Assignment #57: Duotone Portrait

[Nikolai]

Let's make it simple again: I't gotta be a portrait, and it's gotta be a duotone.
There is a catch, though: no black-and-white and no "sepia" are allowed. :deal
Each entry should consist of two images: one original color one (SOOC jpeg or very basic conversion from RAW) and one post-processed into a duotone.
As always, images should be fresh.

Let's get some nice duotone portrait!

[Ann McRae]

Let's make it simple again: I't gotta be a portrait, and it's gotta be a duotone.
There is a catch, though: no black-and-white and no "sepia" are allowed. :deal
Each entry should consist of two images: one original color one (SOOC jpeg or very basic conversion from RAW) and one post-processed into a duotone.
As always, images should be fresh.

Let's get some nice duotone portrait!


So, Nik, explain how fresh is fresh? I have a shot from Wednesday that I haven't converted yet, that I might like to try this with.

[Nikolai]

So, Nik, explain how fresh is fresh? I have a shot from Wednesday that I haven't converted yet, that I might like to try this with.
Well, in our class "fresh" means you learn about the assignment first and then shoot with it in mind. The idea is to give people incentive to go out and shoot, not to go through the archives.

You can try to use your Wednesday results, but please be aware there will be no prize for that... Wait a sec... We don't have prizes anyway :lol3

So, why don't you start with what you have already, and then maybe shoot more and post the really fresh one? :wink

[Izzy Garavito]

Hey Nik, no tritones or quadtones, i'm guessing?

[Nikolai]

Hey Nik, no tritones or quadtones, i'm guessing?
Not for this one :-) :wink

[Antonio Correia]

http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/photos/217124159-M.jpg http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/photos/217121038-M.jpg
With flash of course ! :wink
Two hours ago. May be not that much ! :D

[Nikolai]

With flash of course ! :winkTwo hours ago. May be not that much ! :D

Man.... :bash


...no black-and-white and no "sepia" are allowed...


:rolleyes

[Antonio Correia]

Man.... :bash



:rolleyes
This is no sepia ! :huh

[Antonio Correia]

This is no sepia ! :huh
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/47/Neighborhood_watch_sepia.jpg sepia is this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Neighborhood_watch_sepia.jpg).
Mine more redish ! I knew it and was aware of your intention !
May be it's the monitor

[Antonio Correia]

http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/photos/217207387-M.jpg This is color
http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/photos/217202086-M.jpg This is not black and white
http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/photos/217206322-M.jpg

[Nikolai]

This is not black and white


Thank you!

Now, apart from shifting the Hue slider away from it's default brownish position, how would you justify this particular hue for this particular shot?

Please rememeber: we don't do this just to comply with my (or somebody else's :-) silly rules. We want to improve our skills and vision while staying withing certain parameters.

So, with that in mind: why pinkinsh/purple? :scratch

[Antonio Correia]

Thank you!

Now, apart from shifting the Hue slider away from it's default brownish position, how would you justify this particular hue for this particular shot?

Please rememeber: we don't do this just to comply with my (or somebody else's :-) silly rules. We want to improve our skills and vision while staying withing certain parameters.

So, with that in mind: why pinkinsh/purple? :scratch
Nikolai,
It's not very nice, is it ?
Kind of strange ... :wink
:D

[Antonio Correia]

http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/photos/217207387-M.jpg .http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/photos/217309621-M.jpg

[Nikolai]

blue tint
*I* like this better! :thumb
But I still would love to hear *your* reasoning - why this tint...:scratch

[Antonio Correia]

*I* like this better! :thumb
But I still would love to hear *your* reasoning - why this tint...:scratch

No sepia or near, no black and white or near.
Why not any other ? :dunno
:thumb

[Izzy Garavito]

Here's mine. The eyes are for extra credit lol

http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs21/i/2007/308/c/b/Dala_by_IzzyGaravito.jpg


Duotone: Brown and Gray


http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs20/i/2007/308/8/2/Dala_duotone_by_IzzyGaravito.jpg


Black and White used:


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2018/1863686075_38c5e5f0f4.jpg


Make: Canon
Model: Canon EOS 30D
Shutter Speed: 1/1600 second
F Number: F/4.0
Focal Length: 28 mm
ISO Speed: 800
Date Picture Taken: Nov 4, 2007, 12:50:15 PM

[DavidTO]

Izzy, that is not duotone, it's selective color! :deal

A duotone is a black and white image to which another color is added. In PS you first convert an image to grayscale , then to duotone (Mode>Duotone), where you can select the 2nd color and the blend. :thumb

[i_worship_the_King]

that lab is gorgeous! Too bad my australian shepherd is afraid of the shutter click :(

[Izzy Garavito]

Izzy, that is not duotone, it's selective color! :deal

A duotone is a black and white image to which another color is added. In PS you first convert an image to grayscale , then to duotone (Mode>Duotone), where you can select the 2nd color and the blend. :thumb


Hey David, tell me if I'm wrong:

This is how I did it:

Mode-greyscale
mode-duotone
load: /presets/duotones/duotones/etc. and chose one. i'll post a B&W Image for comparison.

Is that how you get duotone?

[Izzy Garavito]

that lab is gorgeous! Too bad my australian shepherd is afraid of the shutter click :(


Haha thanks a ton. I had to chase her around for a while before she settled down and I could get a few shots. then she got bored and spread herself on the floor for the pic.

[DavidTO]

Hey David, tell me if I'm wrong:

This is how I did it:

Mode-greyscale
mode-duotone
load: /presets/duotones/duotones/etc. and chose one. i'll post a B&W Image for comparison.

Is that how you get duotone?


The eyes are full color, no? :ear

[Izzy Garavito]

They are. I converted greyscale image to duotone. then I pasted a layer of the full color image underneath the new duotone image, masked the duotone image and just poked holes in the eyes so the color image showed up.

Not sure If it'll be acceptable to Nik :dunno But I can just take off the eyes then. Would it qualify without the color in the eyes?

[Nikolai]

Would it qualify without the color in the eyes?
Yep :-)

[saurora]

I used the same steps (I think!) as David, but when I try to save it I can only save it as a PSD file.....what did I do wrong? :scratch

P.S. sorry.........used the duotone that Izzy used but converted to grayscale first.....

[Izzy Garavito]

I used the same steps (I think!) as David, but when I try to save it I can only save it as a PSD file.....what did I do wrong? :scratch

P.S. sorry.........used the duotone that Izzy used but converted to grayscale first.....

Go Back to Image->modes->RGB

That should do it :D

[NanaMo]

The more I get to roam around the forums the more fun topics I find! Here is my first try at both the assignments and duotone.....:wink.

Black and Pantone 3945 C...hope I did OK also...really looking forward to that big prize!! :barbLOL!!


http://PoirierPics.smugmug.com/photos/218884922-L.jpg
(http://poirierpics.smugmug.com/photos/newexif.mg?ImageID=218884922)


http://PoirierPics.smugmug.com/photos/218885073-L.jpg
(http://poirierpics.smugmug.com/photos/newexif.mg?ImageID=218885073)

Click on photos for exif data...oops...my camera is still on Beijing time! Gotta run and fix that....

Thanks,
Maureen

[Nikolai]

The more I get to roam around the forums the more fun topics I find! Here is my first try at both the assignments and duotone.....:wink.

Black and Pantone 3945 C...hope I did OK also...really looking forward to that big prize!! :barbLOL!!

Click on photos for exif data...oops...my camera is still on Beijing time! Gotta run and fix that....

Thanks,
Maureen
Welcome to the Class!
Thank you for the entry! :thumb
It's a duotone alright, but I'm having a really hard time calling this image "a portrait"... :wink

[NanaMo]

Welcome to the Class!
Thank you for the entry! :thumb
It's a duotone alright, but I'm having a really hard time calling this image "a portrait"... :wink

Yes, about 2:45am it dawned on me that I got caught up in learning the process and forgot it should be a portrait :scratch duh, .....back to the drawing board. Sounds like you think the process is proper....now I just have to find a face!

Thanks Nik!

[Jack'll do]

First assignment I'm participating in. What a great way to learn more techniques. I've never done this before so I took some older images of two of our dogs to practice with (will get a "new" portrait tomorrow to submit for the record. Here are the first attempts. I don't like the ilght patch on Barney's cheek. It looks like he has a skin condition which he doesn't, C&C solicited

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c107/Jack_n_Lisa/Pets/DSCN0017.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c107/Jack_n_Lisa/Pets/Duotone/Rosie.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c107/Jack_n_Lisa/Pets/DSC_0021.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c107/Jack_n_Lisa/Pets/Duotone/Barney.jpg

[Nikolai]

Thank you Jack! :thumb
I take it as a "portrait", but it's too close to sepia to accept it as a valid entry. :dunno

[saurora]

This isn't a valid entry as the shot is not fresh. I shot this a couple of weeks ago. I won't get a chance to shoot before this weekend, I'll try to post another then. But I wanted to try duotone, which I have not done. Well, not with the Photoshop layers. One thing I noticed is that every color from yellow through red makes an image look sepia. All of the blues and cyans made the image look like a black and white. Well, that left pink, purple and green which just don't cut it for me! :rofl I wanted something that would enhance my nephew's somber expression, so I used a dark burgundy. I'm not real happy with the outcome...I really prefer the original version. It looks burgundy in my gallery, but I have this feeling by the time it is posted in this thread it will somehow turn sepia! :D

http://saurora.smugmug.com/photos/216218727-L-3.jpg

http://saurora.smugmug.com/photos/218032333-L.jpg

[fashiznitsngrins]

... but I have this feeling by the time it is posted in this thread it will somehow turn sepia! :D





it doesn't look sepia, but after having just tried a few myself, I stopped because I have to agree that pretty much all the warm colors tend to look sepia-ish and all the cool colors look b/w-ish.

Any tips anyone?

[Nikolai]

This isn't a valid entry as the shot is not fresh.
Darn, Susan.. if not one, then the other :-) Oh well, hopefully you'll get something that would qualify 100% :wink :-)

[Nikolai]

it doesn't look sepia, but after having just tried a few myself, I stopped because I have to agree that pretty much all the warm colors tend to look sepia-ish and all the cool colors look b/w-ish.

Any tips anyone?

Green; blue; hot pink; red; dark purple;..
The list goes on and on :wink

[fashiznitsngrins]

Green; blue; hot pink; red; dark purple;..
The list goes on and on :wink

Okay, so how about this?
http://1anda2.smugmug.com/photos/219217446-M.jpg
http://1anda2.smugmug.com/photos/219216621-M.jpg

Does it look like Sepia or like Pantone 1625M? The photo is too dark to work with any dark or vivid colors like hot pink. Should I try another shot?

[saurora]

it doesn't look sepia, but after having just tried a few myself, I stopped because I have to agree that pretty much all the warm colors tend to look sepia-ish and all the cool colors look b/w-ish.

Any tips anyone?

Yeah, I like warm colors myself (especially for portraits) so that's probably why I'm not keen on this burgundy (or pink, blue and purple for that matter!). After doing this "duotone" I just did an adjustment layer and used a color fill and chose 'overlay' and adjusted sliders to taste. You get a lot more 'colors' to work with and you can adjust the intensity. Did you use the curves boxes in the duotone option? I didn't have much luck there....

Sorry Nik! Like I said, I'll try to get something 'fresh' this weekend. My shooting time has been almost 'nil' lately. :cry

[Jack'll do]

Thank you Jack! :thumb
I take it as a "portrait", but it's too close to sepia to accept it as a valid entry. :dunno
Ah that's why I wanted to submit them before taking a current photo to work on. So I take that you can't use brown or mauve as the second color (after you convert to grayscale). But if I used a red as below that would be OK?

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c107/Jack_n_Lisa/Pets/Duotone/Rosie4a.jpg

[frg]

all processing in lightroom
Original cropped adjusted clarity slider
http://francis.smugmug.com/photos/219273445-L.jpg

Used grayscale then split tone slider
http://francis.smugmug.com/photos/219273345-L.jpg

[toddharmon]

Let's make it simple again: I't gotta be a portrait, and it's gotta be a duotone.
There is a catch, though: no black-and-white and no "sepia" are allowed. :deal
Each entry should consist of two images: one original color one (SOOC jpeg or very basic conversion from RAW) and one post-processed into a duotone.
As always, images should be fresh.

Let's get some nice duotone portrait!

Not sure if this qualifies.... the "duotone" version is a desaturated b&w combined with a high contrasted "glow" version of the original... I call it "antique"... sort of stumbled upon the effect, and I liked it. All C&C welcome! :D



http://toddharmon.smugmug.com/photos/218711887-M-1.jpg

http://toddharmon.smugmug.com/photos/218711843-M-1.jpg

[Nikolai]

Okay, so how about this?

Does it look like Sepia or like Pantone 1625M? The photo is too dark to work with any dark or vivid colors like hot pink. Should I try another shot?

The shot is lovely, but yes, it does look sepia-ish. Something hotter/cooler, maybe?

[Nikolai]

Ah that's why I wanted to submit them before taking a current photo to work on. So I take that you can't use brown or mauve as the second color (after you convert to grayscale). But if I used a red as below that would be OK?

Maybe it's my eyes or my monitor, but it still has that brownish flavour to me. Hotter red, maybe?

[Nikolai]

all processing in lightroom
Original cropped adjusted clarity slider
Used grayscale then split tone slider

Lovely! Thank you very much, nice entry!

[Nikolai]

Not sure if this qualifies.... the "duotone" version is a desaturated b&w combined with a high contrasted "glow" version of the original... I call it "antique"... sort of stumbled upon the effect, and I liked it. All C&C welcome! :D

It's surely a nice effect, but
1) it's not exactly a duotone, and
2) it's too close to sepia anyway :dunno
Nice shot, though! :thumb

[Jack'll do]

Maybe it's my eyes or my monitor, but it still has that brownish flavour to me. Hotter red, maybe?

OK OK here you go. How's this?

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c107/Jack_n_Lisa/Pets/Duotone/RosiePurple.jpg

[Nikolai]

OK OK here you go. How's this?

:thumb

[entropysedge]

Here's my try at this one:

http://www.entropysedge.com/thewall1copy.jpg

http://www.entropysedge.com/thewall3copy.jpg

[Nikolai]

Here's my try at this one:

Thank you! :thumb
I can see duotone :D , but I can't see portrait :dunno

[entropysedge]

This more like it?

http://www.entropysedge.com/Morticia4ab.jpg

http://www.entropysedge.com/Morticia4acopy.jpg

:D



gonna have to get something to sit in front of my camera besides motor vehicles 9which is all I've been shooting lately)

[Nikolai]

This more like it?

:D

gonna have to get something to sit in front of my camera besides motor vehicles 9which is all I've been shooting lately)

Uhm, thanks, but I never in my life have seen such a colorful duotine.. :dunno
What's your treatment? :scratch

[entropysedge]

Hhmm, I see what you mean... what was I thinking? I had used channel mixer on monochrome but ... I had greyscaled it but then couldn't seem to figure out how to get color back in.

http://www.entropysedge.com/Morticia4ccopy.jpg

I took the same image and worked on getting the green out of the eyes using hue/saturation.


I think my inexperience in PS3 is showing big time ...

[Nikolai]

Hhmm, I see what you mean... what was I thinking? I had used channel mixer on monochrome but ... I had greyscaled it but then couldn't seem to figure out how to get color back in.

I took the same image and worked on getting the green out of the eyes using hue/saturation.


I think my inexperience in PS3 is showing big time ...

I see... No, unfortunately it's not duotone.
If you're in CS3, the easiest way is to use Black and White adjustment layer and set the hue.
In CS2 and before you can use Hue/Saturation|Colorize or Image|Mode|Duotone .

HTH

[Llywellyn]

Babies are supposed to be pink, right...? :wink

Original
http://www.theoriginalblackcat.com/photos/220399575-M.jpg

Duotone
http://blackcatphoto.smugmug.com/photos/220655945-M.jpg

[entropysedge]

I see... No, unfortunately it's not duotone.
If you're in CS3, the easiest way is to use Black and White adjustment layer and set the hue.
In CS2 and before you can use Hue/Saturation|Colorize or Image|Mode|Duotone .

HTH

Here is my try using Black and white adjustment:

http://www.entropysedge.com/Morticia7.jpg

[bham]

http://mcleod.smugmug.com/photos/220940301-L-1.jpg http://mcleod.smugmug.com/photos/220928581-L-2.jpg

[z_28]

OK, let's try Assignment #57 :scratch

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t247/CameraSouth/IMG_9241_a1.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t247/CameraSouth/IMG_9241_a3.jpg



Bonus B&W frame, especially for Nikolai :D
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t247/CameraSouth/IMG_9241_a2.jpg

[Nikolai]

Here is my try using Black and white adjustment:

I'm not sure what else did you do to this image, but it still shows a lot of different colors. I downloaded a copy and converted it to LAB. Duotone should have had a razor-thin histogram in A/B channels. Yours is narrow, but still is spread enough to not qualify as a duotone conversion... :dunno

[Nikolai]

bride
Scott, this is a nice shot, but it is too close to BW to count for credit for this class :wink

[Nikolai]

Babies are supposed to be pink, right...? :wink

Totally! Thank you! :thumb

[Nikolai]

OK, let's try Assignment #57 :scratch






Z, sorry man, too close to B&W.. Need more distinct color flavor :deal

[Pexi]

Original (exif (http://pexi.smugmug.com/photos/newexif.mg?ImageID=221108229)):
http://pexi.smugmug.com/photos/221108229-M.jpg

And then, as seen through my rosy glasses :lust :D

http://pexi.smugmug.com/photos/221106405-M.jpg

[Nikolai]

Original (exif (http://pexi.smugmug.com/photos/newexif.mg?ImageID=221108229)):
And then, as seen through my rosy glasses :lust :D

Nice! :thumb
You're getting all sorts of stuff from this show, don't you:-) :wink

[z_28]

Z, sorry man, too close to B&W.. Need more distinct color flavor :deal

For me subtle duotone is way much better than redneck's tint :D

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t247/CameraSouth/IMG_9241_a2.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t247/CameraSouth/IMG_9241_a3.jpg

[Pexi]

Nice! :thumb
You're getting all sorts of stuff from this show, don't you:-) :wink

:nod , but I promise, this was the last one. :bread.

[entropysedge]

I'm not sure what else did you do to this image, but it still shows a lot of different colors. I downloaded a copy and converted it to LAB. Duotone should have had a razor-thin histogram in A/B channels. Yours is narrow, but still is spread enough to not qualify as a duotone conversion... :dunno

I think I've figured this out! (forgive my denseness)

http://www.entropysedge.com/Morticia8.jpg


:D

[Nikolai]

I think I've figured this out! (forgive my denseness)
:D
Yay! Congrats! :clap

[Pupator]

Daphne (my wife) had taken Toby's duck away after he ripped open his mouth and pulled the stuffing out. Tonight she had a chance to sew it up and he got his duck back. The tone is based on the duck's feet.

http://paulsclicks.smugmug.com/photos/221523629-M.jpg

[Nikolai]

Daphne (my wife) had taken Toby's duck away after he ripped open his mouth and pulled the stuffing out. Tonight she had a chance to sew it up and he got his duck back. The tone is based on the duck's feet.


Thank you! :thumb

[spb13]

I wasn't sure how to go from B&W to duotone, luckily there was a section about doing it in the PSE book I have sitting next to me.

http://spb13.smugmug.com/photos/259993968_Jn8YR-L.jpg
exif (http://spb13.smugmug.com/photos/newexif.mg?ImageID=259993968&ImageKey=Jn8YR)

Original.

http://spb13.smugmug.com/photos/259621841_7niFT-L.jpg

[Nikolai]

I wasn't sure how to go from B&W to duotone, luckily there was a section about doing it in the PSE book I have sitting next to me.

Thanks, Sean, exactly what doctor's ordered! :thumb