Andy's Un-Official Unsolicited Mac Advice Thread [Sitemap] - Page 10

Ann McRae

Nov-03-2007, 04:11 PM

I actually think that Mike is saying it will work. Do you have other computers hooked up?
We have the wireless router through the PC desktop, and it feeds my mac and 2 laptops as well.

The iMac hs a whole wack of ports on the back - headphone, mivrophone, 3 usb, 2 that I haven't figured out, one for a network cable, and one for plugging in a second monitor. Plus 2 more usb on the keyboard.

ann

No you got it i think. So the D-link wireless ethernet USB devise that i have wont work on the Mac your saying & to have the Mac with wireless i need to shell out $250 clams...correct ?

gus

Nov-03-2007, 04:21 PM

nonono... I'm saying that the mac will have built in networking which means you won't need that dlink device. But if you're keen to go wireless (not required) you can do that with a wirless router too. But you don't have to, you can just plug in your router to your mac with an ethernet cable (10 base T).

no no no non on nopno non nopno nn onononnonon

I need wireless, i want wireless...i have a wireless router...i have one PC currently running wireless on it and one plugged into the router.

Can i use a generic USB ethernet card such as the D-link (i have 2 of them)on the imac or do i have to shell out for the airport named one ?

DavidTO

Nov-03-2007, 04:33 PM

Gus,

Your link isn't working for me, but I'm going to assume that you're asking about this (http://www.apple.com/imac/specs.html) Mac, which has WiFi and Bluetooth built in, so it should work out of the box with your wireless router, no problem.

Ann McRae

Nov-03-2007, 04:34 PM

The iMac has the wireless card built in - it will pick up the signal from your existing router. No $ necessary!

no no no non on nopno non nopno nn onononnonon

I need wireless, i want wireless...i have a wireless router...i have one PC currently running wireless on it and one plugged into the router.

Can i use a generic USB ethernet card such as the D-link (i have 2 of them)on the imac or do i have to shell out for the airport named one ?

Ann McRae

Nov-03-2007, 04:35 PM

My new set up

http://canadian-ann.smugmug.com/photos/216847775-M.jpg

Just for grins

Elaine

Nov-03-2007, 04:37 PM

My new set up

Just for grins

Turning green over here! :rolleyes

gus

Nov-03-2007, 04:46 PM

Got it tks guys.

DavidTO

Nov-03-2007, 04:57 PM

Got it tks guys.

Pretty much any hardware question you have about that machine will be answered on that page I linked. Unless it just doesn't make sense to you, in which case let us know.

pathfinder

Nov-03-2007, 09:40 PM

Got it tks guys.

I think all macs can come with WiFi gus.

My Mac Mini is set up to access my network wirelessly via my DLINK router with WiFi -- as are my laptops.

What is really cool, is a network printer that is wifi enabled. Then you can print from any computer on your network to the printer. ANd the printer does not have any wires except a 110 volt power plug.

Gus, is the voltage and CPS 11V 60cycles in Australia, or is your home electric power different than in the US?

DavidTO

Nov-03-2007, 10:01 PM

I think all macs can come with WiFi gus.

Not the MacPros! It's an option on them. :dunno

I was pretty frustrated about it at work, I got a wireless KB and mouse, all excited about using with my MacPro at work. No go. Had to buy a Bluetooth adapter. And the adapters won't wake the Mac from sleep, as the built-ins will. :cry I guess the techs at work figured I wouldn't need it. And, I guess, I didn't really NEED it. :D

pathfinder

Nov-03-2007, 11:02 PM

Not the MacPros! It's an option on them. :dunno

I was pretty frustrated about it at work, I got a wireless KB and mouse, all excited about using with my MacPro at work. No go. Had to buy a Bluetooth adapter. And the adapters won't wake the Mac from sleep, as the built-ins will. :cry I guess the techs at work figured I wouldn't need it. And, I guess, I didn't really NEED it. :D

I said CAN come - not DO come :deal :D

My Power Mac doe not have it, but I have the antenna to add it, if I wanted to add it.

gus

Nov-03-2007, 11:14 PM

Gus, is the voltage and CPS 11V 60cycles in Australia, or is your home electric power different than in the US?
Its all standard household power is 240 volt 50 cycles here. Except for the people that req 3 phase & that is 415 volts.

bigwebguy

Nov-04-2007, 06:39 AM

Not the MacPros! It's an option on them. :dunno

I was pretty frustrated about it at work, I got a wireless KB and mouse, all excited about using with my MacPro at work. No go. Had to buy a Bluetooth adapter. And the adapters won't wake the Mac from sleep, as the built-ins will. :cry I guess the techs at work figured I wouldn't need it. And, I guess, I didn't really NEED it. :D

WiFi = wireless internets (networking)
Bluetooth = short range wireless for your mouse and such.

not the same thing. not the same card in your mac pro.

DavidTO

Nov-04-2007, 07:19 AM

WiFi = wireless internets (networking)
Bluetooth = short range wireless for your mouse and such.

not the same thing. not the same card in your mac pro.

:rolleyes

I know that! Sheesh, just tellin' a story!

( It was misleading how I wrote that, though. WiFi and Bluetooth are options on the highest end Macs. Go figure, all that money and you gotta pay extra for them.)

bigwebguy

Nov-05-2007, 05:36 AM

( It was misleading how I wrote that, though. WiFi and Bluetooth are options on the highest end Macs. Go figure, all that money and you gotta pay extra for them.)

:bwg

going back to my hole now

gus

Nov-05-2007, 09:52 PM

DavidTO

Nov-05-2007, 10:05 PM

So im now happily sitting typing away on my new iMac...all i can say is WOW , what a screen !!

My old CRT is beside it & i cant believe how dull & ordinary it looks beside the mac. So there you go...im out of the closet at last.

First thing to do, Gus, is to calibrate your monitor. If you don't have a hardware calibrator, go to the Apple Menu>System Preferences>Displays>Color>Calibrate.

Turn on advanced, and get ready to squint your eyes. Take your time and make sure that at each step the apple in the box disappears. At the end, make sure you change the gamma from the Mac default of 1.8 to 2.2, you can leave your white point at native.

gus

Nov-05-2007, 10:18 PM

First thing to do, Gus, is to calibrate your monitor. If you don't have a hardware calibrator, go to the Apple Menu>System Preferences>Displays>Color>Calibrate.

Turn on advanced, and get ready to squint your eyes. Take your time and make sure that at each step the apple in the box disappears. At the end, make sure you change the gamma from the Mac default of 1.8 to 2.2, you can leave your white point at native.
Ta mate but i can only just open a web page at the moment...this is sooo alien to me. That can be docs job this arvo.

I havnt got off the photobooth since i got home. how much fun is that ??

gus

Nov-05-2007, 10:42 PM

Giphsub

Nov-05-2007, 10:50 PM

click on the apple mark in the top left corner. Choose "force shutdown", choose itunes, and you're set :thumb

Giphsub

Nov-05-2007, 10:54 PM

also, use command + tab to toggle between programs like alt + tab in windows. Get it to itunes (so that it displays it on the top bar) then press command + Q to kill that program. Command + Q will completely shut down any program. Just clciking it on the red circle in the corner kills the interface, but leaves the app running in the background.

gus

Nov-05-2007, 11:01 PM

click on the apple mark in the top left corner. Choose "force shutdown", choose itunes, and you're set :thumb
:thumb tks mate.

Giphsub

Nov-05-2007, 11:13 PM

no wukkas. I went through all this myself about a month ago :wink

Richard

Nov-06-2007, 12:25 AM

A serious bug has been reported in Leopard. Read about it here (http://tomkarpik.com/articles/massive-data-loss-bug-in-leopard/). It can happen when you are moving a folder to an external drive or other USB device. If something happens to the external device while the move is in progress (say, a cord gets disconnected or the device fails) the source folder is deleted even though the move did not complete. Files that were not copied before the failure go to bit heaven.

I have also seen claims that this problem is not new to Leopard but exists in previous versions of OSX as well. :dunno

There is an easy way to protect yourself until Apple comes up with a fix. Don't move folders to external devices. Copy them instead. When the copy has completed, then you can delete the source folder safely.

I Simonius

Nov-06-2007, 01:26 AM

Mike Lane

Nov-06-2007, 01:49 AM

:thumb tks mate.also Gus, cmd-alt-esc :thumb

gus

Nov-06-2007, 02:04 AM

also Gus, cmd-alt-esc :thumb
tks mate...as soon as i find an 'alt' key :scratch

DoctorIt

Nov-06-2007, 02:56 AM

Turn on advanced, and get ready to squint your eyes. Take your time and make sure that at each step the apple in the box disappears.Now, I'm no idiot, to optics even, and that sh*t just don't make sense! I have never, ever been able to complete that calibration. Ever. It's stupid. Gus, don't even try it, you'll toss it out the window, guarantee it.

At the end, make sure you change the gamma from the Mac default of 1.8 to 2.2, you can leave your white point at native.I ran 2.2 forever, going on the usual reading, that it's just "better". Just recently I switched back to default 1.8 and I like looking at my screen again. dgrin would hurt my eyes on 2.2, too contrasty. Maybe on gus's big gorgeous screen :dunno I really have stopped trying to keep up with all the what's "right" with color and calibration. The guys who spec'ed my Mac know better than me, so I don't pretend to be smarter anymore. Default all the way. I print like 1 thing a year, so it's more important to me that the screen is pleasing and easy on the eyes.

Giphsub

Nov-06-2007, 03:36 AM

tks mate...as soon as i find an 'alt' key :scratch

alt = option

should be next to the apple (command) key...

Mike Lane

Nov-06-2007, 04:45 AM

I ran 2.2 forever, going on the usual reading, that it's just "better". Just recently I switched back to default 1.8 and I like looking at my screen again. dgrin would hurt my eyes on 2.2, too contrasty. Maybe on gus's big gorgeous screen :dunno I really have stopped trying to keep up with all the what's "right" with color and calibration. The guys who spec'ed my Mac know better than me, so I don't pretend to be smarter anymore. Default all the way. I print like 1 thing a year, so it's more important to me that the screen is pleasing and easy on the eyes.Yabut, what about this (http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/2007/02/14/this-is-your-mac-on-drugs/)?

patch29

Nov-06-2007, 06:32 AM

Anyone having issues with Lightroom and spaces?

So far this is the only time I have noticed this, LR is running in 1, I am surfing/emailing from 2 and it keeps switching me back to LR. :dunno

DavidTO

Nov-06-2007, 07:02 AM

ok..im updating everything in it & it has got to iTunes & it keeps asking me to ' please quit iTunes before continuing with this update' now im not in iTunes..ive opened it a few times & closed it.

Whats mac speak for 'control alt delete' so i can see what programmes are running ?

Gus, you got the answer about Force Quit, but I highly doubt that you had to use it. Force Quit should be a last resort. Do not get in the habit of using it.

Clicking the red close dot does NOT quit an application, it only closes the window (with a few very rare exceptions). Most likely you DID have iTunes open, but you had the window closed. The app was still running. To really close an application you need to quit it. File>Quit.

The dock shows you which applications are running, as will holding down the command key (don't let go!) and hitting tab. As long as you hold down comand you can see what's open, switch between apps, quit apps, hide apps, etc.

Ann McRae

Nov-06-2007, 07:08 AM

Thanks for all this info guys - I may need to join gus' lessons!

Gus - they are pretty, aren't they?

And as far as the monitor calibration and being able to make the apple actually disappear - I couldn't. Came closer on the cinema display than the iMac, but still not disappeared.

ann

Gus, you got the answer about Force Quit, but I highly doubt that you had to use it. Force Quit should be a last resort. Do not get in the habit of using it.

Clicking the red close dot does NOT quit an application, it only closes the window (with a few very rare exceptions). Most likely you DID have iTunes open, but you had the window closed. The app was still running. To really close an application you need to quit it. File>Quit.

The dock shows you which applications are running, as will holding down the command key (don't let go!) and hitting tab. As long as you hold down comand you can see what's open, switch between apps, quit apps, hide apps, etc.

Dee

Nov-06-2007, 10:47 AM

Thanks for all this info guys - I may need to join gus' lessons!

Gus - they are pretty, aren't they?

And as far as the monitor calibration and being able to make the apple actually disappear - I couldn't. Came closer on the cinema display than the iMac, but still not disappeared.

ann

I could never get the apple to disappear either. Just get as close as you can.

Maybe some tech type person here could post some screen grabs showing their before and after examples of trying to make the apple disappear? I'd like to see how close they get just to see what it's supposed to look like.

Oh, and when I used huey to adjust my monitor, there was hardly any difference, so using the built in monitor calibration on my particular monitor was almost identical to the huey adjusted version.

I've used Macs when they were apples back in the 1980s... but I learn new tips here all the time. It's amazing how different people learn and use different techniques.

gus

Nov-06-2007, 10:50 AM

alt = option

should be next to the apple (command) key...
ahh tks...the keyboard is only bloody 10" long & my eyes aint what they used to be.

DavidTO

Nov-06-2007, 11:41 AM

I could never get the apple to disappear either. Just get as close as you can.

It's all in the squinting. And it's better than nothing! :thumb

Mike Lane

Nov-06-2007, 11:57 AM

Clicking the red close dot does NOT quit an application, it only closes the window (with a few very rare exceptions). Most likely you DID have iTunes open, but you had the window closed. The app was still running. To really close an application you need to quit it. File>Quit.

cmd-q will actually quit an application as well :thumb

wxwax

Nov-06-2007, 12:16 PM

It's all in the squinting. And it's better than nothing! :thumb
I gave up trying to make it work on the lappie. Too radical a change from the default.

wxwax

Nov-06-2007, 12:25 PM

cmd-q will actually quit an application as well :thumb
That's what I use. Hope I'm not breaking the machine. :uhoh

Gus, open a program. Look at the top of your screen. Top left is a blue Apple. To the right of that is the name of the program you're using, and its menu strip. To close it, you can either click on the File drop-down menu, and click on Close. Or hit Command-Q.

Try opening a bunch of programs. Then click the red dot to close each one's window.

Now, hold down the Command button, and hit Tab. You'll get a little window that shows each of your programs. Each time you hit Tab, you call up the next program.

In other words, as David said, you closed the window... but not the program.

To close the program itself, I do the Command-Tab trick to select the program I want to close, and then Command-Q to close the program itself. All keystrokes, no mouse action. To use the mouse, Command-Tab to the program, then click on the File drop-down menu, and click on Close.

Clear as mud?

gus

Nov-06-2007, 12:28 PM

That's what I use. Hope I'm not breaking the machine. :uhoh

Gus, open a program. Look at the top of your screen. Top left is a blue Apple. To the right of that is the name of the program you're using, and its menu strip. To close it, you can either click on the File drop-down menu, and click on Close. Or hit Command-Q.

Try opening a bunch of programs. Then click the red dot to close each one's window.

Now, hold down the Command button, and hit Tab. You'll get a little window that shows each of your programs. Each time you hit Tab, you call up the next program.

In other words, as David said, you closed the window... but not the program.

To close the program itself, I do the Command-Tab trick to select the program I want to close, and then Command-Q to close the program itself. All keystrokes, no mouse action. To use the mouse, Command-Tab to the program, then click on the File drop-down menu, and click on Close.

Clear as mud?
Yeah..its cool. now how do i open 2 web pages at once ? I saw doc doing it last night but i have forgotten how he did it. In windows i used to just reduce one and open the next:scratch

Pretty basic stuff i know but i have to ask. Remember guys..keep it simple pls.

Jamoke

Nov-06-2007, 12:32 PM

Yeah..its cool. now how do i open 2 web pages at once ? I saw doc doing it last night but i have forgotten how he did it. In windows i used to just reduce one and open the next:scratch

Pretty basic stuff i know but i have to ask. Remember guys..keep it simple pls.

CMD + N should open a new window regardless of which browser you have.

Getting more technical you could try playing with CMD + T for a new Tab, and play with those too...

Playing around with F9-F12 could also reveal some neat tricks.

colourbox

Nov-06-2007, 12:35 PM

Yeah..its cool. now how do i open 2 web pages at once ? I saw doc doing it last night but i have forgotten how he did it. In windows i used to just reduce one and open the next:scratch

You can do that too. Minimize a window and open a new one. (Keyboard sequence would be Command-M, then Command-N, works in Safari & Firefox). That should be a lot like Windows.

Tabs are better though. I think in Safari you have to enable tabs in preferences, but once that's done you can hit Command-T to open a New Tab.

Or right-click a link to open it in a new window or a new tab or download the target, same as Windows.

Or Command-click a link to open it in a new tab. Another way to do that is to click the scroll wheel if you have one.

StevenV

Nov-06-2007, 12:35 PM

File>Quit.
oh no, you didn't.

click on the File drop-down menu, and click on Close.
argh, not you too!

:rofl

What they mean, Gus, is the ApplicationName menu, then Quit.

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/2980/picture1wa2.jpg

(or, as you've found, Command-Q works great) :clap

wxwax

Nov-06-2007, 12:39 PM

argh, not you too!

Like I said. :wxwax

To close the program itself, I do the Command-Tab trick to select the program I want to close, and then Command-Q to close the program itself. All keystrokes, no mouse action. To use the mouse, Command-Tab to the program, then click on the File drop-down menu, and click on Close.

Picture's worth a thousand words, though! :thumb

Mike Lane

Nov-06-2007, 01:04 PM

DavidTO

Nov-06-2007, 01:14 PM

oh no, you didn't.

Ha!! A leftover from my OS9 and earlier days. Brainfart.

Nice catch!

bigwebguy

Nov-06-2007, 01:17 PM

Hey gus, if you've got a bunch of different windows open in most programs (not photoshop :wxwax) you can hit cmd-~ (the tilde to the left of the 1 key) to switch between them. Or you can use F10 if you've set up expose to use those keys. Or you can use the hot corner assuming you've set those up. :thumb

cmd-~ is a sanity saver for me.i've tied full screen expose to my third mouse button and application expose to a hotcorner. show desktop is another hot corner. works so so nice on my lappy but may be moot on a big display.

if you're in safari, cmd + L will select the url in the address bar. You can then type in your url and hit cmd + T for a new tab or cmd + shift + T to have that tab selected.

cmd + spacebar will launch spotlight and from there you can type in anything you want to search for. In Leopard, Applications now show as the first hit so you can use it as an application launcher. cmd + space, type saf, safari is selected in spotlight, hit enter and away you go!

The hotkeys take a bit of getting used to but are so much more powerful than they were in windows.

StevenV

Nov-06-2007, 01:19 PM

DavidTO

Nov-06-2007, 01:22 PM

if you're in safari, cmd + L will select the url in the address bar. You can then type in your url and hit cmd + T for a new tab or cmd + shift + T to have that tab selected.

BWG: If you install SAFT you can have the tabs open to the far right, far left, or to the left/right of the active tab, as well.

bigwebguy

Nov-06-2007, 01:30 PM

BWG: If you install SAFT you can have the tabs open to the far right, far left, or to the left/right of the active tab, as well.interesting. I dont really care where the tabs open though. I can rearrange them later if I want to.

bigwebguy

Nov-06-2007, 01:48 PM

the (odd?) thing about iTunes is that it's window doesn't automatically show itself when you command-Tab to the app. Even then, Window->BringAllToFront doesn't show the "main" window. Window->iTunes does that. hmmmm.you sure you don't have iTunes minimized to the dock? cmd+tab shows the main window for me so long as its not minimized (same with all apps).

That is one of my nits about OSX though, if i cmd+tab to an app, I want it to show regardless of whether its been minimized or not.

StevenV

Nov-06-2007, 02:11 PM

yea, that's when minimized. (and it's not just iTunes - I just checked and the other apps do just the same.) I'd expected as you, that cmd-tab would restore the window.

DoctorIt

Nov-06-2007, 02:15 PM

Yabut, what about this (http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/2007/02/14/this-is-your-mac-on-drugs/)?yeah, you're right. so for gus, I'm doing my best to read up and be proper - he's actually a good photographer and cares about colors, so I want to make sure I set up his monitor right next time I get called in for Mac support :lol3

I did the change and I still have a bit of wonkiness - PS is now looking like FF, but the image in Bridge is NOT the same color as in PS. Screen grab (very obvious, colors are more saturated and contrasty in Bridge preview, on right):

http://myskitch.com/doctorit/2007-10-25.jpg___50___rgb_8_monitor_-20071107-081750.jpg

wxwax

Nov-06-2007, 02:20 PM

Hey gus, if you've got a bunch of different windows open in most programs (not photoshop :wxwax) you can hit cmd-~ (the tilde to the left of the 1 key) to switch between them.
Cool tip. :thumb

wxwax

Nov-06-2007, 02:22 PM

if you're in safari, cmd + L will select the url in the address bar. You can then type in your url and hit cmd + T for a new tab or cmd + shift + T to have that tab selected.

In Firefox, Command-K puts your cursor on the Google search window.

Is there a similar keystroke in Safari?

ivar

Nov-06-2007, 02:24 PM

In Firefox, Command-K puts your cursor on the Google search window.

Is there a similar keystroke in Safari?opt-cmd-f :thumb

wxwax

Nov-06-2007, 02:27 PM

opt-cmd-f :thumb
Thanks!

bigwebguy

Nov-06-2007, 02:52 PM

yeah, you're right. so for gus, I'm doing my best to read up and be proper - he's actually a good photographer and cares about colors, so I want to make sure I set up his monitor right next time I get called in for Mac support :lol3

I did the change and I still have a bit of wonkiness - PS is now looking like FF, but the image in Bridge is NOT the same color as in PS. Screen grab (very obvious, colors are more saturated and contrasty in Bridge preview, on right):
I have mine calibrated via the system-calibration tool and lightroom still displays differently than on the web. Lightroom is like your Bridge shot above. It's friggin maddening and i cant figure a way around it.

on another note, are those safety goggles? Is there anything *not* dangerous over there?

Mike Lane

Nov-06-2007, 03:09 PM

In Firefox, Command-K puts your cursor on the Google search window.

Is there a similar keystroke in Safari?rad!

Okay here's some fun firefox ones.

The F6 key highlights the current page's URL in the address bar.

When you're entering in a url you can complete it by using modifiers to the enter key. cmd-enter does .com, shift-enter does .net, and cmd-shift-enter does .org.

So if you type smugmug and hit cmd enter it will change the url to http://www.smugmug.com/ automagically. If you hit shift enter instead, it will change the url to http://www.smugmug.net/ and if you instead hit cmd-shift-enter it would make it http://www.smugmug.org/.

Can safari do that?

DoctorIt

Nov-06-2007, 04:11 PM

I have mine calibrated via the system-calibration tool and lightroom still displays differently than on the web. Lightroom is like your Bridge shot above. It's friggin maddening and i cant figure a way around it.if even you can't fix it, then I'm happy :D as long as the PS view is close enough to web, that's fine with me. I only use the Bridge preview for quick culling of shots anyway.

on another note, are those safety goggles? Is there anything *not* dangerous over there?:lol3
I was hoping you wouldn't notice that. Aussie spuds are harmless, unless you're MrsIt who has a weird eye potato allergy.

wxwax

Nov-06-2007, 05:50 PM

rad!

Okay here's some fun firefox ones.

The F6 key highlights the current page's URL in the address bar.

When you're entering in a url you can complete it by using modifiers to the enter key. cmd-enter does .com, shift-enter does .net, and cmd-shift-enter does .org.

So if you type smugmug and hit cmd enter it will change the url to http://www.smugmug.com/ automagically. If you hit shift enter instead, it will change the url to http://www.smugmug.net/ and if you instead hit cmd-shift-enter it would make it http://www.smugmug.org/.

Can safari do that?
Hmmm, Firefox doesn't do any of these on my Macbook.

Edit: I see, it'll do it if you don't put in the www.

bigwebguy

Nov-06-2007, 05:53 PM

if even you can't fix it, then I'm happy :D as long as the PS view is close enough to web, that's fine with me. I only use the Bridge preview for quick culling of shots anyway.

:lol3
I was hoping you wouldn't notice that. Aussie spuds are harmless, unless you're MrsIt who has a weird eye potato allergy.
So Andy sez Lightroom operates in ProPhoto. Maybe the same for Bridge?

wxwax

Nov-06-2007, 06:44 PM

So Andy sez Lightroom operates in ProPhoto. Maybe the same for Bridge?
What do these words mean? :scratch

Mike Lane

Nov-06-2007, 08:20 PM

What do these words mean? :scratchProPhoto RGB (http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/prophoto-rgb.shtml)

Giphsub

Nov-06-2007, 09:27 PM

I know this was answered a few time somewhere in this big convoluted thread, but can someone please save me an hour or two of reading and tell me which colourspace I should set on my imac. I did the calibration thing and and have that saved as an option, but if I go to one of the other presets, which one should I use? sRGB? one of the others?

DavidTO

Nov-06-2007, 09:31 PM

Giphsub

Nov-06-2007, 09:41 PM

sorry, I should have been clearer. I have done the monitor calibration thing (couldn't really make the apple disappear!) and have since decided that that setting is a little too dark compared to the other presets I can choose in the "color" setting in the display preferences. So if I don't want to use the profile I saved using the monitor calibrator then which profile should I set it back to?? Make sense? I am probably mixing up my terminology badly here...

SloYerRoll

Nov-06-2007, 09:49 PM

So Andy sez Lightroom operates in ProPhoto. Maybe the same for Bridge?
Internally Lr uses it's own color space. It has the size of Pro Photo but the response curve of sRGB. *see below for how Br sees things

I did the change and I still have a bit of wonkiness - PS is now looking like FF, but the image in Bridge is NOT the same color as in PS. Screen grab (very obvious, colors are more saturated and contrasty in Bridge preview, on right):

Bridge displays images according to you Camera RAW preferences. Import an image into ACR, then adjust the basics like saturation and tonal curve, etc. Don't adjust exposure or any other setting that is more image to image dependent. Then go under the menu and click "save new camera raw defaults". Now bridge will display with better saturation, vibrance, contrast curve, etc..

This was a HUGE nightmare for me a while back and it took weeks of reading to get that simple paragraph posted above.

BTW I'm on a PC but this problem has proven to be an equal opportunity PITA and it's cross platform.

-Jon

DoctorIt

Nov-06-2007, 11:26 PM

Bridge displays images according to you Camera RAW preferences. Import an image into ACR, then adjust the basics like saturation and tonal curve, etc. Don't adjust exposure or any other setting that is more image to image dependent. Then go under the menu and click "save new camera raw defaults". Now bridge will display with better saturation, vibrance, contrast curve, etc..good onya for figuring that out... but, what if 99% of my images are .jpg, it still interprets them based on my camera RAW settings? that doesn't compute :scratch

SloYerRoll

Nov-06-2007, 11:50 PM

good onya for figuring that out... but, what if 99% of my images are .jpg, it still interprets them based on my camera RAW settings? that doesn't compute :scratchNot sure on that.
I know there's som issues w/ Bridge in general w/ color management though.

I only use Br nowdays for browsing through .eps & .ai files NEway. I've finally keyworded my Lr collection to the point where I can find pretty much anything within a few keystrokes.

Did'nt see that part about the jpeg.. Good luck. It was a real hassle for me..:rolleyes

gus

Nov-06-2007, 11:52 PM

ok..next.

How do i save a photo from the net [in accordance with all copywrite laws of course]

...and how do i allow cookies ?

SloYerRoll

Nov-07-2007, 12:06 AM

I assume Safari..

Saving web images locally:
Click on the pick, drag it to where you want. Done.

Allowing cookies:
Safari>preferences (shortcut "cmd + ,")
Security tab. If you need help from there...

gus

Nov-07-2007, 12:08 AM

I assume Safari..

Security tab. If you need help from there...
tks ..yep safari.I looked in security re cookies & couldnt see what to allow :scratch

SloYerRoll

Nov-07-2007, 12:38 AM

:scratch
screen cap?

gus

Nov-07-2007, 12:44 AM

:scratch
screen cap?
Its cool..i think i have too many questions thus i will cook a steak for doc & bribe him to pop over again & take me through a few basics.

colourbox

Nov-07-2007, 04:29 AM

How do i save a photo from the net [in accordance with all copywrite laws of course]

three ways I can think of (Safari, anyway):
1. right-click to get the menu; press option to get the "Download Linked File As..." command to manually set the download folder
2. option-click the link to the image (option-click forces link to download to default download folder instead of appearing in browser)
3. drag the image off the page to a folder

Here is something I didn't know until like a week ago. If you are dragging and you can't see the target drop window, without stopping the drag (keep mouse pressed) hit Command-Tab with your other hand and pick the app icon so that the target window comes into view, then you can drop. Also when dragging to a closed folder you can press Space (again without stopping the drag) to pop open the folder in mid-drag; good way to drill down while dragging.

I Simonius

Nov-07-2007, 04:36 AM

Anyone having issues with Lightroom and spaces?

So far this is the only time I have noticed this, LR is running in 1, I am surfing/emailing from 2 and it keeps switching me back to LR. :dunno

Dunno but this is a good place to get LR answers, several LR guru's there:-)

http://www.lightroomforums.net/index.php

I Simonius

Nov-07-2007, 04:40 AM

ok..next.

How do i save a photo from the net [in accordance with all copywrite laws of course]

...and how do i allow cookies ?

All I ever do is either right click and save linked file ( or whatever it says)
or just drag the image to the desktop - put it where i want later - or you could use 'command+shift+4' and drag across the area you want copied and that will save it as a selective screenshot

tks ..yep safari.I looked in security re cookies & couldnt see what to allow :scratch

allow cookies by going to 'preferences>security>' click on 'only sites I navigate to' - that's what I use anyway I think it's deafult

There's also 'private browsing' you can set in the file menu:wink :wink

DavidTO

Nov-07-2007, 07:12 AM

Gus, I highly recommend Skitch for screengrabs. Nothing makes sharing screengrabs easier.

It is beta, and it requires that you get an invite, which I could have sent to you, but it requires that I give them an email for you.

You can watch a demo of it here (http://plasq.com/skitch#demo).

patch29

Nov-07-2007, 07:45 AM

I often use Grab that is provided with Mac OS. It should be in the utility folder. My only gripe would be that it saves as a tiff file, no option for jpg or gif, but it is easy to use and free.

Andy

Nov-07-2007, 08:33 AM

I often use Grab that is provided with Mac OS. It should be in the utility folder. My only gripe would be that it saves as a tiff file, no option for jpg or gif, but it is easy to use and free.
If you are using Grab still, then get SCIT (google it, it's free), makes the grabbed file a jpg if you want :thumb

But, Skitch, ftw :clap

gus

Nov-07-2007, 10:52 AM

allow cookies by going to 'preferences>security>' click on 'only sites I navigate to' - that's what I use anyway I think it's deafult
I cannot see those words in any of the security tabs or inside any of them. Im using safari. the site i am trying to see is
www.mtbcut.tv

DavidTO

Nov-07-2007, 11:05 AM

In your Safari prefs (NOT your System Prefs!):

http://myskitch.com/davidrosenthal/security-20071107-110445.jpg

SloYerRoll

Nov-07-2007, 11:24 AM

I often use Grab that is provided with Mac OS. It should be in the utility folder. My only gripe would be that it saves as a tiff file, no option for jpg or gif, but it is easy to use and free.
FYI:
If you ever grab a portion of a screen and send it to the Clipboard (using the shortcut cmd+shift+control+4), and then decide you’d rather have the image be a file of its own, just switch to Preview and press command-N—there’s no need to grab the screenshot again.

DavidTO

Nov-07-2007, 11:26 AM

FYI:
If you ever grab a portion of a screen and send it to the Clipboard (using the shortcut cmd+shift+control+4), and then decide you’d rather have the image be a file of its own, just switch to Preview and press command-N—there’s no need to grab the screenshot again.

Or get Skitch. :wink

Edit: just tried the command-n thing in Preview, it's not working for me? Or maybe I just don't get what you're saying?

gus

Nov-07-2007, 11:30 AM

In your Safari prefs (NOT your System Prefs!):

Yep..i have it checked the same as your picture. Should i accept from all then ?

DavidTO

Nov-07-2007, 11:33 AM

Yep..i have it checked the same as your picture. Should i accept from all then ?

Only if you want to accept cookies from advertisers and the like.

Let's back up. What exactly is happening when you go to that site?

gus

Nov-07-2007, 11:36 AM

Only if you want to accept cookies from advertisers and the like.

Let's back up. What exactly is happening when you go to that site?
It opens as normal & in the first secon of the vid starting to buffer it closes & states 'your cookie function is turned off'

DavidTO

Nov-07-2007, 11:39 AM

It opens as normal & in the first secon of the vid starting to buffer it closes & states 'your cookie function is turned off'

Try turning on "Always". That should fix it. Then see if you can turn it back to "Only Site I Navigate To" and see if it still works. The second is preferred, but it's not a huge deal.

DavidTO

Nov-07-2007, 11:41 AM

gus

Nov-07-2007, 12:21 PM

There's a great plug-in app for Safari called Pith Helmet (http://www.culater.net/software/PithHelmet/PithHelmetSampleSecurity.php), that gives you a lot of control over cookies and other stuff. Unfortunately, it's not yet Leopard compatible.

Sorry i should have made myself clearer. Its the video that opens on the page automatically when the page is opened that i cant see. I get it no worrys on my PC.

With leopard i get the following msg.

you need 10.2, 10.3.9 is best with either media player 9 or flipmac WMV 2.0.2 or newer.

wxwax

Nov-07-2007, 12:30 PM

Played with Safari again last night. I like the way it scrolls.

But there doesn't seem to be a way to discretely control pop-ups. If I want to accept PM's, then it looks like I have to accept all pop-ups.

I don't see a Safari equivalent to the Firefox tool which allows you to specifiy which sites are allowed to pop-up.

DavidTO

Nov-07-2007, 12:33 PM

Sorry i should have made myself clearer. Its the video that opens on the page automatically when the page is opened that i cant see. I get it no worrys on my PC.

With leopard i get the following msg.

you need 10.2, 10.3.9 is best with either media player 9 or flipmac WMV 2.0.2 or newer.

Try this (http://www.perian.org/#detail) first, it's free. If that doesn't work, try this (http://www.flip4mac.com/wmv_download.htm), which is free and also upgradable to pay versions with more features you probably don't need.

DavidTO

Nov-07-2007, 12:37 PM

Played with Safari again last night. I like the way it scrolls.

But there doesn't seem to be a way to discretely control pop-ups. If I want too accept PM's, then it looks like I have to accept all pop-ups.

I don't see a Safari equivalent to the Firefox tool which allows you to specifiy which sites are allowed to pop-up.

This can be done with Pith Helmet, which I mentioned above. Since you're not on Leopard yet, you could try it. But yes, it's not a feature built-in to Safari. With PH, you can set your ad blocking prefs on a per site basis (http://www.culater.net/software/PithHelmet/PithHelmetSampleAdBlocking.php).

bigwebguy

Nov-07-2007, 12:39 PM

Try this (http://www.perian.org/#detail) first, it's free. If that doesn't work, try this (http://www.flip4mac.com/wmv_download.htm), which is free and also upgradable to pay versions with more features you probably don't need.there's also miro/getmiro.com (used to be democracy player).

vry nice.

DavidTO

Nov-08-2007, 07:07 AM

bigwebguy

Nov-08-2007, 09:06 AM

Seeing as how the other, wanna-be thread (http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=75639) has a no fan-boys rule, I thought I'd pop in here to let you all know that Leopard Spanks Vista (http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9045689&intsrc=hm_ts_head). Apparently it's no contest. :winkgood quote
In numerous small ways, Apple has improved its OS, while Microsoft has, in a plethora of ways, changed Windows -- not always for the better.

gus

Nov-08-2007, 11:35 AM

Seeing as how the other, wanna-be thread (http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=75639) has a no fan-boys rule, I thought I'd pop in here to let you all know that Leopard Spanks Vista (http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9045689&intsrc=hm_ts_head). Apparently it's no contest. :wink

Mate that leopard spanks vista site has 100% frozen my mac...whats up ? is it a joke site or something ? My mouse moves but it will not do anything at all.

I have turned it off & re-started but it is still on that page :dunno How do i fix this ? Whilst im sure you may well think im joking but im not.

Im running leopard btw. Oh the irony.

DavidTO

Nov-08-2007, 11:41 AM

Mate that leopard spanks vista site has 100% frozen my mac...whats up ? is it a joke site or something ? My mouse moves but it will not do anything at all.

I have turned it off & re-started but it is still on that page :dunno How do i fix this ? Whilst im sure you may well think im joking but im not.

Im running leopard btw. Oh the irony.

That is ironic, and it's an indication that something is wrong. :D Understatement, eh? :wink

That site loads fine for me. I'm not sure what to tell you. Maybe someone else can chime in with a good idea. I'll think on it. It seems like you're having a Safari issue in general, to me.

You've restarted the Mac? Or restarted Safari?

gus

Nov-08-2007, 11:45 AM

That is ironic, and it's an indication that something is wrong. :D Understatement, eh? :wink

That site loads fine for me. I'm not sure what to tell you. Maybe someone else can chime in with a good idea. I'll think on it. It seems like you're having a Safari issue in general, to me.

You've restarted the Mac? Or restarted Safari?
I just switched the comp off at its on/off button (twice) Whilst my mouse moves freely it will not do anything thus i cant force shut-down etc. Man i told you i can break anything !

The mouse will highlight the expand/reduce/close buttons (red/yellow/green buttons on the top left) as i move it over them...it simply wont do anything with them.

What keys will force a re-boot ?

gus

Nov-08-2007, 11:50 AM

colourbox

Nov-08-2007, 11:53 AM

Before shutting off the computer, always try Command-Tab to get to another application first, or try using the dock to switch away. Rarely does the entire OS lock up completely. It is usually just one app that is hung.

If one app is hung, you can force-quit just that one (Command-Option-Esc).

If you must do a hard shut down, do it the same way as on many PCs: Hold the power button down several seconds until it goes off.

gus

Nov-08-2007, 11:59 AM

If you must do a hard shut down, do it the same way as on many PCs: Hold the power button down several seconds until it goes off.
Tks mate...i was wondering about that as both times i shut it off for a few mins & when i restarted , it came back to that page immediately (2 seconds) telling me it wasnt really shut down at all.

The new mouse batterys appear to have fixed it.

DavidTO

Nov-08-2007, 12:24 PM

Im cool. I used ctrl W to shut the screens down & still the mouse did nothing thus i went & changed the batterys in the mouse & im back working again. i will try the site again to see if it will break this time.

edit...check the site again. All is well. How long do the batterys in the wireless mouse last for ? They were the suppliers batterys thus i understand they were most likely crap but they were energisers.

Batteries should last months and months, I would think. I know the keyboard said 9 months normal use, I didn't read about the mouse batt life.

Command-W just closes the window. If the application is hung, that will do nothing to help it, most likely. You want to command-q (quit) or, if that doesn't work, command-option-escape, which will allow you to force-quit an application.

[EDIT: AppleJack is apparently not yet compatible with Leopard. I was steering you wrong.]

One thing I would recommend is downloading and installing AppleJack (http://applejack.sourceforge.net/). It's the idiot's best friend to repairing any problems your Mac may be having. I'm not saying that you need it now, but it's a great thing to have in your back pocket. It's not a normal application. Once installed you do the following to run it:

1) restart, and after the chime hold down command-s until you see text appear, at which time you let go.

2) once it's started up, type "applejack auto restart", and get a cup of coffee while it runs. When it's done, it will restart your computer.

That's it. It runs 5 different things that will clear up 99% of your problems you may develop on your Mac.

The other great idiot's non-troubleshooting technique is a restart. If you're having trouble, system's running slow, restart. This should be a pretty rare occurrence. I restart my laptop every couple of months, and usually just because a software update requires it.

DavidTO

Nov-08-2007, 12:28 PM

Gus, this closing a window vs. quitting an application is one of the big differences between Mac and Windows, and is a hard habit for new switchers to master. They close the window thinking that they've closed the application, but it's still open. You'll get the hang of it.

gus

Nov-08-2007, 12:31 PM

You'll get the hang of it.
I will..i'll persist as this screen is just too good. When i was hung up i went back to my PC & CRT...man what a difference there is between the 2.

DavidTO

Nov-08-2007, 12:32 PM

I will..i'll persist as this screen is just too good. When i was hung up i went back to my PC & CRT...man what a difference there is between the 2.

If you're into reading, this (http://www.myfirstmac.com/index.php/) may help.

wxwax

Nov-08-2007, 12:42 PM

If you're into reading, this (http://www.myfirstmac.com/index.php/) may help.
Now I can't wait to zip something. Usually it's just the opposite.

:D

DavidTO

Nov-08-2007, 08:02 PM

I made a post about a new Mac-only editing software, Naked Light (http://www.naked.la/), discuss it here (http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?p=677571).

gus

Nov-11-2007, 12:12 PM

Ive lost my card reader. It was one of those cheap little 8 card readers that just plugged into my PC's USB.

Whats the best for the Mac as i need a new one ? Compact Flash BTW.

DavidTO

Nov-11-2007, 12:14 PM

Ive lost my card reader. It was one of those cheap little 8 card readers that just plugged into my PC's USB.

Whats the best for the Mac as i need a new one ? Compact Flash BTW.

Machts nichts.

gus

Nov-11-2007, 01:17 PM

Machts nichts.
Andy just sorted it for me. So the USB card reader will need to read FAT32 rather than 16 ..as my cards are 4 GIG, correct ?

DavidTO

Nov-11-2007, 01:44 PM

Andy just sorted it for me. So the USB card reader will need to read FAT32 rather than 16 ..as my cards are 4 GIG, correct ?

Huh. My cards max out at 2GB, and I've never thought once about what kind of reader I get, other than do I like the way it looks and is it USB 2.0. :dunno

wxwax

Nov-11-2007, 01:56 PM

DavidTO

Nov-11-2007, 01:59 PM

Gus, I've loaded and edited from 12GB and 16GB CF cards on my mac with the same card reader i have on my WInders. No difference.

What is different is Firewire. I'd say Firewire is 40%-50% faster than USB. If you can get a Firewire card reader, I'd recommend it.

True. They also tend to be more expensive, and less portable. I like the small ones, as they're great for travelling.

gus

Nov-11-2007, 02:10 PM

True. They also tend to be more expensive, and less portable. I like the small ones, as they're great for travelling.
Tks sid/to. I just bought a small pen/flash drive type one on ebay that the CF card fits into & then into the USB slot. I like small.

wxwax

Nov-11-2007, 02:19 PM

True. They also tend to be more expensive, and less portable. I like the small ones, as they're great for travelling.
:scratch

Huh (http://www.trustedreviews.com/storage/review/2006/09/26/SanDisk-Extreme-IV-2GB-CF-Card-Reader-Bundle/p1)?

DavidTO

Nov-11-2007, 02:25 PM

:scratch

Huh (http://www.trustedreviews.com/storage/review/2006/09/26/SanDisk-Extreme-IV-2GB-CF-Card-Reader-Bundle/p1)?

Been a long while since I looked. :D

MooreDriven

Nov-11-2007, 05:19 PM

DavidTO

Nov-11-2007, 05:27 PM

I purchased a Macbook (Windows convert) on Friday and have a few questions.

1. I am considering upgrading the RAM to either 2 or 4 gig. I use Lightroom as my primary photo application, but plan to purchase Dxo in the near future as well. Typically, more RAM is better. I'm interested to hear about your experiences while running your applications.

2. Can you recommend any 3rd party applications (photo related and any others)?

Thanks for the info in advance.

Dale

Hey, Dale.

I merged your post into this thread, we're trying to keep all the Mac posts in one place, since if we don't, the Windows users get all nervous and anxious. :D

1) Yes, more RAM. The 4GB kit at crucial is $200--why not? :ear

2) DxO has a lot to offer. :thumb I would add PS to LR first, though. There are a ton of non-photo related 3rd party apps recommended in this thread. As for photo apps, LR/PS/DxO should do you well for a bit, I'd say. :thumb

MooreDriven

Nov-12-2007, 06:22 AM

Thanks DavidTO!

The post regarding 3rd party apps I was looking for was one that you posted a few weeks ago. I found in this thread!:clap I will search around and see what else I can find.

One app I used a lot in Windows world was Roboform (http://www.roboform.com/). It's a single source for encrypting your passwords and personal information to automate logins and form filling. Very useful. I found one similar for the Mac, 1Password (http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/21711/1passwd). While it has the same basic functionality, it's not quite as user friendly as Roboform.

So far the Macbook has been a surprise. When considering my purchase, I was set to buy the MBP. Then they introduced an update to the MB. The rep at the Apple store said he uses LR on an older MB, and said it runs a little slow, but fine for his needs. I've found it to be very acceptable thus far. We'll see what happens when I have LR, Firefox, and other apps running at the same time. If it's too slow, I'll buy a MBP when they are updated next year.

Dale

DavidTO

Nov-12-2007, 06:29 AM

Why not just use Keychain Access? How do those other PW apps differ? I've never looked into that. Learn me! :ear

CatOne

Nov-12-2007, 07:45 AM

Why not just use Keychain Access? How do those other PW apps differ? I've never looked into that. Learn me! :ear

1Password uses the OS X Keychain. It can auto-fill passwords and forms; it has a browser plug-in.

It's a bit of a win for convenience, but personally I used it and stopped using it because I just go to Keychain Access and look up any passwords that I happen to forget. If think if I were more disciplined and used 1Password's extra features more (e.g. it can auto-generate a STRONG password for you for a site, and have a unique password for each site) it would be worth it, but ::shrug::

CatOne

Nov-12-2007, 07:46 AM

:scratch

Huh (http://www.trustedreviews.com/storage/review/2006/09/26/SanDisk-Extreme-IV-2GB-CF-Card-Reader-Bundle/p1)?

Gus, I can show you a link to a $30,000 pair of speaker cables but it doesn't necessarily mean that speaker cables are more expensive than cars :wink

MooreDriven

Nov-12-2007, 03:20 PM

1Password uses the OS X Keychain. It can auto-fill passwords and forms; it has a browser plug-in.

According to the website, it uses both the OS X Keychain, and it's own encryption to ensure your information is a little more secure. The same was true with Roboform on the PC. I also like the fact that it will generate a strong password for you, and automatically save the password.

Now I'm considering a firewall. My router has a firewall built in, but if I'm on a public network, I would prefer to have a bit more protection. Any recommendations?

DavidTO

Nov-12-2007, 03:57 PM

DavidTO

Nov-12-2007, 04:21 PM

A cool little hack/workaround (http://t.ecksdee.org/post/19001860) for one of my least favorite aspects of Leopard.

MooreDriven

Nov-12-2007, 08:16 PM

What's wrong with the built-in firewall?

You also might consider Little Snitch.

I don't know that anything is wrong with the built-in firewall. I think it stems from my lack of trust developed from years in the Windows world. Little Snitch looks interesting. I'll give it a try.

Thanks for the info.

DavidTO

Nov-12-2007, 08:18 PM

I don't know that anything is wrong with the built-in firewall. I think it stems from my lack of trust developed from years in the Windows world. Little Snitch looks interesting. I'll give it a try.

Thanks for the info.

re: firewall.

advanced>stealth mode :wink

DavidTO

Nov-13-2007, 11:28 AM

Meet Bento. (http://www.bentotrial.com/preview/default.aspx)

Personal database program by Filemaker. Integrates with iCal, Address Book....looks pretty good.

cabbey

Nov-13-2007, 03:38 PM

A cool little hack/workaround (http://t.ecksdee.org/post/19001860) for one of my least favorite aspects of Leopard.

Oh man, I've been hacking around trying to come up with something similar for a while now, but those icons are just too gorgeous to resist. Combined with the pref to turn glass mode off and the Dock is back to being useful and no longer causing me to become violently ill. Thanks!!

CatOne

Nov-13-2007, 03:53 PM

According to the website, it uses both the OS X Keychain, and it's own encryption to ensure your information is a little more secure. The same was true with Roboform on the PC. I also like the fact that it will generate a strong password for you, and automatically save the password.

Now I'm considering a firewall. My router has a firewall built in, but if I'm on a public network, I would prefer to have a bit more protection. Any recommendations?

Yeah, not sure how it can be "more secure" than the keychain. Other than the stuff isn't human readable via Keychain Access, but it's totally wide open via their GUI to it (argh). Means migrating *away* from it is a PITA.

As far as a firewall... your router's firewall is fine. OS X doesn't really *need* a firewall as by default there aren't any services listening (no NetBIOS, thanks ;-) In turning on the firewall, you're just blocking ports that aren't listening anyway... so you're not going to get much. If you want outbound connection monitoring, there are tools like Little Snitch but Spyware isn't currently an issue so I don't know that they're worth it.

The OS X firewall in Leopard is also a bit goofy. It has application signing built in, and I think the technology is a bit green right now. OS X will actually sign some unsigned applications, and this breaks them. One that has been broken is World of Warcraft. This will be addressed soon, but IMO right now the Leopard firewall is best left... turned off :wink

MooreDriven

Nov-13-2007, 04:48 PM

DavidTO

Nov-13-2007, 05:12 PM

CatOne,

Your post really confused me. If I understand you correctly, your saying that Keychain is unsecure, and the firewall is better turned off? Huh!:scratch Maybe I'm missing something here.

It's been a long day. Between work and trying to figure out a personal finance solution on the Mac, I'm fried! Quicken for the Mac is a POS. Very frustrated I did not look into this further before making the leap.

I believe he's saying that KeyChain Access is secure. The other not so much. It opens up a vulnerability.

For the firewall, if the ports aren't listening, where's the need is the question he's asking.

gus

Nov-13-2007, 11:36 PM

So how do i set a home page ? Ive had a look & cant see it :scratch

Its defaulted to Apple atm & i want Google.

cabbey

Nov-14-2007, 12:11 AM

So how do i set a home page ? Ive had a look & cant see it :scratch

Its defaulted to Apple atm & i want Google.

Which browser? :wink

Safari: navigate to page, open preferences, general tab, click "set to current page" button.

Camino: open preferences, general tab, type url into Home Page box, or drag and drop from bookmarks or current location bar.

Firefox: pretty much either of the above... just go to main tab instead of general tab, and use the similar and obviously named button.

So here's a great mac tip for you. apple-comma, aka "⌘," is the "open preferences" keyboard shortcut. All well behaved Mac apps use that, I'm not sure the Apple development environment will even let you change it. Seriously. All well behaved Mac apps also use their preferences panels for pretty much all configuration options.

gus

Nov-14-2007, 12:28 AM

Which browser? :wink

Safari: navigate to page, open preferences, general tab, click "set to current page" button.

Safari..tks heaps mate. Done.

colourbox

Nov-14-2007, 01:16 AM

So here's a great mac tip for you. apple-comma, aka "?," is the "open preferences" keyboard shortcut. All well behaved Mac apps use that, I'm not sure the Apple development environment will even let you change it. Seriously. All well behaved Mac apps also use their preferences panels for pretty much all configuration options.

Except for Adobe apps, which are sticking to the Command-K that they have used since before Apple standardized its prefs shortcut. (Except for Lightroom, which actually uses the Apple shortcut...weird.) At least you can change the Preferences shortcut to match the Apple one in some apps like Photoshop.

Queen

Nov-14-2007, 06:21 AM

wxwax

Nov-14-2007, 06:30 AM

It's time for a new laptop and I'm considering a mac for the first time...can I open a word document with it? And does it have something like "My Pictures"? Can I have/do both of those things without spending more money? :ear
It does have something like My Pictures. It also has built-in software to help you play with photos.

I'm sure you can get free software that will open a Word document. But just like on a Windows machine, to actually create a Word doc, you'll need Microsoft's Office for Mac.

Queen

Nov-14-2007, 07:13 AM

It does have something like My Pictures. It also has built-in software to help you play with photos.

I'm sure you can get free software that will open a Word document. But just like on a Windows machine, to actually create a Word doc, you'll need Microsoft's Office for Mac.
Thanks Sid. I'm not sure if I'll find the Mac "intuitive" enough for my poor computer skills but I'm playing with a co-workers this week to check it out.

Richard

Nov-14-2007, 07:22 AM

It's time for a new laptop and I'm considering a mac for the first time...can I open a word document with it? :ear

Not with what comes installed on the machine, but you can get OpenOffice (http://www.openoffice.org/), which will read and write Word files. It's open source software and is free.

cabbey

Nov-14-2007, 09:08 AM

I'm sure you can get free software that will open a Word document. But just like on a Windows machine, to actually create a Word doc, you'll need Microsoft's Office for Mac.

Actually you can create word documents with several different applications. In addition to MS's Office for Mac:

Pages from iWork (apple) **by far the best of the four options, well worth the $79**

NeoOffice (OpenOffice.org derivative)

OpenOffice (OpenOffice.org)

cabbey

Nov-14-2007, 09:09 AM

Except for Adobe apps, which are sticking to the Command-K that they have used since before Apple standardized its prefs shortcut. (Except for Lightroom, which actually uses the Apple shortcut...weird.) At least you can change the Preferences shortcut to match the Apple one in some apps like Photoshop.

Yeah, well, I did say "well behaved".... :D

DoctorIt

Nov-14-2007, 05:20 PM

Thanks Sid. I'm not sure if I'll find the Mac "intuitive" enough for my poor computer skills but I'm playing with a co-workers this week to check it out.Yo Queenie, I've now nursed both my mom and MrsIt's mom through the switch to Mac. They said the exact same thing as you, about "intuitive"... booooo! It's basically the same thing, the icons and names are just different. No, really.

I'll bet $100 you are suffering from the same thing as my moms: you're too afraid to just click around and try stuff. I have to keep telling mom: "don't worry, you won't break it by clicking on stuff!"

Also, Apple knows it can be a bit intimidating, check out Switch 101 (http://www.apple.com/support/switch101/). :thumb

If gus can do it, anyone can :hide :lol3

DavidTO

Nov-14-2007, 05:33 PM

Queen, check out myfirstmac.com.

And on another note, I'm not allowed to gloat in the Vista thread, but it seems that all they talk about these days is viruses and firewalls (http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?p=682081#post682081). :lol3

Queen

Nov-14-2007, 05:58 PM

Yo Queenie, I've now nursed both my mom and MrsIt's mom through the switch to Mac. They said the exact same thing as you, about "intuitive"... booooo! It's basically the same thing, the icons and names are just different. No, really.

I'll bet $100 you are suffering from the same thing as my moms: you're too afraid to just click around and try stuff. I have to keep telling mom: "don't worry, you won't break it by clicking on stuff!"

Also, Apple knows it can be a bit intimidating, check out Switch 101 (http://www.apple.com/support/switch101/). :thumb

If gus can do it, anyone can :hide :lol3
Listen here you young whippersnapper. :nono

:lol3 I'll check out my friends and see how it goes.

Queen, check out myfirstmac.com.

And on another note, I'm not allowed to gloat in the Vista thread, but it seems that all they talk about these days is viruses and firewalls (http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?p=682081#post682081). :lol3
I spent a week in FL with my folks in March trying to help them get their new computer set up...Vista was designed by SATAN!!! :bluduh

bigwebguy

Nov-14-2007, 07:02 PM

Vista was designed by SATAN!!! :bluduhSo I have a Mac(book pro) already and today got my Mac Pro. Whenever I got a new PC, I had to reinstall all my applications, restore my settings and live w/out all the files I forgot to copy over (after re-imaging the machine to get rid of all the OEM junk).

When I set up my Mac Pro today, I used the Migration Assistant to copy the settings from my laptop...ho-ly-cow. It got *everything*. Applications, files, network settings, preferences, users...even my browser cookies (see note). First time in on the Mac Pro and it was like i'd been using it for a year.

Saved me *days* worth of work getting my computer up and running.

note: It did manage to mangle my password somehow so I couldn't log on. Was able to reset the password using the install disc. After that though, all roses.

colourbox

Nov-14-2007, 07:54 PM

Not with what comes installed on the machine, but you can get OpenOffice (http://www.openoffice.org/), which will read and write Word files. It's open source software and is free.

I set my mom up with NeoOffice which is OpenOffice without all the dependencies. Big and slow but it works and is free.

DavidTO

Nov-14-2007, 08:26 PM

I love Migration Assistant. It's truly great.

Poseidon

Nov-15-2007, 01:13 AM

When I set up my Mac Pro today, I used the Migration Assistant to copy the settings from my laptop...ho-ly-cow. It got *everything*. Applications, files, network settings, preferences, users...even my browser cookies (see note). First time in on the Mac Pro and it was like i'd been using it for a year.

I'll be doing the opposite in a couple of months, I will be getting a MacBook Pro, and I want to copy the programs etc from my MacPro. Will migration assistant leave everything functional on the MacPro? Will it move Lightroom and CS3, and my MS Office to the notebook? Oh, and lastly, will I have to upgrade to Leopard on the MacPro to do this? I was planning on doing that anyway, but not yet....

This would be truly AWESOME, and be a huge time saver for sure!!!

gus

Nov-15-2007, 01:36 AM

Listen here you young whippersnapper. :nono

:lol3 I'll check out my friends and see how it goes.

I spent a week in FL with my folks in March trying to help them get their new computer set up...Vista was designed by SATAN!!! :bluduh
Queenie it is no hassles at all..i just did it & honestly apart from the odd 'wheres this' or 'how do i do that' question..it is almost seamless. Its a better machine without doubt.

You wont regret it.

DoctorIt

Nov-15-2007, 04:36 AM

the leopard has landed :D

upgrade install, so far so good with apps. the only thing that's not so good is the coverflow, my preview images look like crap, super low res. if I hadn't seen gus's the other day, I wouldn't think much of it, but it is truly bad.
:dunno

http://myskitch.com/doctorit/dock-20071115-223929.jpg

i am surprised that it ate up another 6gb worth of space. shouldn't it kind of install itself over the old OS, or is it just that much bigger?

patch29

Nov-15-2007, 05:12 AM

so far so good with apps. the only thing that's not so good is the coverflow, my preview images look like crap, super low res.

i am surprised that it ate up another 6gb worth of space. shouldn't it kind of install itself over the old OS, or is it just that much bigger?

What computer are you using that you see low res cover flow?

Apple should be better about informing people about the upgrades and what is installed. It would be best to do a custom install and not install gigs of print drivers, that is what a huge portion of the upgrade is. I trim down what is installed, but I cannot simply plug into any printer.

DoctorIt

Nov-15-2007, 05:23 AM

What computer are you using that you see low res cover flow?

Apple should be better about informing people about the upgrades and what is installed. It would be best to do a custom install and not install gigs of print drivers, that is what a huge portion of the upgrade is. I trim down what is installed, but I cannot simply plug into any printer.MacBook Pro

and yeah, I used Macaroni to lose about a gb worth of languages

bigwebguy

Nov-15-2007, 06:02 AM

I'll be doing the opposite in a couple of months, I will be getting a MacBook Pro, and I want to copy the programs etc from my MacPro. Will migration assistant leave everything functional on the MacPro? Will it move Lightroom and CS3, and my MS Office to the notebook? Oh, and lastly, will I have to upgrade to Leopard on the MacPro to do this? I was planning on doing that anyway, but not yet....

This would be truly AWESOME, and be a huge time saver for sure!!!I dont have cs3 or MS office installed on my MBP so I can't say for sure about them, however It got every single one of my other applications including all their preferences. It's seriously like i just plugged the HD from my MBP into my Mac Pro.

DavidTO

Nov-15-2007, 07:07 AM

What computer are you using that you see low res cover flow?

I've found the same thing with some PS files that only have little bitty thumbs, and no embedded preview. It's the PS file, not Leopard. :thumb

DavidTO

Nov-15-2007, 07:09 AM

I'll be doing the opposite in a couple of months, I will be getting a MacBook Pro, and I want to copy the programs etc from my MacPro. Will migration assistant leave everything functional on the MacPro? Will it move Lightroom and CS3, and my MS Office to the notebook? Oh, and lastly, will I have to upgrade to Leopard on the MacPro to do this? I was planning on doing that anyway, but not yet....

This would be truly AWESOME, and be a huge time saver for sure!!!

You don't need to upgrade, but I wouldn't move from Leopard to Tiger, if that's what you're asking.

It will not remove anything from the source machine. It will move all applications if you tell it to.

Poseidon

Nov-15-2007, 08:41 AM

I think I have Tiger now don't I? Whatever came with the MacPro... I know the new notebook will come with the new OS, Leopard right? I was just concerned that I would not be able to migrate from the OLD OS to the new OS... It must just be leftover paranoia from my Windows days!

Thanks DavidTO!

I am really looking forward to my new laptop, my Sharp is getting pretty tired, with an AMD 64 2700+ and 512MB RAM, it has a really hard time with my 1DIIN files, even MEDIUM .jpegs take quite a while to open/close on CS2. I am sure the new Mac with more RAM, and a way faster processor, and of course CS3 will make quick work of those files.

Did I read that the new OSX is having issues with Lightroom?

patch29

Nov-15-2007, 08:44 AM

Did I read that the new OSX is having issues with Lightroom?

Yes you did, some details here (http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2007/10/lightroom_12_and_leopard.html) from Adobe.

Poseidon

Nov-15-2007, 09:18 AM

Thanks for that link Patch! I guess I will wait before updating my OS on the MacPro....

patch29

Nov-15-2007, 12:16 PM

10.5.1 has been released. I installed it without any problems.

patch29

Nov-15-2007, 12:17 PM

Thanks for that link Patch! I guess I will wait before updating my OS on the MacPro....

Glad to help, hopefully Adobe will release the Lightroom update soon.

DavidTO

Nov-15-2007, 01:12 PM

Meet Bento. (http://www.bentotrial.com/preview/default.aspx)

Personal database program by Filemaker. Integrates with iCal, Address Book....looks pretty good.

So, after a few days:

it's beta

it's overly simplified in many ways

but it's oh-so easy to set up a relational database

and it looks to be exactly what I needed!!!! :clap

DoctorIt

Nov-15-2007, 02:40 PM

I've found the same thing with some PS files that only have little bitty thumbs, and no embedded preview. It's the PS file, not Leopard. :thumbso far I haven't found a SINGLE jpg that looks good in coverflow, they all look like tiny thumbs. I don't do anything special to my files to save space or anything, so why is it that "all" mine look low-res and "all" of gus's looked big and gorgeous. :scratch

*when I say "all" I obviously don't mean I've checked all several thousand image files on my machine, but a very good portion from several folders over a few years.

DavidTO

Nov-15-2007, 02:44 PM

so far I haven't found a SINGLE jpg that looks good in coverflow, they all look like tiny thumbs. I don't do anything special to my files to save space or anything, so why is it that "all" mine look low-res and "all" of gus's looked big and gorgeous. :scratch

*when I say "all" I obviously don't mean I've checked all several thousand image files on my machine, but a very good portion from several folders over a few years.

I'm pretty sure that it's PS and your settings for saving files, and that you're not embedding a preview. For me, it's only on PS files. Other images look great. Coverflow is beautiful. Really.

DoctorIt

Nov-15-2007, 02:50 PM

For me, it's only on PS files.Oh, good, so like 99% of them. :rolleyes

still doesn't make sense. coverflow can get into .avi .mov etc files and make a little preview, but it can't handle a simple .jpg to resize it's own preview image? not to mention how well (and quickly) it handles RAW file previews...

DavidTO

Nov-15-2007, 02:58 PM

Oh, good, so like 99% of them. :rolleyes

still doesn't make sense. coverflow can get into .avi .mov etc files and make a little preview, but it can't handle a simple .jpg to resize it's own preview image? not to mention how well (and quickly) it handles RAW file previews...

I think it's the way that PS saves them, really. Check your prefs if you want to stop it from happening in the future. :dunno

cmason

Nov-15-2007, 03:45 PM

Perhaps coverflow only uses the embedded thumbnail, and doesnt read the entire file? :dunno

DavidTO

Nov-15-2007, 03:49 PM

Perhaps coverflow only uses the embedded thumbnail, and doesnt read the entire file? :dunno

You can zoom in forever on a PDF.

cmason

Nov-15-2007, 04:51 PM

You can zoom in forever on a PDF.

hmm, I was referring to the fact that PSD, TIF, JPG and some RAW (Canon at least) files provide for an embedded thumbnail. These files do not require a complete rendering, instead the thumbnail is provided for previews. Windows XP for example uses this in its 'thumbnail view'.

patch29

Nov-16-2007, 03:14 AM

Adobe released three updates today for Photoshop, Camera Raw and Lightroom. :clap

The updates can be found on this page (http://www.adobe.com/downloads/updates/).

Van Isle

Nov-16-2007, 06:00 AM

colourbox

Nov-16-2007, 08:15 AM

Howdy...
I though my 6 month old Blacbook was maxed out at 2 GB RAM, but now on the Apple Website (http://www.apple.com/ca/macbook/specs.html) they say that the new Macbooks tap out with 4GB. Is it a different computer (or is Leopard?) or can I shove some 2GB cards in my "old" computer?

I think it's the Intel chipset in use. The current one supports 4GB. Most of the rest of the computer is the same. It is the same reason iMacs and MacBook Pros went from supporting 3GB to 4GB RAM a few months ago. You cannot force an older version to recognize 4GB.

There was also an upgrade to the video subsystem. Otherwise they are still the same MacBooks.

Van Isle

Nov-16-2007, 08:43 AM

Booooo! :D

Thanks for the info.

VI

Giphsub

Nov-20-2007, 12:34 AM

Help! I uninstalled Lightroom on my macbook and tried to reinstall it from the disk, now it says "nothing to install" When I run the installer and it gets to "installation type" What can I do?

I Simonius

Nov-20-2007, 02:39 AM

just noticed these bits in my console log- looked at it after you mentioned firewall - thought Id have alok

Metadata.framework/Versions/A/Support/mdimportserver: _TIFFVSetField: tiff data provider: Invalid tag "Copyright" (not supported by codec).\n
Nov 20 00:37:09 Zaphod mDNSResponder: Repeated transitions for interface en0 (FE80:0000:0000:0000:0211:24FF:FE88:003C); delaying packets by 5 seconds

Is this important?

and in the ipfw log there are loads of 'stealth mode connection attempts na d masses of 'deny' logs- does this mean someones trying to get into my computer?

How does one find out who or what the listed TCP numbers belong to?

I Simonius

Nov-20-2007, 02:40 AM

Help! I uninstalled Lightroom on my macbook and tried to reinstall it from the disk, now it says "nothing to install" When I run the installer and it gets to "installation type" What can I do?

I think I didthat a while back and did a search for every LR or lightroom file and deleted the lot manually , thenit let me reinstall

Giphsub

Nov-20-2007, 04:53 AM

using finder?? Will try it thanks.

Giphsub

Nov-20-2007, 05:21 AM

That did the trick :thumb

Giphsub

Nov-20-2007, 06:25 AM

OK, so I got LR 1.3 installed and imported my backed up catalogue, but now the program is freezing shortly after load up. Has anyone else had this problem??

greenpea

Nov-20-2007, 08:56 AM

OK, so I got LR 1.3 installed and imported my backed up catalogue, but now the program is freezing shortly after load up. Has anyone else had this problem??
I had this problem back with version 1.0. I would launch LR on my MBP and it would constantly say "working..." and 1 of the processors would be pegged at 100%. I tried everything to fix the problem even contacting Adobe support, but ultimnately rebuilding the database is what I had to do to fixed it (supposedly when I later upgraded to version 1.1 that would have fixed it too).

Are you running Leopard?

I Simonius

Nov-20-2007, 11:50 AM

That did the trick :thumb

cool:wink

Giphsub

Nov-20-2007, 03:40 PM

I had this problem back with version 1.0. I would launch LR on my MBP and it would constantly say "working..." and 1 of the processors would be pegged at 100%. I tried everything to fix the problem even contacting Adobe support, but ultimnately rebuilding the database is what I had to do to fixed it (supposedly when I later upgraded to version 1.1 that would have fixed it too).

Are you running Leopard?

Thanks Andrew.

I deleted the imported catalog and tried again, now problem fixed. :thumb

Giphsub

Nov-20-2007, 03:41 PM

cool:wink

Cheers.

greenpea

Nov-20-2007, 04:00 PM

Thanks Andrew.

I deleted the imported catalog and tried again, now problem fixed. :thumb

Glad that fixed your problem, sorry you had to go to that level to fix it though.

Giphsub

Nov-20-2007, 06:36 PM

Well I didn't actually lose anything. Just had to reimport minus the copy new pics function, then redirect LR to find the photos in the location I keep them. Worked well :thumb

I Simonius

Nov-21-2007, 02:25 AM

Well I didn't actually lose anything. Just had to reimport minus the copy new pics function, then redirect LR to find the photos in the location I keep them. Worked well :thumb

you might want to check out the lightroom forum in my sig Giphsub:wink

Giphsub

Nov-21-2007, 06:50 AM

aaah... I will do :thumb

gus

Nov-25-2007, 01:32 PM

W.W. Webster

Nov-25-2007, 01:57 PM

I cant open this link & i get a msg telling me i dont have the reader to do so.It's a PDF, but there may also be a problem with it. However, if you right click on it, you can download the file to your Mac and look at the document there. :thumb

I Simonius

Nov-25-2007, 02:29 PM

Guys...as you may have guessed im new to mac & my mac is new. I cant open this link & i get a msg telling me i dont have the reader to do so.

http://www.navman.com.au/S-Series/files/NAV0147_S-SERIES%2012PP.pdf

What do i need to read it please.

Not sure pdf files should open automatically in the browser, mine do and that link did for me, but..

Try right clicking (control+click) and selecting any option to download it to your desktop then open once it's there

You can right click on it and choose "open with Preview' for example

What you might need though is a few plugins that Ive garnered from here and there, just google them, and choose the originators link, they'll help opening all kinds of stuff

-VLC
-Flip4Mac WMV
-Real player ( the free version)
-Windows media player (WMV)
-Stuffit expander (free version)

BTW a good and easy ftp program is 'Transmit' from Panic software

Check out also these sites for good updates and useful stuff

(just google them or stick a www in front)
-VersionTracker
-Tucows

there are several other will known mac help sites but I havent used them so cant remember them , macfixit is one I think...

Poseidon

Nov-25-2007, 05:45 PM

Gus, that should open in "Preview". Preinstalled on your machine, at least it was on mine...

Poseidon

Nov-25-2007, 05:48 PM

Gus, that should open in "Preview". Preinstalled on your machine, at least it was on mine...

I just went to the Mac, when I click the link I get a dialog box asking what program I want to open it with, select preview and away you go...

gus

Nov-25-2007, 05:54 PM

Tks guys but i cant even get the url to open now. i will keep working on it with your suggestions...ta.

Andy

Nov-25-2007, 06:03 PM

Goodbye Parallels, hello VMware Fusion (https://www.vmware.com/products/fusion/).

Seems to be faster, less clunky and easier to install, use & manage.

DoctorIt

Nov-25-2007, 08:20 PM

Tks guys but i cant even get the url to open now. i will keep working on it with your suggestions...ta.that's because you're looking at Navman (boooo, Garmin and Tom Tom are both better :D)

DavidTO

Nov-25-2007, 09:58 PM

Tks guys but i cant even get the url to open now. i will keep working on it with your suggestions...ta.

Gus, I click on that link and the PDF opens in a Safari window, just fine.

Which browser are you using?

Safari should just view it. Other browsers like FF should save it and give you the option to open in the application of your choosing. Use Preview to view PDFs, as mentioned above.

gus

Nov-25-2007, 09:59 PM

Gus, I click on that link and the PDF opens in a Safari window, just fine.

Which browser are you using?

Safari.

DavidTO

Nov-25-2007, 10:03 PM

Safari.

What's the error you're getting?

gus

Nov-25-2007, 10:19 PM

What's the error you're getting?

ist error was simply that i dont have a programme to open the file & from that point on i just get a full black page with no msg.

I just did a save to desktop & it opened fine.:dunno

DavidTO

Nov-25-2007, 10:23 PM

ist error was simply that i dont have a programme to open the file & from that point on i just get a full black page with no msg.

I just did a save to desktop & it opened fine.:dunno

How about this one (http://dsrcontact.googlepages.com/ScotlandRegistration.pdf)? Can you see that one?

gus

Nov-25-2007, 10:24 PM

How about this one (http://dsrcontact.googlepages.com/ScotlandRegistration.pdf)? Can you see that one?
Nup...full black page.

DavidTO

Nov-25-2007, 10:27 PM

Nup...full black page.

It sounds like Adobe is mucking it up. Try this (http://shimshak.iblogget.com/2007/11/07/view-pdf-files-in-safari-3/).

gus

Nov-25-2007, 10:38 PM

It sounds like Adobe is mucking it up. Try this (http://shimshak.iblogget.com/2007/11/07/view-pdf-files-in-safari-3/).
You get that doc...its yours next time your over. tks TO

DoctorIt

Nov-25-2007, 11:03 PM

You get that doc...its yours next time your over. tks TOYes Sir.

You could also just use a real man's browser, like FireFox :hide

gus

Nov-29-2007, 02:48 AM

Ok..safari

I was foolin' around & ive lost my white bar up the top where you type your URL in.

Any ideas to get it back please. I spent an hour looking myself.

blalor

Nov-29-2007, 04:16 AM

Ok..safari

I was foolin' around & ive lost my white bar up the top where you type your URL in.

Any ideas to get it back please. I spent an hour looking myself.
That might be the toolbar. You can show or hide that by going to View -> Show Toolbar (or typing ⌘|). If the toolbar *is* showing, you may have "customized" the location away. Go to View -> Customize Toolbar... and drag the address and search widget into the toolbar.

eoren1

Nov-29-2007, 06:29 AM

not sure if this is the correct thread for this question but here goes...

Just bought my first mac - the 2.2 macbook - and am trying to get my screen saver to work with rss feeds from my smugmug account. I pulled up the rss feed in safari for my favorites gallery and pasted that into the options section of the desktop and screen saver config. I get a message that there are no images to display. I added a second rss feed (recent photos) but still nothing.

Any suggestions?
Thanks,
E

ChrisJ

Nov-29-2007, 09:54 AM

blalor

Nov-29-2007, 10:06 AM

I tried to dock the second copy of X to the task bar and delete the other one... no luck, it still creates a second copy.

Right-click on each one and choose "reveal in finder". Do they point to the same place? My guess would be that they don't. Not sure how to fix it in either case, tho. :)

Have you tried removing the copy that you added manually and retaining the "new" one by right-clicking and choosing "Keep in dock"?

DavidTO

Nov-29-2007, 10:10 AM

That might be the toolbar. You can show or hide that by going to View -> Show Toolbar (or typing ⌘|). If the toolbar *is* showing, you may have "customized" the location away. Go to View -> Customize Toolbar... and drag the address and search widget into the toolbar.

:agree

DavidTO

Nov-29-2007, 10:12 AM

I have a PowerBook G4 at work with a fresh install of Leopard on it. I dock X11 to the taskbar from the Applications menu. Every time I start it, a second copy of X shows up in the task bar. The second one has the "active" dot displayed under it.

I tried to dock the second copy of X to the task bar and delete the other one... no luck, it still creates a second copy.

Any way to avoid this duplication? It's only a very minor annoyance, but it didn't happen under Jaguar or Tiger (I think).

First off, it's the Dock, not the Taskbar. :deal

:D

Secondly, I've seen that on a couple of oddball apps. X11 fits the bill for oddball, IMO. I would just live with it. Some things just aren't worth fretting over, IMO.

ChrisJ

Nov-29-2007, 10:42 AM

First off, it's the Dock, not the Taskbar. :deal

:D

Secondly, I've seen that on a couple of oddball apps. X11 fits the bill for oddball, IMO. I would just live with it. Some things just aren't worth fretting over, IMO.
D'oh, sorry, still fairly new to this Macinslosh stuff :wink.

Yes, they definitely point to different applications. /usr/X11/X11 and /Application/Utilities/X11. If I move the former to the tas... Dock(!) and execute it, then it bounces around endlessly after spawning the second X. Ack!

I suppose I'll just live with it barring an extensive Google search (the "Keep in Dock" did not work either).

gus

Nov-29-2007, 11:00 AM

Go to View -> Customize Toolbar... and drag the address and search widget into the toolbar.

Yeah this is my issue but i cant drag & drop it...it just jumps every time.

DavidTO

Nov-29-2007, 11:05 AM

Yeah this is my issue but i cant drag & drop it...it just jumps every time.

Make sure your View menu looks like this:

http://myskitch.com/davidrosenthal/picture_1-20071129-110508.jpg

If it says Show Toolbar, that means it's hidden. You want it to show.

gus

Nov-29-2007, 11:09 AM

Make sure your View menu looks like this:

http://myskitch.com/davidrosenthal/picture_1-20071129-110508.jpg

If it says Show Toolbar, that means it's hidden. You want it to show.

Well i checked that & yes..it did read as your pic so i didnt touch it...i went & did the drag & drop thing again & it worked:dunno

Im cool..ta guys.

blalor

Nov-29-2007, 11:12 AM

Im cool..ta guys.
I love it when a plan comes together.

cabbey

Nov-29-2007, 07:39 PM

D'oh, sorry, still fairly new to this Macinslosh stuff :wink.

Yes, they definitely point to different applications. /usr/X11/X11 and /Application/Utilities/X11. If I move the former to the tas... Dock(!) and execute it, then it bounces around endlessly after spawning the second X. Ack!

I suppose I'll just live with it barring an extensive Google search (the "Keep in Dock" did not work either).

I've had that happen on Tiger... not sure what caused it. Solution was to quit X11, drag ALL instances of it off the dock, then drag a fresh new copy on from /Applications/Utilities/X11. Once I did that that problem went away.