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Khaos
Apr-09-2005, 05:05 PM
If you can't find anything to shoot, break out the wide angle, find some "perspective."

http://khaos.smugmug.com/photos/19285319-L.jpg



At a different angle and exagerating the curve of the tree. I also played with the color to give it a colder more desolate look.


http://khaos.smugmug.com/photos/19285321-L.jpg

bfjr
Apr-09-2005, 05:15 PM
I like the 1st one, can picture myself walking down the path :thumb
Very good way to handle nothing to shot :D

By the way there's probably a couple macro shots in there somewhere :lol

Khaos
Apr-10-2005, 07:45 PM
I like the 1st one, can picture myself walking down the path :thumb
Very good way to handle nothing to shot :D

By the way there's probably a couple macro shots in there somewhere :lol
Thanks.

ginger_55
Apr-10-2005, 10:06 PM
I like the second one best, it is more weird.

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Skippy
Apr-11-2005, 04:14 AM
If you can't find anything to shoot, break out the wide angle, find some "perspective."

At a different angle and exagerating the curve of the tree. I also played with the color to give it a colder more desolate look.



I like both shots, I am looking to buy a wide angle lens in a couple more weeks time :) seriously looking at the Canon 24mm 1.4

Thanks for sharing your images......... Skippy (Australia)

rutt
Apr-11-2005, 04:17 AM
These are oversharpened. Was that on purpose? Trees and bushes without leaves are very easy to oversharpen. They will loom large in the second sharpening tutorial and dd assignment.

Khaos
Apr-11-2005, 07:26 AM
I like both shots, I am looking to buy a wide angle lens in a couple more weeks time :) seriously looking at the Canon 24mm 1.4

Thanks for sharing your images......... Skippy (Australia)
Thanks.

They were taken using the 10-22 EF-S. If you have the 20D, I highly recommend this lens.

Khaos
Apr-11-2005, 07:31 AM
These are oversharpened. Was that on purpose? Trees and bushes without leaves are very easy to oversharpen. They will loom large in the second sharpening tutorial and dd assignment.
To get the effect, yes, they are that way on purpose. I did not use unsharp mask, but increased them by shadow and highlight and then also played with the white and black in selective color to give the bark and branches the white\blue glow.

While I liked the idea of the shot, the sky color that day was blah, and the overall effect of two tall trees with some branches against the sky didn't do it for me. So I deepened the sky and increased the contrast against the branches and also sharpened the bark of the trees to get the effect of the trees pushing upwards against a sky pushing downwards.

ginger_55
Apr-11-2005, 08:27 AM
To get the effect, yes, they are that way on purpose. I did not use unsharp mask, but increased them by shadow and highlight and then also played with the white and black in selective color to give the bark and branches the white\blue glow.

While I liked the idea of the shot, the sky color that day was blah, and the overall effect of two tall trees with some branches against the sky didn't do it for me. So I deepened the sky and increased the contrast against the branches and also sharpened the bark of the trees to get the effect of the trees pushing upwards against a sky pushing downwards.

Could you tell me how that sharpens them? Not technically, but what I should do when I use shadow/highlights so that I don't get a hyper sharpening effect. I use it for shadow highlights, rarely use USM, as I hate people saying my stuff is over sharpened. I figured that if I didn't sharpen, they wouldn't say that. But I often do what you did, not for the same effect, but I just like the highlights/shadow thing, and I like to deepen the blacks and often like to bring up the whites a little? How would I avoid a sharpening look?

I have already said that I really like the second trees. I would love to have that lens. I have the 17-40L from fish. I think he sold it so he could buy the lens you used. I have to have some lens I can half way call "normal". My 17-40 seems to have become it.

ginger

Khaos
Apr-11-2005, 08:44 AM
Could you tell me how that sharpens them? Not technically, but what I should do when I use shadow/highlights so that I don't get a hyper sharpening effect. I use it for shadow highlights, rarely use USM, as I hate people saying my stuff is over sharpened. I figured that if I didn't sharpen, they wouldn't say that. But I often do what you did, not for the same effect, but I just like the highlights/shadow thing, and I like to deepen the blacks and often like to bring up the whites a little? How would I avoid a sharpening look?

I have already said that I really like the second trees. I would love to have that lens. I have the 17-40L from fish. I think he sold it so he could buy the lens you used. I have to have some lens I can half way call "normal". My 17-40 seems to have become it.

ginger
When you deepen the shadow and increase the highlight, you get more detail by increasing the depth of what's there. This works well on feathers, tree bark, flower petals, or anything that has a lot of shallow texture. It's a game in increasing the shadows and highlights while adjusting the tonal. Like anything, the mileage varies depending on the pic. You also can use the midtone slider to assist in toning down over exposed colors.

I purposely overdid it on these photos, but it is a tool I use way more than unsharp mask. My pics are in focus, but sometimes need a little help bring out some textures.

rutt
Apr-11-2005, 09:46 AM
I purposely overdid it on these photos, but it is a tool I use way more than unsharp mask. My pics are in focus, but sometimes need a little help bring out some textures.

Without meaning to highjack this thread, let me get a plug in for my sharpening tutorial. (http://dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=9541) and the current digital darkroom assignment (http://dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=9547) on sharpening. Sharpening is not a fix for soft focus. In fact, it doesn't work very well if the image is not in focus. But nearly every image can benefit from some sharpening, especially when printed.

Khaos
Apr-11-2005, 09:55 AM
Without meaning to highjack this thread, let me get a plug in for my sharpening tutorial. (http://dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=9541) and the current digital darkroom assignment (http://dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=9547) on sharpening. Sharpening is not a fix for soft focus. In fact, it doesn't work very well if the image is not in focus. But nearly every image can benefit from some sharpening, especially when printed.
The great thing about this site is the help everyone gets. Plug away, your tutorials are always helpful. :thumb Thanks.