i'm considering a distagon wa lens for my canon dslr

[Andy]

One hour and 15 minutes. Not bad. Andy has cool glass.

is what i'm looking at here (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=13886&is=USA)

mainly i'd use it for landsacaping. requires a special mount adapter the info's here (http://www.dslrexchange.com/modules.php?name=Jig)

anyhow, does anyone have experience with this?

[luckyrwe]

is what i'm looking at here (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=13886&is=USA)
Even cooler when it gets back in stock, some of theit stuff can be out for a while. :dunno

[Seymore]

Or... if he can't wait, Adorama has a better lens for him. HERE (http://www.adorama.com/YSMM1535.html?searchinfo=Distagon&item_no=10) or HERE (http://www.adorama.com/YSMM1628.html?searchinfo=Distagon&item_no=25) Looks like the prices are what Andy can deal with. :D

[Andy]

Or... if he can't wait, Adorama has a better lens for him. HERE (http://www.adorama.com/YSMM1535.html?searchinfo=Distagon&item_no=10) or HERE (http://www.adorama.com/YSMM1628.html?searchinfo=Distagon&item_no=25) Looks like the prices are what Andy can deal with. :D

here's another guy who likes to shovel cash out of my wallet :lol3

[Seymore]

here's another guy who likes to shovel cash out of my wallet :lol3And, you're the one advertising that you're gonna get more glass. :poke I'm just trying to :help!
Anyhow... you're earning the big bucks shooting. :thumb I know you can afford it! :D

[wxwax]

is what i'm looking at here (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=13886&is=USA)
Sharp edge to edge, is that the appeal? Not a bummer giving up a full stop?

[Andy]

Sharp edge to edge, is that the appeal? Not a bummer giving up a full stop?

it's special purpose, sid... landscaping on a tripod. i'd mostly be at f/8 and narrower. so my first criteria would be sharpness, yeah :deal

in fact, there's no af and no metering from the camera with this puppy, either.

[fish]

too bad you can't use a 10-22 like us mere mortals. :D

[wxwax]

it's special purpose, sid... landscaping on a tripod. i'd mostly be at f/8 and narrower. so my first criteria would be sharpness, yeah :deal

in fact, there's no af and no metering from the camera with this puppy, either.


Ooh, an interesting challenge. I know you'll get the exposure right (if not, you always have the histogram as a fallback.) But these cameras don't really seem to be built for manual focusing - that should get you attention.

[gus]

too bad you can't use a 10-22 like us mere mortals. :D
But why the hell does it cost nearly the same as 17-40 L ???? Becauses its new or is it hard to make a good wide lens ?

I see some people hack sawing a bit off it to fit it to EF cameras. May be handy advice when canon change ....AGAIN.

[Andy]

too bad you can't use a 10-22 like us mere mortals. :D

actually, i'm hoping that my 24-70L that i'm picking up tomw at b&h will be enough wide for me :D

i've seen some really really good stuff on that lens with the 1Ds Mark II.

here are some sharpness examples (http://home.earthlink.net/~ladlueck/sharp2470.htm) wow looks darn good.

[Andy]

Ooh, an interesting challenge. I know you'll get the exposure right (if not, you always have the histogram as a fallback.) But these cameras don't really seem to be built for manual focusing - that should get you attention.

yer right. well, i'm hoping that 24mm on my ff camera will be enough, actually. i'm going to spend the next month researching the distagon wa choices out there, talk to some folks who use it, and then make a decision before yosemite-time....

[wxwax]

yer right. well, i'm hoping that 24mm on my ff camera will be enough, actually. i'm going to spend the next month researching the distagon wa choices out there, talk to some folks who use it, and then make a decision before yosemite-time....
Very interesting, thanks for posting this. I didn't know anything about distagon until this thread.

[Andy]

Very interesting, thanks for posting this. I didn't know anything about distagon until this thread.

i've actually just gotten a lead on an 18mm f/4 that looks darn good!

[dkapp]

I thought you could meter with any lens on the Canon? I know you have to have a pro Nikon body to meter non-CPU lenses, but for some reason I thought most every Canon could?

You may want to check into that again.

Dave

[fish]

actually, i'm hoping that my 24-70L that i'm picking up tomw at b&h will be enough wide for me :D

i've seen some really really good stuff on that lens with the 1Ds Mark II.

here are some sharpness examples (http://home.earthlink.net/%7Eladlueck/sharp2470.htm) wow looks darn good.

the 24-70L is a stellar lens. i love mine. it's right in the same class as the 70-200/2.8L. and it really doesn't need IS. only you can tell if 24mm is going to be wide enough. it's wide (on a FF), but not UWA. have you considered the Canon 14/2.8L (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=12066&is=GREY)?

[luckyrwe]

I have never been 100% happy with my 24-70. it is ready for pickup at Canon however, hopefully it got tweaked for improvement.

[Shay Stephens]

Andy, I thought you had the 16-35mm f/2.8? That won't do what you need? I am curious as to the application.

[Andy]

Andy, I thought you had the 16-35mm f/2.8? That won't do what you need? I am curious as to the application.

i just sold it today. why? well, i use the 35 f/1.4L very very often. the 16-35 less and less these days. when i do mount the 16-35L, i shoot at roughly 20mm +/- a couple. and there is some softness in the corners, noticeable on my ff body. never saw it on the 20d - and it doesn't show up there at all on that body.

for tripod and landscaping work, the general agreement "out there" is that you cannot beat the zeiss distagon glass for sharpness and overall pic quality for the really wide angles.

[Shay Stephens]

Ahhhhh. Ok, that clears it up :-)

i just sold it today. why? well, i use the 35 f/1.4L very very often. the 16-35 less and less these days. when i do mount the 16-35L, i shoot at roughly 20mm +/- a couple. and there is some softness in the corners, noticeable on my ff body. never saw it on the 20d - and it doesn't show up there at all on that body.

for tripod and landscaping work, the general agreement "out there" is that you cannot beat the zeiss distagon glass for sharpness and overall pic quality for the really wide angles.

[fish]

I have never been 100% happy with my 24-70. it is ready for pickup at Canon however, hopefully it got tweaked for improvement.
lenses are funny that way. i was never happy with my 17-40/4L, so I sold it to ginger, and she's making amazing art with it. go figure :dunno

[leebase]

At that price....and f/4 is it really a better piece of glass than, say, the 16-35 f2.8 L?

Lee

[Andy]

At that price....and f/4 is it really a better piece of glass than, say, the 16-35 f2.8 L?

Lee

many say it is. look at the mtfs, and also the pics! also, remember, i'm considering it for landscaping on a tripod so f/8 or f/11 is likely where i'll be. i have my 35 f/1.4 for lowlight work.

the 16-35L on the FF body is a little soft in the corners, the distagons apparantly blow it away.

will i ever stop buying? who knows? :lol3

[fish]

the 16-35L on the FF body is a little soft in the corners, the distagons apparantly blow it away.

assuming you buy that contax lens, should we start a pool to see how long it is before you put it up for sale? :wink

[Seymore]

assuming you buy that contax lens, should we start a pool to see how long it is before you put it up for sale? :winkI'll give him 60 days... :rolleyes :D

[patch29]

here's another guy who likes to shovel cash out of my wallet :lol3

Hey don't leave me out. I am here to help too you should buy this (http://www.robgalbraith.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=315366&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1) ASAP. :nod :deal

[Andy]

Hey don't leave me out. I am here to help too you should buy this (http://www.robgalbraith.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=315366&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1) ASAP. :nod :deal

man, that is one sweet piece of glass! i've been drooling over them for months now! crimony, you can drive a truck through that lens opening!

the going price on that lens, in good condition, has gone from about $2750 to now $4000 inside of a year.

:lol3

[patch29]

Andy you might want to buy that lens very soon, did you read this article (http://www.dpreview.com/news/0503/05030301kyocera.asp) on dpreview? Those lenses could go up in value. :deal

[patch29]

the going price on that lens, in good condition, has gone from about $2750 to now $4000 inside of a year.

:lol3

I hope the same happens with the 50/1.0. I will probably be selling mine in the next few weeks. I simply do not use it enough to justify keeping it.

[luckyrwe]

Have I mentioned I want a 50/1.0? :thumb

[Andy]

Andy you might want to buy that lens very soon, did you read this article (http://www.dpreview.com/news/0503/05030301kyocera.asp) on dpreview? Those lenses could go up in value. :deal

hmm interesting. hopefully, won't affect me too much. i'm looking now.

the 18 f/4 or the 21 f/2.8? i can't find any prices on the 21 f/2.8, patch yer good at this, lemme know if you find any ok?

[dkapp]

hmm interesting. hopefully, won't affect me too much. i'm looking now.

the 18 f/4 or the 21 f/2.8? i can't find any prices on the 21 f/2.8, patch yer good at this, lemme know if you find any ok?

21mm f/2.8 here.
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/191282

Dave

[Andy]

21mm f/2.8 here.
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/191282

Dave

thanks dave :thumb i'll be watching carefully.

[dkapp]

thanks dave :thumb i'll be watching carefully.

There was a shot posted today on page 2 that shows the lens on a 1DsMkII.

I'm pretty impressed. The corners look real good.

Dave

[Andy]

There was a shot posted today on page 2 that shows the lens on a 1DsMkII.

I'm pretty impressed. The corners look real good.

Dave

p2 of where, linky please? and which lens, the 18 or the 21?

[dkapp]

p2 of where, linky please? and which lens, the 18 or the 21?

Sorry, it is the 21mm f/2.8 that I had linked yesterday. Here is the link to Page 2 (http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/191282/1) on Fred Miranda.

Dave

[Andy]

Sorry, it is the 21mm f/2.8 that I had linked yesterday. Here is the link to Page 2 (http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/191282/1) on Fred Miranda.

Dave

thanks. i asked him for some 100% corner crops :D

[Andy]

gaaaaaaaaaa! i *have* to have this lens

linky (http://www.pbase.com/marco/21_zeiss_distagon)


mtf charts linky (http://www.geocities.com/ilprode/TestZ.htm)

[Andy]

linky (http://homepage.mac.com/scoba/PhotoAlbum14.html)

can't find any 100pct crops of the 18 yet...

[dkapp]

gaaaaaaaaaa! i *have* to have this lens

linky (http://www.pbase.com/marco/21_zeiss_distagon)

You can say I'm more than a little impressed. How about the leaves corner crop? So much detail there.

Dave

[Andy]

You can say I'm more than a little impressed. How about the leaves corner crop? So much detail there.

Dave

linky deutsche (http://iapf.physik.tu-berlin.de/jbohs/HKO/TUBerlin/WWVergleich/WW1Dsvergl.html).

[Andy]

linky deutsche (http://iapf.physik.tu-berlin.de/jbohs/HKO/TUBerlin/WWVergleich/WW1Dsvergl.html).

found an 18mm, new, and purchased it. will give it a twirl, see how the quality stacks up.

in the meantime, still looking for that 21mm :):

[pathfinder]

found an 18mm, new, and purchased it. will give it a twirl, see how the quality stacks up.

in the meantime, still looking for that 21mm :):

Andy - What adapter are you going to use to mount the Distagon on your 1DsMkll? There is an interesting article on the Digital Outback Photo thread by Paul Caldwell showing some adapters can damage the lens mount of the EOS cameras. Also you MAY void your Canon warranty according to the article as well - http://www.outbackphoto.com/the_bag/paul_adapter_note/essay.html

I will be interrested in your impression of this article if it is new to you.
:): The use of the Distagons is getting much more commn by landscape shooters with the 1Ds and the 1DsMkll.

[Andy]

Andy - What adapter are you going to use to mount the Distagon on your 1DsMkll? There is an interesting article on the Digital Outback Photo thread by Paul Caldwell showing some adapters can damage the lens mount of the EOS cameras. Also you MAY void your Canon warranty according to the article as well - http://www.outbackphoto.com/the_bag/paul_adapter_note/essay.html

I will be interrested in your impression of this article if it is new to you.
:): The use of the Distagons is getting much more commn by landscape shooters with the 1Ds and the 1DsMkll.

i had heard of this problem. i exchanged emails with jorge of www.dslrexchange.com and he assures me that their newest models of their adapter have taken this into account. here's what he they said:

. There has been one report of someone who forced the lens beyond its mounting point and broke a switch. There are over 110 of these units out there. I cannot for the life of me understand why someone would use such force. Regardless, the 2nd generation adapter you receive will have a built in stop to keep you from going beyond the mounting point. thus its fool proof. I guarantee your satisfaction with the adapter. The machine work on these units is perfect and the fit is
incredible.

so, i ordered from them. thanks pf!

[pathfinder]

i had heard of this problem. i exchanged emails with jorge of www.dslrexchange.com and he assures me that their newest models of their adapter have taken this into account. here's what he they said:



so, i ordered from them. thanks pf!

It is good to hear that they have added the stop to prevent damage from over rotating the lens mount when removing the adapter. This adapter from dslrexchange seems to be a HOT item right now too.

[Andy]

i will pay a finders fee to anyone who helps me find this lens, and i can actually get my hands on it. the zeiss distagon 21mm. :deal

[dkapp]

i will pay a finders fee to anyone who helps me find this lens, and i can actually get my hands on it. the zeiss distagon 21mm. :deal

Hey...you passed on the one I showed you last week? hmm...I guess I'll back to searching, but it will cost you double this time :deal

Dave

[Andy]

Hey...you passed on the one I showed you last week? hmm...I guess I'll back to searching, but it will cost you double this time :deal

Dave

i didn't pass on it, but he sold thru private "email auction" and the price was w.o.o.w. so i stopped bidding.

everyone: go to grandma's house, look in the attic, basement.... i'll pay good price, joe! :deal

[dkapp]

Is there a huge difference between the distagon, and biogon?

I have absolutely zero knowledge of these lenses, and just came across the biogon model.

Dave

[Andy]

linky to pics and 100pct crops (http://iapf.physik.tu-berlin.de/jbohs/HKO/show/15test.html)

wow. i don't want this one...but it's pretty darn cool.

[dkapp]

You might be in luck. Cross your fingers & check your PM's.

Dave

[Andy]

through lots of research and some help of good friends, and some ebay sniping (i use auctionstealer.com) i secured the 18mm f/4 thru ebay (got it at about 1/2 the going price, and the lens was brand new!) and the 21mm f/2.8 via my good friend, excellent photographer and fine dgrinner michiel de brieder.

the adapter is coming in a week or so from dslrexchange.com and then i'll give these puppies a proper workout!

[Andy]

i will pay a finders fee to anyone who helps me find this lens, and i can actually get my hands on it. the zeiss distagon 21mm. :deal

finder's fee paid :deal

i'm just sayin'

if anyone can find more of these, i'm buying for the right price :deal