Show us your business Card!

[filmphoto]

big talk when you're not posting your card for us to see...

As I say - mine is rubbish too.

When I saw this thread I thought just the inspiration I need, then I realised I should NOT be designing my own card - for the same reasons many here shouldn't. We are photographers - that does not make us designers.

I am not the right person to design my business card - and on the basis of what I've seen here it's true for many others as well.

And again, I repeat, why would you not show yourself off in the best light possible - why cheapskate on the very first thing a client will see?

This is not meant as a put-down - but rather to make us all think about our presentation - this thread did exactly that for me.

[W.W. Webster]

We are photographers - that does not make us designers.

This is not meant as a put-down - but rather to make us all think about our presentation Unfortunately, you won't get much support for such views here, albeit that you offer them in good faith and with a good deal of justification.

There are examples of great design in this thread, but they are far out-weighed by the other kind. However, as they say, there are none so blind that cannot see.

Between you and me, it's better to just keep your head down. :wink

[Jeremy Winterberg]

As I say - mine is rubbish too.

When I saw this thread I thought just the inspiration I need, then I realised I should NOT be designing my own card - for the same reasons many here shouldn't. We are photographers - that does not make us designers.

I am not the right person to design my business card - and on the basis of what I've seen here it's true for many others as well.

And again, I repeat, why would you not show yourself off in the best light possible - why cheapskate on the very first thing a client will see?

This is not meant as a put-down - but rather to make us all think about our presentation - this thread did exactly that for me.

Well, you're business card hopefully isn't the first thing the client sees. It should be your face, your personality, and how you interact with the client. Then you give them the business card as a way to contact you and see your portfolio.

And as a photographer in these days, you need to be a graphic designer as well. If you're not, then I fear you're losing clients by providing horrible Post Processing... and if you're outsourcing that, or skipping that, you really should rethink your hobby/career.

Granted, some of us may be horrible b-card designers... but thats why we post it on here, for C&C to improve. Thats the whole reason for this website. To improve our photographic skills and anything that goes along with it, whether that be PP, GRAPHIC DESIGN, our choice of equipment, or even the decision to start going to school for photography. We're not all professionals (me not being one of those at all), but there are many on here, and we're not all perfect.

Clients cannot expect us to be either of those, but they do expect us to work professionally, and with the precision of a perfectionist.

[squiddy]

just ordered these from Zazzle for 50% off!

[they have business cards on sale all the time. These are indestrucable]

Front/Back

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b271/katiesull/BKM/businesscards.jpg

** in addition to people's views on their own cards... they should represent you and your personality. I agree your clients should get to know you and not base your work on your card BUT many will :/

I designed these so they were to the point - basic info/graphic/bright back and in the plastic type indestructible because if i'm going to tracks people may not be the wallet carrying type. If it gets thrown around it won't get torn up :)

i love graphic design as well - if anyone wants help i'm more than willing to do some design

[Mox]

Interesting discussion here. My business card is just a photo on the front with my name and website on the back. I'm thinking I'll add a bit more on the next re-print.

I realize it's not exactly a business card, but didn't see a reason to start a new thread. I'm having some rack cards printed to distribute in local tack shops and equestrian hangouts. I would love a quick glance over them before I send them to print if anyone has the time or inclination.

I admit that I'm not a designer, or really even a pro photographer yet. I'm a veterinarian looking for a career change. :O

Thanks!

http://www.moxiephotos.com/photos/546638295_mbfM2-L.jpg

[Chris O]

is this on paper on plastic? tres chic if it's on plastic!

It's on paper. I'm getting some samples sent to me this week to see how I should print my next batch. Silk finish is looking pretty rad.

[squiddy]

Yeah Chris yours are pretty Badass.

i really like simplicity

[Chris_ND]

Business card from Matt336 and I. We are pretty happy with the final product, handed a few of them out during a Senior Graduation, We also put some on the vehicles in the parking lot to the students. Kind of the old fashioned spam. =)

Front

http://cmvisuals.smugmug.com/photos/547375309_tx6zh-L.jpg

Back

http://cmvisuals.smugmug.com/photos/547375212_NUmXx-L.jpg


CC Is always Welcomed!:barb

[Hikin' Mike]

Business card from Matt336 and I. We are pretty happy with the final product, handed a few of them out during a Senior Graduation, We also put some on the vehicles in the parking lot to the students. Kind of the old fashioned spam. =)

Front



Back


CC Is always Welcomed!:barb

You do web design and you're using a SmugMug account? Nothing wrong with SmugMug, but I would think a web designer would have a custom site. :huh

[com3]

Well, you're business card hopefully isn't the first thing the client sees. It should be your face, your personality, and how you interact with the client. Then you give them the business card as a way to contact you and see your portfolio.


oh man oh man....i hope they see my card before they see my face... :rofl

[com3]

The whole purpose of this thread is to post your b-card and get feedback and suggestions for it.


i posted my redesign a page back and got nothin on it... :( i KNOW the back of my card needs work, and i was hoping suggestions would spark ideas, cause i got nuthin.

[Jeremy Winterberg]

i posted my redesign a page back and got nothin on it... :( i KNOW the back of my card needs work, and i was hoping suggestions would spark ideas, cause i got nuthin.

I'm a tad handicapped right now. two days ago i got my left hand caught in a jointer and it took the whole pad of my thumb off straight down to the bone. Yesterday i had surgery, they did a skin graph, cut a flap up on my index finger, and attatched my thumb to it so it has blood flowing to heal faster.

Vicodin helps alot! :D
ould do...
but to your design... i think i would change the joe font and make it not so child'ish, and maybe look more like handwritting. also make it more straight and not angled.e going for, but thats what i w

the back.. i would make your url look even more like its a stamp... idk if thats what you wer

can't wait till its healed and i can used my left hand again.

[com3]

but to your design... i think i would change the joe font and make it not so child'ish, and maybe look more like handwritting.


ugh! i know ALL about the hand injuries! last may, i highsided my motorbike and it bounced onto my right hand at 75mph from about 3 feet in the air... then it hit me in the back and we both tumbled before it landed back on me again and we slid to a stop like that...

broken back, broken ribs, bone sticking out of right elbow, torn MCL, road rash on my back (even though i was wearing a full leather road racing suit/boots/gloves) and MAJOR soft tissue damage to my right hand. even though no bones actually broke in my hand, it's still kinda deformed and askew now and doesn't work as well as it used to.

good thing i'm left handed, i guess. speaking of... on my biz card...that IS my hand writing. :) feel better, man!

[ian408]

oh man oh man....i hope they see my card before they see my face... :rofl
No kidding :lol3 Hi Joe :wave

Hey filmphoto. I am taken aback by your comment on the cards people are generating business from. Yeah, some need improvement and that's what people seek when they post here. Sometimes they take the advice and use it or maybe they come up with something different.

In any case, a lot of them are very creative and to fire a shot across the bow calling them crap is grossly unfair. Especially when you haven't shown what you have.

Heck, post yours. Maybe you'll learn something.

[squiddy]

http://4theriders.smugmug.com/photos/451505471_xRiQD-M-1.jpg



old back:

http://4theriders.smugmug.com/photos/451505541_WEYdK-M-2.jpg



new edited back:

http://4theriders.smugmug.com/photos/542016838_34nM2-M.jpg


I like the front, it's fun but will people mistake it for an actual sticker? I dunno but it's a new spin on things. I like the rounded corner idea if you're going for that... it matches with a real name sticker looks like.

I like the label style font on the back, not sure about the wording "events of all sorts"

Maybe just:

Joe Salas - Photograher
www.seppes.com


centered in the middle in black label font but make the length of both lines the same

[Jeremy Winterberg]

ugh! i know ALL about the hand injuries! last may, i highsided my motorbike and it bounced onto my right hand at 75mph from about 3 feet in the air... then it hit me in the back and we both tumbled before it landed back on me again and we slid to a stop like that...

broken back, broken ribs, bone sticking out of right elbow, torn MCL, road rash on my back (even though i was wearing a full leather road racing suit/boots/gloves) and MAJOR soft tissue damage to my right hand. even though no bones actually broke in my hand, it's still kinda deformed and askew now and doesn't work as well as it used to.

good thing i'm left handed, i guess. speaking of... on my biz card...that IS my hand writing. :) feel better, man!

OUCH! THAT BEATS MY ACCIDENT! oops stupid caps lock... don't feel like retyping that...

oh... well it doesn't look like handwritting, it looks like a font type...

idk the card looks good, but i agree with her, i dont like events of all sorts...:dunno

[Tbiafore]

NerdGodPhotography.com

[squiddy]

I would start by taking out the labels for email and website - if people can't figure out which is which they should be slapped. :D

Is there a way you could incorporate the script Photograhy with the lettering in NERDGOD so they overlap a little? Either centered or the photography off to the right a little.


this was MS paint but you get the idea... don't laugh :)
http://i39.tinypic.com/w6oya1.jpg

[Jeremy Winterberg]

NerdGodPhotography.com
I don't really like the font used for Nerdgod... it doesn't match the flower's tone at all...

get rid of email and website labels and put that information down by your names... also, you need to make sure that the information isn't too close to the edges, because sometimes close stuff gets chopped off when they cut the cards, which is why people do not recommend borders and such...

[CherryFotos]

Hope this passes muster ... already had them printed!
http://www.glendacherry.com/GlendaCherry2_sells_bz/files/ccLibraryFiles/Filename/000000000535/BusCard-Photography2-sm.jpg

[Jeremy Winterberg]

Hope this passes muster ... already had them printed!


Welcome to Dgrin!

I like it, it all works pretty well...

I was a tad confused by the different domain names for a bit... but then I visited both, and now I know that you're a realtor/property photographer.

[Chris_ND]

You do web design and you're using a SmugMug account? Nothing wrong with SmugMug, but I would think a web designer would have a custom site. :huh


We had our own site, Then we had smugmug and our own site, and decided to cut it down and make it simple. Most of the Web Design I do is always in person and isn't done through online contacts.

[emeraldrose]

Ok so I have one business card that is what I've been using, but it's a baby on the front which is fine for my family portraiture side, but i want another for my senior portrait side of my biz. so the first image is the one I'm basically using now (just changed the colors a little on the pink text and changed the font to match the rest of my site) and the next 2 are the one's i'm thinking of using. I need any and all opinions. I do want the seniors to think of me as not too stereotypical and that i'm fun to work with, but i also wan to show that i do get the pics mom wants too so let me know. thanks
http://emeraldrosephoto.smugmug.com/photos/572528438_2eZWm-S.jpg


http://emeraldrosephoto.smugmug.com/photos/572535628_PcMc7-S.jpg

http://emeraldrosephoto.smugmug.com/photos/572542372_M2caZ-S.jpg

btw on the old card the pink is light and I also want to know if I should keep the light pink for family and the dark for seniors or if i should just make the pink white, :dunnooh someone with more experience please help with some cc lol:bow

[Chris H]

I'm an architect / photographer, not a graphic designer but I do spend a lot of time looking at and assessing designs / graphics as part of my job, so here's my tuppence.

First of all, I love the the photographs, you're clearly a great photographer.

The things that leap out at me are:

1. Too many words

When I'm looking at a card, I need to know who you are, and what you contact details are, and that's it. Are you Mary Peterson Photographer or Emerald Rose Photography? Do you really need a catch phrase?

2. Too many colours

You have black, white, pink & green. Personally I'd drop at least 1 if not 2 colours (sorry colors for the US).

What about losing the vertical text on the right, nudging the photo right (still leaving a small black edge) and simplifying the text on the left. "Mary Peterson" in white bold "Photographer" in pink or green and the rest of the text smaller and less dominent in white. I'm also not a fan of centred text, I would play around with the font spacing and full justify it all leaving a border left and right the same size as the border you leave to the right of the photograph.

Hope this helps, and remember it's only my opinion.

Cheers
Chris

[wadesworld]

I'd agree with Chris. Too much text, too many colors, and a hard-to-read font.

As in photography, simplicity is key to graphic design as well.

I've looked at a ton of business cards in this thread, and you see a lot of great pictures on business cards, but not a lot of good design. Like a good photographer can make all the difference, so can a good graphic designer. Unfortunately, many photographers think they're designers too.

It would be well worth it for anyone to spend $100 to hire a graphic designer for an hour to give you opinions on your card design. That won't buy you a fully-designed card, but it will buy you their input. But failing that, think "simple, clean and readable" and remember that does not have to equal boring and plain. You're not far off - just need some tweaking.

[emeraldrose]

thanks for the cc, but what about the images, of the last two which should i use to promote the image of my biz that i was talking about?

[Chris H]

Ah, I misunderstood, I thought you were going to use both of the last two. They're both good photos, personally I'd go with the middle one, it's fun and not quite so formal (not that there's anything formal about sitting on a pier in the sea!)

[emeraldrose]

Ah, I misunderstood, I thought you were going to use both of the last two. They're both good photos, personally I'd go with the middle one, it's fun and not quite so formal (not that there's anything formal about sitting on a pier in the sea!)

thanks that's exactly my problem in choosing lol

[Hikin' Mike]

Ok so I have one business card that is what I've been using, but it's a baby on the front which is fine for my family portraiture side, but i want another for my senior portrait side of my biz. so the first image is the one I'm basically using now (just changed the colors a little on the pink text and changed the font to match the rest of my site) and the next 2 are the one's i'm thinking of using. I need any and all opinions. I do want the seniors to think of me as not too stereotypical and that i'm fun to work with, but i also wan to show that i do get the pics mom wants too so let me know. thanks




btw on the old card the pink is light and I also want to know if I should keep the light pink for family and the dark for seniors or if i should just make the pink white, :dunnooh someone with more experience please help with some cc lol:bow

I agree, way too busy IMO. I guess I'm also 'old-school', but I prefer not using a photo on my business card. IMO, a business card is a contact point, referring you to your website/gallery. A small picture isn't going to help. Of course that's just my opinion. :D

A nice logo and your name, business name and contact info is all you need. :thumb

[emeraldrose]

thanks, I like the photo because it does say a little more about who i am as a photographer verses others, but also because it's many people's first time seeing what i do as I have cards in other's businesses
I agree, way too busy IMO. I guess I'm also 'old-school', but I prefer not using a photo on my business card. IMO, a business card is a contact point, referring you to your website/gallery. A small picture isn't going to help. Of course that's just my opinion. :D

A nice logo and your name, business name and contact info is all you need. :thumb

[JAMoore]

I swear, if I see one more business card, logo, etc. in 'papyrus' font, I'm going to go insane.

It's definitely the way-overused font of the decade.

[Hikin' Mike]

I swear, if I see one more business card, logo, etc. in 'papyrus' font, I'm going to go insane.

It's definitely the way-overused font of the decade.

LOL!!! I agree. Would you believe my first logo used 'Papyrus'! :rofl

[Jeremy Winterberg]

It is definitely overused... That and the Trajan Pro font...

[emeraldrose]

I swear, if I see one more business card, logo, etc. in 'papyrus' font, I'm going to go insane.

It's definitely the way-overused font of the decade.

I used it b/c it was the one that seemed the most elegant while being edgy, if you have other suggestions that equal the same thing i'd love to hear them. Personally I haven't seen many people using it.

[shuedini]

Front:
http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp14/Shue-Photography/Other/shuephotosfrontcopy.png

Back:
http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp14/Shue-Photography/Other/shuephotosbackwebcopy.png

What do you think?

[Mox]

I like the concept of using it as a coupon (have considered doing a similar thing myself), but I think the small script font will be extremely difficult to read when printed on a business card. It's a bit difficult even at this size. I'd suggest viewing the card on your monitor at print size before sending anything off, so you can evaluate legibility.

[shuedini]

I like the concept of using it as a coupon (have considered doing a similar thing myself), but I think the small script font will be extremely difficult to read when printed on a business card. It's a bit difficult even at this size. I'd suggest viewing the card on your monitor at print size before sending anything off, so you can evaluate legibility.

Excellent observation. Going back to the drawing board to correct this issue. Thank you!

[JdMassaro Photography]

Here is mine, what do you guys think.

Thanks, Jon

http://jdmassaro.smugmug.com/photos/577631947_UosaP-L.jpg

[squiddy]

Did you do the design yourself? - i like that it's more simplistic, i think we've all agreed on that in the past.

I almost think the photography & graphic design should be together.

Maybe in the left corner your name larger and under it photography & graphic design smaller then your website and phone in the lower right ??

anything on the back?

[Chris H]

Jon,

Tricky one this, you're offering to do graphic design so you're really nailing your colours to the mast with your card. Personally I'm not that keen on the graphic or the layout so I probably wouldn't use you for graphic design.

But each to their own, and if that's your style of graphic design then I'm certain others would like it.

Chris

[JdMassaro Photography]

Thanks guys I applicate your comments.

[Flutist]

Here is a quick redesign. I simplified the numbers and text and cropped the photo to free up some room. Like I said in the seperate thread under big picture, I think you were wasting some space with that photo.

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/101790277-M.jpg

Of course I didn't use your exact logo, just something quick where it should go.


Is that the Gazebo in Plaistow, NH? That's where I grew up and it looks almost exact to the one behind the Town Hall

[Jeremy Winterberg]

Here is mine, what do you guys think.

Thanks, Jon

http://jdmassaro.smugmug.com/photos/577631947_UosaP-M.jpg

I have to agree with the others, in that the graphic does not represent high quality graphic design work... unless that is the type of graphic design you do.

I like the symbol on there, I just think it needs some spicing up, such as maybe some bevel, and also maybe different colors? red and blue are used alot and the grey isn't speaking "Hey I'm bright and amazing!" to me.

I think the and graphic design part is fine where it is. I know typically I would say, pop it up there with photography, but I think it works.

I suggest purchasing a domain name and not using jdmassaro.smugmug.com ... it just looks improfessional, because a lot of people do not know what smugmug is. I didn't know what it was untill one of my friend's dad who had one showed me his... never even heard about it till then. To people that do know what it is, they'll be saying - "sweet, this guy has a really convenient way for us to see our project and/or purchase proofs... etc..."

Just my $0.02... Its a good card, just needs to be restored a bit to perfection!

[Jeremy Winterberg]

Although my current card is fine, and I still have about 900 left of them, I feel the need to change things up a bit.

Current Card:
http://jeremywinterberg.smugmug.com/photos/449591233_GwDBf-L.jpg

Here is a new card I'm working on for myself. Debating on having the camera "logo" on the back or not.

Have at me.

Rounded Edges - Color front and Back - UV Front, No coating on back - 14pt card stock - thinking of getting 500-1000

Front:
http://jeremywinterberg.smugmug.com/photos/584374780_ajVVr-L.jpg

Back:
http://jeremywinterberg.smugmug.com/photos/584361961_d6ytc-L.jpg

Along with the new cards I will be redesigning my website and smugmug site. I'm going for a more simplistic look now since thats the trend today.

And too many clients know my email address as it is, so I'm not going to change it to one with my domain name instead of charter.net... just to make it clear for those on here that like to challenge that.

[Hikin' Mike]

Although my current card is fine, and I still have about 900 left of them, I feel the need to change things up a bit.

Current Card:


Here is a new card I'm working on for myself. Debating on having the camera "logo" on the back or not.

Have at me.

Rounded Edges - Color front and Back - UV Front, No coating on back - 14pt card stock - thinking of getting 500-1000

Front:


Back:


Along with the new cards I will be redesigning my website and smugmug site. I'm going for a more simplistic look now since thats the trend today.

And too many clients know my email address as it is, so I'm not going to change it to one with my domain name instead of charter.net... just to make it clear for those on here that like to challenge that.

IMO I like your current card. :thumb

I do like the font of the "new" card better than your current card, but I don't care for the embossing treatment and the box/stroke. Lose the camera on the back of the card. It looks so unprofessional. I would probably lose the Session/Photography notes info. Just keep your website/e-mail/name/phone.

[Jeremy Winterberg]

IMO I like your current card. :thumb

I do like the font of the "new" card better than your current card, but I don't care for the embossing treatment and the box/stroke. Lose the camera on the back of the card. It looks so unprofessional. I would probably lose the Session/Photography notes info. Just keep your website/e-mail/name/phone.

Everything you said I agree with and was thinking it as I posted it on here. It looks alot better with just my contact info on the back.

I was going to have the session info stuff on there because whenever I go to like a doctor or dentist w/e and they give you their business card and on it they have areas where they wrote in your next appointment so you don't forget etc... but I can just write it on there without set places for it.

One thing I don't like about my "current" card is that the back side is UV coated... I thought I didn't have them coated but they are. Sooo in turn I cannot write on the back even. Also I'm getting a tad sick of them because they don't really have a WOW factor to them.

New versions with changes made...

http://jeremywinterberg.smugmug.com/photos/584414066_LSnur-M.jpg
http://jeremywinterberg.smugmug.com/photos/584415230_Q7ha4-M.jpg

[manda]

Would any one be able to give me your thoughts on these logos please?

From left to right #1, #2, #3 or #4

thanks Mandy

My tag is 'Amanda Herbert Photography'

27920

Intellectual property rights to: http://99designs.com/contests/24577 which is a fantastic recommendation for logo designs.

[Jeremy Winterberg]

Would any one be able to give me your thoughts on these logos please?

From left to right #1, #2, #3 or #4

thanks Mandy

My tag is 'Amanda Herbert Photography'


Intellectual property rights to: http://99designs.com/contests/24577 which is a fantastic recommendation for logo designs.

I like the two on the left. the top one more than the bottom one but those are my favorite.

[Hikin' Mike]

Everything you said I agree with and was thinking it as I posted it on here. It looks alot better with just my contact info on the back.

I was going to have the session info stuff on there because whenever I go to like a doctor or dentist w/e and they give you their business card and on it they have areas where they wrote in your next appointment so you don't forget etc... but I can just write it on there without set places for it.

One thing I don't like about my "current" card is that the back side is UV coated... I thought I didn't have them coated but they are. Sooo in turn I cannot write on the back even. Also I'm getting a tad sick of them because they don't really have a WOW factor to them.

New versions with changes made...




I do like the changes. I think I'd change the font on everything except for your business name. The script font is a bit hard to read. :huh

Why not keep the current 'contact info' font? :wink

[Jeremy Winterberg]

I do like the changes. I think I'd change the font on everything except for your business name. The script font is a bit hard to read. :huh

Why not keep the current 'contact info' font? :wink
Because I tried it and it didn't look the greatest... Plus I like this script font because it adds a little modern feel to it.

Ordered 1000 16pt Dull Cover - Matte Finish w/ Rounded Corners UV coated on the front from gotprint.com

Should be alot more professional looking and more "modern" than my old card. Now its time to start on my website... :rolleyes

[Hikin' Mike]

Because I tried it and it didn't look the greatest... Plus I like this script font because it adds a little modern feel to it.

Ordered 1000 16pt Dull Cover - Matte Finish w/ Rounded Corners UV coated on the front from gotprint.com

Should be alot more professional looking and more "modern" than my old card. Now its time to start on my website... :rolleyes

Hope you can read the text. Of course my 44 year-old eyes aren't like they used to be! :cry

[manda]

Thanks for your feedback, it is my favorite too if I decide to go conservative!

Here is the suggested card (http://99designs.com/contests/24577/entries/2197933)

thanks Mandy (peeps do give any feedback if you spot some thing!)

[Hikin' Mike]

Thanks for your feedback, it is my favorite too if I decide to go conservative!

Here is the suggested card (http://99designs.com/contests/24577/entries/2197933)

thanks Mandy (peeps do give any feedback if you spot some thing!)

FWIW, I first thought it was 'ALF'.

[Jeremy Winterberg]

FWIW, I first thought it was 'ALF'.

I guess your 44 year-old eyes are failing you :rofl

[manda]

Hang on let me check ..................... nope I'm a girl!

But I'm glad you shared that thought, may be others will see ALF too!

[Hikin' Mike]

I guess your 44 year-old eyes are failing you :rofl

Yep!:rofl

EDIT: My wife (not quite 40 :lust ) said 'AH', but agreed that it could say 'ALF'. I do like it regardless.

[Chris H]

It could also say Wf. lowercase 'a' and capital 'H' is a wee bit difficult to read, he brain doesn't clock it immediately (at least mine doesn't).

Otherwise it's one of the best cards I've seen on here.

[JaeSen]

I spent several days playing around with how to design my card for my newly developed business. This is what I finally came up with. I already have ordered them, but figured I could still use some honest opinions from my fellow dgrinners. The photo I used is what I have designed my logo/theme around, it is one of my absolute favorites. I wanted the card to be simple, yet elegant. My signature and the "PHOTOGRAPHY" are being foiled for a little added zing. The back is plain white with a place to put "date/time" for an appointment. So what is the verdict?

If you go to my site you will see they pretty much blend with my overall theme. I want all of my stuff to match so it looks more professional and well thought out. All my print packaging, etc. has a black, pink, grey, white scheme to it.

I also had matching postcards made, only difference is the size and that in the black spacing along the left it says

SENIORS
WEDDINGS
PROMS
FAMILIES
CHILDREN

in the same font as PHOTOGRAPHY, just smaller and in the grey color. I will use those for issuing to seniors at my local high school.



http://jaesen.smugmug.com/photos/588453386_4Nc7z-M.jpg

[Jeremy Winterberg]

I spent several days playing around with how to design my card for my newly developed business. This is what I finally came up with. I already have ordered them, but figured I could still use some honest opinions from my fellow dgrinners. The photo I used is what I have designed my logo/theme around, it is one of my absolute favorites. I wanted the card to be simple, yet elegant. My signature and the "PHOTOGRAPHY" are being foiled for a little added zing. The back is plain white with a place to put "date/time" for an appointment. So what is the verdict?

If you go to my site you will see they pretty much blend with my overall theme. I want all of my stuff to match so it looks more professional and well thought out. All my print packaging, etc. has a black, pink, grey, white scheme to it.

I also had matching postcards made, only difference is the size and that in the black spacing along the left it says

SENIORS
WEDDINGS
PROMS
FAMILIES
CHILDREN

in the same font as PHOTOGRAPHY, just smaller and in the grey color. I will use those for issuing to seniors at my local high school.

I think it looks fine, although I would've changed the embossing on your signature, looks a little too "Hey guys I just bought adobe! (most people refer to photoshop as adobe when they don't know much)"

The tag line, or slogan, is kind of hard to read because of the picture being right there. Maybe its the gradient you have on it?

And I think the contact info should have a little different font than what you have, and maybe even a tad smaller?

Just my opinion - All in all I think its a good starting point, needs some work, but will be fine for now.

[Mohamed.Ghuloom]

Here is the front

[Mohamed.Ghuloom]

and here is the back


would appreciate any suggestions

[JaeSen]

I think it looks fine, although I would've changed the embossing on your signature, looks a little too "Hey guys I just bought adobe! (most people refer to photoshop as adobe when they don't know much)"

The tag line, or slogan, is kind of hard to read because of the picture being right there. Maybe its the gradient you have on it?

And I think the contact info should have a little different font than what you have, and maybe even a tad smaller?

Just my opinion - All in all I think its a good starting point, needs some work, but will be fine for now.

The contact info is 8pt. When I printed my proof before ordering it seems pretty small as it is so I didn't want to make it much smaller. What font would you suggest? I didn't want too many different fonts, I like things to coordinate. I chose Georgia and Engravers MT as the two main fonts for my business.

As for the signature, I hear what you're saying... I really wanted it to have that 3D stamped look and I wanted it to be black so had to put a little highlighting behind it in order to see it with the black background. I had played around with different options before deciding on this. I had thought about not using the beveled edge and highlighting and just making the signature silver or grey, but it looked very blah and didn't look as elegant as the black on black. What would your suggestion be for the signature?

On the tagline, I tried grey and you couldn't see it over the picture, of course black you can't see over the background... I went with the gradient look so it changes colors as the backgorund changes. It may be something I change on my next batch.

Thanks for the input, much appreciated!

[RoadRash]

Please let me know what you think......:dunno
28010

[com3]

Please let me know what you think......:dunno
28010


SQUID! :wink

[RoadRash]

SQUID! :wink
N I C E . . . Thanks for the helpful input.
I appriciate it, makes me want to keep coming back for advice.

By the way I enjoy 4theriders.com

[ian408]

N I C E . . . Thanks for the helpful input.
I appriciate it, makes me want to keep coming back for advice.

By the way I enjoy 4theriders.com

Don't mind Joe. He's just old and cranky :lol3

[babymelons]

Really like the font in this card -- what is it? Or is that hand written?

Great Thread Ginger....I too like to see others cards never thought of starting a thread for it.



Here is mine, it too is a really bad scan of it. I need to figure out how to better use my scanner to get better results. The card looks great in person.

Anyways.....here it is...

[Hikin' Mike]

Really like the font in this card -- what is it? Or is that hand written?

I doubt he'll see this, this was posted back in 2005. :rofl

It's a very common font called "Scriptina (http://www.dafont.com/scriptina.font)".

[CaroleHayes]

I have eight cards, because I couldn't make up my mind. :rofl

It works out though, because different people like different ones, and they're all being picked up at one point or another.... : )

[Jeremy Winterberg]

I have eight cards, because I couldn't make up my mind. :rofl

It works out though, because different people like different ones, and they're all being picked up at one point or another.... : )

Normally I dont care for pictures on business cards, but you really pulled it off! I like all 8 of them.

[CaroleHayes]

Normally I dont care for pictures on business cards, but you really pulled it off! I like all 8 of them.

Thanks! :sweet

[J.W.Lee Photo]

Designed and print these myself. I've made a few minor changes here and there, but it's looked pretty much the same all along. I print them on Avery linen textured, clean edge cards. I love them, and I've always gotten a comment on them when I hand them out. Click on the card to check out my site. C&C always welcome.

http://jwleephoto.smugmug.com/photos/596557464_2ppKf-M-1.jpg (http://www.jwleephoto.com)

http://jwleephoto.smugmug.com/photos/596557441_QA4Vc-M-1.jpg (http://www.jwleephoto.com)

[Hikin' Mike]

Designed and print these myself. I've made a few minor changes here and there, but it's looked pretty much the same all along. I print them on Avery linen textured, clean edge cards. I love them, and I've always gotten a comment on them when I hand them out. Click on the card to check out my site. C&C always welcome.




I would lose the camera...it's way too distracting and very amateurish IMO. I really like the signature "graphic" but it gets lost on your business name. If you could some how separate the two, I think it would look ten times better.

[J.W.Lee Photo]

I would lose the camera...it's way too distracting and very amateurish IMO. I really like the signature "graphic" but it gets lost on your business name. If you could some how separate the two, I think it would look ten times better.

Thanks for the tips. Much appreciated. The signature with text over it is currently my "logo". So until I have something to replace it, I'm going to keep it that way. It matches the "logo" on my website, so I like the continuity I have with that currently. As far as the camera goes, I'm open for suggestions. The main reason I put it there is because I didn't want to have a plain card with only text on it. But I do understand what you're saying about it. Any suggestions for change? :scratch

[Hikin' Mike]

Thanks for the tips. Much appreciated. The signature with text over it is currently my "logo". So until I have something to replace it, I'm going to keep it that way. It matches the "logo" on my website, so I like the continuity I have with that currently. As far as the camera goes, I'm open for suggestions. The main reason I put it there is because I didn't want to have a plain card with only text on it. But I do understand what you're saying about it. Any suggestions for change? :scratch

I'm all for continuity. Your card is black & white and your website logo has color. Pick one.

As far as your card, I know you think it may look boring, but I really think losing the picture will make your card look classy. As it is, it just looks amateurish. I'm also not a fan of all of that text on the back.

Is this your actual signature?

[emeraldrose]

Thanks for the tips. Much appreciated. The signature with text over it is currently my "logo". So until I have something to replace it, I'm going to keep it that way. It matches the "logo" on my website, so I like the continuity I have with that currently. As far as the camera goes, I'm open for suggestions. The main reason I put it there is because I didn't want to have a plain card with only text on it. But I do understand what you're saying about it. Any suggestions for change? :scratch

what about a black matte card with white text, it looks very classy.

[J.W.Lee Photo]

what about a black matte card with white text, it looks very classy.

The only problem with that is I print these cards myself.

[Jeremy Winterberg]

The only problem with that is I print these cards myself.

Well, I would get away from doing that... because the quality will go up A LOT, and over time it will save you money (ink, paper, printer, etc...) I recommend gotprint.com - you can get 1000 cards for like $13+shipping

[manda]

What size font do people generally use, I'm finding myself lost with the on-line printers and am worried that the screen proofs are nothing like the actual card in your hand!

I have used size 10 and 6 with avant guard font so far.

thanks Mandy

[denisegoldberg]

Thanks for the tips. Much appreciated. The signature with text over it is currently my "logo". So until I have something to replace it, I'm going to keep it that way. It matches the "logo" on my website, so I like the continuity I have with that currently.
I agree with Hikin' Mike. The camera in the background of your card definitely gives a non-professional look to your card. I don't think the brand of the camera you use (should) matter to your potential customers. What matters is the quality of your shots.

A plain card would be a big improvement.

--- Denise

[bobcool]

Okay I finally took the step to create business cards. The several shoots that I have done in the past are catching up to me - people are referring me to their friends and family and everyone asks for a business card. So, I went to gotoprint.com and uploaded my card. I'm currently waiting for the online proof to show up before clicking the order button. I was going for a clean look with the intent to draw people to my site. C & C appreciated!

http://rfcphotography.smugmug.com/photos/601241775_68ZMi-M-1.jpg

[goldenstarphoto]

Okay I finally took the step to create business cards. The several shoots that I have done in the past are catching up to me - people are referring me to their friends and family and everyone asks for a business card. So, I went to gotoprint.com and uploaded my card. I'm currently waiting for the online proof to show up before clicking the order button. I was going for a clean look with the intent to draw people to my site. C & C appreciated!

http://rfcphotography.smugmug.com/photos/601241775_68ZMi-M-1.jpg

I like this card Bob, nice and clean. The only thing I personnaly would change is adding a phone number or e-mail below your website, but that's just a matter of personal taste.

edit: "I was going for a clean look with the intent to draw people to my site." Just re-read this, I guess people would have to go to your site to find your contact info............

[denisegoldberg]

http://rfcphotography.smugmug.com/photos/601241775_68ZMi-M-1.jpg
I think it would look better if there were text only on one side of the card. I'd move the photo to one side or the other (probably to the right because of the way your model is standing, with the text on the left) , blur the background a bit more, and use bolder text.

--- Denise

[Hikin' Mike]

I think it would look better if there were text only on one side of the card. I'd move the photo to one side or the other (probably to the right because of the way your model is standing, with the text on the left) , blur the background a bit more, and use bolder text.

--- Denise

I generally don't like photo business cards. As it is right now it looks too busy. If you must use this photo, then I agree with Denise, move all of the text to the left.

[Hikin' Mike]

What size font do people generally use, I'm finding myself lost with the on-line printers and am worried that the screen proofs are nothing like the actual card in your hand!

I have used size 10 and 6 with avant guard font so far.

thanks Mandy

I don't go below 8pt for the contact info (e-mail/web). I use a larger font for my name.

[Jeremy Winterberg]

I think I used 6pt-8pt font on my most recent card... its really small.. as I was warned by hikin' mike... its still readable, just small.. old people would not be able to read it, but they're not my primary target demographic... so it works.

[squiddy]

I've been on a redesign bug lately... which do ya'll like [yikes sorry for the hugeness]

Option 1:
Front/Back
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b271/katiesull/BKM/verticalcardfront.gif http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b271/katiesull/BKM/BKMCardVerticalBack.gif


Option 2:
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b271/katiesull/BKM/BigKnuckleCards2.gif

Option 3:
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b271/katiesull/BKM/BigKnuckleCards3.gif

[ian408]

I have two opinions of non-standard sizes. The first is they're difficult to file with other cards. That said, the odd size make them easy to find and more importantly, they stand out from others. I'd like option 1.

[Kinkajou]

I've been on a redesign bug lately... which do ya'll like [yikes sorry for the hugeness]


The actual brass knuckles look a little cartoony to me. Could you get a shot of some to use instead? I like the layout, though.

[squiddy]

Thanks for your input Ian.

I had posted them and they were huge, i had to wait for photobucket to resize. They should come out as regular business size 2 x 3.5. I've wary of the vertical cards :/

Kinkajou: I thought about using an actual photo but i don't like the idea of photos on cards. It's a personal choice for me...
Would it look less cartoony if it was just a cutout?

[Vycor]

Don't remember if i posted mine or not, can't find my own post so heres mine:

Front
http://www.adamdaley.com/front.jpg

Back:
http://www.adamdaley.com/back.jpg

And when i give out my business cards to firefighters/things of that nature:

http://www.fdphotos.net/front.jpg

[Phenomenological]

The photo may have been boring on its own, but I realised it could possibly make a good business card - It's pretty plain and simple so it isn't distracting, but is still eye catching. I don't even have a business yet, so I'm just playing around really. I'd like to come up with a business name etc as I'm slowly branching out into that kind of area but...Naming isn't a strong point! So I've kept the card simple.

http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv135/Phenomenological/BusinessCard.jpg

[Hikin' Mike]

The photo may have been boring on its own, but I realised it could possibly make a good business card - It's pretty plain and simple so it isn't distracting, but is still eye catching. I don't even have a business yet, so I'm just playing around really. I'd like to come up with a business name etc as I'm slowly branching out into that kind of area but...Naming isn't a strong point! So I've kept the card simple.



I would at least put you name first, then "Photography"...and also bump up the font of your name a few points.

[Jeremy Winterberg]

I would at least put you name first, then "Photography"...and also bump up the font of your name a few points.:agree also want to add that the picture you're using is very simple, and I think it works for a business card.

[ElginetPhotos]

I used VistaPrint, good price, good quality.
http://chrismooreimages.smugmug.com/photos/400631715_JCodr-M-0.jpg

This is just plain Class, Chirs. Nice job.

[South Shore Snapshots]

Here's my newest creation:

http://southshoresnapshots.smugmug.com/photos/616411317_DbKBz-L.jpg

I used Vista Print dot ca after almost choking on the real life quote I got from the local print shop. Very happy with the print quality and the price.

Rob

[Kinkajou]

Kinkajou: I thought about using an actual photo but i don't like the idea of photos on cards. It's a personal choice for me...
Would it look less cartoony if it was just a cutout?

Yeah, yeah... like a silouhette? That would definitely work.

[JohnBiggs]

I just ordered MOO cards. So I'd have to post 100 different cards. :D

[squirl033]

here's mine... had it made at Printingforless.com, very impressed with their quality. prices not the cheapest out there, but not bad, and their customer service is outstanding. they'll work with you on the proofs until it's just what you want before they print.

http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz47/squirl035/SecondBeachIIIbizcardrev3bsm.jpg

[Mohamed.Ghuloom]

Here are my new business cards, what you think? :clap

[bendruckerphoto]

Just realized I never posted mine...

http://img.skitch.com/20090824-tbj6qe3p1sbiibmrxj8f77adhs.jpg

http://img.skitch.com/20090824-db5ymeu825n4rupaq4r4gqdqji.jpg

The background is black. They may look slightly grayish or have a color cast because of the way I uploaded them. These were done at OvernightPrints. They messed up the first two orders and about 1/3 of the cards had major defects. They were very nice and reprinted the order a second time (which they messed up). I got an email from the CEO telling me why the issue was occuring (all black + uv coating + humidity + stacking = bad) and promised the next order would be hand approved and would be perfect. To his word, they arrived and were flawless. Great company. Highly recommend.

[Jeremy Winterberg]

Here are my new business cards, what you think? :clap
Very vibrant. I like!

[DrDavid]

New cards to share:
Front:
http://www.wolfsnap.com/photos/627881785_ob2Xb-S.jpg

Back:
http://www.wolfsnap.com/photos/627881805_Hb8D2-S.jpg

I've gotten good feedback on the cards so far. I'm really happy with the way it turned out :) Anyways, just wanted to share!

David

[lisasolonynko]

Hi all,

I need to order new bus. cards and thought I would try a redesign. I have two completely different style. Opinions are really appreciated.

http://www.lisasolonynko.com/photos/638304755_dHs2Y-L.jpg


This one is a smoke image I shot... much different than the first image.


http://www.lisasolonynko.com/photos/638304759_wfuM8-L.jpg


Thanks for the feedback.

Lisa

[Angelo]

Lisa:

They're both lovely images.

I don't like the varying direction of the type layout in the b/w.

you have a kerning problem in your typeface that needs to be corrected before you go to print.

[JaeSen]

Lisa,

I like the yellow one, it's more vibrant and colorful.

The black one is very cool though...it almost looks like the figure of a woman with a long flowing skirt and long hair, as if she's dancing. It gets the imagination going...

Of course, what kind of photography do you do mostly and which one represents it better? That's the deciding factor, I think.

[lisasolonynko]

Thank you for your feedback.

Angelo: yeah, I saw the kearning. When I am happy with the design I will change the font into a vector so that the font will be clean for print.

I was at odds about the direction of the b/w print as well. Sadly, I have such a long last name....

Jaesen: They have a completely different feel from each other. I am actually leaning toward more abstract photography. I do portraits, etc. but I have an opportunity to focus on my abstract pieces at an artisan gallery/shop. I was thinking of maybe having two different cards for different clients/focuses. I am not sure if that would interfere with my branding too much though.

Your feedback is awesome. Thank you so much.

Lisa

[DrDavid]

Hi all,

I need to order new bus. cards and thought I would try a redesign. I have two completely different style. Opinions are really appreciated.

http://www.lisasolonynko.com/photos/638304755_dHs2Y-L.jpg
I really like the flower one. It's very serene. Nicely done :)

[lisasolonynko]

Thank you DrDavid. I think it is serene and that the yellow will really stand out.

Oh yeah. JaeSen: Yes, I thought it looked like a woman dancing as well. It came out of the camera that way....I was completely shocked. The only thing I did to it was clean up the background and add a bit of extra smoke (from another image I took) to complete the skirt. I was experimenting with an incense stick this weekend, and was very happy with the result. I am glad you see the lady too, and it is not just my own vivid imagination. :)

[Mox]

Lisa - They're both gorgeous, but I really love the yellow one. And I think it can be representative of multiple genres, including your abstract work. Lovely.

[lisasolonynko]

Thank you for your kind words mox.

I think I will go with the yellow one. I will work on cleaning up the text so it will print really well.

Thank you for all of your input, everyone.

Lisa

[Kinkajou]

My first attempt at making a business card.

C&C appreciated

http://kozelsky.smugmug.com/photos/650043787_nTFjL-M.jpg

Thanks!

[Hikin' Mike]

My first attempt at making a business card.

C&C appreciated

Thanks!

I hope you haven't printed them yet because I can hardly read it. First off, I'm not a fan of photos on a business card. If you must have photos, pick one. I would lose the text on the right....very confusing to read. I would bump your name/info by at least 50% and maybe pick a different font. Buy a "real" domain and e-mail instead of "gmail" and "kozelsky.smugmug.com ". It really doesn't say "professional" or serious to me.

But that's my .02 pennies....

Good luck!

[Kinkajou]

Ok, maybe I need to clarify a few things:

1. I'm not pro, and don't intend to be for a couple years because
2. I'm not earning the kind of income you need in order to buy a real domain, pay for design, and get all of the necessary photographic equipment that a professional should have so
3. the purpose of the cards is to slowly start getting my name out there by giving them to friends and family or people who ask me about my photos, not to really solicit high-paying jobs at this point.

I know some folks out there don't like photos on the cards, but I like it because the person that sees your card knows right away that you know what you're doing with your camera and there is no question what you're trying to advertize. That said, I could work on narrowing it down to fewer shots.

Since my last name scares people (a K and a Z and SKY! run away!), I wanted to break it up into the syllables to sort of show people how to pronounce it, but maybe I'll do only my last name that way and photographic together as one word - maybe vertical?

I will work on the font size.

This is only a first try (read: draft), so no need to get carried away, here :)

[JaeSen]

Ok, maybe I need to clarify a few things:

1. I'm not pro, and don't intend to be for a couple years because
2. I'm not earning the kind of income you need in order to buy a real domain, pay for design, and get all of the necessary photographic equipment that a professional should have so
3. the purpose of the cards is to slowly start getting my name out there by giving them to friends and family or people who ask me about my photos, not to really solicit high-paying jobs at this point.

I know some folks out there don't like photos on the cards, but I like it because the person that sees your card knows right away that you know what you're doing with your camera and there is no question what you're trying to advertize. That said, I could work on narrowing it down to fewer shots.

Since my last name scares people (a K and a Z and SKY! run away!), I wanted to break it up into the syllables to sort of show people how to pronounce it, but maybe I'll do only my last name that way and photographic together as one word - maybe vertical?

I will work on the font size.

This is only a first try (read: draft), so no need to get carried away, here :)

I'm bascially doing the same thing...starting out small, not wanting huge jobs, getting my name out there. BUT you still have to make your first impression the best one! If you print cards and hand them out now, they will be out there for awhile even AFTER you consider yourself a pro. As for the domain name, they're $10.00 at godaddy.com and you get the email address to go with it. Not a huge expense for something that speaks volumes! I agree with Mike about the broken up text, WOW! Really hard to read. My maiden name was Senoski so I get it, but don't make excuses for people...they'll either figure it out, they'll ask or you can kindly correct them. If you seriously want to break it up do it horizontally with bullets between like (Ko * zel * sky). Although do you really say it "sky" or is it "ski"? All of my family with sky still say "ski" so you may just be confusing your clients more by breaking it into syllables.

[denisegoldberg]

My first attempt at making a business card.

Lose the text on the right - it's not readable as it is.

Make the text on the right - your contact information - larger and easier to read.

And in spite of you saying you are not a pro yet, set up a custom domain and an email address to go with it. You should be able to do that for less than $10 a year. It makes very little sense to get potential customers accustomed to an email address and URL and then change that on them later.

--- Denise

[Kinkajou]

Ok, the domain thing makes sense. Question, though. If I want to get a smugmug pro account next year, will I be able to use the godaddy domain with it? I guess I've been putting it off because I plan to keep my kozelsky.smugmug.com and get a second smugmug account so I can have one pro site and one personal site, and it's likely that I'll get married in a couple years anyway, so my name will change... so it's all very temporary and therefore hard for me to pin down what the right thing to do is. I've thought about using a fictitious name like 'red maple foto', but i'm still not 100% sure about that.

I guess I just really have to figure out what my priorities are and how I want to do this. I was really aiming for something quick and easy, but apparently that's not the way to go :)

Thanks again for all the feedback.

Jae - it's like the word "ski" - ski is generally Polish and sky is Czech or Slovakian, but same pronunciation for both spellings. I just have so many people butcher it... someone came up with Kazinski after reading it. I've even had "kaz... kaz... kaz..forget about it" once while an announcer was reading it out! kaz.. kaz... kazelowski? is the usual attempt. Sometimes it's funny, but sometimes it's frustrating.

[Hikin' Mike]

Ok, the domain thing makes sense. Question, though. If I want to get a smugmug pro account next year, will I be able to use the godaddy domain with it? I guess I've been putting it off because I plan to keep my kozelsky.smugmug.com and get a second smugmug account so I can have one pro site and one personal site, and it's likely that I'll get married in a couple years anyway, so my name will change... so it's all very temporary and therefore hard for me to pin down what the right thing to do is. I've thought about using a fictitious name like 'red maple foto', but i'm still not 100% sure about that.

I guess I just really have to figure out what my priorities are and how I want to do this. I was really aiming for something quick and easy, but apparently that's not the way to go :)

Thanks again for all the feedback.

Jae - it's like the word "ski" - ski is generally Polish and sky is Czech or Slovakian, but same pronunciation for both spellings. I just have so many people butcher it... someone came up with Kazinski after reading it. I've even had "kaz... kaz... kaz..forget about it" once while an announcer was reading it out! kaz.. kaz... kazelowski? is the usual attempt. Sometimes it's funny, but sometimes it's frustrating.

I'm not doing this full time, heck...I'm only a nature photographer and there's no money in it, but I wanted a professional-looking website and card. Using or not using photos on a card is just a preference. I don't use them, but if you do, I just thing you need to use one.

BTW...my name is "Matenkosky" and it's Polish :rofl

[Hikin' Mike]

I was bored and put something together. If you don't like it...no problem. I didn't put the photo too close to the edge of the card because when they cut them, if they don't cut it "centered" it will show.

http://www.imagesinthebackcountry.com/images/web_temp/Untitled-1.jpg

[JaeSen]

kristin,

As for your name I figured it was "ski" that's why I said breaking into syllables would be even more confusing because it will almost surely make them say "sky." I'm 1/4 Polish, 1/4 Slavic. My family is from the old country although I know not much about it except a few of my favorite foods and the curse words my 90 year old Aunt is always saying! LOL! Glad to meet some fellow Slavs/Poles on the site! :lust

As for your new attempt at a card...I like it much better. I maybe would change the background color to something that blends with the photo more.

You can always upgrade the account you have know to a pro account when ready and then get a new personal account. The domain main is simple, you go on godaddy.com and purchase it for a year or longer and then type the info into your domain setting under the control panel (maybe only available on a pro account). The email account comes free with the domain. It really is worth it and you should make the investment!

Good luck in your adventure!

[Hikin' Mike]

kristin,...

As for your new attempt at a card...I like it much better. I maybe would change the background color to something that blends with the photo more. ....

You mean my "attempt"? :rofl

The second card was my "quick and dirty" example for Kristin. :D

[JaeSen]

You mean my "attempt"? :rofl

The second card was my "quick and dirty" example for Kristin. :D

Totally didn't even catch that...wow! I must give credit where due! :thumb

[Kinkajou]

Hehe! That is definitely a simpler design.

Good to know about the domain/pro account info, Jae - thanks for that!

So, I wanted to tell you that I've totally scrapped my first draft and started over with a 100% different design thanks to you guys helping me to see the light. It's nearly done, but here's what I've got so far. I spent the $5 for the graphic art and will get the domain soon, so kept current web/email as placeholders. Forgot about the full bleed thing - that's why the image is so messy around the pinkie and edges. Will definitely clean that up.

I appreciate all your help!

Side 1
http://kozelsky.smugmug.com/photos/651606615_udDmn-M.jpg

Side 2
http://kozelsky.smugmug.com/photos/651608248_GQfEH-M.jpg

[JaeSen]

I like it! A few suggestions...take them or leave them.

On Side 1
I would align the word Photography differently, it seems out of place. Maybe directly under Kozelsky or maybe change the font, it just doesn't look right to me. The font on the contact info is good and a good size too. It is out of line with your name, either set it left or center it (or even set hard right against the graphic).

On Side 2
Love the photo and the colors match great. I would get rid of the artwork and center your name within the white space (both vertically and horizontally). If you really want the artwork on there, maybe decrease the size and use as a bullet before and after your name or even between the first and last name??

Just ides. I think you're on the right track!

As for printing, I would definitely get a UV coating on front and back to make those colors pop. Use someone like GotPrint.com where you can get a lot of them for practically nothing. They'll send you a free sample kit with lots of paper types to choose from.

Good luck! :thumb

[Hikin' Mike]

Hehe! That is definitely a simpler design.

Good to know about the domain/pro account info, Jae - thanks for that!

So, I wanted to tell you that I've totally scrapped my first draft and started over with a 100% different design thanks to you guys helping me to see the light. It's nearly done, but here's what I've got so far. I spent the $5 for the graphic art and will get the domain soon, so kept current web/email as placeholders. Forgot about the full bleed thing - that's why the image is so messy around the pinkie and edges. Will definitely clean that up.

I appreciate all your help!

Side 1


Side 2

Much better! The only suggestion is kerning "Photography" a bit...

http://www.imagesinthebackcountry.com/images/web_temp/kk.jpg

I'll remove the card when you have seen it...

[Kinkajou]

The reason I offset 'photography' is that it's not part of a company name, but just kind of there to tell people what this card is for when they find it in a drawer in six months :)

Will work on alignment of text.

Thanks again for all the feedback, guys!

[JaeSen]

The reason I offset 'photography' is that it's not part of a company name, but just kind of there to tell people what this card is for when they find it in a drawer in six months :)

Will work on alignment of text.

Thanks again for all the feedback, guys!


Maybe you'd rather use Photographer than Photography?

[Hikin' Mike]

Maybe you'd rather use Photographer than Photography?

Good idea! Then put "Photographer" on top of her contact info instead of below her name. :D

[DEye]

http://www.pixelexcellence.com/photos/651974022_FPJN9-S.jpg

Currently one side only, we are not in the business just needed something to supply to those that ask and are interested in our work. I am not fully happy with the type, seems a little busy with my pic as the background, c & c welcome...:dunno

[Hikin' Mike]

Currently one side only, we are not in the business just needed something to supply to those that ask and are interested in our work. I am not fully happy with the type, seems a little busy with my pic as the background, c & c welcome...:dunno

I agree...way too busy for my tastes and I can hardly read the text. Not very effective IMO. Nice picture though!

Your script font for your name is fine, but I think you need a different font for your contact info.

[DEye]

I agree...way too busy for my tastes and I can hardly read the text. Not very effective IMO. Nice picture though!

Your script font for your name is fine, but I think you need a different font for your contact info.

Thanks Mike, the card was a quick creation I had just finished prior to seeing this thread. I love the picture but it doesn't seem to allow room for all the type other than the name without looking busy / cluttered. Perhaps it will do for a backside with name only, once I figure it out I'll post the adjusted version. Anyway thanks for the critique...

One question though, IMO? Translation?

[Hikin' Mike]

Thanks Mike, the card was a quick creation I had just finished prior to seeing this thread. I love the picture but it doesn't seem to allow room for all the type other than the name without looking busy / cluttered. Perhaps it will do for a backside with name only, once I figure it out I'll post the adjusted version. Anyway thanks for the critique...

One question though, IMO? Translation?

In My Opinion. :wink

[printergirl]

Wow...this thread has been so helpful! I have been reading it for an hour straight and enjoyed looking at everyone's cards. So, will go ahead and throw my in the ring for C&C. Too plain? I haven't had them printed yet, so changes could be made.

http://nkramer.smugmug.com/photos/654588490_UbzQk-XL.jpg

[CaroleHayes]

Wow...this thread has been so helpful! I have been reading it for an hour straight and enjoyed looking at everyone's cards. So, will go ahead and throw my in the ring for C&C. Too plain? I haven't had them printed yet, so changes could be made.

http://nkramer.smugmug.com/photos/654588490_UbzQk-XL.jpg

There's nothing wrong with plain, but on the other hand, there's nothing about this that screams, "graphic designer" to me, either. (Hope that wasn't too blunt... I've never been accused of being good at sugar-coating anything. :dunno )

If you like the elements as they are, I think it could be fine if you rearranged it a bit. Maybe something like this?:

ETA: by the way, I LOVE the font you used for your name!!

[printergirl]

There's nothing wrong with plain, but on the other hand, there's nothing about this that screams, "graphic designer" to me, either. (Hope that wasn't too blunt... I've never been accused of being good at sugar-coating anything. :dunno )

LOL. No that's fine! :D

I am hoping NOT to attract any graphic design clients, to be honest. After 20 years in the business, I have been slowly transitioning myself out of that business over the past six years or so. Maybe I should take that off all together as well? Hmm.

[CaroleHayes]

LOL. No that's fine! :D

I am hoping NOT to attract any graphic design clients, to be honest. After 20 years in the business, I have been slowly transitioning myself out of that business over the past six years or so. Maybe I should take that off all together as well? Hmm.

I would say if you don't want to do it, don't advertise it! You may still get referral customers, but at least you won't be bringing in new ones that you'd rather not have.... : )

[Hikin' Mike]

There's nothing wrong with plain, but on the other hand, there's nothing about this that screams, "graphic designer" to me, either. (Hope that wasn't too blunt... I've never been accused of being good at sugar-coating anything. :dunno )...

I was going to say the same thing, but I was in the middle of cooking dinner. :D

To the Nora:

Nothing wrong with just showcasing your photography work, but since you are a graphic designer, I would think your card would be more....interesting. I think the script font (families etc) is too small to read and I'm not sure about the blue/white colors.

[bendruckerphoto]

If you're not looking to pick of graphic design work, why not drop the graphic design piece? And if you are, make two separate business cards, or put the two different things on the the 2 sides of the business card.

[printergirl]

Okay. Back to the old drawing board. :(

I was going for plain, simple, understated. I just wanted to use the card to draw people to my website, where they could view my work, but I think I went TOO simple here. :(

The color by the way is called Pantone Violet (which actually is a dark purple), to match my website. Keep in mind it is a PMS color for print and didn't translate well to a computer screen, thus it came across with a blue look. Looking in my PMS (Pantone Matching System) swatch book however, it is the shade I am going for in print, which is what I am concerned about matching. Originally I had played around with black instead, which I may go back to as well. Not sure yet.

Anyway, back to the old drawing board (actually Illustrator), but you get my drift. Hehe.

[printergirl]

Okay, trying one more time for the weekend...LOL. I tried dropping graphic design, but then my domain doesn't make sense, since it contains both. :dunno

Thinking double sided w/ rounded edges here:

http://nkramer.smugmug.com/photos/655392835_FRyG7-L.jpg

[CaroleHayes]

Okay, trying one more time for the weekend...LOL. I tried dropping graphic design, but then my domain doesn't make sense, since it contains both. :dunno

Thinking double sided w/ rounded edges here:

http://nkramer.smugmug.com/photos/655392835_FRyG7-L.jpg

I like that better!

But I do think the domain is fine, even without the graphic design....

[BeachBill]

But I do think the domain is fine, even without the graphic design....

I agree, because you are designing via photography...

[printergirl]

Okay. I dropped the graphic design portion. Does it looked "balanced" without it. I also am putting up the black and white version. Not sure whether to go with the purple to match the website or the black and white.

http://nkramer.smugmug.com/photos/656438448_dEHDS-L.jpg

[CaroleHayes]

Okay. I dropped the graphic design portion. Does it looked "balanced" without it. I also am putting up the black and white version. Not sure whether to go with the purple to match the website or the black and white.

http://nkramer.smugmug.com/photos/656438448_dEHDS-L.jpg

I think it looks good without the graphic design part; nothing unbalanced here! : )

As for the color, I'm going to be no help at all, because I think black always looks good, but it's also good to tie things together....

[BeachBill]

Okay. I dropped the graphic design portion. Does it looked "balanced" without it. I also am putting up the black and white version. Not sure whether to go with the purple to match the website or the black and white.

Looks good. I would also suggest dropping the "email:" since you don't have labels for "phone:" or "web:"

[JaeSen]

I like the black. I also like the rounded edges and the backside is good.

What about extending the horizontal line all the way across the card and putting your name above it and "photographer" below it? I think it would give you a little more space between your contact info and help balance it out a little??

Also, I would drop the "email:" part and possibly increase the size of the email address to more closely match the other contact info. That or move it from in between the phone and web address.

Just suggestions... :D

[printergirl]

Looks good. I would also suggest dropping the "email:" since you don't have labels for "phone:" or "web:"

Nice catch. Will do. :)

[printergirl]

I like the black. I also like the rounded edges and the backside is good.

What about extending the horizontal line all the way across the card and putting your name above it and "photographer" below it? I think it would give you a little more space between your contact info and help balance it out a little??

Also, I would drop the "email:" part and possibly increase the size of the email address to more closely match the other contact info. That or move it from in between the phone and web address.

Just suggestions... :D

Like the line idea. Will give that a whirl as well.

[squiddy]

Are you ordering with rounded corners or are you cropping off the corners yourself after they are made?

[printergirl]

Are you ordering with rounded corners or are you cropping off the corners yourself after they are made?

Ordering with rounded corners. Gotprint.com will do cards with rounded corner in small or large quantities.

[printergirl]

Alrighty. Here's a version with the line extended. I'm not sure how I feel about it. Thoughts? BTW, I think I am leaning toward the black color. Clean, simple and if I change the colors on my website it won't matter much (I tend to get bored easily...LOL).

http://nkramer.smugmug.com/photos/656864001_fa5Qk-M.jpg

[Hikin' Mike]

Alrighty. Here's a version with the line extended. I'm not sure how I feel about it. Thoughts? BTW, I think I am leaning toward the black color. Clean, simple and if I change the colors on my website it won't matter much (I tend to get bored easily...LOL).



I like the black. I assume the blue border is for reference only and not printed on the card.

[pmbpro]

Hi printergirl!

LOL. No that's fine! :D

I am hoping NOT to attract any graphic design clients, to be honest. After 20 years in the business, I have been slowly transitioning myself out of that business over the past six years or so. Maybe I should take that off all together as well? Hmm.

Wow. I'm in the same boat. Self-employed 18 years in Graphic Design and Production. I agree with not indicating Graphic Design on your card if you're transitioning. I don't have *any* reference at all to design on my card (already have steady well-paying design contracts to pay the bills while I shoot). Actually, I'm more associated with the title of "photographer" now, than "designer", even among friends and acquaintances since I carry a camera everywhere! :rofl Word of mouth and a "photography only" card does wonders. I have occasionally done some photography as a "value-added service" in a pinch, for my design clients, but I don't advertise design to potential photography clients.

My card design scheme also matches my website banner. I posted my basic "draft" version nearly a year ago in this thread:

http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?p=956233&highlight=illustrator#post956233


http://www.pmbproductions.com/images/pmbimages_card_front.jpg



http://www.pmbproductions.com/images/pmbimages_card_back.jpg

[pmbpro]

Alrighty. Here's a version with the line extended. I'm not sure how I feel about it. Thoughts? BTW, I think I am leaning toward the black color. Clean, simple and if I change the colors on my website it won't matter much (I tend to get bored easily...LOL).

http://nkramer.smugmug.com/photos/656864001_fa5Qk-M.jpg

I like your "photogdesign" name and this new version of your card is much cleaner! :clap I like the black and rounded corners too. :D

Paula

[printergirl]

I like the black. I assume the blue border is for reference only and not printed on the card.

Correct. The light blue is for reference only.

[dmeiselman]

not limited to photography, but I use this as a calling card and business card.

http://meiselman.smugmug.com/photos/609840079_vrEcL-M.jpg

[printergirl]

Wow. I'm in the same boat. Self-employed 18 years in Graphic Design and Production. I agree with not indicating Graphic Design on your card if you're transitioning. I don't have *any* reference at all to design on my card (already have steady well-paying design contracts to pay the bills while I shoot). Actually, I'm more associated with the title of "photographer" now, than "designer", even among friends and acquaintances since I carry a camera everywhere! :rofl Word of mouth and a "photography only" card does wonders. I have occasionally done some photography as a "value-added service" in a pinch, for my design clients, but I don't advertise design to potential photography clients.

Hi Paula. Wow, sounds like we have a similar background. I was very involved in pre-press production as well! I am so over design work, however. I am loving photography so much better. Call it a mid-life change...I dunno. Whatever. Shooting makes me much happier than sitting behind the computer all day ... :barb

Your card is nice and clean, which is what I am drawn to. :thumb

[Erica628]

I'm just starting out with my business. I'd love to know what you think!
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The back is white, with plain black type and says:

Let me capture who you are . . .
. . . not just what you look like

along with my contact info again (I couldn't attach two files here). I opted to only get coating on one side so that I could write easily on the back if I wanted to give any special discounts or additional information.

[bendruckerphoto]

I'm just starting out with my business. I'd love to know what you think!
28577

The back is white, with plain black type and says:

Let me capture who you are . . .
. . . not just what you look like

along with my contact info again (I couldn't attach two files here). I opted to only get coating on one side so that I could write easily on the back if I wanted to give any special discounts or additional information.

This honestly does not look professional at all to me. You need to use a cleaner font than the typewriter-like one you're using. I'd recommend hiring a local graphic designer to create your logo, card, and any other materials you need, at least to start.

[Jeremy Winterberg]

I'm just starting out with my business. I'd love to know what you think!

The back is white, with plain black type and says:

Let me capture who you are . . .
. . . not just what you look like

along with my contact info again (I couldn't attach two files here). I opted to only get coating on one side so that I could write easily on the back if I wanted to give any special discounts or additional information. Although I agree with what Ben said, I have a few suggestions shy of spending several hundred dollars on a graphic designer.

In your logo, move the bottom line, I think it says photography llc or something like that... down a bit, its too close to your name. Then move the whole thing up a bit.. its cutting into the boy's head...

In the information, definitely change the font type. The font you're using does not match your logo at all. Change it to the font you used in your navigation on your website. That font is more professional looking. On your site you should change the type-writer font as well, maybe to a font like calibri or arial... something that everyone can read easily...

Also move the information to the right some, and make the website/email/phone number text a tad smaller and move them closer together. Also make the email text all the same font size, I don't like the small name then bigger url thing you have going on.

Get rid of Owner, I doubt you have 10+ photographer's working for you, they'll know its your business because of your name being the name of the business.

I made all of these comments from just looking at the card for 5 seconds... I'm going to school for photography and graphic design right now, someone with more experience could make it all for you, and make it look amazing in a day or two. So you can try my suggestions, re-post a new version to see if people like it more, or you could go hire a professional to give you a stunning card. Being in Indy, you'll have no problem finding a talented designer... I'm going to school in Marion, IN so I travel to Indy every now and then.

btw, I really like the picture of the boy and girl... great work!

[PhotosbyKW]

Sorry.

[Erica628]

Although I agree with what Ben said, I have a few suggestions shy of spending several hundred dollars on a graphic designer.

In your logo, move the bottom line, I think it says photography llc or something like that... down a bit, its too close to your name. Then move the whole thing up a bit.. its cutting into the boy's head...

In the information, definitely change the font type. The font you're using does not match your logo at all. Change it to the font you used in your navigation on your website. That font is more professional looking. On your site you should change the type-writer font as well, maybe to a font like calibri or arial... something that everyone can read easily...

Also move the information to the right some, and make the website/email/phone number text a tad smaller and move them closer together. Also make the email text all the same font size, I don't like the small name then bigger url thing you have going on.

Get rid of Owner, I doubt you have 10+ photographer's working for you, they'll know its your business because of your name being the name of the business.

I made all of these comments from just looking at the card for 5 seconds... I'm going to school for photography and graphic design right now, someone with more experience could make it all for you, and make it look amazing in a day or two. So you can try my suggestions, re-post a new version to see if people like it more, or you could go hire a professional to give you a stunning card. Being in Indy, you'll have no problem finding a talented designer... I'm going to school in Marion, IN so I travel to Indy every now and then.

btw, I really like the picture of the boy and girl... great work!

Thanks so much for your comments. They were very helpful. Thank you also for taking the time to look at my site. I'm not in a position right now to hire a graphic designer. I've been wrestling with the font issue and I keep changing it. I had the body font the same as the navigation on my site to start with, but thought it was too hard to read. I'll try the others you suggested. Thank you also for your comments on my photograph. I am going to concentrate on weddings and children, so I thought this was a good choice for my card.

[Clixphoto]

Here are my cards. I needed something cheap to pass out at sporting events. This is a 4x6 image that when prited and cut in half gives me two different cards. I had very good feedback on them and they got me alot of business this summer.

http://www.clix-photo.com/photos/666993884_fr9gp-L.jpg

Wes
www.clix-photo.com (http://www.clix-photo.com)

[CrazieCricket]

Just something I threw together. Any ideas to make it better are appreciated.

Front

http://www.ps-images.com/photos/674002127_HfT2t-M.jpg

Back

http://www.ps-images.com/photos/674002137_jrYzM-M.jpg

[Jeremy Winterberg]

Just something I threw together. Any ideas to make it better are appreciated.

Well, I would take off the URL on the front and have it on the back...
And maybe try moving the graphic on the back to the left and the info to the right, that way its not completely centered...

Thats what I would do..

[CSP]

My wife, Krystal, and I designed these 100% from scratch using Photoshop CS4. I think they turned out really nice. Not to brag, but I think they are better than some of the stock backgrounds and cards we saw on most of the sites we looked at. Then we created a similar image to use as the background for our Smug Mug site, to correlate the two together.

Brent & Krystal

www.crownstudiosphotography.com

[Gary Peterson Photography]

Here is one I use at hockey games.


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[Hikin' Mike]

Here is one I use at hockey games.



Can you read that? :dunno

[Jeremy Winterberg]

Can you read that? :dunno

it must be like a 4x6 print... cause I wouldn't be able to read that fo sho - and I have relatively good vision.

[printergirl]

Looks like a 4 X 6 postcard to me too.

[Gary Peterson Photography]

Looks like a 4 X 6 postcard to me too.

It is a 4 x 6 card...sorry...should have put the dimensions on it...

They are amazingly effective, I print 5,000 to 10,000 of them at a whack with different players on them, and they are given to people as they enter the arena. Great ROI on them.

[pgaviria]

Ok, I decided to make new cards, this time in color and with some photos in it. I find it hard to find photos I've taken that look good in small sizes, I think I usually visualize them printed big when I am taking them :D. I also want the pics in my card to be colorful, so that limits the options even more.

So I got this 3 options so far that I liked the most:

1.

http://pablogaviria.smugmug.com/Other/business-cards/BusinessCard3/700875962_UvFsp-L.jpg

2.

http://pablogaviria.smugmug.com/Other/business-cards/BusinessCard2/700875824_Jg9XZ-L.jpg

3.

http://pablogaviria.smugmug.com/Other/business-cards/BusinessCard1/700875608_okVi8-L.jpg

I kinda like the one with the cow the most because the cow is a bigger object than the bridge or the pier, but I'm not sure. It's a cow lol. I think it's a cool pic but I don't know how divergent i can be about these things before becoming unprofessional. The bridge on the other hand is a local landmark and people could feel familiar about it and be more inclined to use my services.

Thoughts?

[squiddy]

I personally like the cow only for the green color that contrasts with the other 2 photos. When i was scrolling though these i noticed the cow stuck out more than the other two.

You have blue on the right so the water image blends in with that and you have a darker reddish/orangeish tone to the image on the right which blends with the night bridge photo.

Do you have anything else with a green landscape, mountain, etc?

[pgaviria]

I couldn't find any in the photos i have in my "finished" folder. I'd have to go back to my archive and look, but I can't imagine I have green landscapes with objects that are large in the frame. I'm gonna look for something else green, thanks for the suggestion!

[luckystar8]

great idea!!! :lust

[SCP]

It's been about a year and I thought it would be nice to maybe bring something a little simple, yet classy and elegant to my wallet.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a104/OTheMessiahO/scpbizcardemboss.jpg

I have been toying with the idea of adding my phone number, but I hardly answer the phone.. knowing my luck I will be in the ring and Britney Spears will start bellowing out about being on the radar and I will cause a mass collision of freaked out horses.

[Intella]

I use overnight prints and am really pleased with the quality.

I have a question about font size
What is the absolute smallest size you would go and still have it legible?
I'm a fan of simple fonts on cards, my fav is myriad pro

Business cards in some aspects are huge, and in others... so very small

I am designing one for client right now, actually I wonder if anyone would be interested in seeing and critiquing me on it. Just message me, and I'll send you the link.

Thanks

[printergirl]

I use overnight prints and am really pleased with the quality.

I have a question about font size
What is the absolute smallest size you would go and still have it legible?
I'm a fan of simple fonts on cards, my fav is myriad pro

Business cards in some aspects are huge, and in others... so very small

I am designing one for client right now, actually I wonder if anyone would be interested in seeing and critiquing me on it. Just message me, and I'll send you the link.

Thanks

I worked in the printing industry for 20 years. It will vary from font to font, but rule of thumb for most is never less than 7 points, for legibility, 8 point recommended.

[pmbpro]

I agree with printergirl (as I've been in the industry that long too! We be old-timers! :rofl)

My experience has been that serif fonts (e.g. Times) tend to appear smaller than Sans-Serif fonts (e.g. Arial) when you choose the same font size. I've therefore, on occasion on small pieces, gone with 8pt Serif and no less, while I can get away with 7pt. with Sans Serif. I usually stick with 8pt for the most part though.

Paula

[acevesf]

critique please! I'm still in the developing stages, glad I found this thread!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/e46325ci/card1stdraft.jpg

[lisasolonynko]

Hi all,

I had previously posted a card design that featured a lovely yellow flower. Most agreed that it looked bright and cheerful. I went ahead and ordered, but was disappointed. Being able to get consistent colour was a real issue. I can see this will be an even bigger issue if I have to change printers down the road. I think that I should just go with b/w. I have been messing around with some different logos and am thinking of going with something like this...

I am really on the fence about whether to put an image on the front.

What do you think? I really appreciate the feedback.

Lisa

http://www.lisasolonynko.com/photos/792639908_y3e2C-L.jpg

[Hikin' Mike]

critique please! I'm still in the developing stages, glad I found this thread!

I don't care for the font for the contact info and lose the all caps too....very hard to read.

Get a 'real' e-mail address instead of a gmail account, something like info@24kphotos.com

[denisegoldberg]

critique please! I'm still in the developing stages
Sorry to be blunt, but... your card looks like you just threw text at it. If I was looking for a photographer I wouldn't consider someone who handed me a card that looks like this. Your business card may be the first impression that someone has of your business. Step back, decide how you want it to represent your business, and design a look.

--- Denise

[bendruckerphoto]

critique please! I'm still in the developing stages, glad I found this thread!

You probably should hire a designer for your logo and your business cards. There are sites where you can find freelancers who would do both for less than $100 if you're strapped for cash. But a logo and a business card is not something to save money on. What you've posted does not reflect well on your skill.

[acevesf]

thanks guys admitedly that was thrown together at 3am one night lol!!

here's one I think I've settled on, now the question is name or no name?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/e46325ci/withname.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/e46325ci/buscardrough.jpg

[W.W. Webster]

thanks guys admitedly that was thrown together at 3am one night lol!!
An obvious question asked here often - why have your own domain name but an e-mail address at Gmail (or at any other free service, for that matter)? It looks seriously cheap.

[acevesf]

An obvious question asked here often - why have your own domain name but an e-mail address at Gmail (or at any other free service, for that matter)? It looks seriously cheap.

Great question, I've seen it posed to other before as well. But honestly I prefer the ease and usability of gmail. I have a godaddy account with e-mail but yuck!

[W.W. Webster]

I prefer the ease and usability of gmail. I have a godaddy account with e-mail but yuck!Is this about what's 'easy' for you, or about projecting professional image? "Yuck" is what your potential clients will say!

[CaroleHayes]

Is this about what's easy for you, or about projecting professional image? "Yuck" is what your potential clients will say!

AGREED! :clap

[acevesf]

I can see your point, I'll look into getting it changed. Now do you prefer the card without the name or with the name? And should I keep the photographer or lose photographer.

[W.W. Webster]

I can see your point, I'll look into getting it changed. Now do you prefer the card without the name or with the name? And should I keep the photographer or lose photographer.With name, but without 'photographer'. It's just unnecessary verbiage. No one will mistake you for a carpenter. :D

[Dedalus77]

Great question, I've seen it posed to other before as well. But honestly I prefer the ease and usability of gmail. I have a godaddy account with e-mail but yuck!

You can easily set up gmail to read and reply to your godaddy mail. From your customer's perspective they will never know you are using gmail. It takes about 2 minutes to set up in gmail and godaddy has a great tutorial on how to do it.

[Dedalus77]

Here's my current card, would love to get your takes on it. Please keep in mind that I am primarily an art photographer rather than portrait or event photographer although I will occasionally do an event for a friend.

29825

[CaroleHayes]

Here's my current card, would love to get your takes on it. Please keep in mind that I am primarily an art photographer rather than portrait or event photographer although I will occasionally do an event for a friend.

29825

I was going to ask why you didn't have any contact info on it, but then I finally spotted it down at the bottom. It's kind of hard to read....

Nice pic, though!

[acevesf]

With name, but without 'photographer'. It's just unnecessary verbiage. No one will mistake you for a carpenter. :D

haha makes sense! Thanks man

[Hikin' Mike]

Here's my current card, would love to get your takes on it. Please keep in mind that I am primarily an art photographer rather than portrait or event photographer although I will occasionally do an event for a friend.

I too only do fine art. Nice picture, but I'm not a fan of photos on a business card. I also can hardly read the text.

[bendruckerphoto]

Great question, I've seen it posed to other before as well. But honestly I prefer the ease and usability of gmail. I have a godaddy account with e-mail but yuck!

Go ahead and check out Google Apps (for your domain). The standard edition is free. You basically make some changes in your DNS settings at GoDaddy to redirect your mail to GMail. You'll have the same GMail interface you know and love but with a custom email address. You'll manage everything via the Google control panel in an account separate from your regular GMail account. You could always also forward your GoDaddy email address to your current GMail account, but that means your responses would reveal your real email address.

http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/group/index.html

[Dedalus77]

I too only do fine art. Nice picture, but I'm not a fan of photos on a business card. I also can hardly read the text.

I'm curious as to why you don't like photos on a business card. As for the text, that's easy to fix.

[Hikin' Mike]

I'm curious as to why you don't like photos on a business card. As for the text, that's easy to fix.

No reason other than I prefer a cleaner look. Maybe I'm old school or just old, I don't know. :dunno

[W.W. Webster]

Let me know what you think of this business card.
You might be able to see it, but we can't! :nono

[Mountainwoman]

I know. I deleted the message because I can't seem to get the business card down to 146 kb. Even at 72 dpi, it's still showing its 581 kb. Never had this problem with photos.

[W.W. Webster]

I know. I deleted the message because I can't seem to get the business card down to 146 kb. Even at 72 dpi, it's still showing its 581 kb. Never had this problem with photos.Forget the dpi - knock the 'quality' back!

[W.W. Webster]

Figured it out... here is the front.Far too small! :deal

[dangin]

it's been a while since i've updated my card; this new one is going to the presses soon:

http://photos.dangin.com/Other/cards/DGP2/803050510_6bVTV-S.jpg (http://www.dangin.com)

[printergirl]

it's been a while since i've updated my card; this new one is going to the presses soon:



Dan, your card is beautiful. I love the look and especially the colors. Very nice! :clap

~ Nora

[Mountainwoman]

Trying this again, with slightly larger sized card. This is the front of the card. I'll post the back side if this one is readable. Let me know if you can see if ok. Thanks, Karen

[Hikin' Mike]

Trying this again, with slightly larger sized card. This is the front of the card. I'll post the back side if this one is readable. Let me know if you can see if ok. Thanks, Karen

Me personally, I don't like the script font for your website. Use the same font for your e-mail. I would ditch the name 'e-mail- too.

[Mountainwoman]

Ok, thanks for the suggestions. Here's the backside.

[Hikin' Mike]

Ok, thanks for the suggestions. Here's the backside.

Looks like that is full-size (2" x 3.5") and I can't read your name. EDIT: I guess it's not text they're "squirley". Tag line is cheesy too. But maybe it's just me.

[DavidTO]

I know. I deleted the message because I can't seem to get the business card down to 146 kb. Even at 72 dpi, it's still showing its 581 kb. Never had this problem with photos.


You're much better embedding your images than attaching them. Check the link in my signature for more info on posting pics. :thumb

[Mountainwoman]

When I downloaded my card, I did use the manage attachments section and followed those sizing instructions. I don't have smugmug, flicker or any of those (just my own website).

Thanks, Karen

[affdigphotos]

Great question, I've seen it posed to other before as well. But honestly I prefer the ease and usability of gmail. I have a godaddy account with e-mail but yuck!

You can use google apps to link your domain name to a gmail interface. The best of both worlds!

http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/group/index.html

[affdigphotos]

front:

http://img.skitch.com/20100314-fceg2abc7marujtuy9g6duhmp.jpg

back:

http://img.skitch.com/20100314-j2iyw96yipejbuhpu1af74iuix.jpg

Just ordered this off VistaPrint... this is a screenshot of the preview page from there (original photoshop file is saved on another computer so...)

My husband thinks the photos will be too small when printed. But he didn't like our old cards either...

front:

http://img.skitch.com/20100314-k1f7ruy6ij16t1jr8que2rsruq.jpg

back:

http://img.skitch.com/20100314-bwwh7kw7jsdk5e8e99ufcrwd51.jpg

[Kyle D]

I'm finally getting around to trying to order some business cards and I would like some critiques/opinions on them.

1.) Rose image positioned on "safe lines".
http://www.kyledphoto.com/photos/809871612_pQEUy-M.jpg

2.) Rose image full bleed position.
http://www.kyledphoto.com/photos/809894040_HD2sz-M.jpg

3.) Rose image full bleed with address/email bar moved.
http://www.kyledphoto.com/photos/809896243_gNrid-M.jpg

4.) No Image.
http://www.kyledphoto.com/photos/809871753_D8nXb-M.jpg

I was thinking of having these printed at Vistaprint.ca and the images you see above are the full bleed size. Now, image #1 is lined up with the safe lines in the vistaprint template which means when it gets printed and trimmed there will be a black border but it will only be visible in the corner where the vase is. Will that look ok? Or should I try and put the image to the trim line?

Also, the two cards that have the images positioned at the full bleed part will have some of the vase and possibly some part(s) of the flower cut off. I'm not entirely sure how I feel about that but also I'm not sure how I feel about the black border that would be there if I went with card #1.

[DsrtVW]

I just had these made up to replace my other business card that includes my printing and promotional products business. Wanted one for just photography.
http://kadvantage.smugmug.com/Business/My-Smug-Mug/Photographyedt/810530144_6cUWx-S.jpg

back
http://kadvantage.smugmug.com/Business/My-Smug-Mug/Photoback/810530121_Pmvr6-S.jpg

[denisegoldberg]

I just had these made up to replace my other business card that includes my printing and promotional products business. Wanted one for just photography.
I'm not sure what you are trying to get across here. The image on the front of your card seems unrelated to nature / weddings / portraits / events photography.

And while I like the quote on the back, the images on the back of the card are unrelated to the message. I'd prefer no image on the back.

In addition, I'm a bit surprised that you don't have a custom URL and an email address that matches your domain.

--- Denise

[denisegoldberg]

I'm finally getting around to trying to order some business cards and I would like some critiques/opinions on them.
The rose image pulls my eye away from the text on your card, and it seems to me that it is unrelated to your business. Of the 4 cards shown, I'd go with the no image card. I think I would prefer the text to one side or the other as opposed to centered.

--- Denise

[Kyle D]

The rose image pulls my eye away from the text on your card, and it seems to me that it is unrelated to your business. Of the 4 cards shown, I'd go with the no image card. I think I would prefer the text to one side or the other as opposed to centered.

--- Denise

Thanks for that. I guess it is back to the drawing board with these.

[bendruckerphoto]

http://img.skitch.com/20100314-bwwh7kw7jsdk5e8e99ufcrwd51.jpg

Sorry to say this, but your brand name does not convey quality. By labeling it "Affordable Digital" Photography, it really seems cheap and commoditized. If this is your business name, I'd try to minimize the "affordable" part.

[denisegoldberg]

back:

http://img.skitch.com/20100314-j2iyw96yipejbuhpu1af74iuix.jpg



Are you trying to promote your business or SmugMug's?

While it's nice to point folks at smug, I doubt that the Powered by SmugMug pro logo means anything to your customers and prospects. I would recommend removing the smug logo from your card.

--- Denise

[Hikin' Mike]

Are you trying to promote your business or SmugMug's?

While it's nice to point folks at smug, I doubt that the Powered by SmugMug pro logo means anything to your customers and prospects. I would recommend removing the smug logo from your card.

--- Denise

+1.

[affdigphotos]

Sorry to say this, but your brand name does not convey quality. By labeling it "Affordable Digital" Photography, it really seems cheap and commoditized. If this is your business name, I'd try to minimize the "affordable" part.

I agree. :thumb This was our OLD business name - old business cards, as I stated in my post. The new business name/url was the two top cards, also in my sig.

[rgphoto]

What do you guys think of mine? I want to get some feedback before I print them.

Card Front:
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr134/rhe30/RGPBusinessCardFront.jpg

Card Back:
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr134/rhe30/RGPBusinessCardBack.jpg

[DsrtVW]

What do you guys think of mine? I want to get some feedback before I print them.

Card Front:
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr134/rhe30/RGPBusinessCardFront.jpg

Card Back:
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr134/rhe30/RGPBusinessCardBack.jpg

I know they are larger than normal print but the pixelation on the graphic is not good, make sure it does not show at business card size. More contact info for when people do not have access to computer or web.

[Hikin' Mike]

What do you guys think of mine? I want to get some feedback before I print them.

Card Front:


Card Back:


The aperture blades look cheesy and way over-used. The logo looks like you designed it in Photoshop and not Illustrator. The font you used is hard to read. The back of the card is too busy for my tastes. Sorry.

[rgphoto]

Thanks for the feedback guys! I was a little worried about the pixelation of the aperture blades. I will make some changes and repost.

[rgphoto]

K, I made a few changes to both the front and back. I'm happy with the back, but I feel the front is lacking a little. Any suggestions/criticisms?

Front:
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr134/rhe30/RGPBusinessCardFront-1.jpg

Back:
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr134/rhe30/RGPBusinessCardBack-1.jpg

[thoth]

I would like to get everyone's opinion of my first card draft. This is the first card I've designed and I wanted to keep it very simple. It certainly is that but is it too simple?

Thanks in advance!

Front:
http://winegar.smugmug.com/photos/811473333_63kfU-O.jpg

Back:
http://winegar.smugmug.com/photos/811483928_BNcCM-O.jpg


Edit: added the missing W!

[W.W. Webster]

I would like to get everyone's opinion of my first card draft.Missing a 'dub'! :D

BTW, what font is that on the front side?

[thoth]

Missing a 'dub'! :D

BTW, what font is that on the front side?
crap! :rofl

I just retyped it before uploading and missed that completely. It's Myriad Pro Light Semibold used throughout. The front was done in Illustrator, was cut out and given a drop shadow for a little depth.

[W.W. Webster]

Thanks!

[BeachBill]

I would like to get everyone's opinion of my first card draft. This is the first card I've designed and I wanted to keep it very simple. It certainly is that but is it too simple?

I really like the design, but I have no idea what you do based on the card. Yes, it probably is just a bit TOO simple. I would suggest listing what you specialize in, so you don't leave everyone guessing.

[ClubFlys]

The design I have been using for the past year or so..

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/7289/proofl.th.png (http://img683.imageshack.us/i/proofl.png/)

And these are the cards I use for my normal photography clients.. I have two designs to give to specific demographics.

http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/6968/lasherphoto20080907roun.th.jpg (http://img682.imageshack.us/i/lasherphoto20080907roun.jpg/) http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/6968/lasherphoto20080907roun.th.jpg (http://img519.imageshack.us/i/lasherphoto20080907roun.jpg/)

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/6060/lasherphoto20090331roun.th.png (http://img705.imageshack.us/i/lasherphoto20090331roun.png/)

[thoth]

I really like the design, but I have no idea what you do based on the card. Yes, it probably is just a bit TOO simple. I would suggest listing what you specialize in, so you don't leave everyone guessing.
Thank you, Bill. I do get caught up on vague sometimes. :thumb

[deb22]

O.K. I have read all these pages and almost stopped on pg 7 and I get to the end here and same guy w.w. is also at the end, well I am posting my card anyway close your eyes if you are in new zealand. I love the very pro cards and the not so pro cards everyone has showed. My card is done this way for many reasons and from the repeat business it works for me. I am wondering is there more people out there with strange cards? Feel free to make comments on mine as I may change it with a valid reason.http://www.coloralberta.com/photos/815168449_aTRbf-M.jpg (http://www.coloralberta.com/Other/My-Smug-Mug/11389226_HS2cK#815168449_aTRbf-A-LB)

[Jeremy Winterberg]

Deb, one thing that really bothers me with your card is the images of the birds. They're not all the same size, and in the bottom corner, they do not align.

The font bothers me, the color of the font bothers me, and even the pictures bother me ... but at least have the images aligned.

If this works for you, great! I would just suggest working on the alignment of the images.

Jeremy

[deb22]

Deb, one thing that really bothers me with your card is the images of the birds. They're not all the same size, and in the bottom corner, they do not align.

The font bothers me, the color of the font bothers me, and even the pictures bother me ... but at least have the images aligned.

If this works for you, great! I would just suggest working on the alignment of the images.

Jeremy Thanks for the input Jeremy, I know that things don't line up but it really only bothers the pro's not everyday people they could care less.As for the font color etc It is what people remember when ordering another in the series, they don't need a website[I only put one in 45 days ago for organizing etc.] they just say send me the bluebird etc because they have a card. If I were to do weddings people,sport, almost anything else I would of course have to show some professionalism but my market does not require nor demand something that I am not able to do nor want to do. I will when I learn how to align do that because it would look better to me too,but it may take me a while to learn as i don't have ps,cs, or a programe just got my 1st computer this year.But I think you will have this color burnt into your brain for a while driving you crazy,and you will tell at least one other person about this horrific card you saw and well ,word of mouth good or bad is advertising and at least one kid will squeal with glee if mommy or daddy buy them a BRIGHT BIRDIE for their room, I do the standard good shots to but I don't advertise those I sell them privately.Most pros don't get this type of advertising at all but I think many [not all] beginners get so carried away with over thinking things a little to much sometimes. IF YOU LEARN YOUR TARGET MARKET DO WHAT WORKS FOR THAT AND LIVE A LITTLE. :barb

[VayCayMom]

I have eight cards, because I couldn't make up my mind. :rofl

It works out though, because different people like different ones, and they're all being picked up at one point or another.... : )


Hmmmm I kinda like that idea! Corner the market!

[bendruckerphoto]

Thanks for the input Jeremy, I know that things don't line up but it really only bothers the pro's not everyday people they could care less.As for the font color etc It is what people remember when ordering another in the series, they don't need a website[I only put one in 45 days ago for organizing etc.] they just say send me the bluebird etc because they have a card. If I were to do weddings people,sport, almost anything else I would of course have to show some professionalism but my market does not require nor demand something that I am not able to do nor want to do. I will when I learn how to align do that because it would look better to me too,but it may take me a while to learn as i don't have ps,cs, or a programe just got my 1st computer this year.But I think you will have this color burnt into your brain for a while driving you crazy,and you will tell at least one other person about this horrific card you saw and well ,word of mouth good or bad is advertising and at least one kid will squeal with glee if mommy or daddy buy them a BRIGHT BIRDIE for their room, I do the standard good shots to but I don't advertise those I sell them privately.Most pros don't get this type of advertising at all but I think many [not all] beginners get so carried away with over thinking things a little to much sometimes. IF YOU LEARN YOUR TARGET MARKET DO WHAT WORKS FOR THAT AND LIVE A LITTLE. :barb

I'm not so sure I follow this logic. Given the small size of the photos, the dissonant design is probably what will be remembered. Why don't you try a double-sided card? Make one side a solid color background with your name, number, and website in a more pleasing font. On the other side, put pictures. Put 4 pictures and make them take up the entire back side.

[rgphoto]

I made a few changes to my card. What do you guys think?

Front:
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr134/rhe30/RGPBusinessCardFront-1.jpg

Back:
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr134/rhe30/RGPBusinessCardBack-1.jpg

[deb22]

I'm not so sure I follow this logic. Given the small size of the photos, the dissonant design is probably what will be remembered. Why don't you try a double-sided card? Make one side a solid color background with your name, number, and website in a more pleasing font. On the other side, put pictures. Put 4 pictures and make them take up the entire back side. Ben, You don't follow the logic because you and Jeremy assume that this card is my only card, My whole point is know your market- you are a pro people photographer and MUST show quality on your card.This card is for parents with kids and kids can't read a quality font and don't care if things don't match exactly,They also don't turn the card over or see anything other than the color and the bright birds. I said I had good reason for doing it this way yet no one asked what they were,I find that funny really as I think you are trying to help but looking only through your own eyes and perspectives rather than wondering why I use this and to whom am i marketing etc. We all seem to get a little carried away sometime's with perfection and it is not always needed, not in my type of art for obvious reasons. P.S. I have given a choice to clients just to see which they pic, the standard or this and a good majority pick this one,mostly because they only want a contact # and don't care like we think they do. Think like you did when you were a kid ,most of us bought mom a charm for her bracelet on her birthday, mothers day, christmas etc we buy the same thing if we think she loves it, this series is just like that when mom likes birds and dad buys one for 'Johnny' to give her then mothers day comes and now he wants to give her a yellow bird etc. You get the idea,this scenario works in many different ways from kid to parent or parent for child. I do the regular good shots as stated above but these outsell anything I do by a large majority. Hope this clears up things for people and really unless you are HAVING to show your skill on your card relax and have some fun once in a while.:barb

[Jeremy Winterberg]

Deb, I think you misunderstand us.

First off, I dont put down other photographers because thats simply bad business. Other photographers are a main source for referrals. Even though you're in a different field of photography, you could still be a referral someday.

Why would you post your card here if you did not want advice to improve it? Our simple design suggestions are the basic guidelines for making anything pleasing to the eye. I seriously doubt you're handing these cards to the children. You're giving them to the parents, and what do they need to know? How to contact you, and where to view more of your work.

Some major things to keep in mind when designing anything is to keep everything consistant. Your business cards, need to match the look of your website. Even though you're not a pro, you need to be professional. Heck, I'm not even a pro, but all of my marketing materials, business cards, and my website match each other. I've received many comments about how professional I am, and I do believe that having a consistant brand identity has helped out greatly.

You said you don't have an editing program? Can I ask how you designed the cards in the first place if you do not have the software? When designing anything you should be using either Adobe Illustrator or InDesign, Photoshop should be avoided if at all possible. And there are many FREE tools out there you can use till you can afford the adobe versions. Inkscape (http://www.inkscape.org/) is similar to Illustrator, and GIMP (http://www.gimp.org/) is similar to Photoshop.

You said you have another card? Can we see it?

HTH,
Jeremy

[deb22]

Deb, I think you misunderstand us.

First off, I dont put down other photographers because thats simply bad business. Other photographers are a main source for referrals. Even though you're in a different field of photography, you could still be a referral someday.

Why would you post your card here if you did not want advice to improve it? Our simple design suggestions are the basic guidelines for making anything pleasing to the eye. I seriously doubt you're handing these cards to the children. You're giving them to the parents, and what do they need to know? How to contact you, and where to view more of your work.

Some major things to keep in mind when designing anything is to keep everything consistant. Your business cards, need to match the look of your website. Even though you're not a pro, you need to be professional. Heck, I'm not even a pro, but all of my marketing materials, business cards, and my website match each other. I've received many comments about how professional I am, and I do believe that having a consistant brand identity has helped out greatly.

You said you don't have an editing program? Can I ask how you designed the cards in the first place if you do not have the software? When designing anything you should be using either Adobe Illustrator or InDesign, Photoshop should be avoided if at all possible. And there are many FREE tools out there you can use till you can afford the adobe versions. Inkscape (http://www.inkscape.org/) is similar to Illustrator, and GIMP (http://www.gimp.org/) is similar to Photoshop.

You said you have another card? Can we see it?

HTH,
Jeremy Jeremy I posted because I read every single 101 pages of this thread and as stated in my very first line you would see I posted this because of the idiot who smashed eveyone on this site thats why I said what i did in the first part of my post. Again I find it amazing that you would call me a liar with regards to my card and then say you are trying to HELP!! What is wrong with you and your back handed advice. YES I DO HAND THESE OUT TO CHILDREN AND ONLY CHILDREN -I DO FREE SEMINARS AT THE LARGE SPCA'S AND SCHOOLS AND NO PARENTS ARE THERE ,IT IS PART OF THEIR EDUCATION PROGRAMME TO INTRODUCE THE LOCAL CHILDREN TO THE WILDLIFE IN THE AREA AND WHAT BETTER WAY IS THERE TO KEEP THE INTEREST OF LARGE GROUPS OF YOUNG KIDS THAN TO HAVE MEGA COLOR. KNOW YOUR MARKET .What I don't understand is why you would want to see my other card if you don't believe what i'm saying anyway,that makes no sense. And NO I do not have photoshop or anything like it I paint some background with what windows provide and take some very close shots in the wild never even in my backyard. I followed those snowys for 6 months to get that close and sometimes I even use a kodak easyshare and shoot at high noon. Why would you want to impose the same rules of profestioalism and consistancy to everyone how boring would that be? Maybe I sell out at shows because I am sooo different, My brother happens to be a major computer whiz and I used his computer to put my pics on a blank card no design there. Just dragged the pics over and print, very unprofesstional but who cares. Jeremy I love a good discussion so don't think I am angry I'm not at all, I just wish you could see other peoples point of view and read their post correctly and if you don't understand or believe them why comment? I will respond if you wish to comment but lets end this right here and keep it light hearted life is to short to worry over someone elses body of work anyway. SERIOUSLY HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND.:D

[rgphoto]

Hey Deb, mind if I thow in some input?

I completely get where you're coming from about your card. Kids react better to bright colors and col pictures. It makes them more likely to put it in their pocket instead of folding it into a paper airplane. However, when they come hme and hand that card to their parents, the parents perceive it differently, and unfortunately may perceive it as unprofessional.

What if you made a card for both the parents and the kids. One side could have all the pictures you wanted on it, and this is he side you would show to the kids when you hand it to gem. The other side can be a clean cut card with all the necessary information needed.

Just a thought.

-ron

[thoth]

Jeremy I posted because I read every single 101 pages of this thread and as stated in my very first line you would see I posted this because of the idiot who smashed eveyone on this site thats why I said what i did in the first part of my post. Again I find it amazing that you would call me a liar with regards to my card and then say you are trying to HELP!! What is wrong with you and your back handed advice. YES I DO HAND THESE OUT TO CHILDREN AND ONLY CHILDREN -I DO FREE SEMINARS AT THE LARGE SPCA'S AND SCHOOLS AND NO PARENTS ARE THERE ,IT IS PART OF THEIR EDUCATION PROGRAMME TO INTRODUCE THE LOCAL CHILDREN TO THE WILDLIFE IN THE AREA AND WHAT BETTER WAY IS THERE TO KEEP THE INTEREST OF LARGE GROUPS OF YOUNG KIDS THAN TO HAVE MEGA COLOR. KNOW YOUR MARKET .What I don't understand is why you would want to see my other card if you don't believe what i'm saying anyway,that makes no sense. And NO I do not have photoshop or anything like it I paint some background with what windows provide and take some very close shots in the wild never even in my backyard. I followed those snowys for 6 months to get that close and sometimes I even use a kodak easyshare and shoot at high noon. Why would you want to impose the same rules of profestioalism and consistancy to everyone how boring would that be? Maybe I sell out at shows because I am sooo different, My brother happens to be a major computer whiz and I used his computer to put my pics on a blank card no design there. Just dragged the pics over and print, very unprofesstional but who cares. Jeremy I love a good discussion so don't think I am angry I'm not at all, I just wish you could see other peoples point of view and read their post correctly and if you don't understand or believe them why comment? I will respond if you wish to comment but lets end this right here and keep it light hearted life is to short to worry over someone elses body of work anyway. SERIOUSLY HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND.:D
I don't follow your logic at all, Deb. You're saying that the quality of your representation doesn't matter because it's colorful and you're giving it to kids? Really? And this is effective in the same way those red and yellow flashing WARNING! banners on websites are great marketing tools for a quality professional? No way.

There is nothing wrong with color. Put as much color as you want anywhere you want to attract whatever customers you want. But, slapping some crooked photos onto a card with multi-colored clashing text does not sell your business, guaranteed. If you are selling a lot of work you're doing it in spite of this card -- not because of it. Even kids recognize quality.

[deb22]

[quote=rgphoto]Hey Deb, mind if I thow in some input?

I completely get where you're coming from about your card. Kids react better to bright colors and col pictures. It makes them more likely to put it in their pocket instead of folding it into a paper airplane. However, when they come hme and hand that card to their parents, the parents perceive it differently, and unfortunately may perceive it as unprofessional.

What if you made a card for both the parents and the kids. One side could have all the pictures you wanted on it, and this is he side you would show to the kids when you hand it to gem. The other side can be a clean cut card with all the necessary information needed.

Ron I completely understand where every one is coming from and If I were needing or wanting more business I would probably go to more extreams to achieve that. As it is, my main aim is just education and I enjoy it and so do the kids. Most of my calls are from kids who are saving their allowance to buy a pic for their room. I also am in some prominant places in the big city and I am being 100% honest with all of you when I say I have never had a complaint or even a question about my 2 business cards. If people want the product they buy it if not they don't. I know looking at my work confuses the pros but there are a lot of people in the world and we all like different things for different reasons,and My odd work[yes I call it odd because it is so different] appeals to some and not others but it does not bother me. I also find it important to do the best I can without hiring out just to be an example to other disabled artists. My site says I only have partial use of my left hand because I don't want my clients to know I don't actually have a right side either. No one can see this because I hide it pretty well but at the same time if I am speaking with disabled people they are amazed at being able to photograph anything without arms.So it is a fine line with me as to look to professional on even a business card that I did not create gives the impression to others that I could not have done the photos either,so I do what I can even if it does not meet everyone's standards but I am o.k with that for now. I read all these forums to gain info for the future if I decide to want to go further eventually and It is always good to collect as much info as possible and use what you can and throw away what you don't need. Ron your post was instructive without being rude which is great, it is often the opposite on some posts and I always try to say the same thing online as I would to the persons face and unfortunaltley not everyone thinks that way. When you post a helpful critique you make a much better impression to all who read it and I think that is what helps further your business as I would check out your site now and I have a lot of friends who could be referred if they require your style. I would never send anyone to some of the others no matter how good their work was and that is what people who post should think about.Your comments are also your business card to a whole lot more people than you think!!!! THANKS RON AND HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND!:thumb

[Jeremy Winterberg]

Deb, I was not trying to be rude at all. I gave my opinion on what could be done to improve your card in the future. Like you said, take what you can use, and throw away the rest.

Just because you're not a pro doesn't mean its alright to be unprofessional. I have empathy for you because of your disability, but that does not exclude you from having to be professional in your actions and words.

Also, my branding advice is not boring and cookie-cutter. It's smart. Your branding needs to be unique compared to others, but it must be similar in everything your clients see. That includes children. You can use colors all you want. I finally re-branded my business a couple of months ago. Since then I've had five people contact me about shooting their wedding. That's a lot for me. Before, people would never contact me, most likely because my website and business card did not look professional - and they did not match.

I was not calling you a liar, just saying that bottom line, the children are not the ones with the money. It may be their "allowance" but, they still have to ask mom and dad if they can spend it on your work. And they have to ask if they can use the telephone to call you. (If they don't, then their parents need to work on that! ha) When I was growing up I always had to ask my parents if I could spend "my" money.

If you could not tell that my post was constructive criticism, I'm sorry. But that is what every post I have made has been.

A little internet etiquette lesson. ALL CAPS MEANS YOU'RE YELLING. Avoid that if you want your readers to think you're just trying to have a calm conversation.

And I agree with you 100% that what you say to others is like a business card. I do not regret saying a single word I have, and I know I will not lose business because of it.

Jeremy

[deb22]

Jerremy. I don't exactly know which posts of mine you are reading, I did not say some of things you are saying I said but no matter you should really reread your comments and you will see you were saying I was lying, It is stated in an insulting way but that does not mean it was not stated. Well it's been an interesting conversation anyway and I am glad to hear that your business has increased due to branding. I however as stated do not want more business at this time and will never feel the need to make anything match no matter what some pros feel. As I have said it has never been an issue with my customers and really that is all of our bottom lines.I hope you will not comment again as I won't reply to this thread anymore, not because I am angry we just reached a stalemate and all is said and done.:wink

[bendruckerphoto]

I think it's best we move on here. People have offered constructive criticism and there has been no progress. It's probably best to not post a business card unless you're willing to respect other people's opinions.

[W.W. Webster]

It's probably best to not post a business card unless you're willing to respect other peoples' opinions.:thumb