Ok andy & fish....its done

[gus]

Just put a deposit on a 20D. Only a month or so old with about 600 actuations on it. Prob pick it up in a week. Got the kit lens on it to practice with.

Now the real pain with what to scew onto the front of it :dunno I saw & held my 1st ever sigma 120-300 f/2.8 today also....man i cant get over the size of that thing...:huh its like looking straight down the barrel of a naval gun !! Not as heavy as i had thought either...its go some serious dool power to it thats for certain.

Am i still allowed in the Nikonians car from SF to yosemite ?

[pathfinder]

Just put a deposit on a 20D. Only a month or so old with about 600 actuations on it. Prob pick it up in a week. Got the kit lens on it to practice with.

Now the real pain with what to scew onto the front of it :dunno I saw & held my 1st ever sigma 120-300 f/2.8 today also....man i cant get over the size of that thing...:huh its like looking straight down the barrel of a naval gun !! Not as heavy as i had thought either...its go some serious drewl power to it thats for certain.

Am i still allowed in the Nikonians car from SF to yosemite ?

Let me be the first to congratulate you and induct you into the white lens crowd!! Good choice 'gus. Sorry Harry - but he is one of us now and all!! Hooray Hooray. I am sure Andy will be very pleased also! :thumb :clap

Care to elaborate on how you made your decision? I am sure there are other posters who are still deliberating and most folks thought you had fallen to the dark side.

Once again - welcome to white lens land! See you in Yosemite in just few weeks now. :):

Lens suggestions - you already know these
50mm f1.4
35mm f1.4
100mm f2.8 macro
normal range zoom
long zoom or primes

It has been too long without seeing any images by you from Oz!! Get busy!! :D :D

[Andy]

Just put a deposit on a 20D. Only a month or so old with about 600 actuations on it. Prob pick it up in a week. Got the kit lens on it to practice with.

Now the real pain with what to scew onto the front of it :dunno I saw & held my 1st ever sigma 120-300 f/2.8 today also....man i cant get over the size of that thing...:huh its like looking straight down the barrel of a naval gun !! Not as heavy as i had thought either...its go some serious drewl power to it thats for certain.

Am i still allowed in the Nikonians car from SF to yosemite ?

:clap congrats, 'gus. y'know, we poke fun 'round here, heck i'm just glad you pulled the trigger :deal it's been too long since you've been without a camera.

next lens? well, i know you like your macros, so you might go macro. use the kit lens as your wide until you're ready to get the 17-40 or 16-35 is my advice. based on your desire for surfing, motorsport, etc, you'll need a long zoom. save your ozziebucks, for that. maybe get the 100mm macro and really enjoy the closeups for a while? remember, in yosemite, you'll get to try out gobs of glass.

really happy for you!


and don't worry, if the nikonians won't let you in their car to yosemite, you can ride with steve and me :lol3

[gus]

Care to elaborate on how you made your decision? :D :D
Really it is a just a great camera...something that isnt wont get the following its has so quickly received. Few things stood out being cmos & high ISO.

Ta mate

[Andy]

here you go, 'gus... 600mm of while lens glory (http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/194729)

[gus]

:clap congrats, 'gus. y'know, we poke fun 'round here, heck i'm just glad you pulled the trigger :deal it's been too long since you've been without a camera.

next lens? well, i know you like your macros, so you might go macro. use the kit lens as your wide until you're ready to get the 17-40 or 16-35 is my advice. based on your desire for surfing, motorsport, etc, you'll need a long zoom. save your ozziebucks, for that. maybe get the 100mm macro and really enjoy the closeups for a while? remember, in yosemite, you'll get to try out gobs of glass.

really happy for you!


and don't worry, if the nikonians won't let you in their car to yosemite, you can ride with steve and me :lol3
Mate the only real reason i did so many macros from days of old was that the camera i had suited it so well...it was quite ordinary for anything else.

Now im wanting to do the motor sport/surfing stuff so i have some serious demons inside fighting it out. I cant tell you how nice that 120-300 f/2.8 felt.

[dkapp]

Am i still allowed in the Nikonians car from SF to yosemite ?

You have your chose of 3 luxury seating options. You can either be strapped to the:

1.) Front Bumper
2.) Back Bumper
3.) Roof

Congrats on a great camera. I look forward to seeing what you can do.

P.S. Bring goggles & a helmet for the trip. :D

Dave

[gus]

here you go, 'gus... 600mm of while lens glory (http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/194729)
$7682.95 0z clams.....:lol3 i'd laugh more if i thought you were joking but im sure your serious.

[gus]

:lol3 :lol3 :lol3

I did come very close to the edge though mate...nearly saw your flashlight beam until andy & fish started throwing beer bottles & singing 'advance australia fair'


You have your chose of 3 luxury seating options. You can either be strapped to the:

1.) Front Bumper
2.) Back Bumper
3.) Roof

Congrats on a great camera. I look forward to seeing what you can do.

P.S. Bring goggles & a helmet for the trip. :D

Dave

[Andy]

I cant tell you how nice that 120-300 f/2.8 felt.

you won't be satisfied with 300mm. so, if it's gonna be a while till you can get a long L lens, then take a butcher's at that bigma again. you could cut yer teeth on that for a while... it's no slouch lens.

[Andy]

$7682.95 0z clams.....:lol3 i'd laugh more if i thought you were joking but im sure your serious.

ok let's do some math:

i just paid $1800 for 21mm of glass. that's $85 per mm. the 600mm f/4 is $6000, that's only $10 per mm, such a deal!

[dkapp]

:lol3 :lol3 :lol3

I did come very close to the edge though mate...nearly saw your flashlight beam until andy & fish started throwing beer bottles & singing 'advance australia fair'

I understand. They are very satisfied with Canon, and have every right to be. You couldn't go wrong with either, I'm just glad you got off you butt & did it.

Dave

[gus]

you won't be satisfied with 300mm. so, if it's gonna be a while till you can get a long L lens, then take a butcher's at that bigma again. you could cut yer teeth on that for a while... it's no slouch lens.
Sure....i have more research to do but i would love to find more bigma samples from a tripod. I am very used to tripods & would rather use one than not. Different to you i know.

[pathfinder]

you won't be satisfied with 300mm. so, if it's gonna be a while till you can get a long L lens, then take a butcher's at that bigma again. you could cut yer teeth on that for a while... it's no slouch lens.

The 120-300 f2.8 received nice reviews when it first came out - very nice article in Shutterbug. Looks like a very useful piece of glass.

But unfortunately, Andy is right, that 300mm is not very long. Long just begins at 400mm and goes on up. Been there, done that I'm afraid. Bigma maybe?
:D :huh

[Andy]

Sure....i have more research to do but i would love to find more bigma samples from a tripod. I am very used to tripods & would rather use one than not. Different to you i know.

bloody hell, mate - bigma shots from a tripod will only be better than the great samples you've already seen.....

[dkapp]

What about the Canon 100-400L, or the 400/5.6 L? I've read good reviews from some bird photographers.

Dave

[gus]

What about the Canon 100-400L, or the 400/5.6 L? I've read good reviews from some bird photographers.

DaveThe prime for sure...nice & sharp which is what im really chasing but as we all know that a zoom is a compromise & the prime is limited. I would look at the bigma over the 100-400 as i dont want IS (im a tripod user & lover always) We do get very good sunshine here for outside sports etc so the speed isnt such a worry.

Anyway...a good bit to read & try to choose.

[pathfinder]

What about the Canon 100-400L, or the 400/5.6 L? I've read good reviews from some bird photographers.

Dave

'gus - The 100-400 has always had kind of mixed reviews, but don't be to quick to write it off.

I took 2 L primes and the 100-400 to Bosque, and some of my best images were captured with the 100-400 with all its faults. For example, this image is almost full frame with 20D. One of the reasons it is so useful is that it is a 4 to 1 zoom range. Long zooms are powerful, but slow to move etc.

What is not to like about IS? I would not want a long glass without it.
http://pathfinder.smugmug.com/photos/17271250-L.jpg

[ian408]

'gus,

Wait till Yosemite and you can probably give a few of them a whirl before you
make a decision.

Ian

[Seamus]

Congrats Gus :thumb ,


Shay

[gubbs]

At last :rofl congtratulations me ole china :thumb

'gus if you do get refused by the SF - Yos Nikon express give me a shout :D

[gus]

At last :rofl congtratulations me ole china :thumb

'gus if you do get refused by the SF - Yos Nikon express give me a shout :D
Tks all...the one thing im really spinning about is having to start shooting raw. I dont even know where to start. I know why its done & thats about it.

Have to start the searching tomorrow.

[Michiel de Brieder]

finally!
:thumb congrats Gus!!! Make it shine boy :wink

[Michiel de Brieder]

Tks all...the one thing im really spinning about is having to start shooting raw. I dont even know where to start. I know why its done & thats about it.

Have to start the searching tomorrow. Set your camera to record RAW images, point, shoot. There you go :lol
Oh and, use DPP, breezebrowser, Adobe photoshop, C1 or RawShooter Essentials to convert your RAW files to something you can work on :wink

[gus]

take a butcher's at that bigma again. you could cut yer teeth on that for a while... it's no slouch lens.Hmmmm...
http://www.pbase.com/sigmasd9/image/14136019


not too shabby at 417 mm
http://www.pbase.com/sigmasd9/image/14136019




.

[gus]

Set your camera to record RAW images, point, shoot. There you go :lol
Oh and, use DPP, breezebrowser, Adobe photoshop, C1 or RawShooter Essentials to convert your RAW files to something you can work on :wink
Mate i still have great lumps of files floatin' round in my computer from my last 'raw' attempt.

Nothing will kill 'em.

[Andy]

have a go here, some 10-22 shots (http://www.sedasoft.com/gallery/display_section.asp?section=latest)

[wxwax]

have a go here, some 10-22 shots (http://www.sedasoft.com/gallery/display_section.asp?section=latest)
Some beautiful shots.

[DoctorIt]

Right on mate - 'bout frickin time you pulled the trigger!!! :clap :thumb

[DavidTO]

have a go here, some 10-22 shots (http://www.sedasoft.com/gallery/display_section.asp?section=latest)

I like his disclaimer:

Copyright © David Bosdet 2001-2005
All images and content on this page are the property of David Bosdet and are protected by U.K. and international copyright laws.
Reproduction in whole or in part in any form or medium without the express written permission of David Bosdet is prohibited.
In other words, if you steal my images, I'll come after you.

[fish]

Just put a deposit on a 20D.

Congrats, gus. Please don't sit it on the seat of yer GS. :lynn

[gus]

have a go here, some 10-22 shots (http://www.sedasoft.com/gallery/display_section.asp?section=latest)Probably the 1st lens i will buy for it.....god what have i gotten myself into. I cant stop reading & searching about the 135 L f/2 :cry

[Steve Cavigliano]

It's about time :thumb :thumb

You're gonna love it and FWIW, us Canon shooters still would have liked ya if you had gone Nikonian :rolleyes Not as much, but we'd still talk to you :lol :lol



Plus, just think of all the loaner glass that will be available up at Yosemite....lol


Can't wait to see some of your first pics with it:clap


Steve

[wxwax]

Probably the 1st lens i will buy for it.....god what have i gotten myself into. I cant stop reading & searching about the 135 L f/2 :cry
You can try mine at Yosemite.

[gus]

It's about time :thumb :thumb

You're gonna love it and FWIW, us Canon shooters still would have liked ya if you had gone Nikonian :rolleyes Not as much, but we'd still talk to you :lol :lol



Plus, just think of all the loaner glass that will be available up at Yosemite....lol


Can't wait to see some of your first pics with it:clap


Steve
Ta steve & ian..problem being that i wont have time to process & evaluate any stuff from yos to make a choice...i will prob ask a learned gentleman i know in the US to buy me something nice once i paypal him some ready.

[Andy]

Probably the 1st lens i will buy for it.....god what have i gotten myself into. I cant stop reading & searching about the 135 L f/2 :cry

here's one for $775 usd (http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/195316)

[gus]

You can try mine at Yosemite.You mongrel....really, you have one ? They are amazing....

[gus]

here's one for $775 usd (http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/195316)Mate i dont know what it is over there but no way do i pay 95% + for 2nd hand...that buy/sell forum is like pulling up a chair next to a bug zapper.

[wxwax]

Mate i dont know what it is over there but no way do i pay 95% + for 2nd hand...that buy/sell forum is like pulling up a chair next to a bug zapper.
It's $900 at B&H. You save $125, which is more than 10%. Plus shared shipping costs. If you don't do Paypal, you save some $$. If you do this with all your lenses, it adds up in a hurry.

And I gotta say, every lens save one that I've bought through FM has been indistinguishable from new.

So IMHO, I've saved hundreds of dollars for lenses that are essentially in new condition.

Natch, no legal warranty, which is prolly an issue all the way in Oz. But glass doesn't break down much, you know. :dunno

[Andy]

Mate i dont know what it is over there but no way do i pay 95% + for 2nd hand...that buy/sell forum is like pulling up a chair next to a bug zapper.

the better canon glass really holds it's value, 'gus. in some respects, it is what it is...

[ginger_55]

Look at it this way, gus, if it doesn't suit you, you can sell it for what you paid. The "used factor" was figured in when you bought it. Probably lose shipping costs or something, but that is one way to look at it.

ginger

I bought mine that way here, this spring. Just didn't see a way around it, and i saved a few bucks. Made some friends.........???

[gus]

Never any fear of losing money ginger...the 135 f/2 is $1546.83 USD here.

I could buy any lens & bring it back & make a profit. That said...i can buy some of the worlds most exotic birds for 20 bucks...a trade off really.

[Andy]

Never any fear of losing money ginger...the 135 f/2 is $1546.83 USD here.

I could buy any lens & bring it back & make a profit. That said...i can buy some of the worlds most exotic birds for 20 bucks...a trade off really.


here's another one, 'gus (http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/195346)

[gus]

here's another one, 'gus (http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/195346)Shouldnt you be out looking at cameras ?

[wxwax]

here's another one, 'gus (http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/195346)
$45 for shipping? He fell out of his tree and bonked his head.

[gus]

$45 for shipping? He fell out of his tree and bonked his head.Seriously if i saw some stuff there that i thought was ok priced i would buy it..as it does appear to be a very secure place to do biz. You just have to be very carefull not to frenzy buy...imagine if they had more cameras there...we'd never see andy again.

[wxwax]

Seriously if i saw some stuff there that i thought was ok priced i would buy it..as it does appear to be a very secure place to do biz. You just have to be very carefull not to frenzy buy...imagine if they had more cameras there...we'd never see andy again.
See, that's the thing. It sounds like what you consider a reasonable price for a used Canon L lens, is out of step with the market. The suckers really hold onto their value. Which, as Andy's discovering, is a good thing when you decide to sell them again.

[gus]

See, that's the thing. It sounds like what you consider a reasonable price for a used Canon L lens, is out of step with the market. The suckers really hold onto their value. Which, as Andy's discovering, is a good thing when you decide to sell them again.You can make it sound however you like.

[dkapp]

I agree w/ the FM comments here. I've bought & sold a lot of glass there & have never been disappointed.

My latest purchase there saved me $400-$500 on one lens. It was 2 weeks old, can't tell it from new.

This was a dream lens for me, but that sale put it in my price range. I've never been happier.

Dave

[DavidTO]

I've never been happier.

Dave

Really? That's the happiest moment of your life? The Disneyland moment, as it were....

Wow.

[gus]

Seriously i have no problem buying 2nd hand from someone whom can be spoken for...because its cheaper ..right ? Thats why we all do it for stuff thats currently avail off the shelf.

But as we have all seen with ebay & the likes..people can start to froth at the mouth & then its best to step back & take stock of exacly what the new price is. I have seen stuff go for less than 5% of new & thats not including postage.

I saved 20% off the price with putting the deposit on the 20D yesterday. Its got maybe 600 shots on it but is 'as new' with remaining local warranty...to me 20% is worth it.

Where's fish when you need a good argument over nothing other than peoples thoughts on the other side of the world.

[JohnR]

Why not just get this lens? :wink

http://www.dvinfo.net/canon/images/eos1200b.jpg

1200mm :huh

[luckyrwe]

It's a 1200/5.6, that means it will still AF with my 1.4x!

[gus]

That lens is $80K USD...if anyone sees it at $79 950 + shipping...let me know.

[luckyrwe]

If you buy it on a mileage credit card you get 8 round trip tickets in the US as well.