View Full Version : C. 35: Envy
rutt
Mar-26-2005, 07:48 PM
This might not be the greatest shot, but I think it's very recognizable as envy:
http://rutt.smugmug.com/photos/18292954-L.jpg
How much do you have to know about cars to get it? How about this one?
http://rutt.smugmug.com/photos/18296068-L.jpg
I know for a fact that the subject in the first two has envy in this case, envy in the full St. Thomas Aquinas sense. He wants the cars. If he can't have them, wishes the actual owner didn't own them. And I think it shows, but maybe my personal knowledge helped me out.
What about this one?
http://rutt.smugmug.com/photos/18292711-L.jpg
I think it's a better image. You don't have to know as much about cars to know what they are looking at. And I think the envy is apparent, though maybe we don't know for sure that this guy would rather have the car destroyed than be owned by another. But maybe this is actually angles on a pinhead. What do you think? Envy here?
ginger_55
Mar-26-2005, 08:07 PM
I thought the envy shows best in the first shot. And believe me, I do know car envy.
g (I agree completely with that guy, if I can't have it, no one else should either. And if it were a sibling having it..........it is enough to kill some people) Or an ex husband, an ex anything should never have anything! Unless I have more (I don't)
I envy you that you found such naked desire. Maybe you should call it lust.
Or remember Pride is the root of all sins.
rutt
Mar-26-2005, 09:27 PM
Perhaps there is hope for the first image. I did a more careful post treatment of it. Opinions, please.
http://rutt.smugmug.com/photos/18302646-L.jpg
Mitchell
Mar-27-2005, 03:47 AM
Looks like lust to me. I like your redone first shot.
mitch
rutt
Mar-27-2005, 05:20 AM
http://rutt.smugmug.com/photos/18313124-L.jpg
A closer crop, a little more contrast on his face, I don't think I can do any better with this shot. It's envy all right, but it was pretty dark in there...
ginger_55
Mar-27-2005, 08:40 AM
Rutt, if you send me the car..........any car, maybe I could work on it.
ginger (Maybe that sentence makes no sense, but to me it does) rain soaked in south carolina.
i never knew that anyone else wanted a car so badly.
bfjr
Mar-27-2005, 10:06 AM
I hate to throw a monkey wrench in the works. Since I been stinking at these challanges :scratch:cry, Buuuuuuuttttttttt
That looks more like longing then envy. Kinda the way I look when viewing these beauties :wxwax:)::rofl
ginger_55
Mar-27-2005, 11:25 AM
I hate to throw a monkey wrench in the works. Since I been stinking at these challanges :scratch:cry, Buuuuuuuttttttttt
That looks more like longing then envy. Kinda the way I look when viewing these beauties :wxwax:)::rofl
That is true. Mine looks like nothing. I don't have any answers. So far we have two entries. I love the tomato, but I think that is lust.
I have been afraid to try a cucumber. Other than that...........
And I am not going to fret about it.
ginger
thegreenegg
Mar-28-2005, 09:13 AM
I like this picture. I just wish it was more focused on the man's face than on the car. It's all about him, wanting it really.
Good job though, I do like the colors and the emotion is clear to me.
Ashley
rutt
Mar-28-2005, 09:16 AM
I like this picture. I just wish it was more focused on the man's face than on the car. It's all about him, wanting it really.
Good job though, I do like the colors and the emotion is clear to me.
Ashley Yeah, I worked on it quite a bit, but the real problem (I think) is that the light was low and shutter speed was long and people move and cars don't. The grain is also more a problem on the face than on the car.
I like the picture, too. But it isn't winning any contests. I do think it shows what can be done in terms of shooting candids for this contest, though.
DoctorIt
Mar-28-2005, 09:16 AM
A closer crop, a little more contrast on his face, I don't think I can do any better with this shot. It's envy all right, but it was pretty dark in there...I don't like the crop, only because I hate to ruin perfectly good circles (the wheel) when I have them in the frame.
:dunno
the emotion is there though. I'll let you and the others figure that on out. Seems like too many of them are coming down to "lust"... hmmm
spockling
Mar-28-2005, 09:44 AM
My .02 worth here, I could buy it being envy had there been someone sitting in the car. With him just looking at it, it appears to me that it is more "want/desire" than envy.
rutt
Mar-28-2005, 09:45 AM
My .02 worth here, I could buy it being envy had there been someone sitting in the car. With him just looking at it, it appears to me that it is more "want/desire" than envy.
Yeah, the subject (my brother-in-law) later described how bad it would have been if Ralph had been there with a beautiful woman.
ginger_55
Mar-28-2005, 09:48 AM
I agree with whoever said it showed "longing" or desire more than envy.
g
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