Photoshop Express On Line

[Ann McRae]

Free Web Version of Photoshop Launches (http://www.physorg.com/news125811297.html)

[claudermilk]

San Jose, Calif.-based Adobe Systems Inc. says it hopes to boost its name recognition among a new generation of consumers who edit, store and share photos online.

How much more name recognition than "ubiquitous" can you get? The darn product is already an adjective 'Hey, go Photoshop that." :scratch:huh

[Scott_Quier]

How much more name recognition than "ubiquitous" can you get? The darn product is already an adjective 'Hey, go Photoshop that." :scratch:huh
Actually, in that context, I think "Photoshop" is used as a verb:dunno This is just as strong a statement as it being an adjective, maybe more.

[OffTopic]

Watch out for the rights grab in the TOS (https://www.photoshop.com/express/terms.html):

"8. Use of Your Content.

1. Adobe does not claim ownership of Your Content. However, with respect to Your Content that you submit or make available for inclusion on publicly accessible areas of the Services, you grant Adobe a worldwide, royalty-free, nonexclusive, perpetual, irrevocable, and fully sublicensable license to use, distribute, derive revenue or other remuneration from, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, publicly perform and publicly display such Content (in whole or in part) and to incorporate such Content into other Materials or works in any format or medium now known or later developed."

Shame on them! :nono

[Anthony]

Watch out for the rights grab in the TOS (https://www.photoshop.com/express/terms.html):

"8. Use of Your Content.

1. Adobe does not claim ownership of Your Content. However, with respect to Your Content that you submit or make available for inclusion on publicly accessible areas of the Services, you grant Adobe a worldwide, royalty-free, nonexclusive, perpetual, irrevocable, and fully sublicensable license to use, distribute, derive revenue or other remuneration from, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, publicly perform and publicly display such Content (in whole or in part) and to incorporate such Content into other Materials or works in any format or medium now known or later developed."

Shame on them! :nono

Did you see the comments on John Nack's blog? It appears Adobe are now rethinking their stance on this after all the complaints that have been voiced. Good job too.

Anthony.

[Scott_Quier]

Did you see the comments on John Nack's blog? It appears Adobe are now rethinking their stance on this after all the complaints that have been voiced. Good job too.

Anthony.
It'll be interesting to see what, if any, changes they make in their position on this.

[claudermilk]

Actually, in that context, I think "Photoshop" is used as a verb:dunno This is just as strong a statement as it being an adjective, maybe more.

:doh:bash You'd think I would have learned something in all those years in English classes! Yes, a verb--though in some circles (e.g., APUG) it would be considered a pejorative. :D:rolleyes

Anyway, for anyone with half a clue about copyrights & who cares even a little, they need to dump the entire clause & rewrite to not make any claim to the edited content at all. Of course, that group of people also likely already owns PS CS or newer & won't be looking to use this tool anyway.

[colourbox]

Adobe's license agreement there is standard, it's just not well-written. SmugMug's is much better, because it's simpler, clearer, and more self-limiiting. Hopefully, Adobe's will end up looking more like SmugMug's.

SmugMug does not claim ownership in the photographs, videos or other media created or uploaded by Subscribers ("Media"). SmugMug will not resell Media to third parties. Unless we indicate otherwise, if you upload Content, including any Media, to the SmugMug site, you grant SmugMug a nonexclusive, royalty-free right to publish, distribute and display the Content as we deem appropriate in providing the Services authorized or requested by you, including the right to use the name that is submitted in connection with such Content. You further understand and agree that, in order to help ensure smooth operation of our system, we may keep backup copies of Content indefinitely.

What you cannot do is eliminate these agreements. If you do, no site will have a legal right to store and display copies of our stuff.

[Richard]

According to a blog post (http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2008/03/a_note_about_ps.html) by John Nack, Adobe is acknowledging that the TOS statement was poorly crafted. They are planning a revision, so stay tuned.