
    Very few.

    In both series I have been using the flash in Slow Syncronization to make a blur in the object.

    The focus in the camera was in AI Servo, 200 ISO (I like 200 ISO don't know why :D).

    I know that shooting an object 25 meters away with a 100 mm or 200 mm is easier than what I am doing. If the object is not coming to us but perpendicular to the axis of the lens.

    The question here is to keep the axis of the lens aligned with the object.
    This has been often, too often, my problem.
    While the camera shoots, I realize that my central point of focus is not on the object anymore but at the back of it, because I concentrate on the composition (?).
    Wrong, because I want the object sharp and still, quiet.

    I must concentrate on the central point. Period.

    And shoot away.

    Have to try. I must. I want. I'll do it tomorrow.

    No. I was writing this lines and I decided to shoot NOW.

    This experience - it doesn't matter colour temperature, etc - proves what I was saying before about the axis.

    My hand is still in relation to the camera and - in spite of the low speed - I succeed 1 shot in 8 concentrating on the relative position.

    And how about this triple motion blur with reverted lens hood (!) ?
    :D
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    All the best ! ... António Correia - Facebook
  • Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited November 22, 2006
    More experiments ( 6 !! ... )
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    All the best ! ... António Correia - Facebook
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited November 22, 2006
    Antonio,
    You've made very valid points, and that's exactly what I wanted to happen - a person realizing there is something wrong and finding out the way to fix it. I'm positive that now you remember your own findings MUCH better compared to a possible bunch of tips I could provide right off the bat. Now not only you know what works (your last images are pretty good), you also know what does not.

    You see, I'm an old school guy. In my time the way they taught swimming was to throw a kid in a deep place and let him be. Most swam out:-).
    These assigments are set kinda the same way. Theme is set and then off you go. It's like the life itself - no boundaries, but no support line either.

    As I said - your last set is very good! thumb.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • douglasdouglas Registered Users Posts: 696 Major grins
    edited November 24, 2006
    Big Red Truck
    Big Red Truck f4.5 @ 1/20 with xti and nifty fifty

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    Best regards,
    douglas
  • Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited November 24, 2006
    I could not shoot the guy running as it was raining heavily.
    After dinner I went for the pictures to the exposition in Lisbon next month.
    No rain, camera in the boot of the car as usual.
    Here are some shots, successful ones I think.
    I used the 70-200 f/2.8 L USM.
    May be the colour correction is not that good ... This is the best I can do so far.
    I decided this time to post part of the exif for a better understanding of the picture. I got these from a session of 110 photos.
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    Aperture: f/3.2 ISO: 1600 Focal Length: 70mm (guess: 71mm in 35mm) Exposure Time: 0.0333s (1/30) Flash: Flash did not fire, compulsory flash mode Exposure Program: Aperture priority Exposure Bias: 0 ExposureMode: 0 White Balance: auto
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    Aperture: f/3.2 ISO: 1600 Focal Length: 70mm (guess: 71mm in 35mm) Exposure Time: 0.0333s (1/30) Flash: Flash did not fire, compulsory flash mode Exposure Program: Aperture priority Exposure Bias: 0 ExposureMode: 0 White Balance: auto

    More here for now and latter here
    All the best ! ... António Correia - Facebook
  • douglasdouglas Registered Users Posts: 696 Major grins
    edited November 24, 2006
    Hey Antonio I notice you sometimes put a "guess" in 35mm FOV. The crop factor for Canon 20D is 1.6 so you can just multiply your lenses focal length by 1.6 to get 35mm equivalent. For example if 70mm is in the exif of your 20D then 70 x 1.6 = 112mm in 35mm format.
    Best regards,
    douglas
  • Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited November 24, 2006
    douglas wrote:
    Hey Swartzy I notice you sometimes put a "guess" in 35mm FOV. The crop factor for Canon 20D is 1.6 so you can just multiply your lenses focal length by 1.6 to get 35mm equivalent. For example if 70mm is in the exif of your 20D then 70 x 1.6 = 112mm in 35mm format.
    Douglas, I think you are referring to me not to Swartzy. Am I wrong ?

    If it's me, what I think it is, I have to say that the EXIF is a copy of SmugMug's. ( I mean from the photo when it is in SmugMug).
    I myself never really understood that thing of guess but ...ne_nau.gif

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    You gave me the opportunity to ...
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    All the best ! ... António Correia - Facebook
  • douglasdouglas Registered Users Posts: 696 Major grins
    edited November 24, 2006
    Oops ill edit that , ya I was refering to you Antonio. I never noticed that in SmugMug exif! My next shot below @ 50mm from smugmug says 50mm guess 389 in 35mm! The Rebel xti is also 1.6 FOV which = 80mm in 35mm
    Best regards,
    douglas
  • douglasdouglas Registered Users Posts: 696 Major grins
    edited November 24, 2006
    2nd Curtain Flash Test
    I was trying out 2nd curtain flash effect with the onboard flash on my xti. Its kind of interesting it freezes the main subject but you still get light trails with slow shutter. Will be nice to play around when i get a better flash.

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    Exif here: levels adjusted in PS
    Best regards,
    douglas
  • anwmn1anwmn1 Registered Users Posts: 3,469 Major grins
    edited November 24, 2006
    Figured it out
    Okay Nikolai- after getting whipped on my first image I went back out. Thanks for these assignments I do believe I got it this time.

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    Aaron
    "The Journey of life is as much in oneself as the roads one travels"


    Aaron Newman

    Website:www.CapturingLightandEmotion.com
    Facebook: Capturing Light and Emotion
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited November 24, 2006
    Aaron, Antonio, Douglas
    Thanks for the entries, guys!

    Aaron, this one is pretty cool - sharp subject, blurred b/g:

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    Cheers! 1drink.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • Antonio CorreiaAntonio Correia Registered Users Posts: 6,241 Major grins
    edited November 25, 2006
    I know it's late but here are some shots I did this afternoon.
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    All the best ! ... António Correia - Facebook
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited November 26, 2006
    Antonio,
    I know it's late but here are some shots I did this afternoon.
    Those are pretty cool! thumb.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
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