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Old Apr-26-2012, 01:22 PM
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Mommajojo is offline Mommajojo OP
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HI Everyone, I am not sure if this is going in the right forum, but I'm not sure what to do. I have seen on facebook that some people (mostly children under the age of 17) have taken screen shots of my photos from smug mug and posted them on their facebook pages. Yes they are watermarked. Should I consider this free advertising or tell their parents.

Any suggestions on how to prevent this.
Old Apr-26-2012, 01:50 PM
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I (and many others) consider this advertising. Watermark your photos and have your studio name and address prominent. There's NO WAY to stop screen grabbing, unfortunately.
Old Apr-26-2012, 02:45 PM
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Mommajojo is offline Mommajojo OP
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Thank you for your input. My watermark is on their but I think I will make it a little more bolder and include my web address. Have a great day!
Old Apr-26-2012, 03:49 PM
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Should I consider this free advertising or tell their parents.

Any suggestions on how to prevent this.
Both... however do explain to the parents that you're considering this free adverts, however if they grab from you they may grab from someone not so understanding and it could land them in both criminal and civil court....

no way to really prevent it... ... ...

Good Luck.
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Old Apr-28-2012, 06:10 AM
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Both... however do explain to the parents that you're considering this free adverts, however if they grab from you they may grab from someone not so understanding and it could land them in both criminal and civil court....

no way to really prevent it... ... ...

Good Luck.

Thank you!! I was just about to politely mention to one parent when low and behold. I see another parent has actually made a photo her profile picture. I give up. I guess it's alot of free advertising for me and bigger watermarks... UGHH!!!! The watermarks kill me. I feel like they ruin the photos.

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Old Apr-28-2012, 08:57 AM
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Ummm... isn't that the point? Tastefully ruin the photos so that they'll want to buy a print whether they screen grab or steal the photo?

If they really want a photo for their Fakebook account, you could provide a few free of charge as long as they are being polite up front.
Old May-02-2012, 03:31 AM
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I (and many others) consider this advertising. Watermark your photos and have your studio name and address prominent. There's NO WAY to stop screen grabbing, unfortunately.
Andy, I went to a few Smugmug sites and was able to right click and save image as, on my site I have no right click enabled so this can't happen. Is there another way people can screen grab?
Old May-02-2012, 03:36 AM
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...on my site I have no right click enabled so this can't happen. Is there another way people can screen grab?
Right click is not protection; it's just a brief stopping point. See ORIGINALS = a gateway to free photos, & right click protection is NOT PROTECTION.
Screen shots are easy too, and you can't protect against that.

Disable access to your originals. Set the largest viewing size to a size that allows your viewers to enjoy your photos but that still allows you a level of comfort. If you're concerned about screen grabs, watermark your photos.

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Old May-02-2012, 04:05 AM
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Andy, I went to a few Smugmug sites and was able to right click and save image as, on my site I have no right click enabled so this can't happen. Is there another way people can screen grab?
SmugMug customers can choose to use watermarking, right click, etc... it's a choice. Some do, some don't.

Screengrabbing? It's child's play, take a look at Skitch or Jing both free.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screenshot
Old May-02-2012, 08:01 AM
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Pure Energy is offline Pure Energy
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I kind of wonder why no one seems to really mention that people should be adding CSS code to their SmugMug site. I wasn't happy when I found out I had to add it.

I don't know why it isn't automatically added when someone says... prevent right-clicking.

Oh well. I guess that explains why no one is purchasing photos from the first few galleries I ever posted. They already have them or they're still broke. Worse yet, they don't care or like the images.

There are, of course, other ways to get the images... so the best solutions at the moment are:
  • watermark
  • printmark
  • right-cick protection
  • CSS code (for SmugMug sites)
  • disabling sharing of photos
Old May-02-2012, 08:26 AM
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I kind of wonder why no one seems to really mention that people should be adding CSS code to their SmugMug site. I wasn't happy when I found out I had to add it.

I don't know why it isn't automatically added when someone says... prevent right-clicking.
You DO NOT have to add any CSS to stop right clicking. It's a gallery setting, toggle.
Old May-02-2012, 08:28 AM
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Pure Energy is offline Pure Energy
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Then what is the CSS code for? I understand it was to prevent stealing of images from users of Internet Explorer.
Old May-02-2012, 08:34 AM
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Then what is the CSS code for? I understand it was to prevent stealing of images from users of Internet Explorer.
What CSS Code are you referring to?
Old May-02-2012, 08:43 AM
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Pure Energy is offline Pure Energy
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Oh jeez...

I don't know what this is:

IE Print Toolbar
Put this in your headtag area if you want to disable the ie print bar when viewers see your site in IE6.

< meta http-equiv="imagetoolbar" content="no" >
< meta http-equiv="imagetoolbar" content="false" >

Still looking for the buried CSS code... which is part of why I get mad at it being buried on the SmugMug site. Maybe it's buried because by knowing the CSS code... it makes it easier for the thieves that go the extra mile.

Tried editing my post and the meta tags disappeared. Note: there should be no space after < or before >
Old May-02-2012, 08:45 AM
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Andy is offline Andy
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Oh jeez...

I don't know what this is:
IE Print Toolbar
Put this in your headtag area if you want to disable the ie print bar when viewers see your site in IE6.



You *can* do that if you like but it's not a requirement.
Old May-02-2012, 08:46 AM
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Andy is offline Andy
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Still looking for the buried CSS code... which is part of why I get mad at it being buried on the SmugMug site. Maybe it's buried because by knowing the CSS code... it makes it easier for the thieves that go the extra mile.

If someone wants an image all they need do is use a free screengrabber. That is why we offer watermarking, blocking of larger sizes if you like, disabling easy sharing, and RCP.
Old May-02-2012, 09:09 AM
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Pure Energy is offline Pure Energy
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Maybe it wasn't CSS code afterall... and it was this:

IE Print Toolbar
Put this in your headtag area if you want to disable the ie print bar when viewers see your site in IE6.

< meta http-equiv="imagetoolbar" content="no" >
< meta http-equiv="imagetoolbar" content="false" >

What exactly does that do again?




And I just found this code:

< meta name="pinterest" content="nopin" / >

How long has that been posted? That would have been nice to be notified about. Is this pointless for those that don't enable photo sharing?


Note: there should be no space: after "<" or before ">"
http://www.dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=335387&postcount=1
http://help.smugmug.com/customer/por...ng-your-images
Old May-02-2012, 09:12 AM
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Andy is offline Andy
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Hi Pure Energy, the IE Print Toolbar code was for IE6. If you follow our security help and advice, it's really not needed.

Pinterest? If you want to block "pinning" then add that.
Old May-02-2012, 09:41 AM
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Pinterest? If you want to block "pinning" then add that.
If you want to block automatic "pinning" that is. As Andy has already pointed out, there's nothing to stop someone from getting a screen shot at any time and doing anything they want with the image. If you display it on a screen, they can have it.

I hate, hate, hate seeing large watermarks on public images but I completely understand why I pro really has no choice.
Old May-02-2012, 10:25 AM
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Pure Energy is offline Pure Energy
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Hmmm... watermarks.

I wonder if people can notice a difference in sales in relation to moving from nothing to "proof" to something similar but with your name to something quite obnoxious or extremely obnoxious... much like people saying... "wow, I really started making money when I started charging more."
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