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Old Nov-28-2011, 02:40 PM
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PhotoCubics Fotoflash Jewelry Box - Thoughts!!!
Good afternoon y'all...

I've been surfing on YouTube for photo related stuff and I came across this

www.photocubics.com

It's supposed to make jewelry photography as easy as taking snapshots.

I checked out the website but it's somewhat down, so I contacted the company and asked for more info and pricing on this.

I'll let you guys look at it and then comment/guesstimate what this neat little box is selling for...

I must say, I really like the little box...

http://youtu.be/FZrqguOGbZM
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Old Nov-28-2011, 03:15 PM
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50 bucks.
Old Nov-28-2011, 05:36 PM
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$ 1739.00 I don't think I'll be getting one.
Old Nov-28-2011, 05:38 PM
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$ 1739.00 I don't think I'll be getting one.
Lol... I take it you also asked for info huh???
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Old Nov-28-2011, 06:16 PM
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Lol... I take it you also asked for info huh???


No, I just used google http://www.jewelryphotoshop.com/browse.php?id=10
Old Nov-28-2011, 07:42 PM
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that is ridiculous...I have seen many a tent outfit that sells for $49.99 ... does that price include cam, lens and several assistants???
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Old Nov-29-2011, 05:33 AM
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Lmfao!!! I just got stuck on the link from YouTube to the website that I never thought about that!!!
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Old Nov-29-2011, 02:03 PM
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that is ridiculous...I have seen many a tent outfit that sells for $49.99 ... does that price include cam, lens and several assistants???

I agree, It looks like a plastic cardboard box with some kind of flash built in the top of it. I could buy a Alien Bees Ring flash with cybersync's, Buy the materials to build the box & some plexiglass & have a better system for a $1000.00 less ! I'm happy with my $30.00 tent outfit I bought when Circuit City went out of buisness.

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Old Nov-30-2011, 11:39 AM
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I actually watched several videos, and have concluded the guy don't have a clue about photography. While it does look like the magic box will work pretty well, it's very limited and very expensive.

It's an $1800.00 solution to a problem that doesn't exist. Hard for me to imagine an amateur photographer with an entry level camera spending $1800.00 to photograph small jewelry pieces.

Most pros have flash, remote triggers etc. so all they need is a table set up, box, tent etc.

If this guy is in business in six months I will be amazed.

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Old Dec-03-2011, 12:14 AM
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I actually watched several videos, and have concluded the guy don't have a clue about photography. While it does look like the magic box will work pretty well, it's very limited and very expensive.

It's an $1800.00 solution to a problem that doesn't exist. Hard for me to imagine an amateur photographer with an entry level camera spending $1800.00 to photograph small jewelry pieces.

Most pros have flash, remote triggers etc. so all they need is a table set up, box, tent etc.

If this guy is in business in six months I will be amazed.

Sam
I like the idea of a quick set up, shoot and be done... but you're def. right about the price... for that much $$$ I think I rather get me a 70-200 2.8...
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Old May-10-2012, 04:45 PM
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Hi all,

I've read your comments, and I recognize immediately that it is not understood how FlashBox really works. Someone said it has a little flash on top, but no, the flash elements are built-in to deliver 360 even lighting on the subject while at once illuminating the background for a clean white background, which is not a non-existent problem as someone else said. The only other way to achieve a pure white background when photographing jewelry or products is to spend a lot of time with clipping paths. If you've ever professionally photographed jewelry or products, then you know that it takes close to 30 minutes to achieve the desired sharp crisp image against a pure white background doing it any other way other than the FlashBox way. And if you only shoot a few pieces then you can afford to spend that time. But if you photograph a lot of jewelry or products and your customer or even you require, as do all professional retailers and wholesalers online do, a pure white background, then 30 minutes or more per image gets really expensive really fast. FlashBox does a far better job in 30 seconds. Someone said I don't know photography... and while your are entitled to your opinion, wouldn't it be polite if you actually knew what and who you were talking about, but it appears that being polite and reserving your opinions until you have actual facts to base them upon is not in your arsenal of professional manners.
It was also said that the website is lacking, and yes, it really is, I do look to change that sooner than later. Well at least that was an accurate criticism, and I have no qualms about the truth of it, I really do need to make an improvement on that score. Alas I am not a professional web designer, just a professional photographer specializing in jewelry and products, and upon occasion, fashion, though these days I do very little photography due to how busy I am delivering FlashBoxes to customers who understand business arithmetic, time is money, the purchase price is not the real price, the real price of anything is the cost of ownership ie; how much it cost to operate a tool over a period of time. The smart money knows the difference because they know what R.O.I. means.

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Old May-11-2012, 11:16 AM
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Hi Steve,

Thanks for stopping by. For the record I was the one who said" I have concluded the guy don't have a clue about photography"

Some days I am grumpier than others.

You have stated that I don't know you or your photography. True, but I was not able to see any photographs on your website, there are no links, and I wasn't able to find a last name to search for a photography website.

I would be happy to look at your photography and reevaluate that statement.

I also stated: While it does look like the magic box will work pretty well, it's very limited and very expensive. I stand by this. If you are only shooting high volume small objects with a white background your box could very will help speed things up. But if you want to add some staging, ect your box won't help.

Most here are high end amateurs, semi pros, pros with a wide range of services as opposed to high volume specialists.

I can buy a lot of equipment, flashes modifiers, light boxes, reflectors, diffusers, ect for $1800.00. This gear will be far more flexible and can be used in a wide variety of photographic needs, as opposed to a limited specific need.

While the initial set up will take longer once set up will be as fast as your box.

The other thing I would have a concern about is durability. It's made of cardboard. I can't see that taking any kind of abuse ether deliberate or accidental.

I will clearly admit that I am not the best jewelery photographer, and need to spend some time on that.

As for being polite.......this is one of the most polite photographic related forum out there, and I don't recall anything being rude or over the top.

Feel free to come back any time to support your viewpoint.

Sam
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Old May-12-2012, 06:50 AM
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Links that appear to be some of Bolsen's work:

http://www.jewelryphotographystudio....rtfolio_1.html

http://www.digitalimagesstudio.com/index.html

'IF' this is the same guy, He's obviously done this for a while. He's just trying to sell a gadget so folks without the studio and expertise can get a good jewelry shot for their business.
Old May-12-2012, 07:57 AM
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Links that appear to be some of Bolsen's work:

http://www.jewelryphotographystudio....rtfolio_1.html

http://www.digitalimagesstudio.com/index.html

'IF' this is the same guy, He's obviously done this for a while. He's just trying to sell a gadget so folks without the studio and expertise can get a good jewelry shot for their business.
Tom,

I don't know how you found his last name or associated this web site with him.

If it is him he has some very nice commercial work, and I would agree he knows how to photograph.

Thanks!!

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Old May-12-2012, 11:12 AM
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Tom,

I don't know how you found his last name or associated this web site with him.

If it is him he has some very nice commercial work, and I would agree he knows how to photograph.

Thanks!!

Sam
The bottom of the photocubics.com page has "Copyright 2010-2012 by Photo Cubics Inc., and Steven Bolson", and that page and the two linked all have the same Los Angeles address listed...
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Old May-12-2012, 12:00 PM
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Tom,

I don't know how you found his last name or associated this web site with him.

If it is him he has some very nice commercial work, and I would agree he knows how to photograph.

Thanks!!

Sam

y/w. I just connected a few dots is all.

.....And really if I had a gadget I could sell, I'd be selling it!
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