new canon 5d

Andy · August 9, 2005

dpreview and fredmiranda are all agog over a possible leak on the new canon camera. i have just spoken to the guy that authored this document and after 15 mins on the phone with jim bowes from his office in the netherlands, i'm at this point willing to say that the info is legit and real.

pretty darn cool if you ask me

discuss.

DavidTO · August 9, 2005

andy wrote:

dpreview and fredmiranda are all agog over a possible leak on the new canon camera. i have just spoken to the guy that authored this document and after 15 mins on the phone with jim bowes from his office in the netherlands, i'm at this point willing to say that the info is legit and real.

pretty darn cool if you ask me

discuss.

Any idea on the price? Did that say it would be available in August, or October? I was confused, not being fluent in Spanish. The price will tell us if the 20D will go down at that time, too.

wxwax · August 9, 2005

Cool link. If it talks about sensor size, I can't see it.

Does the fact that it won't take EF-S lenses mean that the sensor's larger than the 350D's?

wxwax · August 9, 2005

DavidTO wrote:

Any idea on the price? Did that say it would be available in August, or October? I was confused, not being fluent in Spanish. The price will tell us if the 20D will go down at that time, too.

Announced in August, sales begin middle of October, I think it says.

Andy · August 9, 2005

wxwax wrote:

Announced in August, sales begin middle of October, I think it says.

re: sensor size, it's right there on page 2 of the pdf

35.8 x 23.9mm CMOS
12.8 million effective pixels

patch29 · August 9, 2005

wxwax wrote:

Cool link. If it talks about sensor size, I can't see it. Does the fact that it won't take EF-S lenses mean that the sensor's larger than the 350D's?

cool. Hope it is true.

1.0x Multiplication with EF lens fitted

Andy · August 9, 2005

DavidTO wrote:

Any idea on the price?

the document states €3549 euros ... factor in that canon gear in europe is about 20% more than in the u.s., and that would put it in the ~ $3,500 usd range here in the states....

patch29 · August 9, 2005

It would be nice to know a price, that would be a great camera. I have been waiting for a higher performance camera with a smaller chassis.

wxwax · August 9, 2005

patch29 wrote:

It would be nice to know a price, that would be a great camera. I have been waiting for a higher performance camera with a smaller chassis.

I'd say about $3500 US.

Andy · August 9, 2005

patch29 wrote:

It would be nice to know a price, that would be a great camera. I have been waiting for a higher performance camera with a smaller chassis.

i suppose i can wait until october :uhoh

Andy · August 9, 2005

wxwax wrote:

I'd say about $3500 US.

Richard S · August 9, 2005

Here's the reader's digest version:

- 12.8 MP, full frame, no support for EF-S lenses

- Form factor about the same as 10D, rear control layout about the
same as 20D. Weighs a bit more than 10D.

- Rear LCD 2.5" / 230K pixels

- RGB Histogram

- Spot metering

- 9 point AF + 6 "invisible" AF points

- No built-in flash or AF-assist

- Takes new BG-E4 grip and new 430EX flash

- We don't know if the mode selection dial is in the 10D/20D style or
the 1D/1Ds "pro" style (need to press two buttons to do anything).

Andy · August 9, 2005

return email from mr bowes

Dear Andy,

Thanks for contacting me even though it has completely stressed me out. I guess you are now way ahead of the game. I am in contact with Canon and once I find out their position I will contact you.

Thanks again, and if your ever in Amsterdam I'll take you out for a big splif.

Jim

ya gotta love amsterdam. in nyc, i'd tell him: "i'll take you out for a big steak, and some beerz..."

pathfinder · August 9, 2005

Is this new 5D based on the sensor form the discontinued 1Ds perhaps? Sounds about the right digital size and it is full frame. That should be a really nice camera with Digic-ll and a 20D size body. Very interesting.

Higgmeister · August 9, 2005

Full Size Sensor

wxwax wrote:

Cool link. If it talks about sensor size, I can't see it. Does the fact that it won't take EF-S lenses mean that the sensor's larger than the 350D's?

Hi Sid,
It's a full size sensor:

IMAGE SENSOR
Type: 35.8 x 23.9mm CMOS
Effective Pixels: 12.8M Approx.
Total Pixels:13.3M Approx.
Aspect Ratio:3:2
Low-Pass Filter: Built in/Fixed
Colour Filter Type: Primary Colour

LENS
Lens Mount: EF (excludes EF-S lenses)
Focal Length: 1.0x Multiplication with EF lens fitted

Pulled this directly from the PDF doc. Looks like an upgrade to the 20D and not a replacement.

Chris

Richard S · August 9, 2005

> Is this new 5D based on the sensor from the discontinued 1Ds perhaps?

No, this camera is more kin to the 1Ds Mark II.

It looks like Canon is going down the path of full frame for pros and
1.6x + EF-S lenses for consumers. Nice and simple. I like it.

The leaked announcement also makes reference to a "1D Mark II N".

I bet it's another full frame camera, and the 1.3x 1D Mark II will get
phased out. It all makes perfect sense.

robscomputer · August 9, 2005

Very intersting but I'm not sure where does this camera fit in the current DSLR line? Is this a step up from the 20D? Kinda of comparing the EOS 3 upgrade from the film Rebel?

Looks like there is still going to be a huge gap between the 20D price range of $1,500 and this new camera of $3,500.

Rob

Andy · August 9, 2005

i sure hope it's true - nearly *half* the weight of the 1Ds Mark II and only 40grams heavier than the 20d

gus · August 9, 2005

anyone wanna buy a 10-22

DavidTO · August 9, 2005

andy wrote:

i sure hope it's true - nearly *half* the weight of the 1Ds Mark II and only 40grams heavier than the 20d

Yeah, it looks like the perfect camera for Andy. Aside from not taking the 10-22, the best of all worlds.

Are we going to start seeing pics from an IR modded 20D?

dragon300zx · August 9, 2005

Gus, The camera's not out yet and your already thinking of upgrading. I guess one good trick deserves another but I think you got a more costly addiction hanging out with andy than he got hanging out with you.

Andy · August 9, 2005

DavidTO wrote:

Are we going to start seeing pics from an IR modded 20D?

:nah read my post on the ir-modded 20d here.

Andy · August 9, 2005

dragon300zx wrote:

Gus, The camera's not out yet and your already thinking of upgrading. I guess one good trick deserves another but I think you got a more costly addiction hanging out with andy than he got hanging out with you.

rumors of gus turning tricks at yosemite are highly exaggerated!

Andy · August 9, 2005

ef-s is not a big deal here

DavidTO wrote:

Yeah, it looks like the perfect camera for Andy. Aside from not taking the 10-22, the best of all worlds.

Are we going to start seeing pics from an IR modded 20D?

yeah, okay, it's nice if you're using this camera and say a 20d as backup.. but ... the 16-35L or 17-40L will be just fine on this ff body

, no need for the 10-22 efs

davev · August 9, 2005

Looks like it will be great for the wide angle folks. I don't know if it would do
much for the bird/nature folks.

5D, 12.8 megapixel.
20D, 8.0 megapixel.

So if I use a 200mm lens on both cameras, the area in the center of the 5D (8 meg center crop)
should almost be pixel for pixel the same as the whole pic from the 20D because of the sensor crop.
Does this sound about right?

I know there are other features that are appealing. I'm just talking wide angle
users and telephoto users.

lynnesite · August 9, 2005

Sounds like just what I've been waiting for, a pro camera with the 10/20D's form factor for my smaller hands. (I've got the cans and pecs from years with the 70-200 2.8 IS though).

Now to get busy and make the dough so I can stand in line. And be able to handle the weight of the 1.4 TC more often.

Maybe Andy will buy one early on and decide it's too small or something, and I can get one that way.

Seamus · August 9, 2005

hopefully there will be loads of cheap second hand 1dmk11's on sale soon.

Steve Cavigliano · August 9, 2005

andy wrote:

return email from mr bowes

ya gotta love amsterdam. in nyc, i'd tell him: "i'll take you out for a big steak, and some beerz..."

..... That's all you need. To be drugged up while near a place that sells camera gear

Speaking of which, do you have your 5D pre-order in with B&H yet? :lol

Still no ISO settings in the VF :cry

Steve

wxwax · August 9, 2005

Humungus wrote:

anyone wanna buy a 10-22

Told you so.

Don't worry, 2 more years down the road and they'll have another one you'll want. It may never end.

ScottMcLeod · August 9, 2005

See this just posted:

http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=16261

2D Mk. II

True-r Perhaps?

5d taken by minolta, shoddy PDF file, almost photoshopped quality.

wxwax · August 9, 2005

ScottMcLeod wrote:

See this just posted:

http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=16261

2D Mk. II

True-r Perhaps?

5d taken by minolta, shoddy PDF file, almost photoshopped quality.

Where's the 2D mkI? I want my 2D mkI!

new canon 5d

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