20d has arrived...

[DeanMcM]

Well my 20D has finally arrived. :clap Have'nt had much time yet to use it.
I took some shots with the 18-55 lens. It seems real hard to get
enough light into it. I know it is not a great lens, but expected more.
(still very early, I have to play with it more).

I like the feel of the 20D. A little loud, no big deal. Miss the swivel of the 717.
Uploading seems very slow. And with the 18-55 (so far) I can't get enough light to get sharp pictures. I will need to learn alot with the 20d. Seems user friendly, and I enjoy the learning part.

I am still pretty green with photography. :scratch So I can't fault the camera.

Does anyone use and get good results with the kit lens? I also got the 55-200. I may have to save up for better glass???

Well, I will post some pics this weekend.

I have to make this work or Harry will say I told you so. :help

Thanks
Dean

[jthomas]

Well my 20D has finally arrived. :clap Have'nt had much time yet to use it.
I took some shots with the 18-55 lens. It seems real hard to get
enough light into it. I know it is not a great lens, but expected more.
Dean
After looking through that lens on a Rebel 300 side-by-side with Nikon's 18-70 on a D70, I went for the Nikon. The superior light-gathering ability of the Nikon sold me on that lens, and I didn't want to go the extra cost of a lens upgrade to buy the Canon. Of course, with a lens upgrade, you'll have a better camera than I will, but at nearly twice the $$.

I'm sure you'll love it.:):

[marlof]

Excellent news! It'll be nice to see some pictures, but it sounds like you're having tremendous fun with your camera.

[DeanMcM]

After looking through that lens on a Rebel 300 side-by-side with Nikon's 18-70 on a D70, I went for the Nikon. The superior light-gathering ability of the Nikon sold me on that lens, and I didn't want to go the extra cost of a lens upgrade to buy the Canon. Of course, with a lens upgrade, you'll have a better camera than I will, but at nearly twice the $$.

I'm sure you'll love it.:):That's what I am afraid of (buying more glass). I will wait and see.
I think it will work out.

Thanks :thumb
Dean

[DeanMcM]

Excellent news! It'll be nice to see some pictures, but it sounds like you're having tremendous fun with your camera.I will make it fun!! Thanks!:clap

[Harryb]

. I may have to save up for better glass???


I have to make this work or Harry will say I told you so. :help

Thanks
Dean
The first sign of lens lust. You are doomed. :lol4

[DeanMcM]

The first sign of lens lust. You are doomed. :lol4There goes my kids education money!! :rofl :cry

Thanks
Dean

[leebase]

Congrats. The kit lens is fine. It is not, however, a wide aperature (fast) lens. It has no less "light gathering" ability than any other equally slow lens (f3.5 to f5.6)

Many, many a fantastic picture have been taken with this lens. Not be me, mind you, but by folks much better photographer's than I.

If your photos are dark...then bump up the ISO. Also consider adding some exposure compensation (tells the camera you want more light).

If you are new to SLR's...it'll take some getting use to. It's dissappointing that you spend $1500 for a new DSLR and you can't get as good a photo as you got from your old 717 -- but that is a COMMON reality.

With experience will come photos that surpass what you could do with your old camera. Even with the Kit lens....which for $100 is a decent wide angle lens.

The next lens to consider is the Canon 50mm f1.8 because it's a fast (wide aperature) lens, and it's cheap (around $75) -- and it's a very nice lens.

If you decide you want something better than the kit lens, consider the Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 or the Tamron 17-35 f2.8/4.

Lee

[Andy]

After looking through that lens on a Rebel 300 side-by-side with Nikon's 18-70 on a D70, I went for the Nikon. The superior light-gathering ability of the Nikon sold me on that lens, and I didn't want to go the extra cost of a lens upgrade to buy the Canon. Of course, with a lens upgrade, you'll have a better camera than I will, but at nearly twice the $$.

I'm sure you'll love it.:):

it's not the camera that has the ability to gather light - it's the brightness of the lens - how fast it is...

[DeanMcM]

Congrats. The kit lens is fine. It is not, however, a wide aperature (fast) lens. It has no less "light gathering" ability than any other equally slow lens (f3.5 to f5.6)

Many, many a fantastic picture have been taken with this lens. Not be me, mind you, but by folks much better photographer's than I.

If your photos are dark...then bump up the ISO. Also consider adding some exposure compensation (tells the camera you want more light).

If you are new to SLR's...it'll take some getting use to. It's dissappointing that you spend $1500 for a new DSLR and you can't get as good a photo as you got from your old 717 -- but that is a COMMON reality.

With experience will come photos that surpass what you could do with your old camera. Even with the Kit lens....which for $100 is a decent wide angle lens.

The next lens to consider is the Canon 50mm f1.8 because it's a fast (wide aperature) lens, and it's cheap (around $75) -- and it's a very nice lens.

If you decide you want something better than the kit lens, consider the Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 or the Tamron 17-35 f2.8/4.

LeeThanks for the info, I really need to play around with it an learn DSLR. :thumb

Dean

[jthomas]

it's not the camera that has the ability to gather light - it's the brightness of the lens - how fast it is... :clap What I said was "The superior light-gathering ability of the Nikon sold me on that lens".

It was the lens I was referring to, not the camera. Sorry if I didn't make myself clear.