Dgrin Time incorrect?

[Seymore]

Looks like the DGRIN time clock(s) have not "fallen back". I just made a post and it still reflects an hour ahead of real time. Just an FYI at this time and point...

[ivar]

I'll see what I can do. Also moved this post to the Dgrin support forum.

[gus]

36 mins slow for me...like i care though. I just like to hand work to Ivar.

[Seymore]

I just like to hand work to Ivar.
Slacker!!! :D :wink


Let's see what the time stamp is on this post...

update: Still shows an hour fast on my end. BTW, I checked my system and profile setting before I reported this...

[Seymore]

Another quick time test...

Still 60mins fast...

[Seymore]

It looks like that got it! I refreshed and it reflected properly.

Thanks Ivar! :clap

[Seymore]

Checking the time stamp again because I noticed it was back to running fast on another post, again. Maybe the new server clocks are not sync'd?


YEP... They're an hour fast again. Ivar?

[patch29]

Checking the time stamp again because I noticed it was back to running fast on another post, again. Maybe the new server clocks are not sync'd?


YEP... They're an hour fast again. Ivar?


Users can modify the time displayed in the control panel (You!), then choose the correct Date & Time Options.

[Seymore]

Users can modify the time displayed in the control panel (You!), then choose the correct Date & Time Options.
Did that. It's an issue with the DGRIN servers.

[DavidTO]

It's right on the money for me. :dunno

[Seymore]

I'm seeing you posted at 1:58pm. Look at the time stamp on your message. Is that what time it is in TO? It's 1pm (now) here.

[DavidTO]

I'm seeing you posted at 1:58pm. Look at the time stamp on your message. Is that what time it is in TO? It's 1pm (now) here.
http://myskitch.com/davidrosenthal/dgrin_time_incorrect__-_digital_grin_photography_forum-20071116-130101.jpg

[Seymore]

I suspect it may be one specific server, that is hosting for the PNW, that is off...

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/222107284-L.jpg

[DavidTO]

hmmm....

You can log onto www.digitalgrin.com
www.dgrin.com
dgrin.com
digitalgrin.com

Not sure if they're different servers or not, but I'm on www.dgrin.com. Maybe try that? :dunno

[Seymore]

I'm also on www.dgrin.com, but there are many servers that point to the same URL. I just want to call this to the attention of the SM/DGRIN geeks to get this corrected. I dealt with Ivar previously and the problem was corrected. I believe it all has to to do with the week offset of DST that happened this year in USA.

[David_S85]

Seymore, please try this in your control panel:

Automatically detect DST settings: set to NO

Is DST currently in effect?: set to NO

You had it at YES for both.

[Seymore]

OK... But I've not changed a thing, ever. Hence it's a bug in SM! Currently "DST Correction Option:" is set to Auto Detect. So if I change it now then I'll have to change it again in the Spring. Me and everyone else who has not yet discovered this BUG. Naaaaaaaa... the geeks need to figure out what this prob is and rectify it. It's NOT a problem on my end. OK?

[Andy]

Hence it's a bug in SM!
?

[Andy]

. It's NOT a problem on my end. OK?
I'm so sorry Seymore, the system appears to be working just right for all of us here. I wish I had a better answer for you, but I don't :dunno

we are getting the accurate timestamps.

[Skippy]

It's right on the money for me. :dunno

Times right for me too and I'm on the other side of the globe :D
... Skippy
.

[Seymore]

I'm so sorry Seymore, the system appears to be working just right for all of us here. I wish I had a better answer for you, but I don't :dunno

we are getting the accurate timestamps.
OK... I'll respond here Andy and take a snap to see if everything is ok. BTW, it's 12:05am here as I type this. Let's see if everything is ok...

--- I don't know. I'm just reporting what I'm seeing Andy and I've changed nothing in my DGRIN setting.

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/222607918-L.jpg

[Seymore]

With this post I logged into www.digitalgrin.com. Let's see if the time stamp is ok here...

UPDATE: Nope Shows 1:15am where the time here is actually 12:15am.

[Seymore]

With this one I turned off DST, manually.

UPDATE: and it shows properly. Something wrong with the AUTO aspect of setting DST in the DGRIN servers. It only works, for me, in manual mode. So in the spring I need to turn DST back on in the control panel? Auto worked will we had the offset in DST, per the Govt.

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/222609737-L.jpg

[Mike Lane]

With this one I turned off DST, manually.

UPDATE: and it shows properly. Something wrong with the AUTO aspect of setting DST in the DGRIN servers. It only works, for me, in manual mode. So in the spring I need to turn DST back on in the control panel? Auto worked will we had the offset in DST, per the Govt.

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/222609737-L.jpgSo you figured it out?

As a side note, you may find your browsing experience better if you turned on your cleartype text. :deal

[Seymore]

So you figured it out?

As a side note, you may find your browsing experience better if you turned on your cleartype text. :deal
It's still what I see as a DGRIN bug, and something that should be totally transparent to the end-user. And I shouldn't have to make any changes to my setting for DST. That is a server function.

"turned on your cleartype text"? Please explain...

[Andy]

It's still what I see as a DGRIN bug, and something that should be totally transparent to the end-user. And I shouldn't have to make any changes to my setting for DST. That is a server function.

"turned on your cleartype text"? Please explain...
I'm sorry but I disagree. If we had this bug, I'm guessing that hundreds of Dgrinners would be jumping down my throat :lol3

I'm sorry that it's not working right for you - I hope that you're able to sort it out soon? What else can we do to help you?

[Seymore]

I'm sorry but I disagree. If we had this bug, I'm guessing that hundreds of Dgrinners would be jumping down my throat :lol3

I'm sorry that it's not working right for you - I hope that you're able to sort it out soon? What else can we do to help you?
Well, I see all these "improvements", but I don't see specific (minor) issues taken quite as seriously. And if I see it, but you don't, you belittle me by saying that I'm lying (what I hear you saying to me) and it's not a bug! If only one person sees a problem, doesn't mean it not a bug. Means that it is only affecting one person. But it's still a bug and something that I CAN'T fix permanently!

Yes Andy, there is one more thing you can do for me... Explain why the AUTO aspect of the DST doesn't work for me. I can make the changes manually, but this should not something I should have to worry about and should be transparent to me. It was only since the week delay of DST that I observed this problem. I also dealt with Ivar, via PM, when this first started up. Maybe he made some change on my specific setting that were ONLY reflected on my acct? Have you contacted him and asked any questions? Prior to all of this (DST) I had no issues.

[Andy]

Well, I see all these "improvements", but I don't see specific (minor) issues taken quite as seriously. And if I see it, but you don't, you belittle me by saying that I'm lying (what I hear you saying to me) and it's not a bug! If only one person sees a problem, doesn't mean it not a bug. Means that it is only affecting one person. But it's still a bug and something that I CAN'T fix permanently!

Yes Andy, there is one more thing you can do for me... Explain why the AUTO aspect of the DST doesn't work for me. I can make the changes manually, but this should not something I should have to worry about and should be transparent to me. It was only since the week delay of DST that I observed this problem. I also dealt with Ivar, via PM, when this first started up. Maybe he made some change on my specific setting that were ONLY reflected on my acct? Have you contacted him and asked any questions? Prior to all of this (DST) I had no issues.
Seymore, I'm really sorry you take everything that I the wrong way :(

I don't belittle my customers or our forum members. Period.

I'm really sorry you feel this way, Seymore. I'm really sorry that you have this problem with your time stamp.

If I could fix this, I would - if there was something to fix.

But honestly, and truly, this is about the lowest priority on my list, because only one person is telling me it's busted. And you insist it is a bug but nobody's reproducing it. So what am I supposed to do? Find someone to reproduce it, and I'll be on it.

For now, I'm moving on, Seymore, until someone tells me this is a reproducible thing and can show me the steps.

Again, I'm sorry that you take offense at this, and I'm sorry Dgrin forum software isn't working for you as it is supposed to.

I'd really like to help but I'm out of answers for you until you can show me a way to reproduce it. I'm really, really sorry.

[Mike Lane]

It's still what I see as a DGRIN bug, and something that should be totally transparent to the end-user. And I shouldn't have to make any changes to my setting for DST. That is a server function.

"turned on your cleartype text"? Please explain...I'll let the internets do my talking :thumb

Microsoft's guide to how to setup cleartype for windows xp (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306527)
Wikipedia entry on cleartype (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ClearType)

[Seymore]

Mike... I'm not running XP, so I can't use this. But thanks for the education.

[Mike Lane]

Mike... I'm not running XP, so I can't use this. But thanks for the education.What are you running?

[Seymore]

What are you running?
W2k/SP4 on a P4-3ghz with 1.5G of RAM and a 21" CRT. It does what I need it to do.

[DoctorIt]

It does what I need it to do.Mate, no need to get defensive, Mike's trying to help you fix a problem that can't be duplicated anywhere but your desk.

Maybe you should just get a Mac. :hide

[ivar]

Hey Seymore,

set the automatic detection to 'yes' and clear all your (dgrin) cookies. Then, log in again, see if that does the trick?

Also, please check your computer's DST settings. This is where Dgrin gets the info from.

[DavidTO]

Hey, Seymore, as you figure this thing out, I just want to point out that you don't need to post to check on it, as the time is displayed at the bottom of the dgrin page, like this:

http://myskitch.com/davidrosenthal/dgrin_time_incorrect__-_page_2_-_digital_grin_photography_forum-20071119-094250.jpg

[Mike Lane]

Hey, Seymore, as you figure this thing out, I just want to point out that you don't need to post to check on it, as the time is displayed at the bottom of the dgrin page, like this:

http://myskitch.com/davidrosenthal/dgrin_time_incorrect__-_page_2_-_digital_grin_photography_forum-20071119-094250.jpgHey, speaking of which, you didn't accidentally change your time zone in the dgrin control panel did you? Just thinking of reasons this could have happened.

[bwg]

W2k/SP4 on a P4-3ghz with 1.5G of RAM and a 21" CRT. It does what I need it to do.Except recognize the new DST settings.

from this MS KB article : http://support.microsoft.com/gp/dst_topissues

Windows 2000 has passed the end of Mainstream Support and will not be receiving an update without Extended Hotfix Support.
All versions of Windows can be manually updated by using the tzedit.exe utility or other techniques documented in Knowledge Base article 914387, Online Webcast 930688, and similar articles for other countries. That is the preferred method of remediation for any product outside of Mainstream Support. (The tzedit.exe tool allows you to create and edit time zone entries for the Date/Time settings in Control Panel, especially for daylight saving time.)

[Mike Lane]

Except recognize the new DST settings.

from this MS KB article : http://support.microsoft.com/gp/dst_topissues:lol3 Well I guess that is sorted.

[Seymore]

Except recognize the new DST settings.

from this MS KB article : http://support.microsoft.com/gp/dst_topissues
I ran the MS update for W2k already. Did that before the orig DST was supposed to occur. But I'll let this thread die at this point. It's apparent to me that Andy doesn't have time for one W2k user. I don't have this issue at any other forums I attend. But most of them are not as big a DGRIN or quite as tweaked.


@ Mike... Nope everything is right in the control panel and on my system. I've not changed a thing.


@ Ivar... I'll give that a shot and see if anything is corrected. Thanks...

[Andy]

It's apparent to me that Andy doesn't have time for one W2k user.

Hi Seymore, please don't twist the issue. I'm not sure what I could do for you (and anyone else running Windows 2000)? If I had a way to fix you up I'd be all over it like nobody's business. If you have the fix, and it's reasonable wrt the rest of the 99.99% of the community that doesn't have this problem, I'll work on it. Let me know, anything to make this issue go away for you.

[Allen]

Running win2KP here and it changed with DST. Ran no M$ update junk either.

Just go into your profile and change the GMT +1 or -1 twice a year. Simple,
easy and the other 363 days do nuthin.:D

[Seymore]

Al... you're aware that the Govt implemented a change as to WHEN DST is changed now, right? So did you note that the DST changed on your machine with the old date or the new date?

[Andy]

Al... you're aware that the Govt implemented a change as to WHEN DST is changed now, right? So did you note that the DST changed on your machine with the old date or the new date?
Seymore I got your pm, and this has now gotten to something where you are impacting my ability to serve the rest of Dgrin and SmugMug customers, effectively. Post here in thread, or don't post at all, that's okay. But I can't deal with this issue in this manner any more, Seymore.

I have stated that if I had a way to fix this for you, or if you could give me a way to fix it, we'd surely do it. And I meant that :)

Again, I'm terribly sorry that this issue affects you so. I'm so sorry that I dont have a fix.

Seymore, I'm really, really, Sorry.