The Watermark Thread

[Andy]

Ask your questions here!

SmugMug Help - Watermarking (http://www.smugmug.com/help/custom-watermark-protection)

Some tips:

Make it readable!
Use smooth, anti-aliased fonts
Experiment with the "fade amount" and get it juuust enough but not too strong



Another tip from Anne McBean:

Maybe this isn't not clear enough in the help section, but the watermarking in "customize gallery" refers to the automatic watermarking SmugMug can do as you add photos to that gallery.

For removing or adding watermarks after they are in a gallery, use the "watermarking" photo tool. You'll be able to select photos in bulk.

Note: No need to remove the proof watermark first, just add a different watermark and it will replace the PROOF automagically.

[marlinspike]

If I edit a custom watermark within smugmug, do I need to rewatermark the photos, or is it automatically done (lets say if I change the fade)?

[limbik]

Just have to say thanks for the custom watermarks!!! Was hoping this would happen from day 1, now smugmug has achieved world domination.... bwahahaha! :clap

Anyhow, I would like to add that sizing seems to be a small issue, nothing major, but as a matter of convenience mostly. It would be ideal if a single watermark would have a proportional size, rather than its static size and if there were a slider to set "size" at the time we also set transparency. Just mt 2c, otherwise, BRAVO!!

[Andy]

If I edit a custom watermark within smugmug, do I need to rewatermark the photos, or is it automatically done (lets say if I change the fade)?
You must re-watermark any previously watermarked photos.

[pat.kane]

Just a heads up that applying a watermark will reset any Zoom Thumbnail that you've previously applied to the image.

[Andy]

Just a heads up that applying a watermark will reset any Zoom Thumbnail that you've previously applied to the image.
:nod as will any action on an image: color effects, cropping, etc...

[Barb]

Andy, I have Photoshop CS, but it will not run on my MacBook. Won't even start. Was hoping it would run in Rosetta, but no go. Would love to make a custom watermark. Any other program you could suggest on the Mac?

[Andy]

Andy, I have Photoshop CS, but it will not run on my MacBook. Won't even start. Was hoping it would run in Rosetta, but no go. Would love to make a custom watermark. Any other program you could suggest on the Mac?

I was not aware that CS won't run on a Macbook. Isn't it time you upgaded to CS2? :ear

[Barb]

I was not aware that CS won't run on a Macbook. Isn't it time you upgaded to CS2? :ear

Well, yes, I would love to. And will do that when I can. For now, I think I've figured something else out :)

[Andy]

For now, I think I've figured something else out :)
:ear

[Barb]

:ear

cooltext.com ... not perfect, but will work for me for now :) You can see it here (http://photoscapedesign.smugmug.com/gallery/1234970/1/72010883/Large).

[brandofamily]

cooltext.com ... not perfect, but will work for me for now :) You can see it here (http://photoscapedesign.smugmug.com/gallery/1234970/1/72010883/Large).
Barb, if you gave me the specifics of what you want
font
text size
color
width and height
and exact wording, I'd be happy to creat you one in PSCS2 and e-mail it to you... send me either an e-mail or PM if you want my aid...

[sherstone]

WOW- this is great that you have added this feature - SUPER HAPPY!

I have found a few possible bugs in the system

If I use the "Internet Explorer" activeX up loader it won't let you upload a PNG

If you try to crop a PNG using the cropping tools it errors out.

Nothing serious as there are work arounds but thought you guys may like to know.

:thumb

[Andy]

WOW- this is great that you have added this feature - SUPER HAPPY!

I have found a few possible bugs in the system

If I use the "Internet Explorer" activeX up loader it won't let you upload a PNG


Use the Standard Uploader, or the Universal Drag and Drop.

[Ann McRae]

FWIW, instructions for making the watermark as .png are identical for PSP X as they are for PSCS.

ann

[bham]

Are png files supposed to look weird, except in original size?

[Andy]

Are png files supposed to look weird, except in original size?
yes.

[JBurt]

When I go into control panel to install and proof my custom watermark it doesn't show on the sample image. I can set the fade but then have to put it on an actual image in a gallery to proof it then go back to adjust and try again. When I put it on my images it shows just fine. It just doesn't show on the proof sample. A minor inconvenience but...

Transparent PNG image.
PC winXP - Firefox.

[Andy]

When I go into control panel to install and proof my custom watermark it doesn't show on the sample image. I can set the fade but then have to put it on an actual image in a gallery to proof it then go back to adjust and try again. When I put it on my images it shows just fine. It just doesn't show on the proof sample. A minor inconvenience but...

Transparent PNG image.
PC winXP - Firefox.
small pngs aren't being rendered in that view, but JT's already fixed that and we'll roll it out with the next patch. Shan't be long.

[JBurt]

small pngs aren't being rendered in that view, but JT's already fixed that and we'll roll it out with the next patch. Shan't be long.
Thanx Andy

[johng]

OK,

I created a watermark per the instructions - OK
Uploaded the watermark and did the 'make into watermark', and it shows up on the test image just fine.

But when I try to add it to my images, nothing shows up in the images - they remain without a watermark if they had none before or with the 'proof' watermark if I try to replace. What am I doing wrong?

site = www.jagsportsphotos.com (http://www.jagsportsphotos.com)

[Andy]

OK,

I created a watermark per the instructions - OK
Uploaded the watermark and did the 'make into watermark', and it shows up on the test image just fine.

But when I try to add it to my images, nothing shows up in the images - they remain without a watermark if they had none before or with the 'proof' watermark if I try to replace. What am I doing wrong?

site = www.jagsportsphotos.com (http://www.jagsportsphotos.com)
Pls link me to the images you are trying to watermark - a gallery link, please :D

Are the images larger than 800px on the longest side?

[johng]

Pls link me to the images you are trying to watermark - a gallery link, please :D

Are the images larger than 800px on the longest side?

Here's the gallery:
http://www.john-g.smugmug.com/gallery/1321146

Even if I select a large image (which is greater than 800px) I still don't see the watermark

[Andy]

Here's the gallery:
http://www.john-g.smugmug.com/gallery/1321146

Even if I select a large image (which is greater than 800px) I still don't see the watermark

They're processing, standby.

[rainforest1155]

I'm also having trouble. I just tried applying a watermark to this gallery (http://rainforest1155.smugmug.com/gallery/150977). The first 3 pictures are full size, but the WM doesn't show up - even after a couple of minutes. Strange is that the rest of the pictures that aren't full size pics show a 'photo not found' message instead of the pic.

Any idea?

Thanks,
Sebastian

[Andy]

I'm also having trouble. I just tried applying a watermark to this gallery (http://rainforest1155.smugmug.com/gallery/150977). The first 3 pictures are full size, but the WM doesn't show up - even after a couple of minutes. Strange is that the rest of the pictures that aren't full size pics show a 'photo not found' message instead of the pic.

Any idea?

Thanks,
Sebastian
Checking, standby.

[Andy]

They're processing, standby.

Guys, we're experiencing a huge amount of new watermarking - and the new feature is really popular! Things should settle down soon as folks get photos re-watermarked.

More as I get it!

[johng]

Guys, we're experiencing a huge amount of new watermarking - and the new feature is really popular! Things should settle down soon as folks get photos re-watermarked.

More as I get it!
Just wanted to bring some closure to this - things have been working great today. I've been able to add the watermark to galleries I wanted to without any undue delay.

Thanks again for the wonderful new features - I love the fact you're eliciting and reacting to your customers' requests:clap

[Mike Lane]

I must say my first adventure in watermarking went swimmingly. Have a look see in this gallery (http://mikelane.smugmug.com/gallery/1724314).

[rainforest1155]

Checking, standby.
Did you see the 'photo not found' message? It's gone for me today, but looking at the image urls (no -1 added) embedded into the page it still hasn't tried reprocessing the pictures with my watermark.
I applied watermarking to another gallery (http://rainforest1155.smugmug.com/gallery/122310). No watermark either. Is anything wrong with my png?

Thanks,
Sebastian

[Ken CCP]

Guys, we're experiencing a huge amount of new watermarking - and the new feature is really popular! Things should settle down soon as folks get photos re-watermarked.

More as I get it!

I bet you are!!! :clap :clap :clap :clap :thumb
As a grumpy person due to this one feature.. to sign on tonight and find that and digital downloads and back printing that is cool I will ask no questions I haven't tried anything yet

But you should have seen the Grin when I was customizing my gallery and came across the choose watermark option!!! :D

Thank you Thank You Thank You!!!

[Bodley]

I must say my first adventure in watermarking went swimmingly. Have a look see in this gallery (http://mikelane.smugmug.com/gallery/1724314).

Okay - How'd ya do it? I can do the clear embossed look in CS2 but not sure how to create this look for my SM watermark.

[Andy]

I must say my first adventure in watermarking went swimmingly. Have a look see in this gallery (http://mikelane.smugmug.com/gallery/1724314).
VERY NICE Mike! :clap

[Mike Lane]

Okay - How'd ya do it? I can do the clear embossed look in CS2 but not sure how to create this look for my SM watermark.

Here you go (http://mikelane2.smugmug.com/gallery/1244058/), a tutorial all about creating the clear beveled watermark look in photoshop and using that as your watermark on your smugmug site. Enjoy. :thumb

[gus]

Here you go (http://mikelane2.smugmug.com/gallery/1244058/), a tutorial all about creating the clear beveled watermark look in photoshop and using that as your watermark on your smugmug site. Enjoy. :thumb

3 attemps & 2 hours later i still cant get it...god i hate computers. Anyone else got this going from mikes plan ?

[Bodley]

3 attemps & 2 hours later i still cant get it...god i hate computers. Anyone else got this going from mikes plan ?

Worked like a charm for me :thumb THANKS MIKE :clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap

Gus - make sure you do some additional work, such as emboss, to your text after you remove the fill.

[Mike Lane]

3 attemps & 2 hours later i still cant get it...god i hate computers. Anyone else got this going from mikes plan ? How can I help Gus? Do you have your attempts up online somewhere? :ear

[claudermilk]

I think we should all just use Mike's example. Straight to the point. :rofl

Got my old PS action tweaked to generate a nice watermark & with a minor hiccup it works great. The hiccup? For whatever reason the preview & list of current watermarks shows me nothing, but after applying it I'm seeing what I expect. In the end, my images are marked so I'm not going to worry much about it--likely user error somewhere.

[Mike Lane]

I think we should all just use Mike's example. Straight to the point. :rofl

Got my old PS action tweaked to generate a nice watermark & with a minor hiccup it works great. The hiccup? For whatever reason the preview & list of current watermarks shows me nothing, but after applying it I'm seeing what I expect. In the end, my images are marked so I'm not going to worry much about it--likely user error somewhere.

:doh An action! That would have been so simple and obvious!

[SamirD]

OMG!!! SM has watermarking!!! And a bunch of other features!!! I'm so happy I almost cried when I saw the blog! :clap :thumb :clap :thumb :clap :1drink :): :lust

Now I have to find the time to set up all the new features. :huh :D

[Art Scott]

My portfolio gallery is not watermarked at this time but I have set a water mark for my "Art for your WAlls" gallery....but I find that when I move a copy from portfolio to Art..... gallery they are not watermarked.
Do I have to do a completely new upload for the watermaking to happen?

[Andy]

My portfolio gallery is not watermarked at this time but I have set a water mark for my "Art for your WAlls" gallery....but I find that when I move a copy from portfolio to Art..... gallery they are not watermarked.
Do I have to do a completely new upload for the watermaking to happen?
Not a new upload, but for photos you've moved, that aren't watermarked, you can use the watermark tool under photo tools after you've moved it. OK?

[rainforest1155]

Not a new upload, but for photos you've moved, that aren't watermarked, you can use the watermark tool under photo tools after you've moved it. OK?
Thanks for the tip - worked for my galleries where the watermark setting just wouldn't do anything. So far turning on the watermark gallery wide worked only on new galleries for me. Any idea why?

Thanks,
Sebastian

EDIT: PS: The manual watermarking function via photo tools also watermarks pictures of just 800x600! Haven't tried it for smaller pictures yet, but I would like how this turns out.

EDIT2: You can even upsample a 800x600 picture to any picture size you like with still having the watermark on.

[rainforest1155]

Okay here's something with watermarking/custom size I don't understand:

With originals turned off the 1000px (http://rainforest1155.smugmug.com/photos/76960615-1000x1000.jpg) wide picture and even the 1600px (http://rainforest1155.smugmug.com/photos/76960615-1600x1600.jpg) one has a watermark - of course these are upsampled from the 800px large image. (gallery link (http://rainforest1155.smugmug.com/gallery/150977/1/76960615/Large)).

BUT when I turn on originals the 1600px (http://rainforest1155.smugmug.com/photos/46184985-1600x1600.jpg) wide picture doesn't have a watermark anymore, while the 1000px (http://rainforest1155.smugmug.com/photos/46184985-1000x1000.jpg) one still has it. (gallery link (http://rainforest1155.smugmug.com/gallery/122310/1/46184985/Large)).
Why isn't my bigger photo protected anymore? That confused me a lot as I wanted to use a bigger photo for ebay, but then it hadn't my name on it anymore. I ended up uploading a manually watermarked photo.

Thanks,
Sebastian

[Trish323]

..Followed Andy's tut for watermark.(Thank you!)..saved for web and as png. file...but smugmug won't allow png. upload..when uploaded as JPG the background is not transparent....was a step missing in the tut or more likely......what did I miss???

[brandofamily]

..Followed Andy's tut for watermark.(Thank you!)..saved for web and as png. file...but smugmug won't allow png. upload..when uploaded as JPG the background is not transparent....was a step missing in the tut or more likely......what did I miss???if you use the drag and drop method of upload SM will take it.....I could not get send to SM to do it though...
Than view as original and you should see the transparent version...

[Trish323]

if you use the drag and drop method of upload SM will take it.....I could not get send to SM to do it though...
Than view as original and you should see the transparent version...

The drag and drop doesn't work for png either:dunno

[brandofamily]

The drag and drop doesn't work for png either:dunno
I used the universal drag and drop w/ multiple successes.

[Andy]

..Followed Andy's tut for watermark.(Thank you!)..saved for web and as png. file...but smugmug won't allow png. upload..when uploaded as JPG the background is not transparent....was a step missing in the tut or more likely......what did I miss???
Use the universal Drag and Drop, with a png-24 file. If you are still haveing trouble, Trish, email it to the help desk we'll take a look at it.

[Trish323]

I used the universal drag and drop w/ multiple successes.

Thank you!

[Trish323]

Use the universal Drag and Drop, with a png-24 file. If you are still haveing trouble, Trish, email it to the help desk we'll take a look at it.

Hi Andy!

Thanks. Maybe add that little tidbit of info on the watermarking tutorial?

Good work at SmugMug! :lust

[Daddio]

Maybe I'm missing something, but how do you turn OFF the ability for people to purchase digital downloads?

Even though I put zero (or no price) in the price column for the digital downloads I still see that users can purchase the 1MP personal download. For some galleries I don't want ANY downloads.

[Dna]

Maybe I'm missing something, but how do you turn OFF the ability for people to purchase digital downloads?

Even though I put zero (or no price) in the price column for the digital downloads I still see that users can purchase the 1MP personal download. For some galleries I don't want ANY downloads.Are you logged on ?
Try logging out and purchasing a photo.

Dna

[Andy]

Maybe I'm missing something, but how do you turn OFF the ability for people to purchase digital downloads?

Even though I put zero (or no price) in the price column for the digital downloads I still see that users can purchase the 1MP personal download. For some galleries I don't want ANY downloads.
Hi, gallery link please?

[Daddio]

Ahhh...now I get it. Big difference between setting the price to ZERO vs. leaving it blank.

Sorry, thought I'd tried that already!

[SamirD]

So here we go. I've found the time to try playing with some watermarking. :clap

I have a logo that is basically a graphic version of text typed in a particular font. The original format is a bmp. I do not have the font. I can cut and paste this into any other graphic format using irfanview. I do not have any other graphics program other than windows paint. :huh

What I want to do is make this embossed into the photos like VH1 used to do on TV back in the day. (If anyone actually remembers that. :rofl) If that's too complicated, I'd just want a translucent version of the logo that I can place in the corner of every photo.

Any assistance appreciated. I'm not sure how the whole clear thing can be done with the limited tools I have. :dunno

[Andy]

So here we go. I've found the time to try playing with some watermarking. :clap

I have a logo that is basically a graphic version of text typed in a particular font. The original format is a bmp. I do not have the font. I can cut and paste this into any other graphic format using irfanview. I do not have any other graphics program other than windows paint. :huh

What I want to do is make this embossed into the photos like VH1 used to do on TV back in the day. (If anyone actually remembers that. :rofl) If that's too complicated, I'd just want a translucent version of the logo that I can place in the corner of every photo.

Any assistance appreciated. I'm not sure how the whole clear thing can be done with the limited tools I have. :dunno
Great question for the Finishing School. Post it there, the experts can let you know. I don't know about Irfanview, I'm sorry...

[SamirD]

Great question for the Finishing School. Post it there, the experts can let you know. I don't know about Irfanview, I'm sorry...Thank you for the quick reply Andy. I'll post it there and see what happens. I can't wait to get started on having everything watermarked. I'm sure I'll gain quite a bit of referral traffic from all the sites where my photos are linked. :thumb

[Mike Lane]

:doh An action! That would have been so simple and obvious!

I got your action right here (http://www.mikelanestudios.com/Smugmug%20Watermark.atn).

[SamirD]

I got your action right here (http://www.mikelanestudios.com/Smugmug%20Watermark.atn).:rofl :rofl :rofl That just didn't sound right when I first saw it in my email...

[HDVideo]

This gallery (http://www.hdvideo.smugmug.com/gallery/1134168) had a watermark applied to all photos using the watermark option in Photo Tools. Two pictures in the gallery were not updated. If you select one of the individual pictures (http://www.hdvideo.smugmug.com/gallery/1134168/2/55370168/Medium) and look at Photo Tools, the Watermark option is not there.

I selected a different picture, selected the watermark tool and tried to apply it again to the two affected pictures, but it still doesn't show. Any idea what's happening here? I've got at least one other gallery with the same problem.

Thanks

[ivar]

This gallery (http://www.hdvideo.smugmug.com/gallery/1134168) had a watermark applied to all photos using the watermark option in Photo Tools. Two pictures in the gallery were not updated. If you select one of the individual pictures (http://www.hdvideo.smugmug.com/gallery/1134168/2/55370168/Medium) and look at Photo Tools, the Watermark option is not there.

I selected a different picture, selected the watermark tool and tried to apply it again to the two affected pictures, but it still doesn't show. Any idea what's happening here? I've got at least one other gallery with the same problem.

ThanksDo both pictures have one side larger then 800px?

look under the gotcha's to make sure you are not affected by them http://www.smugmug.com/help/custom-watermark-protection (all the way at the bottom)

[HDVideo]

Do both pictures have one side larger then 800px?

look under the gotcha's to make sure you are not affected by them http://www.smugmug.com/help/custom-watermark-protection (all the way at the bottom)
Thanks for the prompt reply. I think that must be it. The 800px minimum applies to the original file uploaded, right?

[ivar]

Thanks for the prompt reply. I think that must be it. The 800px minimum applies to the original file uploaded, right?Yes, that is correct. The original image needs to have a side of 801px or greater.

[HDVideo]

Yes, that is correct. The original image needs to have a side of 801px or greater.
Thanks again. I'll fix it.

[Mike Lane]

It just occurred to me that the watermarking could be used to do some cool stuff. Check out this gallery: http://mikelane.smugmug.com/gallery/1407018/1/66616171

See the rounded corners that the images have? That's a watermark and therefore won't be printed with the image. You can create any border or corner effect that you want with a few conditions. First off, if you're going to do something like those rounded corners then you will have to match up the aspect ratio of your images. The images in my gallery that I linked have an aspect ratio of 3:2 so my watermark was 800px by 533px (800 is the largest that one side of a watermark can be). If I had portrait oriented shots then I'd also have to do a watermark that was 533px x 800px (or copy the current one and rotate the copy :thumb). If I had non-standard sized crops (compared to the rest of my site) or panoramics or whatever, then each of those images would require its own corner watermark image. Your images will also have to be on a plain color background. And if you change the color of your background, you'll also have to change the color of your watermark and manually adjust every single photo that is watermarked. This technique may not work for those of you who are changing your site design all the time. The watermark obviously cannot go past the borders of the image. So if you've got an idea for a fancy distressed border look or something else cool, you won't be able to make it extend past the borders of the image itself. Also watermarks don't get added to original sized images.

If you're interested in how i created the rounded corners let me know, it's really not that difficult.

[Cindy]

Would appriciate your thoughts & suggestions regarding this watermark I made. It is the same watermark placed on 3 different photos... certainly works much better on some than others (namely solids)... what should I do to improve it? I don't want a mark that makes the pics ugly... but I do want to protect them enough from all the local kids stealing them... btw: you wouldn't believe how many kids have asked me why they can't copy & paste my photos anymore without getting those marks on them - lol! Yeah smugmug!!!

http://www.inspiringdesigns.net/photos/91393052-S.jpg

Here's one of my first macro's taken with my new 105 VR... I'm lovin this lens... need lots of practice though - macro is challenging. :rofl
http://www.inspiringdesigns.net/photos/91888436-S-1.jpg

http://www.inspiringdesigns.net/photos/68819146-S-1.jpg

[j-bo]

I like smugmugs "proof". It's nice and large and perfect opacity and such. However, I'd like to add my ©motoximages.com right underneath it.

I don't know what font/size/color,etc. smugmugs is. Is there an easy way to do this?

Here's the one I did and I'd like the "proof" part to be spread out more across the photo. Any suggestions would be mucho appreciado!

http://motoximages.smugmug.com/photos/80821043-M-1.jpg

[j-bo]

okay.. nevermind. I figured it out. :):

[dogwood]

okay.. nevermind. I figured it out. :):

Yeah, I like the PROOF too-- very simple and straight forward. But I love your idea of adding your own touch to it-- just may be how I customize my own watermarks. I've tried others but they just don't seem to work as well as that PROOF. Thanks for the idea.

[j-bo]

This is what I settled on:

http://motoximages.smugmug.com/photos/86566289-M-1.jpg

[Andy]

This is what I settled on:

http://motoximages.smugmug.com/photos/86566289-M-1.jpg
You don't have external links on for that gallery, here is the shot you meant to have show up inline, yes?

http://motoximages.smugmug.com/gallery/1748840/5/86566289/Large

[j-bo]

You don't have external links on for that gallery, here is the shot you meant to have show up inline, yes?

http://motoximages.smugmug.com/gallery/1748840/5/86566289/Large

Yes... how embarassing. I forgot I turned them all off. Thanks.

[bham]

I created a 4000 x 4000 pixel watermark so that it would more than cover my images whether landscape or portrait, yet it isn't doing that. Whats the deal?

[SteveM]

I created a 4000 x 4000 pixel watermark so that it would more than cover my images whether landscape or portrait, yet it isn't doing that. Whats the deal?

Can we have a link to your site and a gallery/photo so we can see how this 4000x4000px is being applied?

Thanks,
Steve
http://www.downriverphotography.com

[ivar]

I created a 4000 x 4000 pixel watermark so that it would more than cover my images whether landscape or portrait, yet it isn't doing that. Whats the deal?Hi bham, watermarks keep their aspect ratio and get resized to fit the photo.

Have you read our watermark tutorial (http://dgrin.smugmug.com/gallery/1690196)? you can also have smaller watermarks tiled.

[bham]

Hi bham, watermarks keep their aspect ratio and get resized to fit the photo.

Have you read our watermark tutorial (http://dgrin.smugmug.com/gallery/1690196)? you can also have smaller watermarks tiled.

I did read the tutorial. What I have created is a watermark repeated over and over. Didn't realize you could tile. That may solve it. I will try that.

[ivar]

I did read the tutorial. What I have created is a watermark repeated over and over. Didn't realize you could tile. That may solve it. I will try that.Make a small watermark and have it tiled :thumb

[bham]

Make a small watermark and have it tiled :thumb

That did it.

[truth]

When you make a bulk setting change to multiple galleries is the watermark setting adjusted as well?

[Andy]

When you make a bulk setting change to multiple galleries is the watermark setting adjusted as well?
Yes indeed :)

http://www.smugmug.com/help/picture-storage

[truth]

But that just changes the watermark setting for new photos uploaded. It does not add watermarks to photos that are not watermarked...correct? I'm under the impression that I need to go into each gallery and watermark them, I can not make a bulk change to all galleries adding watermakrs to every photo.

[ivar]

But that just changes the watermark setting for new photos uploaded. It does not add watermarks to photos that are not watermarked...correct? I'm under the impression that I need to go into each gallery and watermark them, I can not make a bulk change to all galleries adding watermakrs to every photo.Correct :thumb

[wslam]

It seems that watermarked images get more JPG compression artifact then otherwise. Is that true? or am I imagining things?

[Andy]

It seems that watermarked images get more JPG compression artifact then otherwise. Is that true? or am I imagining things?Hi, they do not. They get the same (very little) as our non-watermarked images. We actually reduced the amout of compression on our resized images, to gain higher display quality, a few months back:
http://blogs.smugmug.com/release-notes/2006/03/17/new-features-march-16-2006/

[xtnomad]

Are my eyes playing tricks or what? Are watermarks in color now? Or have they been?
http://sportshots.smugmug.com/photos/116723004-L-3.jpg

Can you see what I am seeing or is my computer playing tricks with me? I was playing with a new logo and trying to see if I could make a watermark with it and on my screen and I see colors in it. Can You?

[Mike Lane]

Are my eyes playing tricks or what? Are watermarks in color now? Or have they been?
http://sportshots.smugmug.com/photos/116723004-L-3.jpg

Can you see what I am seeing or is my computer playing tricks with me? I was playing with a new logo and trying to see if I could make a watermark with it and on my screen and I see colors in it. Can You?You mean the purple and gold swirl thingy? Yeah, I see that.

[ivar]

Are watermarks in color now? Or have they been?It's always been possible to use color in your custom watermark :thumb

[xtnomad]

Thank You! I was expecting it to default to gray scale. :barb

[Jeffro]

I like smugmugs "proof". It's nice and large and perfect opacity and such. However, I'd like to add my ©motoximages.com right underneath it.

I don't know what font/size/color,etc. smugmugs is. Is there an easy way to do this?

Here's the one I did and I'd like the "proof" part to be spread out more across the photo. Any suggestions would be mucho appreciado!

Was this question ever answered? :dunno I like the smug "PROOF" as it covers every image just right...and lord knows I can't make my custom one do that. It would be nice to add my own text above and below the smug "PROOF". I only have PS Elements 3.0 BTW.

I've played with the watermarking quite a bit, but I have never gotten one to fit over the image the way I like it, in both Landscape and Portrait. I'm thinking about giving up......:scratch

[Andy]

Was this question ever answered? :dunno I like the smug "PROOF" as it covers every image just right...and lord knows I can't make my custom one do that. It would be nice to add my own text above and below the smug "PROOF". I only have PS Elements 3.0 BTW.

I've played with the watermarking quite a bit, but I have never gotten one to fit over the image the way I like it, in both Landscape and Portrait. I'm thinking about giving up......:scratch
Try something like 200pt Myriad, but really, any font will do...

Don't give up!

[Jeffro]

Try something like 200pt Myriad, but really, any font will do...

Don't give up!

There in lies the problem....I can only go up to 72pt...I guess I'll have to start saving the pennies for CS2.....:huh

[marlinspike]

I've played with the watermarking quite a bit, but I have never gotten one to fit over the image the way I like it, in both Landscape and Portrait. I'm thinking about giving up......:scratch

I made my diagonal and it seems to work on both landscape and portrait for my needs
http://Davidson.smugmug.com/photos/117443088-M-1.jpg
http://Davidson.smugmug.com/photos/126250081-M-1.jpg

[Andy]

There in lies the problem....I can only go up to 72pt...I guess I'll have to start saving the pennies for CS2.....:huh
Try typing in the # or just use image>image size> and increase the size :D

[The Scribe of Light]

....but it's my first time putting something up that I hope to sell images.

The watermarks - they're for online viewing only right? They go away on the print right? As long as I use the watermark feature in the gallery and don't add it myself that is.

Thanks

[Andy]

....but it's my first time putting something up that I hope to sell images.

The watermarks - they're for online viewing only right? They go away on the print right? As long as I use the watermark feature in the gallery and don't add it myself that is.

ThanksCorrect :thumb

[David Tomic]

I'm not sure if this has already been raised yet [I haven't been able to read all 10 pages of this thread], but I'm having issues with custom watermarks & replacing photos.

It seems theat when I replace a photo, SmugMug defaults back to the standard 'proof' watermark for the shot, instead of using the same watermark I had before.

That means that I then have to go and manually re-apply the watermark for each shot as well.

I'd just like to know if this is something which you're already aware of, and whether it's something that's likely to get fixed/changed?

[Andy]

I'm not sure if this has already been raised yet [I haven't been able to read all 10 pages of this thread], but I'm having issues with custom watermarks & replacing photos.

It seems theat when I replace a photo, SmugMug defaults back to the standard 'proof' watermark for the shot, instead of using the same watermark I had before.

That means that I then have to go and manually re-apply the watermark for each shot as well.

I'd just like to know if this is something which you're already aware of, and whether it's something that's likely to get fixed/changed?
Hi David, link me to a photo in question, please? It doesn't work that way for me. What gallery, too - I need to see the gallery settings you have for watermarking :D

[David Tomic]

Hi David, link me to a photo in question, please?
I've already [manually] re-applied the correct watermark to the shots.

It doesn't work that way for me. What gallery, too - I need to see the gallery settings you have for watermarking :D
Watermaking isn't enabled by default in the gallery, because I'm using different watermarks for different shots.

Does that have something to do with it perhaps?

FWIW though, the gallery is here. (http://www.davidtomic.com/gallery/2618867)

[Andy]

I've already [manually] re-applied the correct watermark to the shots.


Watermaking isn't enabled by default in the gallery, because I'm using different watermarks for different shots.

Does that have something to do with it perhaps?

FWIW though, the gallery is here. (http://www.davidtomic.com/gallery/2618867)
Replace photo will only take the watermark that's defined in the gallery settings. Otherwise, it'll use the default PROOF watermark.

[Chris_S]

Hi, I though I would share how I created a custom watermark that would work with both light or dark images.

I basically used an Arial font with an outline using these instructions:

http://dgrin.smugmug.com/gallery/1690196
and
http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=903

I'll quote below for easier access:


Here is my method making a font outline where I'm able to apply effects to the outline without effecting the appearance of the font itself.

1. Open a new document (CTRL+N)

2. Type anything you wish.

3. Go to Select\Load Selection and then press OK and you should have a selection around the font you just typed.

4. Go to Select\Modify\Expand\ and type in a value of about 3 and press OK

5. Now press CTRL+SHIFT+N and press OK to create a new layer.

6. Now get a big paintbrush and paint it the color you want the outline to appear.

7. After you have finished painting the outline layer, just drag the text layer on top of the outline layer you just created.

8. Now you can apply effects to the outline layer without making changes to the actual font itself.


examples:


http://photosbychris.smugmug.com/photos/7557945-M-1.jpg

http://photosbychris.smugmug.com/photos/51671476-M-1.jpg

[GJMPhoto]

My watermarking works perfectly...most of the time.

I've noticed that 480x640 (vertical photos) get properly watermarked, but 640x480 (horizontal) will not! I have to load a larger horizontal file, then the watermark takes...why?

- Gary.

[GJMPhoto]

I also notice that watermarks do not show up on 'original' size photos. I guess that's truly the original file, right? There is no way to allow the customer to see the photo at the original resolution (substantially larger than a 'large' photo) but with a watermark? Seems like the original size (resolution) is exactly the photo you want to protect.

[Andy]

I also notice that watermarks do not show up on 'original' size photos. I guess that's truly the original file, right? There is no way to allow the customer to see the photo at the original resolution (substantially larger than a 'large' photo) but with a watermark? Seems like the original size (resolution) is exactly the photo you want to protect.
No, because we print from the originals - and then there'd be no way to print w/out the watermark.

Most pros block originals and only show larges. I don't have a better answer for you, I'm sorry.

[GJMPhoto]

Np...I figured that. Thanks.

What about the Horiz vs. Vert. question???

[GJMPhoto]

Np...I figured that. Thanks.

What about the Horiz vs. Vert. question???

Andy...any thoughts about this? Is there a difference in the minimum resolution for horizontals vs. verticals?

[GJMPhoto]

Horizonal vs. Vertical

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My watermarking works perfectly...most of the time.

I've noticed that 480x640 (vertical photos) get properly watermarked, but 640x480 (horizontal) will not! I have to load a larger horizontal file, then the watermark takes...why?

- Gary.
Andy...any thoughts about this? Is there a difference in the minimum resolution for horizontals vs. verticals?

Andy?????

[Bourbon Cowboy]

Perhaps someone can help me with this problem. I can't get the "PROOF" to go away. I've turned off the watermark option in the galleries, but it's still there. I'm using the right-click protection, and I feel that's enough (I think). Any ideas?

[RogersDA]

Perhaps someone can help me with this problem. I can't get the "PROOF" to go away. I've turned off the watermark option in the galleries, but it's still there. I'm using the right-click protection, and I feel that's enough (I think). Any ideas?

Turning on or off the watermarking option in your gallery preferences just affects whether or not new images uploaded to that gallery are automatically watermarked. It has no affect on the presence or lack thereof of a watermark on the images that are already in the gallery.

After logging in to your site go to the gallery with the problem. Once there you need to select the watermarking option on the <photo tools> drop down menu in your gallery. Then you need to Select All, then choose the Remove option, and then click on Watermark. Wait a few minutes and refresh your screen. Your photos should start showing without the "PROOF".

http://darphotos.smugmug.com/photos/171512365-L-LB.jpg

[GJMPhoto]

Perhaps someone can help me with this problem. I can't get the "PROOF" to go away. I've turned off the watermark option in the galleries, but it's still there. I'm using the right-click protection, and I feel that's enough (I think). Any ideas?

Right Click protection only works if the user doesn't really know what they're doing. There are browser add-ins that allow you to override the right click protection scheme. The watermark remains your best bet...make it large enough and present enough to deter would-be-thieves without being too annoying.

And don't expose your originals...they are never watermarked (even if you turn it on).

- Gary.

[GJMPhoto]

Bumped again: Request #3:

Quote:
Originally Posted by GJMPhoto
Horizonal vs. Vertical

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My watermarking works perfectly...most of the time.

I've noticed that 480x640 (vertical photos) get properly watermarked, but 640x480 (horizontal) will not! I have to load a larger horizontal file, then the watermark takes...why?

- Gary.

Quote:
Originally Posted by GJMPhoto
Andy...any thoughts about this? Is there a difference in the minimum resolution for horizontals vs. verticals?


Andy?????

[RogersDA]

Gary,

Can you provide link(s) to 480x640 images that got watermarked (with image information turned on)? As far as I know you shouldn't be able to watermark any image whose longest side is less than 800 px (http://www.smugmug.com/help/custom-watermark-protection).

[ivar]

Gary,

Can you provide link(s) to 480x640 images that got watermarked (with image information turned on)? As far as I know you shouldn't be able to watermark any image whose longest side is less than 800 px (http://www.smugmug.com/help/custom-watermark-protection).Yes, please supply us with links to images of which the longest side is equal to or less than 800 that are watermarked. They should indeed not be watermarked, and that should be investigated by us :thumb

[GJMPhoto]

Yes, please supply us with links to images of which the longest side is equal to or less than 800 that are watermarked. They should indeed not be watermarked, and that should be investigated by us :thumb

All of the photos in http://www.garymorgenphotography.com/gallery/3075570
will be less than 800 in longest length. The verticals are watermarked...the horizontals are not.

So I understand...the smallest we can make our files to upload quickly, but also be watermarked is xxx by 801 or 801 by xxx ???

[GJMPhoto]

Yes, please supply us with links to images of which the longest side is equal to or less than 800 that are watermarked. They should indeed not be watermarked, and that should be investigated by us :thumb

All of the photos in http://www.garymorgenphotography.com/gallery/2950347
will be less than 800 in longest length. The verticals are watermarked...the horizontals would not be (I don't think that gallery has horizontals, though).

So I understand...the smallest we can make our files to upload quickly, but also be watermarked is xxx by 801 or 801 by xxx ???

[Andy]

All of the photos in http://www.garymorgenphotography.com/gallery/2950347
will be less than 800 in longest length. The verticals are watermarked...the horizontals would not be (I don't think that gallery has horizontals, though).

So I understand...the smallest we can make our files to upload quickly, but also be watermarked is xxx by 801 or 801 by xxx ???

This file http://www.garymorgenphotography.com/gallery/2950347#165762871
is 2448x3264 so it is watermarked. Make sense?

[GJMPhoto]

This file http://www.garymorgenphotography.com/gallery/2950347#165762871
is 2448x3264 so it is watermarked. Make sense?

I probably gave you a bad example....

I'm not near my photo PC right now, so I'll be more careful this evening and repost a good gallery to look at.

[GJMPhoto]

This file http://www.garymorgenphotography.com/gallery/2950347#165762871
is 2448x3264 so it is watermarked. Make sense?

Andy...I can't verify without going back to my computer at home, but isn't http://www.garymorgenphotography.smugmug.com/gallery/3075570#167759387
(IMG_6577) a vertical 480x600 with watermarking?

[Andy]

Andy...I can't verify without going back to my computer at home, but isn't http://www.garymorgenphotography.smugmug.com/gallery/3075570#167759387
(IMG_6577) a vertical 480x600 with watermarking?
Yeah that's a bug, even Images less than 800px on the long side, if they are portrait oriented, will get watermarked. If you want that watermark removed, you'll need to reupload the photo, and also uncheck the watermark-upon-upload option in your gallery settings. Sorry about that. It's been reported, no timeframe on the fix, but we will fix it.

It's not good to upload small images anyhow, if you plan on selling prints, you won't have all print sizes for sale. You can see our resolution requirements here:
http://www.smugmug.com/help/print-quality#minprintres
If the photos don't have large enough resolution, the print sizes are removed from the shopping cart to guarantee the best quality.

Hope this is helpful!

[GJMPhoto]

Yeah that's a bug, even Images less than 800px on the long side, if they are portrait oriented, will get watermarked. If you want that watermark removed, you'll need to reupload the photo, and also uncheck the watermark-upon-upload option in your gallery settings. Sorry about that. It's been reported, no timeframe on the fix, but we will fix it.

It's not good to upload small images anyhow, if you plan on selling prints, you won't have all print sizes for sale. You can see our resolution requirements here:
http://www.smugmug.com/help/print-quality#minprintres
If the photos don't have large enough resolution, the print sizes are removed from the shopping cart to guarantee the best quality.

Hope this is helpful!

Thanks!!! I knew I wasn't crazy :) I do want to keep the watermark, so I'll just leave them alone.

That particular album is just to allow the customer to view the photos, the sales are outside of smugmug (because Smugmug does not yet support package pricing)...so I uploaded the smallest pics I could to save time (and space).

Thanks - Gary.

[christulk]

Hi,

I am following the tute about watermarks, but am stuck on the 4th point. How do I open the type tools menu to get the menu that appears on the screen??

Thanks.

PS. Is there an action I can use to put it on my photos that aren't uploaded to smugmug?

[RogersDA]

I am following the tute about watermarks, but am stuck on the 4th point. How do I open the type tools menu to get the menu that appears on the screen??
http://darphotos.smugmug.com/photos/173175578-L-LB.jpg

There are several ways to add a watermark as an action in Photoshop. I know the NAPP (http://www.photoshopuser.com/) had a recent tutorial on doing this. You can also do a Google search using photoshop action add watermark (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=photoshop+action+add+watermark&btnG=Google+Search) and see what shows.:wink :wink

Or you can do what Andy states in the next post.

[Andy]

PS. Is there an action I can use to put it on my photos that aren't uploaded to smugmug?

Click "Tutorials" in the Dgrin Navbar. We even teach you how to make Actions!

[fashiznitsngrins]

I apologise if this has alreay been addressed (and I am fairly sure it has, but I am all coded out tonight from working on my webpage and my eyes are crossing on me!), but can someone please tell me if it is possible to remove watermarks from photos once they are there? I applied them to a particular gallery and then moved some of them to another gallery and they retained the watermark...

Thanks in advance!

[Allen]

I apologise if this has alreay been addressed (and I am fairly sure it has, but I am all coded out tonight from working on my webpage and my eyes are crossing on me!), but can someone please tell me if it is possible to remove watermarks from photos once they are there? I applied them to a particular gallery and then moved some of them to another gallery and they retained the watermark...

Thanks in advance!
I think under "photo tools" > watermarking, you can remove them there.

[fashiznitsngrins]

I think under "photo tools" > watermarking, you can remove them there.

Ah, so simple! I would have spent days looking for it!! Thanks so much:D

[Andy]

Ah, so simple! I would have spent days looking for it!! Thanks so much:D
:) Let me introduce you to our help pages, too - http://www.smugmug.com/help

on the left side, pro, then watermarking.

:thumb

[fashiznitsngrins]

:) Let me introduce you to our help pages, too - http://www.smugmug.com/help

on the left side, pro, then watermarking.

:thumb

Thanks Andy. That's where I found the great information for creating my watermark, but didn't find how to remove it there... I think it was just too simple for me to work out after having dealt with all of the CSS and Javascript all day trying to get the slideshow working :D

Love your website btw and I am using some elements of it as a template in my dumbed-down version. Hope that's okay!

[NavyMoose]

Hi, I though I would share how I created a custom watermark that would work with both light or dark images.

I basically used an Arial font with an outline using these instructions:

http://dgrin.smugmug.com/gallery/1690196
and
http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=903

I'll quote below for easier access:



examples:


http://photosbychris.smugmug.com/photos/7557945-M-1.jpg

http://photosbychris.smugmug.com/photos/51671476-M-1.jpg

I followed these procedures and created a watermark. I saved it as a JPEG. I uploaded it to my misc gallery and told SmugMug to make it my watermark. I see a white field and my watermark text in the middle of it.

How do I get rid of the white space so only the text shows up? I tried fade and it did not do what I wanted. You could still see the huge white space.

What did I do wrong?

Thanks!

Navy Moose

[Andy]

I followed these procedures and created a watermark. I saved it as a JPEG. I uploaded it to my misc gallery and told SmugMug to make it my watermark. I see a white field and my watermark text in the middle of it.

How do I get rid of the white space so only the text shows up? I tried fade and it did not do what I wanted. You could still see the huge white space.

What did I do wrong?

Thanks!

Navy MooseIt's probably fine :D pngs have to be viewed at original size to see them, and even then, not all browsers can display them.

Link us to the watermark itself, and also to aphoto you watermarked, k?

[NavyMoose]

The gallery is marked "private" because I keep all sorts of stuff like my watermark in there. Please let me know if you have a problem seeing it.

http://navymoose.smugmug.com/gallery/3118995#175121721

This link is an example of a photo I would like a watermark applied to:

http://navymoose.smugmug.com/gallery/3120328/1/170863651#170867951


It's probably fine :D pngs have to be viewed at original size to see them, and even then, not all browsers can display them.

Link us to the watermark itself, and also to aphoto you watermarked, k?

[Andy]

The gallery is marked "private" because I keep all sorts of stuff like my watermark in there. Please let me know if you have a problem seeing it.

http://navymoose.smugmug.com/gallery/3118995#175121721


That's not a transparent png file. You must use Save For Web and choose png-24 in photoshop. Do that, and link me again once it's uploaded, okay?

Don't forget to crop it, too. No need for all the extra empty space.

[NavyMoose]

Hi Andy,

Here is the new link. It still does not appear transparent, even though I saved it as a PNG file.

http://navymoose.smugmug.com/gallery/3118995/2#175137774

Did I screw this up again?

Thanks!

Navy Moose

That's not a transparent png file. You must use Save For Web and choose png-24 in photoshop. Do that, and link me again once it's uploaded, okay?

Don't forget to crop it, too. No need for all the extra empty space.

[Andy]

Hi Andy,

Here is the new link. It still does not appear transparent, even though I saved it as a PNG file.

http://navymoose.smugmug.com/gallery/3118995/2#175137774

Did I screw this up again?

Thanks!

Navy Moose
It's perfect. Now, under that photo, photo tools>make into watermark. Then use it to apply to a photo and see :thumb

[NavyMoose]

Hi Andy,

Thank you for checking for me. Is it possible to apply this watermark to photos already in my galleries?

Thanks again!

Navy Moose

It's perfect. Now, under that photo, photo tools>make into watermark. Then use it to apply to a photo and see :thumb

[Andy]

Hi Andy,

Thank you for checking for me. Is it possible to apply this watermark to photos already in my galleries?

Thanks again!

Navy Moose
Yes, please have another look at our watermarking help page, it says it all much better than I can :D


http://www.smugmug.com/help/custom-watermark-protection

[christulk]

Click "Tutorials" in the Dgrin Navbar. We even teach you how to make Actions!


Thanks Andy and David!

[NavyMoose]

Hi Andy,

I followed the steps you pointed out and I still do not see a watermark on the existing photos. The new photos I uploaded just now don't have the correct watermark on them. I changed the watermark in gallery tools to my custom one, and the watermark still shows "Proof".

Here is a link showing one of my new photos with the "Proof" watermark.

http://navymoose.smugmug.com/gallery/3119130/1/175952806/Original

Am I doing something wrong here?

Thanks!

Navy Moose

Yes, please have another look at our watermarking help page, it says it all much better than I can :D


http://www.smugmug.com/help/custom-watermark-protection

[Barb]

Hi Andy,

I followed the steps you pointed out and I still do not see a watermark on the existing photos. The new photos I uploaded just now don't have the correct watermark on them. I changed the watermark in gallery tools to my custom one, and the watermark still shows "Proof".

Here is a link showing one of my new photos with the "Proof" watermark.

http://navymoose.smugmug.com/gallery/3119130/1/175952806/Original

Am I doing something wrong here?

Thanks!

Navy Moose

Hi :)

I took a look at the above gallery, and used your custom watermark and they watermarked fine :) If you wish to change the watermark, go into the gallery, and underneath a photo, click on photo tools, then watermarking. At the top of the next page, click select all, choose your watermark, check add, and then watermark. You do the same to remove them, except check remove.

Let us know if you have further questions!

[NavyMoose]

Hi Barb,

I got it to work this time! Thank you!!

Navy Moose

Hi :)

I took a look at the above gallery, and used your custom watermark and they watermarked fine :) If you wish to change the watermark, go into the gallery, and underneath a photo, click on photo tools, then watermarking. At the top of the next page, click select all, choose your watermark, check add, and then watermark. You do the same to remove them, except check remove.

Let us know if you have further questions!

[J.T.]

Anyone have a recommendation for a mac application that will allow me to make a custom watermark, other than Photoshop? Maybe a free download, i.e. freeware. I just need to make a basic watermark and import to smug. I currently use one of the Dgrin examples but it's too large for me to place on a corner of a photo or customize.

If no mac app's are out there, mabe a recommendation for a PC app, also freeware if possible. I'm not cheap or anything, its just going to be a one time application use.

Thanks

[RogersDA]

Anyone have a recommendation for a mac application that will allow me to make a custom watermark, other than Photoshop? Maybe a free download, i.e. freeware. I just need to make a basic watermark and import to smug. I currently use one of the Dgrin examples but it's too large for me to place on a corner of a photo or customize.

If no mac app's are out there, mabe a recommendation for a PC app, also freeware if possible. I'm not cheap or anything, its just going to be a one time application use.

Thanks

Well, for the PC there's always good, old MS Paint which is usually installed with windows. Make a new image, add some text with the font you like, and save as a gif, jpg, or png file. May not be great, but that image can be used as a watermark in smugmug.

[Andy]

Anyone have a recommendation for a mac application that will allow me to make a custom watermark, other than Photoshop? Maybe a free download, i.e. freeware. I just need to make a basic watermark and import to smug. I currently use one of the Dgrin examples but it's too large for me to place on a corner of a photo or customize.

If no mac app's are out there, mabe a recommendation for a PC app, also freeware if possible. I'm not cheap or anything, its just going to be a one time application use.

Thanks
You don't Post Process at all? :dunno

Try Irfanview, it's a freeware pc app.

Try The Gimp - open source photo app :)

[J.T.]

Thanks for the information. I'll try that and see what I get.

Well, for the PC there's always good, old MS Paint which is usually installed with windows. Make a new image, add some text with the font you like, and save as a gif, jpg, or png file. May not be great, but that image can be used as a watermark in smugmug.

[J.T.]

Thanks Andy. Well I do some basic post processing with iPhoto but nothing like I could do with an Adobe program. My Mac is a bit too slow for the power of Photoshop or Aperture and will have to wait until I upgrade.

Thanks for the info with Irfanview, I'll try that too.

John

You don't Post Process at all? :dunno

Try Irfanview, it's a freeware pc app.

Try The Gimp - open source photo app :)

[Leigh0190]

I have a watermark and use it on smugmug, but when i blog people would be able to right click and get my images, as the watermark doesn't show up on a blog. Is there some way for me to watermark my blog pictures? All I have is photoshop elements, and is from like 2001 or 2002.

Thanks!

[RogersDA]

I have a watermark and use it on smugmug, but when i blog people would be able to right click and get my images, as the watermark doesn't show up on a blog. Is there some way for me to watermark my blog pictures? All I have is photoshop elements, and is from like 2001 or 2002.

Thanks!

When blogging why don't you just provide a link to your Smugmug images that are already watermarked? In your gallery you can enable sharing, and disable originals. So your watermarked image links will be something like ..../0123456789-L.jpg or ..../0123456789-M.jpg or ..../0123456789-S.jpg.

These images are the watermarked versions. So, using them in blogs will give you some degree of protection. For example:

http://darphotos.smugmug.com/photos/183173723-S-LB.jpg

[Leigh0190]

Thanks for the advice. I really would like some way to put the actual pictures on the blog, because I put them there before they go on my website as a preview to families. So far I've just done friends for fun so it hasn't been an issue but I want to get it figured out so I can be prepared. If anyone knows how to do this...

[thenimirra]

Hello, all I'm a newbie to the world of digital photography and PhotoShop.

I'm trying to create a watermark with only type, save it as a photo and then download it as an image so I can turn it into a watermark.

However, I just want the typed out words, not the white background.

Can someone explain to me how to do this? I have PSC2. Thank you!

[Andy]

Can someone explain to me how to do this? I have PSC2. Thank you!
You bet. We have a step by step.

From here
http://www.smugmug.com/help/custom-watermark-protection
you will find the link to it at the very top :thumb

[thenimirra]

Thank you Andy, your images and your site are my inspiration. Thank you for being so willing to help out us newbies. I have learned so much already being a part of smugmug! :clap

[thenimirra]

Thank you Andy, your images and your site are my inspiration. Thank you for being so willing to help out us newbies. I have learned so much already being a part of smugmug! :clap


I tried to turn the image into a watermark, but I still have that ugly white background. How do I just make type into a watermark? How do I just create type on a PS file that doesn't include the white background?

[Dogdots]

I read the tutorial here about making a watermark for your photos. I have been able to do that, but I don't know how to get it from my documents to my photo. I could really use some help on this.....Thanks.

[RogersDA]

I read the tutorial here about making a watermark for your photos. I have been able to do that, but I don't know how to get it from my documents to my photo. I could really use some help on this.....Thanks.

So - you have a watermark image created using smugmug? If so, Login to your smugmug account, go to a gallery, and from any image choose "Watermarking" from the "Photo Tools" menu.

http://darphotos.smugmug.com/photos/198641448-M.jpg

This will bring up a screen showing all the thumbnails for all of the images in the gallery.
http://darphotos.smugmug.com/photos/198641484-M.jpg

Click each image's thumbnail to select it for watermarking (or choose the "select all" from the top). Then, make sure the "add" radio button is selected and the appropriate watermark is in the drop-down box. Click on the "Watermark" button and it should go. It can take several minutes for all images to watermark. You may have to reload the page to get the watermarked images to show.

Remember, if the image's longest side is less than 800 pixels then it will not be watermarked.

[Dogdots]

I don't have a watermark thru smugmug. I got the how-to in the tutorials here in dgrin. I just don't know how to transfer it onto my photos in Photoshop. The information you gave me though is good and I will hang onto it because I was going to join into smugmug....just haven't done so yet. When I do it will come in handy. Maybe the tutorial is just for watermarks in smugmug....hummm. Do you know?

[RogersDA]

I don't have a watermark thru smugmug. I got the how-to in the tutorials here in dgrin. I just don't know how to transfer it onto my photos in Photoshop. The information you gave me though is good and I will hang onto it because I was going to join into smugmug....just haven't done so yet. When I do it will come in handy. Maybe the tutorial is just for watermarks in smugmug....hummm. Do you know?

O.k. Your original post didn't give all of the details. So you have an image file on your computer that you want to use as a watermark.

In order to do that in PS all you have do is open the image you want to watermark. Then, open your watermarking image in PS.

http://darphotos.smugmug.com/photos/198676979-M.jpg

With the watermark image active choose the layers palette, and drag the image's layer icon onto the photo you want to watermark. In the example above you would click on the icon for "Layer 0" and drag it on top of the bear image. When you release the mouse the watermark image will be a new layer. Repeat as necessary, add more blending options, change the watermark layer's size, etc.

Don't save this file as the original jpg image!!!!. Save it as a different name or save as a PSD file.
http://darphotos.smugmug.com/photos/198677007-M.jpg

[Dogdots]

I'm sorry I wasn't clear in what I was saying in my earlier posting. I thank you for the information and will try it out today. I'm so new to using the tools in Photoshop. Which means I have sooooooo much to learn. Can you explain smugmug to me?

[RogersDA]

I Can you explain smugmug to me?

Well, there is so much to Smugmug that explaining it all could be time consuming, However, the basics are here: http://www.smugmug.com/visitor-help/

You shoot, you upload, you share. People visit, people like, people download, purchase, comment, etc. By far one of the best photo sharing sites. You control the content, look, and feel of your site or you can choose to use of smugmug's themes to share your photos. Themes are basically pre-set looks that you can either use as-is or tweak to your own desire. A lot of help is available here at dgrin when you want to customize, but are not sure how to go about doing it.

I am sure others can provide more information.

[Dogdots]

I will check into it. You have been a big help.

[Leigh0190]

I follow the example for watermarking exactly. When I upload it to smugmug, though, it is just a big block of whatever color the watermark is supposed to be in. No letters, just a big blob of color. Help???

[RogersDA]

I follow the example for watermarking exactly. When I upload it to smugmug, though, it is just a big block of whatever color the watermark is supposed to be in. No letters, just a big blob of color. Help???

Did you upload a *.png file with transparency for use as the watermark? If so the png file will look weird when viewed in your gallery. This is because Windows and the fact that your gallery may not be showing showing the original. Turn on originals for that gallery and view the image at that size. Still weird?

If still weird then how did you save the file? Photoshop - Save for Web?

If the original file is o.k. then watermarking process should be o.k. since it uses your original file as the watermark.

[thehikingdude]

I just started up my Smugmug site this weekend and got my first order. It would appear that the person was trying to crop out the watermark on most of the pictures they ordered.

I am correct in thinking that the watermark doesn't show up in the prints, right? I wanted to be 250% sure that's the case before I said anything about it.

Do others say anything in reference to the watermark so folks know that it doesn't show up on the actual prints?

The Newbie

[RogersDA]

If you applied the watermark using Smugmug's watermarking feature then that watermark will not print. Smugmug does not alter the originals that you upload, and the originals are used for printing. If you applied the watermark using Photoshop or other photo editing software before you uploaded the image then it will print as it is part of the original.

Set up proof delay (http://www.smugmug.com/help/proof-retouch-replace) on your galleries so that you can tweak their crops without having them reorder them.

Also, why do you have originals enabled for your galleries? Kind of defeats the purpose of selling. :wink :deal

I just started up my Smugmug site this weekend and got my first order. It would appear that the person was trying to crop out the watermark on most of the pictures they ordered.

I am correct in thinking that the watermark doesn't show up in the prints, right? I wanted to be 250% sure that's the case before I said anything about it.

Do others say anything in reference to the watermark so folks know that it doesn't show up on the actual prints?

The Newbie

[thehikingdude]

If you applied the watermark using Smugmug's watermarking feature then that watermark will not print. Smugmug does not alter the originals that you upload, and the originals are used for printing. If you applied the watermark using Photoshop or other photo editing software before you uploaded the image then it will print as it is part of the original.

Set up proof delay (http://www.smugmug.com/help/proof-retouch-replace) on your galleries so that you can tweak their crops without having them reorder them.

Also, why do you have originals eneabled for your galleries? Kind of defeats the purpose of selling. :wink :deal

Thanks for the answer!!!

I'm using the Smugmug Watermark Feature so it sounds like I can be assured of that. I'm using the Proof Delay as well.

I only have one gallery enabled with the ability to download original images. I did this on purpose as a freebie just to give the folks an opportunity to see what they are really getting when ordering prints. I read elsehwere that others have used this for marketing to get people used to coming back to check for more free downloads. I only started my site up over the weekend, but it seems to make sense to throw people a bone every now and then.

However, if you saw additional galleries allowing free original downloads I'd be very curious to know which ones allowed that.

[Leigh0190]

Just realized I never said thanks for the help! I figured out the watermark situation!

[RogersDA]

Just realized I never said thanks for the help! I figured out the watermark situation!

:thumb:thumb

[Jetranger]

I didn't see this question asked ... but I see some watermarks rotated 45 degrees ... I don't see that option on the watermark edit screen ... does this have to be done in Photoshop?

[RogersDA]

I didn't see this question asked ... but I see some watermarks rotated 45 degrees ... I don't see that option on the watermark edit screen ... does this have to be done in Photoshop?

Well...not necessarily in Photoshop, but yes - rotating the image in your favorite image processosr is needed before uploading to Smugmug.

[natephoto]

What is the optimal size for a watermark image? I need it to work on vertical and horizontal images...

Look here for the problem I'm having:

http://supersnapshots.smugmug.com/gallery/3701843

Thanks,
Nate

[MichaelKirk]

Andy,
It's time for an updated watermark. Quick question:
When sizing the transparent document, the tutotial suggest 1600x200 - but any will do. I like the one you maked showing on the tutorial page:
http://www.smugmug.com/help/custom-watermark-protection

with the "X". Is there a special size I should start with so it looks correct with either horizontal or vertical images?

Michael

[MichaelKirk]

bump..





Andy,
It's time for an updated watermark. Quick question:
When sizing the transparent document, the tutotial suggest 1600x200 - but any will do. I like the one you maked showing on the tutorial page:
http://www.smugmug.com/help/custom-watermark-protection

with the "X". Is there a special size I should start with so it looks correct with either horizontal or vertical images?

Michael

[Andy]

Andy,
It's time for an updated watermark. Quick question:
When sizing the transparent document, the tutotial suggest 1600x200 - but any will do. I like the one you maked showing on the tutorial page:
http://www.smugmug.com/help/custom-watermark-protection

with the "X". Is there a special size I should start with so it looks correct with either horizontal or vertical images?

MichaelGet a portrait-oriented and a landscape-oriented X3 image from your site... layer them in photoshop and start playing around :) That's what I did.

From the help page,
http://www.smugmug.com/help/custom-watermark-protection
it leads you here:
http://dgrin.smugmug.com/gallery/1690793#210147244

This watermark (http://dgrin.smugmug.com/gallery/1690793#207185282) looks like this:

http://dgrin.smugmug.com/photos/210148733-XL-1.jpg

and this

http://dgrin.smugmug.com/photos/210147244-XL-1.jpg

[bham]

What is the optimal size for a watermark image? I need it to work on vertical and horizontal images...

Look here for the problem I'm having:

http://supersnapshots.smugmug.com/gallery/3701843

Thanks,
Nate

Nate, after looking at your watermark in that gallery, would you like a watermark like this?

http://mcleod.smugmug.com/photos/226568868-M-1.jpg

And here is a post about how I created it

http://www.dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=560664&postcount=26

[natephoto]

That would be better.. but would it fit horizontal images too?

[bham]

That would be better.. but would it fit horizontal images too?

Yep, it is a single copy of the text, then watermark created and tiled on smugmug. So it works well on portrait and horizontal photos.

[Sunnyvalejohn]

Andy,

Thanks for the great background on creating a watermark! Nice easy steps!

I noticed your watermark is an embossed text watermark. How do you make the text embossed like that?

Thanks!
John

[HoyBoy]

Is there anyway to watermark every image on my site without having to set it up in each individual gallery?

Thanks!

[Andy]

Is there anyway to watermark every image on my site without having to set it up in each individual gallery?

Thanks!
Hi, I'm sorry there is not - you'll need to go to each gallery and watermark from the gallery.

Wish I had a different answer for you!

[HoyBoy]

Hi, I'm sorry there is not - you'll need to go to each gallery and watermark from the gallery.

Wish I had a different answer for you!

Not a big deal, I was just hoping!

Thanks for the quick response!

[Craig Ridley]

Is it normal behaviour that once you watermark your images you need to redo all your bulk zoom thumbnails?

I had previously spent many an hour changing the thumbnails with the bulk zoom tool and now when applying a watermark all this hard work is undone and I need to do it all again (I dont have watermarking for thumbnails turned on so not sure why smugmug is generating a new thumbnail).

Thanks,
Craig.

[Allen]

Is it normal behaviour that once you watermark your images you need to redo all your bulk zoom thumbnails?

I had previously spent many an hour changing the thumbnails with the bulk zoom tool and now when applying a watermark all this hard work is undone and I need to do it all again (I dont have watermarking for thumbnails turned on so not sure why smugmug is generating a new thumbnail).

Thanks,
Craig.
Did you check the box to add the watermark on the thumbnails? If not I don't
think the thumbs would be effected.

[Andy]

Is it normal behaviour that once you watermark your images you need to redo all your bulk zoom thumbnails?

I had previously spent many an hour changing the thumbnails with the bulk zoom tool and now when applying a watermark all this hard work is undone and I need to do it all again (I dont have watermarking for thumbnails turned on so not sure why smugmug is generating a new thumbnail).

Thanks,
Craig.
Yes, watermarking will cause all the sizes to be regenerated. Sorry about that!

[Craig Ridley]

Yes, watermarking will cause all the sizes to be regenerated. Sorry about that!

Thanks for the quick reply - albeit not the reply I was after - I was hoping I was doing something wrong.

Oh well, back to watermarking and recreating thumbnails.

[timnosenzo]

I want to create a very simple watermark that can be easily applied to photos with either a horizontal or vertical orientation, but I can't seem to get the size right. If it looks OK on a horizontal photo it will be too small on a vertical, and so forth. Is there a good size that I can use to put this watermark together? I really just want the text look like this:

http://www.timnosenzo.com/photos/271079970_Dn782-M-6.jpg

Justified to the bottom right side of each photo (maybe a little bigger than the one above). But when I apply that watermark to vertical shots, its really tiny... However if I make the PNG file square, its really huge on a horizontal shot. :noob

Thanks for any help!

Tim

[Andy]

I want to create a very simple watermark that can be easily applied to photos with either a horizontal or vertical orientation, but I can't seem to get the size right. If it looks OK on a horizontal photo it will be too small on a vertical, and so forth. Is there a good size that I can use to put this watermark together? I really just want the text look like this:

http://www.timnosenzo.com/photos/271079970_Dn782-M-6.jpg

Justified to the bottom right side of each photo (maybe a little bigger than the one above). But when I apply that watermark to vertical shots, its really tiny... However if I make the PNG file square, its really huge on a horizontal shot. :noob

Thanks for any help!

TimLink us to your watermark so we can see it....

[timnosenzo]

Link us to your watermark so we can see it....

This is the one I used in that photo.

http://www.timnosenzo.com/photos/271444093_buBaV-O.png

I tried to make it square to show up larger in vertical shot, but then it showed up huge in the horizontal ones, so I gave up. :dunno

[timnosenzo]

Any ideas? :ear :wink

[DSA]

I tried to make it square to show up larger in vertical shot, but then it showed up huge in the horizontal ones, so I gave up. :dunno
I had the same trouble. After a bit of playing around I settled for 800x1067 px.
That doesn't quite make horizontal and vertical the same, but it's close.

Daniel

[seanmpuckett]

Having trouble with this watermark size ratio issue also.

I created a square watermark image so it would size evenly. I find that the watermark is scaled to the height of the client image. This makes the watermark small and correct on landscape images, but large and ugly on portrait images.

Seems to me the right way to do this is to scale the watermark by the shortest side of the client image so it is rendered based on image ratio, not height. That way, images that are 9:16 or even taller don't have a huge watermark.

This is really a problem now. I don't know what's changed in the watermarking code recently, but I'm very unhappy with how it is working at this moment. The portrait watermark size is ghastly.

http://photi.ca/photos/276267823_KGuQa-L-2.jpg

http://photi.ca/photos/105986575_htLJs-L-2.jpg


... you guys are hilarious, you know that, right? Of course if I link to images on the site, and I regenerate the watermarks again, and the problem's fixed (or whatever), then my example images look fine and everyone is looking at me like I'm daft. Be that as it may, I no longer have a problem. I think. For now.

Cookies for everyone.

[BGtom]

Is there a way to use a different watermark for different galleries? I want to create a private gallery for select people to access that has just a simple copyright rather than a "prevent unauthorized copying" obscur-o-matic. And I would also like to second the motion for a "resizer".

Thanks

[denisegoldberg]

Is there a way to use a different watermark for different galleries? I want to create a private gallery for select people to access that has just a simple copyright rather than a "prevent unauthorized copying" obscur-o-matic.
Yes, you can use a different watermark for different galleries. In fact, you could apply a different watermark to each photo if you wanted to.

--- Denise

[Calm Light Photos]

I're read a lot of the posts on this thread and it is apparent that the majority of you are very well schooled in Photo Shop and other means of watermarking. I, on the other hand, am not. I want to watermark my photos but since I don't have PS and have never used it before (although I've seen it and it looks quite daunting) does anyone have suggestions as to where I would start to learn how to do this? I want the process to be simple, please!

I know I could just use SmugMugs watermarking, but I really don't like it. I think it's way to intrusive and takes the viewers focus away from the picture. Maybe if it were smaller and more transparent it would work better.

Any help would be much appreciated :bow

Thank you, Darlene

[denisegoldberg]

I're read a lot of the posts on this thread and it is apparent that the majority of you are very well schooled in Photo Shop and other means of watermarking. I, on the other hand, am not. I want to watermark my photos but since I don't have PS and have never used it before (although I've seen it and it looks quite daunting) does anyone have suggestions as to where I would start to learn how to do this?
Darlene -
I don't have Photoshop either... I downloaded a copy of gimp (yes, it's free) and created my watermark there. Gimp is at http://www.gimp.org/, and there is a tutorial for creating a watermark at http://dgrin.smugmug.com/gallery/1690196. That should give you the general idea, and you should be able to translate the instructions to the equivalent functions in gimp.

--- Denise

[Andy]

I're read a lot of the posts on this thread and it is apparent that the majority of you are very well schooled in Photo Shop and other means of watermarking. I, on the other hand, am not. I want to watermark my photos but since I don't have PS and have never used it before (although I've seen it and it looks quite daunting) does anyone have suggestions as to where I would start to learn how to do this? I want the process to be simple, please!

I know I could just use SmugMugs watermarking, but I really don't like it. I think it's way to intrusive and takes the viewers focus away from the picture. Maybe if it were smaller and more transparent it would work better.

Any help would be much appreciated :bow

Thank you, Darlene

some smaller ones,here http://dgrin.smugmug.com/gallery/1690793#210148733_rTsff

It takes about a minute or two to make a simple watermark, you could just order one up here and I bet someone would make it for ya :thumb

[Calm Light Photos]

Thank you for the info on Gimp, Denise. My son actually downloaded it yesterday and we were trying to figure it out, but I must say it seems to be way over my head. I really am clueless, for the most part, about technology. I'd probably need someone to walk me through the process, step by step, and then I'm sure I'd get it. When I have more time, I'll try to figure it out. Maybe there's a Gimp or Photo Shop for Dummies!

So Andy, do you really think that someone could/would make me a simple watermark since it only takes a minute or two (for experienced people like yourself, of course!?) If so, anybody interested?? All I want is one that says Calm Light Photos, and I'd like to be able to put it at the bottom of the pictures. I don't want it to be really big either, because I think that is too distracting.

Thank you in advance to whoever would like to create one for me! :D

[BGtom]

Just right click on the image and choose "save picture as..." assuming you have a PC, of course...otherwise do whatever Mac users do to save images (sorry). Hope it works for you.
http://ballgamepictures.smugmug.com/photos/278614775_X4PjY-X2.png (http://ballgamepictures.smugmug.com/gallery/3365748_jpUP2#278614775_X4PjY)


EDIT by Andy: It's also right here:
http://ballgamepictures.smugmug.com/photos/278614775_X4PjY-O.png

[Calm Light Photos]

Thank you SOO much for creating this for me! You're awesome! I have it on my site - finally! This is such a learning curve for me, but I'm enjoying the process. I do have another request :wink It seems to be as dark as it gets - I went in to try to edit it to make it darker, but the only option was to make it lighter. I have quite a few photos that have white in them so this watermark doesn't show up on those. It works beautifully on the darker images, though. If it's not a problem, can you either make a dark one, too, or tell me how to darken it so I can have a light version as well as a dark version.

I know, you're probably all thinking - "send this woman to photography school already!!" :roflMaybe some day when my role as mom lessens, and I win the lottery and don't have to work anymore!

[BGtom]

Hope I pasted this in right...

http://www.ballgamepictures.com/photos/278824651_qGqGS-O.png

Tom

BTW...seeing as how your photos are probably un-photoshop'd and un-lightroom'd...maybe it's us that need a little learnin' ;D

[Calm Light Photos]

Hope I pasted this in right...

http://www.ballgamepictures.com/photos/278824651_qGqGS-O.png

Tom

BTW...seeing as how your photos are probably un-photoshop'd and un-lightroom'd...maybe it's us that need a little learnin' ;D

Thank you so much, Tom. Both watermarks work great. I really appreciate you taking your time to create them for me. I hope it only took a couple of minutes to do so. I'll take your last comment as a compliment, so thank you for that as well :thumb

[Tom K.]

Some great watermark methods from Photoshop Guru Russell Brown here: CLICK HERE TOO VIEW (http://movielibrary.lynda.com/html/player/index.cfm?id=%7B09869063-F375-42F2-B31D-8FA6EB65AD70%7D&tc=0&height=616&width=800&redirect=no)

and here:


CLICK HERE TO VIEW (http://movielibrary.lynda.com/html/player/?id=%7BA3742DC6-4B7D-4205-A690-BE31B09B7D47%7D&tc=0&height=616&width=800)