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Old Aug-09-2005, 09:53 AM   #1
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Huh new canon 5d

dpreview and fredmiranda are all agog over a possible leak on the new canon camera. i have just spoken to the guy that authored this document and after 15 mins on the phone with jim bowes from his office in the netherlands, i'm at this point willing to say that the info is legit and real.


pretty darn cool if you ask me

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Old Aug-09-2005, 09:58 AM   #2
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dpreview and fredmiranda are all agog over a possible leak on the new canon camera. i have just spoken to the guy that authored this document and after 15 mins on the phone with jim bowes from his office in the netherlands, i'm at this point willing to say that the info is legit and real.


pretty darn cool if you ask me

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Any idea on the price? Did that say it would be available in August, or October? I was confused, not being fluent in Spanish. The price will tell us if the 20D will go down at that time, too.
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Old Aug-09-2005, 09:59 AM   #3
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Cool link. If it talks about sensor size, I can't see it. Does the fact that it won't take EF-S lenses mean that the sensor's larger than the 350D's?
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Old Aug-09-2005, 10:00 AM   #4
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Any idea on the price? Did that say it would be available in August, or October? I was confused, not being fluent in Spanish. The price will tell us if the 20D will go down at that time, too.
Announced in August, sales begin middle of October, I think it says.
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Announced in August, sales begin middle of October, I think it says.


re: sensor size, it's right there on page 2 of the pdf

35.8 x 23.9mm CMOS
12.8 million effective pixels
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Old Aug-09-2005, 10:07 AM   #6
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Cool link. If it talks about sensor size, I can't see it. Does the fact that it won't take EF-S lenses mean that the sensor's larger than the 350D's?

cool. Hope it is true.

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1.0x Multiplication with EF lens fitted
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Old Aug-09-2005, 10:07 AM   #7
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Any idea on the price?
the document states €3549 euros ... factor in that canon gear in europe is about 20% more than in the u.s., and that would put it in the ~ $3,500 usd range here in the states....
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It would be nice to know a price, that would be a great camera. I have been waiting for a higher performance camera with a smaller chassis.
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It would be nice to know a price, that would be a great camera. I have been waiting for a higher performance camera with a smaller chassis.
I'd say about $3500 US.

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It would be nice to know a price, that would be a great camera. I have been waiting for a higher performance camera with a smaller chassis.
i suppose i can wait until october
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I'd say about $3500 US.

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Old Aug-09-2005, 10:13 AM   #12
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Here's the reader's digest version:

- 12.8 MP, full frame, no support for EF-S lenses

- Form factor about the same as 10D, rear control layout about the
same as 20D. Weighs a bit more than 10D.

- Rear LCD 2.5" / 230K pixels

- RGB Histogram

- Spot metering

- 9 point AF + 6 "invisible" AF points

- No built-in flash or AF-assist

- Takes new BG-E4 grip and new 430EX flash

- We don't know if the mode selection dial is in the 10D/20D style or
the 1D/1Ds "pro" style (need to press two buttons to do anything).

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Old Aug-09-2005, 10:14 AM   #13
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return email from mr bowes

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Dear Andy,

Thanks for contacting me even though it has completely stressed me out. I guess you are now way ahead of the game. I am in contact with Canon and once I find out their position I will contact you.

Thanks again, and if your ever in Amsterdam I'll take you out for a big splif.

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Old Aug-09-2005, 10:37 AM   #14
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Is this new 5D based on the sensor form the discontinued 1Ds perhaps? Sounds about the right digital size and it is full frame. That should be a really nice camera with Digic-ll and a 20D size body. Very interesting.
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Old Aug-09-2005, 10:41 AM   #15
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Full Size Sensor

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Cool link. If it talks about sensor size, I can't see it. Does the fact that it won't take EF-S lenses mean that the sensor's larger than the 350D's?
Hi Sid,
It's a full size sensor:

IMAGE SENSOR
Type: 35.8 x 23.9mm CMOS
Effective Pixels: 12.8M Approx.
Total Pixels:13.3M Approx.
Aspect Ratio:3:2
Low-Pass Filter: Built in/Fixed
Colour Filter Type: Primary Colour

LENS
Lens Mount: EF (excludes EF-S lenses)
Focal Length: 1.0x Multiplication with EF lens fitted

Pulled this directly from the PDF doc. Looks like an upgrade to the 20D and not a replacement.

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Old Aug-09-2005, 10:46 AM   #16
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> Is this new 5D based on the sensor from the discontinued 1Ds perhaps?

No, this camera is more kin to the 1Ds Mark II.

It looks like Canon is going down the path of full frame for pros and
1.6x + EF-S lenses for consumers. Nice and simple. I like it.

The leaked announcement also makes reference to a "1D Mark II N".

I bet it's another full frame camera, and the 1.3x 1D Mark II will get
phased out. It all makes perfect sense.
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Old Aug-09-2005, 11:31 AM   #17
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Very intersting but I'm not sure where does this camera fit in the current DSLR line? Is this a step up from the 20D? Kinda of comparing the EOS 3 upgrade from the film Rebel?

Looks like there is still going to be a huge gap between the 20D price range of $1,500 and this new camera of $3,500.

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Old Aug-09-2005, 12:38 PM   #18
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i sure hope it's true - nearly *half* the weight of the 1Ds Mark II and only 40grams heavier than the 20d
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Old Aug-09-2005, 12:53 PM   #19
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anyone wanna buy a 10-22
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i sure hope it's true - nearly *half* the weight of the 1Ds Mark II and only 40grams heavier than the 20d

Yeah, it looks like the perfect camera for Andy. Aside from not taking the 10-22, the best of all worlds.

Are we going to start seeing pics from an IR modded 20D?
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