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Sharp enough or do you need a day shot ? Totally untouched other than converted from RAW to Jpeg.
Man its a lot wider than i ever expected.
Model: Canon EOS 20D Size: 3520x2346 Bytes: 5268307 Aperture: f/5.6 ISO: 200 Focal Length: 10mm (guess: 8mm in 35mm) Exposure Time: 2.5s (25/10)Flash:Flash did not fire, compulsory flash modeExposure Program:Manual
http://wadjelaphotography.smugmug.com/photos/19650597-L.jpg
Crop of some size...um...smaller
http://wadjelaphotography.smugmug.com/photos/19650630-L.jpg
USAIR
Apr-14-2005, 02:30 AM
I have two lens on my list and the 10-22 is one
I will be looking for to see what you think about this lens
I like the shot by way too.... cool billboard :):
Thanks
Fred
Yep its an amazing lens. I was about 8-9 feet away & i recon that board was maybe 12 feet high.
rutt
Apr-14-2005, 04:48 AM
I bought one of these from Windoze and man, what a toy! I've only taken it out one outing, but I got some great shots.
http://rutt.smugmug.com/photos/19415867-L.jpg
http://rutt.smugmug.com/photos/19416019-L.jpg
http://rutt.smugmug.com/photos/19416893-L.jpg
http://rutt.smugmug.com/photos/19416098-L.jpg
http://rutt.smugmug.com/photos/19414801-L.jpg
http://rutt.smugmug.com/photos/19368874-L.jpg
http://rutt.smugmug.com/photos/19368938-L.jpg
For the closeup profile of the horn player, I had the camera about a foot away. The steering wheel maybe the same. The full figure shots of the horn player, I was at most three or four feet away. Looking at the world through this lens is really a different experience.
DoctorIt
Apr-14-2005, 05:16 AM
I wish I could put one on my 10D :cry
(no, I will not do surgery on a $500 lens)
rutt
Apr-14-2005, 05:18 AM
I wish I could put one on my 10D :cry
(no, I will not do surgery on a $500 lens)
All things come to him who waits...
Andy
Apr-14-2005, 05:23 AM
I wish I could put one on my 10D :cry
(no, I will not do surgery on a $800 lens)
fixed that for ya, doc.
DoctorIt
Apr-14-2005, 05:37 AM
fixed that for ya, doc.all the better, thanks andy :D
and now, I wait. :lol3
But does it look ok (sharpness wise) ?? Looks ok to me but would like an experienced opinion.
mercphoto
Apr-14-2005, 11:43 AM
But does it look ok (sharpness wise) ?? Looks ok to me but would like an experienced opinion.
Hmmm.... should I re-think my desire for the 17-40/4L?
Hmmm.... should I re-think my desire for the 17-40/4L?
I debated this for a long while also but fish & andy were sending telepathic garbage into my head for weeks. I put an old stainless steel washing machine bowl over my head & this worked to stop the msg's but i kept running into crap all the time.
I gave in & now all i can hear is andys Ipod (barry manilow)
mercphoto
Apr-14-2005, 12:01 PM
I gave in & now all i can hear is andys Ipod (barry manilow)
Andy has Barely Maneough on his iPod? Oh, the shame of it all... L OL!
I've heard the 17-40/4L has a special infrared coating to deal with the sensitvity of CMOS sensors to near infrared. Baldy alluded to this in a different thread. Same for the 10-22? A problem worth worrying about?
Andy has Barely Maneough on his iPod? Oh, the shame of it all... L OL!
I've heard the 17-40/4L has a special infrared coating to deal with the sensitvity of CMOS sensors to near infrared. Baldy alluded to this in a different thread. Same for the 10-22? A problem worth worrying about?
No idea mate...i just wanted W I D E.
I do know that for me at least...it is very easy to over think this stuff & whilst doing so, miss out on running around having fun.
Andys photo from st pats day parade swung me.
A better perspective...i was about 3/4 the way back to the road & you can see someone in the background to show the size of the billboard...
http://wadjelaphotography.smugmug.com/photos/19676627-L.jpg
philspace
Apr-14-2005, 03:27 PM
So far I'm impressed with mine, got it last week - haven't been able to play too much yet, but I did experiment and have used some pointers for a couple posts about using distort in PS to clean it up a tad if you are all the way out - blows stitching pictures together away.
I did this one at 12mm and was standing on the sidewalk - I did touch it up a little to straight out the left side of the building - this is very cool.
I was less than 10 feet from the building, standing on the sidwalk - gonna be a great summer up on the Blue Ridge with this lens :shay
http://philspace.smugmug.com/photos/19528504-M.jpg
Sharp enough or do you need a day shot ? Totally untouched other than converted from RAW to Jpeg.
Man its a lot wider than i ever expected.
Model: Canon EOS 20D Size: 3520x2346 Bytes: 5268307 Aperture: f/5.6 ISO: 200 Focal Length: 10mm (guess: 8mm in 35mm) Exposure Time: 2.5s (25/10)Flash:Flash did not fire, compulsory flash modeExposure Program:Manual
Gus,
There are a lot of elabrate methods to check a lens, (no I don't know them all), but if you want to get a pretty good real world feel for your lens I might sugest you shoot during the day and use a tripod with, if possible, a remote shutter switch. Brick walls are pretty good ( the poster would be good as well) but just set up and take a number of shots using different focal lengths and aperatures. Download them to your computer and look at them. How do they compare to your other lenses? Check the center and outside edges.
If it looks good, it's good.
Oh, and I think the 35 mm focal length equivalent for 10 mm is 16 mm. But the number isn't important. It's wide!
You'll make good use of the lens in Yosemite.
Sam
Andy
Apr-14-2005, 06:42 PM
Andy has Barely Maneough on his iPod? Oh, the shame of it all... L OL!
:nono
:puke
rutt
Apr-14-2005, 06:54 PM
:nono
:puke
This was a perfectly good discussion of the properties of this very interesting lens and now it has deteriated into puke emoticons. Jeez and you a super moderator and all. Maybe I'll have to switch to FM where a more sober sense of decorum prevails and perfectly interesting topics don't degenerate into personalities and threats.
sash
Apr-14-2005, 07:53 PM
congrats, man... awesome! i opted for the 17-40 but have come to realize it's often simply not wide enough on a 1.6 :scratch i absolutely love it though and don't wanna get rid of it... it'll have to do for now.
looking forward to more, gus!
sash
GREAPER
Apr-14-2005, 08:00 PM
Rutt and Gus'
These are some really cool shots you guys have posted here.
I need a wider lens, and a longer lense, and a lens that shoots closer, and a faster lense, and more megapixels....
You guys are gunna bankrupt me....
This was a perfectly good discussion of the properties of this very interesting lens and now it has deteriated into puke emoticons. Jeez and you a super moderator and all. Maybe I'll have to switch to FM where a more sober sense of decorum prevails and perfectly interesting topics don't degenerate into personalities and threats.
Hey dont give andy any credit...i hijacked my own thread !
Rutt and Gus'
These are some really cool shots you guys have posted here.
I need a wider lens, and a longer lense, and a lens that shoots closer, and a faster lense, and more megapixels....
You guys are gunna bankrupt me....
Its bad 'eh mate ? I go to a hangin' these days & all i want to do 1st up (instead of work out who im sitting next to & just how i insulted them last time) is sneak a peek at the photogs gear.
congrats, man... awesome! i opted for the 17-40 but have come to realize it's often simply not wide enough on a 1.6 :scratch i absolutely love it though and don't wanna get rid of it... it'll have to do for now.
looking forward to more, gus!
sashTa mate...i love it.
rutt
Apr-15-2005, 03:52 AM
Hey dont give andy any credit...i hijacked my own thread !
But there really is no reason to expect more from you. And even you didn't bring on the puke.
wxwax
Apr-15-2005, 05:56 AM
I debated this for a long while also but fish & andy were sending telepathic garbage into my head for weeks. I put an old stainless steel washing machine bowl over my head & this worked to stop the msg's but i kept running into crap all the time.
I gave in & now all i can hear is andys Ipod (barry manilow)
:rofl
wxwax
Apr-15-2005, 05:59 AM
This was a perfectly good discussion of the properties of this very interesting lens and now it has deteriated into puke emoticons. Jeez and you a super moderator and all. Maybe I'll have to switch to FM where a more sober sense of decorum prevails and perfectly interesting topics don't degenerate into personalities and threats.
:bad :flip
Andy
Apr-15-2005, 06:26 AM
This was a perfectly good discussion of the properties of this very interesting lens and now it has deteriated into puke emoticons. Jeez and you a super moderator and all. Maybe I'll have to switch to FM where a more sober sense of decorum prevails and perfectly interesting topics don't degenerate into personalities and threats.
who's threatening? :dunno
but, if someone puts barry manifold on my ipod, i'll kill 'em :lol3
Andy
Apr-15-2005, 06:28 AM
But does it look ok (sharpness wise) ?? Looks ok to me but would like an experienced opinion.
'gus - this shot, says it all (http://wadjelaphotography.smugmug.com/gallery/476622/1/19366036/Large) ya got a good lens there :thumb
rutt
Apr-15-2005, 06:53 AM
who's threatening?
My last sentence was self referential. Get it now?
Andy
Apr-15-2005, 07:17 AM
My last sentence was self referential. Get it now?
nope. :scratch
i cannot tell if you are pissed :pissed or making a joke :lol3
pathfinder
Apr-15-2005, 07:37 AM
nope. :scratch
i cannot tell if you are pissed :pissed or making a joke :lol3
:D That's why the emoticons are so helpful :huh
robscomputer
Apr-15-2005, 08:14 AM
I'm looking at the 20D in the very near future and would buy the 10-22 as my only true digital lens. Since I don't venture too far in the focal length world I would be content with just a ultra wide lens. :) For now...
Just wondering if you can post pictures of the same area at 10 then at 22?
Thanks,
Rob
rutt
Apr-15-2005, 08:40 AM
This was a perfectly good discussion of the properties of this very interesting lens and now it has deteriated into puke emoticons. Jeez and you a super moderator and all. Maybe I'll have to switch to FM where a more sober sense of decorum prevails and perfectly interesting topics don't degenerate into personalities and threats.
Sigh. I suppose I'm going to have to translate this :dunno It was a joke :rofl I threatened to switch to FM :wxwax and got very personal http://www.dgrin.com/images/smilies/duel.gif Then I turned right around and said that the thread had degenerated into personalities and threats :rofl So I was making a little joke on myself there :clap 'cause it was the very thing I just did :1drink Guess it was just not written in the right language :scratch
rutt
Apr-15-2005, 08:49 AM
I'm finding this lens to be like the gauntlets of power. Everytime I take it out, I bring back this great stuff. It really has completely changed how I look at my 20D. With this lens, it's wider than anything I have for my 1DmkII. And so much smaller and lighter! Canon really has been very clever here. Rumors are that there are some more very cool EFS offereings coming over the next few months.
With this much FOV, even basically boring scenes can be very dramatic.
http://rutt.smugmug.com/photos/19724132-L.jpg
I will try to take the lens out with a tripod and run it through its various settings sometime soon.
Andy
Apr-15-2005, 09:06 AM
Sigh. I suppose I'm going to have to translate this :dunno It was a joke :rofl I threatened to switch to FM :wxwax and got very personal http://www.dgrin.com/images/smilies/duel.gif Then I turned right around and said that the thread had degenerated into personalities and threads :rofl So I was making a little joke on myself there :clap 'cause it was the very thing I just did :1drink Guess it was just not written in the right language :scratch
hehe i told you last night i was a bit of a moron, didn't i :deal
rutt
Apr-15-2005, 09:09 AM
It's just too much fun. I can't restrain myself.
I cropped this quite a bit to get the flower off center.
http://rutt.smugmug.com/photos/19723980-L.jpg
ISO 400, f7.1 22mm
This was pretty crooked and also some boring stuff in it, so it is also cropped, maybe only 1/2 of the FOV:
http://rutt.smugmug.com/photos/19724761-L.jpg
ISO 400, f10, 10mm
This last as no sharpening, ulike nearly all my other posts. I think the grass is sort of a good demo of the lens itself. Maybe I'll sharpen as a plug for the tutorial.
rutt
Apr-15-2005, 09:26 AM
Here is that grass shot again, unsharpened:
http://rutt.smugmug.com/photos/19724761-L.jpg
And here it is after sharpening with the techniques from my sharpening turorials:
http://rutt.smugmug.com/photos/19726081-L.jpg
Suppose they made two versions of this lens, one that produced the first image and one that produced the second. How much more would you pay?
DoctorIt
Apr-15-2005, 11:00 AM
Hey Rutt - i don't know how I feel about that example. Grass is hard to shoot as it's hard to say where the focus is. The first time I saw the unsharp grass, I was thinking more that it was OOF than unsharp.
:dunno
and I can't answer your question as i'd pay more if the darn thing wasn't an ef-s to begin with!
'gus - this shot, says it all (http://wadjelaphotography.smugmug.com/gallery/476622/1/19366036/Large) ya got a good lens there :thumb
Sorry mate but thats my kit lens at 17mm ...only got the 10-22 2 days ago. I really would have liked it for the week-end though. Got some stuff lined up today though.
hehe i told you last night i was a bit of a moron, didn't i :dealYa drongo....even i got it :wxwax
I'm looking at the 20D in the very near future and would buy the 10-22 as my only true digital lens. Since I don't venture too far in the focal length world I would be content with just a ultra wide lens. :) For now...
Just wondering if you can post pictures of the same area at 10 then at 22?
Thanks,
Rob
Cool rob...ive nothing on me right now but im out with it today so hang in there mate...there is a small island here im walking to at low tide with the 10-22 today.
philspace
Apr-15-2005, 12:20 PM
I'm finding this lens to be like the gauntlets of power. Everytime I take it out, I bring back this great stuff. It really has completely changed how I look at my 20D. With this lens, it's wider than anything I have for my 1DmkII. And so much smaller and lighter! Canon really has been very clever here. Rumors are that there are some more very cool EFS offereings coming over the next few months.
Same here, I'm hoping that their next couple EFS lenses are a tad faster, at least a 2.8 would be nice.
Gus,
There are a lot of elabrate methods to check a lens, (no I don't know them all), but if you want to get a pretty good real world feel for your lens I might sugest you shoot during the day and use a tripod with, if possible, a remote shutter switch. Brick walls are pretty good ( the poster would be good as well) but just set up and take a number of shots using different focal lengths and aperatures. Download them to your computer and look at them. How do they compare to your other lenses? Check the center and outside edges.
If it looks good, it's good.
Oh, and I think the 35 mm focal length equivalent for 10 mm is 16 mm. But the number isn't important. It's wide!
You'll make good use of the lens in Yosemite.
SamI will go & try that today some time sam. I had forgotton the 'brick wall' method. I took it to a 40th birthday party at a bowling green last night....man what it can do !! Perspective + !
rockyp
Apr-22-2005, 02:07 PM
[QUOTE=Humungus]Sharp enough or do you need a day shot ? Totally untouched other than converted from RAW to Jpeg.
Man its a lot wider than i ever expected.
[QUOTE]
This 10-22 may not be the "best" lens I ever owned, but it is probably the most fun and most satisfying!
Here's Lake Crescent in NW washington State...
I am having great fun with it also rockyp...& thats what its about 'eh ?
http://wadjelaphotography.smugmug.com/photos/19838407-M.jpg
USAIR
Apr-22-2005, 04:04 PM
I am having great fun with it also rockyp...& thats what its about 'eh ?
http://wadjelaphotography.smugmug.com/photos/19838407-M.jpgCool Shot
Kewl Kite:):
Thanks
Fred
NHBubba
Apr-27-2005, 01:19 PM
I agree, this lens rocks. The guy down the hall here at work bought one last week. I got to fiddle w/ it yesterday and earlier today, both on his 20D and my DRebel. That guy gets all the kewl toys. First he gets the Sigma 8 and Canon 15mm fish eyes, now this! .. The upswing is he's talking of selling the Canon 15 to me for cheap! :thumb The downswing is I'm finding myself w/o the cash to buy it.. :cry
At any rate. Yeah, the lens is absurdly wide. Said lens' owner says he's in love w/ it in terms of color, contrast, and sharpness. He 'tested' a 17-85 IS and wasn't happy w/ it. Very poor performance at and near 17 he said. Also he got his paws on a Tamron 17-35.. that he said was outright horrible! Me, I didn't see either of the other lenses.. not that I'm a particularly great judge of such things anyway. But after fiddling w/ the 10-22 I too am impressed.
I totally understand how someone could get ahold of this lens and feel like a kid w/ his first SLR again. My favorite photos are the unique ones. Be it unique subjects, unique composition and viewing angles, unique color or lighting, or especially close (macro). The common thread is that the photo is of something or set in such a way as to be substantially different then how you'd normally see it. This wide angle lens makes that easy as it presents EVERYTHING in a radically different way..
Uber kewl I say. It's totally going on the 'wish' list..
Mike Lane
Jun-17-2005, 09:55 PM
I rented the 10-22 recently. I wasn't 100% satisfied with it but it did produce some interesting shots.
http://mikelane.smugmug.com/photos/20519869-L.jpg
Lots of distortion on this lens (duh...)
http://mikelane.smugmug.com/photos/20519873-L.jpg
Lots of photoshopping on this one (maybe too much)...
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