iPhone Ca-raziness!

[Andy]

http://www.paloaltodailynews.com/article/2007-6-29-pa-iphone

"Don MacAskill, CEO and "Chief Geek" (actual title) of the photo sharing Web site Smugmug had set up camp with four of his co-workers in the early afternoon.

"Our strategy was to get here early and buy as many as they'll let us," he said. He plans to buy the iPhones for all 26 of his employees.

MacAskill said a generator would soon arrive to supply power for the group's impromptu sidewalk office.

"Just in case the shoe store wants their power back," he said, indicating the line of power cords tracing back to Footwear, Etc.

"We're hoping to ship a new product tonight," he said. "

Baldy here with Bill Atkinson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Atkinson):

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/167733115-L.jpg

More here (http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/3075332#167731442)

[nikos]

"Our strategy was to get here early and buy as many as they'll let us," he said. He plans to buy the iPhones for all 26 of his employees.


Are you one of those lucky 26?

[Rhuarc]

I think he forgot to zeros after the 26. THat should have read "all 2600 of our regular DGrinners" :D

[nikos]

I think he forgot to zeros after the 26. THat should have read "all 2600 of our regular DGrinners" :D

I believe that there's a 2 per person purchase limit so if there are 4 peeps there from DGrin, that'll equal 18 disappointed employees :huh

[Terrence]

That is some serious commitment. Taking care of us from a sidewalk sit-in for iPhones! Thanks guys.

[David_S85]

If i were to get an iPhone, could i plug it iNto my iPC?

[gus]

I just noticed baldys shirt :lol3

[Skippy]

I just noticed baldys shirt :lol3


Makes a body look good don't it Gus :rofl .... Skippy :rolleyes
.

[Andy]

1) setup - instant and easy. It uses iTunes (you gotta update iTunes)...

2) I ported my # from T*Mobile - that was all driven through iTunes - quick and simple, took just a few minutes online.

3) The phone was activated immediately.

4) The iPhone finds your wifi - easy and simple

5) Browsing, email, maps all that jazz - simple and effecient.

6) Typing - still new at it - probably need to get used to it but it appears to be OK

7) it's freaking cool!!!!!!!

[Andy]

Some more news stories:

http://blogs.business2.com/thirdscreen/2007/06/want-free-pr-he.html

http://www.cnbc.com/id/19506195
(the Zooomr group - wearing Smuggy hats :lol3 )

http://money.cnn.com/2007/06/29/technology/iphone/?postversion=2007062915

http://origin.mercurynews.com/ci_6261313

[thebigsky]

I see Anandtech have already pulled one apart, sacrilege.

Warning, you might find these images distressing:-

iPhone disassembly (http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=3026)

Charlie

[wxwax]

Macworld (http://iphone.macworld.com/2007/06/obvious_missing_features.php)

[ShepsMom]

Verizon doesn't offer IPhones, i wouldn't mind having one, but then again, i'm an Apple nut, keep me away!!!!:barb

[peestandingup]

Macworld (http://iphone.macworld.com/2007/06/obvious_missing_features.php)
Yup, they also forgot about no tethering to a laptop, no bluetooth file transfers, no folder structure/finder, no unlocking to work with ANY other sim cards besides AT&Ts, & on & on. All smartphones can do these things & are considered "the basics". Heck, even most low end phones can do these things plus what else was mentioned.

Its a great phone, but that AT&T deal crippled the hell outta it. No way, not for $600 anyway. Why they didnt just sell it only at the Apple Stores unlocked & had a worldwide launch is beyond me. They could have sold a TON.

[wxwax]

Yup, they also forgot about no tethering to a laptop, no bluetooth file transfers, no folder structure/finder, no unlocking to work with ANY other sim cards besides AT&Ts, & on & on. All smartphones can do these things & are considered "the basics". Heck, even most low end phones can do these things plus what else was mentioned.

Its a great phone, but that AT&T deal crippled the hell outta it. No way, not for $600 anyway. Why they didnt just sell it only at the Apple Stores unlocked & had a worldwide launch is beyond me. They could have sold a TON.
So to sync a datebook or a phonebook with your computer, you have to go through the internet?

[patch29]

So to sync a datebook or a phonebook with your computer, you have to go through the internet?

It comes with a dock (just like an ipod) and syncs via itunes.

[wxwax]

It comes with a dock (just like an ipod) and syncs via itunes.
I should have recorded you two months ago. You're talking yourself into one, I can feel it. :evil

[Andy]

It comes with a dock (just like an ipod) and syncs via itunes.
Rather easily, I might add :evil

[patch29]

I should have recorded you two months ago. You're talking yourself into one, I can feel it. :evil


I already know a few people that have an iphone. I am feeling left out. :cry

[patch29]

Apple planning host of iPhone updates before Leopard release. If they are true it would be nice.


more info here (http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/07/07/01/apple_planning_host_of_iphone_updates_before_leopa rd_release_source.html).

[Terrence]

So...were people sleeping out purely to have them on the first day or is there an expectation there will be stock shortages? There's no shortage of them from what I see around my area. Just about every Apple store has them.

The stories of people paying for spots in line and for other to wait for them is pretty silly. Maybe I'm just no fun anymore. :scratch

[peestandingup]

So...were people sleeping out purely to have them on the first day or is there an expectation there will be stock shortages? There's no shortage of them from what I see around my area. Just about every Apple store has them.

The stories of people paying for spots in line and for other to wait for them is pretty silly. Maybe I'm just no fun anymore. :scratch
No, it is pointless. That is unless some people were just waiting in line for the "experience".

Our store had a line of like 200+ people at 6:00pm. By 8:00, anyone could just walk in freely & buy one, play around, etc. But AT&T stores are def sold out, so I guess for those people not around any Apple Stores would be SOL.

[Zanotti]

Some more news stories:

http://blogs.business2.com/thirdscreen/2007/06/want-free-pr-he.html

http://www.cnbc.com/id/19506195
(the Zooomr group - wearing Smuggy hats :lol3 )

http://money.cnn.com/2007/06/29/technology/iphone/?postversion=2007062915

http://origin.mercurynews.com/ci_6261313

Andy:

How come they get the red hats and we customers can't?

[Andy]

Andy:

How come they get the red hats and we customers can't?
Yeah, our hats through our gear store kinda suck :(

But there is: http://www.cafepress.com/smugmug/2281472

Ben is working on getting red hats available - and oh by the way, if we ever meet at a SmugEvent, we'll have a red hat for ya :)

[Zanotti]

Yeah, our hats through our gear store kinda suck :(

But there is: http://www.cafepress.com/smugmug/2281472

Ben is working on getting red hats available - and oh by the way, if we ever meet at a SmugEvent, we'll have a red hat for ya :)

Hell, I'll fly up to NYC and take you to lunch at Peter Luger's for a hat! ((OK, maybe two hats, but we'll drink too!))

http://zanotti.smugmug.com/photos/168951555-M.jpg (http://zanotti.smugmug.com/gallery/2348258#168951555)

Z

PS: Last time I saw HarryB, his was looking a little ratty as well......

[darryl]

I can't believe nobody volunteered this info or even asked the question:

*What does SmugMug look like on an iPhone??*

- Do all/any of the styles work?
- Does the slide show work?
- Can you upload directly from the device and the web upload tool?

Man! :-}

[Andy]

If anyone doubts the Apple-engineered magic, look here:
http://www.pcworld.com/video/id,545-page,1-bid,0/video.html#

pretty darn durable!

[antrieb]

I had a feeling you'd be the first to get your hands on one of these dad!

[Andy]

I can't believe nobody volunteered this info or even asked the question:

*What does SmugMug look like on an iPhone??*
- Do all/any of the styles work?
- Does the slide show work?
- Can you upload directly from the device and the web upload tool?

Man! :-}

Very easy to enlarge web pages :)
http://www.moonriverphotography.com/photos/169239771-L.jpg

Yeah the Slideshow works :)
http://www.moonriverphotography.com/photos/169239772-L.jpg

The auto rotate thing is way cool.
http://www.moonriverphotography.com/photos/169239757-L.jpg

Yeah, the styles work, SmugMug, Traditional, Slideshow - I didn't try the others .

[Andy]

I had a feeling you'd be the first to get your hands on one of these dad!
:lol3

:wave

[Andy]

:lol3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xXNoB3t8vM&mode=related&search=

[DavidTO]

Dude, I think I see a scratch on your iPhone....


Just sayin'.

[Andy]

Dude, I think I see a scratch on your iPhone....


Just sayin'.
No, it's Trevor greasy fingers.

Did you watch the freakin' Video of the torture test?

[darryl]

{Samples of SmugMug on iPhone}

Yeah, the styles work, SmugMug, Traditional, Slideshow - I didn't try the others .

Thanks Andy! Exactly what I wanted to see. There's still no way I'm buying one of these puppies (disposible income is rather low these days... also, I work for the competition -- Palm!), but I was curious.

Also, Phanfare, which I'm using more often than SmugMug (because they do video right (http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=61573&page=2#13")) only offers Flash slideshows, which drives me crazy.

Which means Phanfare slideshows won't work on an iPhone, nor do they work on my Wii (which actually has Flash, but only v7, not v9, which Phanfare insists on forcing people to upgrade to.)

I suppose Flash may be necessary to actually enable movies to play in a slideshow, which is something SmugMug needs to consider if they ever (hah) get around to supporting video correctly.

HAHA -- I just tried doing Slideshow on my Smugmug gallery with two videos. The videos play in the background, while the foreground slideshow displays really crappy single frame captures blown up to fill the screen. Wow, that is so lame.

[thebigsky]

Thanks for posting those Andy, I can't believe we've got to wait until October in the UK. :scratch

Charlie

[Andy]

Hell, I'll fly up to NYC and take you to lunch at Peter Luger's

:nono haven't eaten anything from an animal, now going on 6 months :wave

[Zanotti]

:nono haven't eaten anything from an animal, now going on 6 months :wave

If God hadn't wanted you to eat meat, why did he make cows out of it?

[ivar]

If God hadn't wanted you to eat meat, why did he make cows out of it?cows eat grass and produce milk. Farmer milks cows, and sells milk to icecream company. Icecream company makes icecream, which Andy buys so his son can eat icecream instead of playing with the iPhone so Andy can play with the iPhone himself.

[pyrtek]

The "craziness" in the subject is becoming more and more apt with each post
in this thread.

[ivar]

The "craziness" in the subject is becoming more and more apt with each post in this thread.I KNOW! Andy not eating animals....what's next? :dunno

[pyrtek]

I KNOW! Andy not eating animals....what's next? :dunno

Not eating at all?

[wmstumme]

So is this the next contest? Pictures of food to temp Andy?

While I'm thinking of it; is there any Mac user-Vegetarian/PC user-carnivore correlation?

[pyrtek]

While I'm thinking of it; is there any Mac user-Vegetarian/PC user-carnivore correlation?

My Big Mac says the opposite is more likely.

[Andy]

My Big Mac says the opposite is more likely.
:rofl :rofl :rofl

[windoze]

http://video.on.nytimes.com/?fr_story=f390265dcbb9e1f1da97a69637e921d39b6c99aa



lol



troy

[kdog]

Seen this? An iPhone Changed My Life (Briefly) (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/05/fashion/05Cyber.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin)

[Rhuarc]

Lol, that is awesome! It kind of makes you take into perspective the "next new gadget" syndrome. Not that it makes me want that next new syndrome any less! :rofl

[ian408]

:nono haven't eaten anything from an animal, now going on 6 months :wave
Ahhhhemmm....

[dkoyanagi]

Ahhhhemmm....
:rofl

[ivar]

Seen this? An iPhone Changed My Life (Briefly) (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/05/fashion/05Cyber.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin)
Day 2, Saturday: By the time I came downstairs for breakfast, the neighbors had gathered in the kitchen, rocking the iPhone and cooing, “Isn’t it cute?”
:lol3

[Andy]

Ahhhhemmm....
OK OK some cream in my coffee. So shoot me :lol3

[ian408]

OK OK some cream in my coffee. So shoot me :lol3

:rofl :rofl

[DavidTO]

OK OK some cream in my coffee. So shoot me :lol3


Hey, anyone who's seen Andy "before" would be surprised to see him "after". It's quite an accomplishment, and I get the feeling that the change is here to stay. He's not gonna gain back the 50 he's lost. Hasta la vista, baby! :D

[wxwax]

50? :huh :huh

[Angelo]

clearly photos are in order!

[Andy]

50? :huh :huh
:nod working on more, too. Man, I just cleaned out my closet... my wife had recently bought me a mess of Tommy Bahama XXL Shirts. Out they go!

[DavidTO]

50? :huh :huh


Like I said, if you've seen him before...

[wxwax]

Like I said, if you've seen him before...
I've been looking at Andy pics hoping to see dramatic change. I guess Ian's pasta feeding shot doesn't show the slender Andy to his best advantage.

[wxwax]

:nod working on more, too. Man, I just cleaned out my closet... my wife had recently bought me a mess of Tommy Bahama XXL Shirts. Out they go!
:bow

Tremendous.

[Allen]

:nod working on more, too. Man, I just cleaned out my closet... my wife had recently bought me a mess of Tommy Bahama XXL Shirts. Out they go!
Whatever, just don't post no before/after speedo shots.:D:puke

[David_S85]

:nod working on more, too. Man, I just cleaned out my closet... my wife had recently bought me a mess of Tommy Bahama XXL Shirts. Out they go!

50? Really? Wow. :huh

Remember the cross-country cycling trip all those years ago? I'll bet you could do it again. :deal That might take shave off another 20. Of course adding the 5D/24-105 combo + the iPhone/accessories and the laptop might pack another 10-12 pounds.

[rosselliot]

50? Really? Wow. :huh

Remember the cross-country cycling trip all those years ago? I'll bet you could do it again. :deal That might take shave off another 20. Of course adding the 5D/24-105 combo + the iPhone/accessories and the laptop might pack another 10-12 pounds.


the iPhone is awesome, I absolutely love mine! It's great.

- Ross

[Andy]

SmugMug on the iPhone :)

If you have one, add this url to your bookmarks:

http://nickname.smugmug.com/iphone

:clap

[StevenV]

http://www.liquidgeneration.com/Media/Videos/Viral_Videos/Tech_Nerdy/iPhone_Lady_Gets_Pwned/

[StevenV]

SmugMug on the iPhone :)


...or other mobile device - this works great on my Windows Mobile Cingular (oops - AT&T) 8525.

It's great that SM did this, but I think that /mobile would have been better than such a seemingly device-specific URL.

[Andy]

http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/2007/07/13/smugmug-on-our-iphones/

See Don's Blog :)

[Shima]

http://video.on.nytimes.com/?fr_story=f390265dcbb9e1f1da97a69637e921d39b6c99aa



lol



troy

yeah david pogue is my hero, lol
I read him (and watch him) religiously

Anyone see his "it's all geek to me" tv episode on digital photography (broadcast on Discovery HD)?

[patch29]

Now that you have had your iphones for a few weeks, what do you still think of them?

What do you like most and least?


A referb 4GB for $399 is starting to get tempting. If only I knew how long it would be before iphone 2.0 will be released. :D

[Andy]

Now that you have had your iphones for a few weeks, what do you still think of them?

What do you like most and least?


A referb 4GB for $399 is starting to get tempting. If only I knew how long it would be before iphone 2.0 will be released. :DI totally love mine. Very easy for email, web, contacts, all that. Having the music is a bonus for me. Now only one device to carry :)

Gone are the days when you had to work hard at synching all your crap (calendar, contacts etc). It just works, period.

[patch29]

How is everyone adapting to the keyboard? Can you type efficiently with it?

[StevenV]

Gone are the days when you had to work hard at synching all your crap (calendar, contacts etc). It just works, period.

fwiw, I find the iPhone as appealing as the next Apple-lovin' guy, and I'm not knocking it, but there are plenty of other devices (http://steven.vorefamily.net/2007/07/03/no-iphone-for-me-yet/) that are just as adept (or more so) at synching all your crap. The iPhone is innovative in many ways, but syncing isn't magic.

[patch29]

8GB iPhone now $399. :clap



Tempting. :D

[Stef]

8GB iPhone now $399. :clap



Tempting. :D

Get it... you will love it!

I went out and got it last night. I'm in love. I'm just glad I didn't get it when it first came out. I would have been very angry.

BUT.. the price drop finally made me want to take the plunge and I am glad I did!

[photocat]

give me the ipod touch... I am happy with my blackberry, but that ipod touch is really something. I think that the iPhone is too expensive for a lot of people. (It is for me...)

[thebigsky]

give me the ipod touch... I am happy with my blackberry, but that ipod touch is really something. I think that the iPhone is too expensive for a lot of people. (It is for me...)

I've ordered an iPod Touch as I don't use a mobile phone and the battery is a bit knackered in my Nano.

I'm looking forward to doing some wifi browsing in the garden, can't wait.

Charlie

[patch29]

I am now an iPhone owner. :clap

So far so good. :thumb

[Andy]

I am now an iPhone owner. :clap

So far so good. :thumb
:clap

[patch29]

:clap


My first iPhone reply!!! :thumb

It is a little tricky getting used to typing on this small screen and the scrolling is odd.

[photocat]

My first iPhone reply!!! :thumb

It is a little tricky getting used to typing on this small screen and the scrolling is odd.

Congrats... I went for the iPod Touch instead... Don't believe that the iphone in UK can be used to satisfaction. They will team up with O2, which is an expensive British provider, and you have to get it via car phone warehouse.
This is the duo I have now, and it is a pain... When I need support and call O2 they swop me to carphone warehouse, and the other way around. Painful...

Could anyone on this board tell me if the ipod Touch can do wifi on all wifi networks? Or is it just the starbucks network?
Important question, as starbucks is not as wide spread in UK as in USA...
Any insight would be appreciated

[patch29]

Could anyone on this board tell me if the ipod Touch can do wifi on all wifi networks? Or is it just the starbucks network?
Important question, as starbucks is not as wide spread in UK as in USA...
Any insight would be appreciated

I would think any open Wi-Fi (802.11b/g) network would work, not just Starbucks. I don't think Starbucks is offering free wifi, but will be offering access for itunes purchases.

[photocat]

I would think any open wifi network would work, not just Starbucks. I don't think Starbucks is offering free wifi, but will be offering access for itunes purchases.

I thought wifi in starbucks is free, as long as you have a drink there... I have never paid for wifi in starbucks till now... My husband thinks that the wifi will only work in starbucks though, I am more inclined to believe you, as I think it would be pretty useless if we could only use it when in starbucks.

Lots of people complaining about the no mail function, but if we can browse, we can read and answer mail via our browser, as long as we have a provider who allows webmail.... I hope it gets here soon so I can try it out.

I read that all previous iphone buyers get a voucher for 100 dollar to spend in apple stuff... neat! It is not nice if they lower the price the day after you bought it.

Thanks for the speedy reply. I am a lady(hmmm) in waiting now...

[DavidTO]

In the US wifi in Starbucks is anything but free. In fact, Jobs refers to that. $7 for two cups of coffee, and you have to pay for wifi.

The Starbucks deal is just to get past that, and get free access to the music store while in Starbucks. The wifi works anywhere.

[patch29]

New iphone (http://www.apple.com/iphone/) and no posts? No more iphone craziness is everyone waiting for July 11th?

[ian408]

New iphone (http://www.apple.com/iphone/) and no posts? No more iphone craziness is everyone waiting for July 11th?
It's cause everyone who bought one is still in shock from the new low price :lol3

[patch29]

It's cause everyone who bought one is still in shock from the new low price :lol3


It is a better deal to buy, but 3G data is not $30 a month or $45 for business users. I really wish they would make a tethering option, even if it cost more.

Can we also have

copy and paste
flash support
MMS

I had tried the first iphone, but returned it. I went through the battery very quickly and could not deal well with EDGE browsing. I have made it a year, I wonder if I will buy one this time. I will probably wait to see what users think and then see what software developers offer for it.

[ian408]

Edge SUCKS! Whoops. I shouldn't be so mean...

Yeah, the lower price just lures you into the store and then you sign up and
realize they'll make the difference up in short order. Oh well. At least AT&T
are going to offer a discount on top of that price.

[SloYerRoll]

I was pretty unimpressed w/ the new release. I see a ton of potential for 3rd party apps and development. Other than that...

Meh..

At least AT&T
are going to offer a discount on top of that price.I don't believe for a minute that Apple isn't getting a slice of that AT&T pie in some way shape or form.

[ivar]

On the 11th of July, the Netherlands will become a civilized country, also :lol3

[photocat]

It is not about the phone, it is about the package that you have to take in UK for the data. I think that other phones like Nokia and Samsung, Eriksson, will become cheaper and are in fact better then iphone. Nobody mentions the data package you have to buy on top of the 30 or 40 pounds a month subscription.
I have the touch, and don't need a data package for that, only a free open network... I don't know if the iphone will be able to do that, just hook into an open network... If you need a data package, it is a no go for me, as 30 or 40 or 100 pounds a month for a lot of people is still a big stack of money...
I think I will go for a nice new samsung instead...

[ian408]

It is not about the phone, it is about the package that you have to take in UK for the data.

Here in the States, AT&T are lowering the cost of the phone. But raising the
price of service. Not worth it.

Once their exclusivity expires, then maybe I'll consider one but until then,
too rich for my blood.

[DavidTO]

Here in the States, AT&T are lowering the cost of the phone. But raising the
price of service. Not worth it.

Once their exclusivity expires, then maybe I'll consider one but until then,
too rich for my blood.


They are charging the 3G data rate that they charge on any 3G phone. Or is there something else that I'm missing?

[ian408]

They are charging the 3G data rate that they charge on any 3G phone. Or is there something else that I'm missing?
It's the same 3G price but remember, it's only when you upgrade to the 3G. And face it, most people don't need 3G. Which makes it a huge win for AT&T.

[SloYerRoll]

I'm not too worried about AT&T. AT&T has made more in text messages via American Idol than they have in their entire business life Pre-Idol.

I can't find the source where I read that. But I do remember it was reputable.

[ian408]

I'm not too worried about AT&T. AT&T has made more in text messages via American Idol than they have in their entire business life Pre-Idol.

I can't find the source where I read that. But I do remember it was reputable.
Isn't it like $.50 a pop too (plus whatever your data plan costs)?

[DavidTO]

It's the same 3G price but remember, it's only when you upgrade to the 3G. And face it, most people don't need 3G. Which makes it a huge win for AT&T.


The more ppl use the iPhone the more they'll need 3G. It will create the need, and you'll wonder how you lived without it. Remember, all those apps....

[gus]

It's the same 3G price but remember, it's only when you upgrade to the 3G. And face it, most people don't need 3G. Which makes it a huge win for AT&T.
What i dont get. I have a boring nokia. I was in a remote area travelling in the car on the weekend & my daughter was searching google on i whilst using its GPS at the same time. Its got a great camera...blue tooth ..holds 34 trillion songs etc etc etc & it costs me $30/mth with $150 free calls which i couldnt use if i tried :scratch But people here still pay a fortune for an iphone.

The phrase 'cant see the wood from the trees comes to mind'

.

[mercphoto]

What i dont get. I have a boring nokia. I was in a remote area travelling in the car on the weekend & my daughter was searching google on i whilst using its GPS at the same time. Its got a great camera...blue tooth ..holds 34 trillion songs etc etc etc & it costs me $30/mth with $150 free calls which i couldnt use if i tried :scratch But people here still pay a fortune for an iphone.

The phrase 'cant see the wood from the trees comes to mind'

.
The iPhone has a much larger screen, for one. The user interface is just, well, its just plain better. Easier to use. More intuitive. Its a total experience, not just a collection of features. Apple is more than just a list of features, which is what most people don't understand.

[patch29]

They are charging the 3G data rate that they charge on any 3G phone. Or is there something else that I'm missing?

Internet and 200 MMS for my 3G Razr runs $20/month, but I cannot do what you can do on an iphone with it.

[patch29]

I wonder if the 3G iphone will be able to make a phone call and access the internet at the same time? My RAZR can do it, hopefully the iphone will as well.

[gus]

The iPhone has a much larger screen, for one. The user interface is just, well, its just plain better. Easier to use. More intuitive. Its a total experience, not just a collection of features. Apple is more than just a list of features, which is what most people don't understand.
You mean that turtle neck thingy ?

[devbobo]

You mean that turtle neck thingy ?

:lol3 :lol3

[pathfinder]

Oh Gus, that again!:D :D

[gluwater]

Oh Gus, that again!:D :D
:rofl:giggle:lol3:crazy

[greenpea]

So, if you work for a company that will cover data part of the cost, do you think that the iphone worth it?

[StevenV]

So, if you work for a company that will cover data part of the cost, do you think that the iphone worth it?absolutely. I used to use another device that had similar capabilities (http://steven.vorefamily.net/2007/07/03/no-iphone-for-me-yet/) (though none of the style), and when it broke I felt like my arm was cut off. Going back to just a phone, without my email, full address book, web browser etc. etc. is downright painful. And that's without the iPhone's style, UI and the upcoming apps. The minute I get a new job, I'm heading to "the iPhone store." :wink

[SloYerRoll]

It's a really sweet phone. But there are a few smart phones that do certian applications better then iPhones.

So as usual, the answer is depends.. What your needs are. The new iPhone and others like the Touch and Voyager are SWEEET phones. But if you really want to stay functional in the field w/ minimal work. Smart phones are a better route.

JMO

[greenpea]

Right now work provides me with a blackjack II. Nice device, terrible battery life. 90% of the time I only use it for email, scheduling meetings, and web access, however once (just to see if I could, and to see how difficult it would be) I worked on a word document while on the bus to work; I don't think I will be able to do that with an iphone.

The blackjack that works gives me has a data only plan (unlimited), no voice. So right now carry my blackjack, my cell phone, and my ipod. Getting an iphone just seems like an ideal way to combine everything.

The reason for not getting an iphone in the past, was that it didn't support msft exchange.

[SloYerRoll]

I would do it in a second to consolidate all that extra luggage. I hate clutter though.
I guess another factor is if you like a digital or button keyboard.

There's a ton of development out there. I'd be really surprised if they didn't have reliable msft xchange applications by now.

[StevenV]

I'd be really surprised if they didn't have reliable msft xchange applications by now.July 11th (http://www.apple.com/iphone/enterprise/).

[greenpea]

July 11th (http://www.apple.com/iphone/enterprise/).

yah, I still have a little while to make up my mind. :D

Besides, with iPhones, aren't you suppose to wait a few months before buying them, until apple lowers the price. :wink

[SloYerRoll]

aren't you suppose to wait a few months before buying them, until apple lowers the price. :wink :nod

[gus]

I would do it in a second to consolidate all that extra luggage. I hate clutter though.


What do you mean by extra luggage ? Other phones ?

[SloYerRoll]

What do you mean by extra luggage ? Other phones ?Ya, going down from having 3 pieces of electronics to 1 piece is a definite bonus in my book.

[greenpea]

What do you mean by extra luggage ? Other phones ?

I would love it if I had one device to make calls, send emails, look at pictures, take pictures, listen to music, watch movies, and do what ever it is you do with iphones that smugmug is currently working on. :D

[gus]

Ya, going down from having 3 pieces of electronics to 1 piece is a definite bonus in my book.
Ahh ok. I often lose my phone ...and wallet & keys for a week at a time, sometimes longer. Eventually they always turn up. I even once left them all on the footpath for about 3 hours & when i returned they were still there (much to my wifes amusement) despite it being a rather busy road.

The less i care about stuff like this the less it cares about me of which im starting to enjoy.

[DavidTO]

iPhone's true cost compared (http://gizmodo.com/5015540/iphone-3gs-true-price-compared)

[greenpea]

iPhone's true cost compared (http://gizmodo.com/5015540/iphone-3gs-true-price-compared)

The iPhone wasn't the most expensive option on that list, pretty much all the 3G options that were presented were pretty expensive. \

Then if you use the iPhone for work, the data plan goes up to $45, and if you want all of the other cool features its $99 more a year for mobile me.

[SloYerRoll]

http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/06/video-iphone-co.html

Video: iPhone controls robot plane squad

[patch29]

Can you use the headset on a phone call and be on the internet at the same time on the iphone 3G? :ear


Does anyone use a POP mail account? What do you use for a server when sending mail, att wireless server or your own webhost?

[bwg]

Can you use the headset on a phone call and be on the internet at the same time on the iphone 3G? :ear

Yes, but you have to have a 3G or WiFi connection.

[DavidTO]

Does anyone use a POP mail account? What do you use for a server when sending mail, att wireless server or your own webhost?


I avoid POP at all costs, so that I don't have to manage my messages twice. IMAP, FTW!

[patch29]

Yes, but you have to have a 3G or WiFi connection.


Thanks, that is what I was hoping for.

[patch29]

I avoid POP at all costs, so that I don't have to manage my messages twice. IMAP, FTW!


My webhost for my domain name does not allow sent messages to be stored on the server, so that makes IMAP difficult for me to use. Do you have a webhost that will allow sent messages to be kept on the server? I might try to make a switch soon. :dunno

[DavidTO]

I'm REALLY frustrated with the bluetooth on this thing. My built in BT in my Prius worked like a charm with my old phone. I was always told "Oh, you're driving? I had no idea! You sound great." Now all I get is "What? I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you. It sounds like you're talking into a paper bag. You're muffled, what?"

:wxwax

All Apple can suggest is turning off services: location services, wifi, push, 3G. Seriously WTF. It is so friggin' frustrating. The thing barely works.

I've reset it, restored it, reset all settings, re-paired it with the car, turned off everything but the BT. All. No. Go.

Again: :wxwax

[DavidTO]

My webhost for my domain name does not allow sent messages to be stored on the server, so that makes IMAP difficult for me to use. Do you have a webhost that will allow sent messages to be kept on the server? I might try to make a switch soon. :dunno


You know, I've not looked into the details that much. I just like IMAP, so I use it.

I know that gmail offers IMAP, you could check that out.

[patch29]

Is push email limited to 3G or wifi?

[bwg]

Is push email limited to 3G or wifi?push email is limited to MobileMe or Exchange. It'll work fine over EDGE afaik.

[patch29]

Can you create a file (pdf, doc, etc) on a Macbook, plug in the iphone, transfer that file to the iphone (somehow, but no internet access for the MB), then attach the file to an email in the iphone and email it?

[DavidTO]

Can you create a file (pdf, doc, etc) on a Macbook, plug in the iphone, transfer that file to the iphone (somehow, but no internet access for the MB), then attach the file to an email in the iphone and email it?


As far as I know the only way to get a document into the iPhone at this point is to email it.

That really sucks, I would love to have a little app that would allow syncing of docs and viewing of them. You can view them in Mail in the iPhone, so the viewing is all there (.doc, .pdf, .pages, etc). You just have to email it. Blecch.

On another note, have you guys seen this (http://www.lifeclever.com/17-powerful-bookmarklets-for-your-iphone/) on the power of bookmarklets on the iPhone? Cool! :thumb

[patch29]

As far as I know the only way to get a document into the iPhone at this point is to email it.

That really sucks, I would love to have a little app that would allow syncing of docs and viewing of them. You can view them in Mail in the iPhone, so the viewing is all there (.doc, .pdf, .pages, etc). You just have to email it. Blecch.

On another note, have you guys seen this (http://www.lifeclever.com/17-powerful-bookmarklets-for-your-iphone/) on the power of bookmarklets on the iPhone? Cool! :thumb

bummer. I thought there was an app that could do it, but maybe only for jailbroken phones. :dunno

It would be nice to have a finder for the iphone, plug into your laptop, search the HD and put what you want on the phone, maybe someday.

[patch29]

Looks like some developers are working on it, but it may be limited more by what iphone mail can do.


Can I email files from FileMagnet (http://magnetismstudios.com/FileMagnet/)? Not yet, but we're working on it! The iPhone version of Mail doesn't support sending attachments, so this will require a bit of work.

[devbobo]

bummer. I thought there was an app that could do it, but maybe only for jailbroken phones. :dunno

It would be nice to have a finder for the iphone, plug into your laptop, search the HD and put what you want on the phone, maybe someday.

patch,

there is an app in the AppStore called TouchFS (http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=285166614&mt=8) that does this

Cheers,

David

[DavidTO]

patch,

there is an app in the AppStore called TouchFS that does this

Cheers,

David


:clap

One time I'm really glad I was wrong. I searched high and low for this. I just missed it! :D

Oh, wait, the reviews suck. I did see another app with 1 star ratings, this one doesn't seem to do much better. I'm going to wait. :deal

[jdryan3]

I tested one of the new iPhones for several days last week. One of the first things you notice is the short battery life if you are runnig it full tilt. At 2:00pm I charged it, worked my way thru the features, made a couple calls, a little browsing and GPS tests, lots of e-mail across several accounts, no music, dead at 8:30. Bluetooth was not on.

So I charged overnight, turned it on at 6:40am, turned off wi-fi at 10:am and used it more like a regular PDA, but did some more testing. It was down to 10% battery life at 2:30am the next day, even allowing me to send mail at that time. Again, no music. Certainly much better, but if you use it in critical situations, the life is no where near a typical flip phone or even a BlackBerry.

It took me forever, but I was finally able to find out at&t's SMTP server name for outbound mail for those accounts that need it. gmail was a breeze however. Exchange was surprisingly good. Unfortunately I also have accounts with services that provide POP3 or webmail but not true IMAP functionality. So I will have to decide between POP3 (not!) to the iPhone or just use webmail on Safari (less than optimal). Mail forwarding/aggregating might be an answer but replies get tricky.

Question for all the iPhone / iTouch dgrinners: what res (ppi) and dimensions are optimal for images? Seems it would be 72ppi, but since you can zoom in, I'm not sure what it would be.

[greenpea]

I tested one of the new iPhones for several days last week. One of the first things you notice is the short battery life if you are runnig it full tilt. At 2:00pm I charged it, worked my way thru the features, made a couple calls, a little browsing and GPS tests, lots of e-mail across several accounts, no music, dead at 8:30. Bluetooth was not on.

So I charged overnight, turned it on at 6:40am, turned off wi-fi at 10:am and used it more like a regular PDA, but did some more testing. It was down to 10% battery life at 2:30am the next day, even allowing me to send mail at that time. Again, no music. Certainly much better, but if you use it in critical situations, the life is no where near a typical flip phone or even a BlackBerry.
After 1 week of use I've found the iPhone battery life to be similar (slightly better) than my previous 3G device (a Blackjack II) which I used only for data (no voice). I also use to have a old original color blackberry, and that got slightly better battery life than the iPhone. As for my old motorola razr, it got much better battery life than my iPhone.


Question for all the iPhone / iTouch dgrinners: what res (ppi) and dimensions are optimal for images? Seems it would be 72ppi, but since you can zoom in, I'm not sure what it would be.
Here is an article on Scott Kelby's blog (http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/2008/archives/1717) about putting optimal sized images on your iPhone.

[patch29]

It took me forever, but I was finally able to find out at&t's SMTP server name for outbound mail for those accounts that need it..

What are the server settings?

The more I read about poor battery life, the less I want to buy one. I am tempted to get an itouch, 8gb for $199 refurbished, not a bad deal.

[DavidTO]

What are the server settings?

The more I read about poor battery life, the less I want to buy one. I am tempted to get an itouch, 8gb for $199 refurbished, not a bad deal.


From what I read the battery life is excellent, best in its class. Problem is, it's in a class of juice-sucking pigs.

I'm happy enough with the battery life, given my use of it and my proximity to power on a day to day basis. If I need to turn services off to extend life sometimes, then so be it.

[zacker]

"Our strategy was to get here early and buy as many as they'll let us," he said. He plans to buy the iPhones for all 26 of his employees.







What? he only wanted to buy them for his employees only? cheapskate... no wonder i never recieved mine from Smugmug!!! :scratch

lol

[DavidTO]

Has anyone else tried to post a reply in Dgrin with their iPhone and found it to be annoying slow to recognize keystrokes? Any solution?

[greenpea]

Has anyone else tried to post a reply in Dgrin with their iPhone and found it to be annoying slow to recognize keystrokes? Any solution?

you could write a dgrin app (or vBulletin app) for the iPhone. :D

[DavidTO]

you could write a dgrin app (or vBulletin app) for the iPhone. :D


Apparently you don't know me very well. Not a possibility. :deal



:D

[greenpea]

Apparently you don't know me very well. Not a possibility. :deal



:D

I did installed xCode, and download the sdk, but its been a long time since I worked with anything like objective C. However, I figure someone will have a vBulletin app eventually.

[greenpea]

Found this article (http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/07/16/apples_iphone_3g_battery_good_for_about_3_5_hours_ of_browsing.html) about the iPhone battery life. Backs up one observation that I made: its is better than the 3G Blackjack.

I guess its a good idea to keep your charger with you.

[patch29]

I finally bought an iphone, so far it seems pretty good, giving mobileme a test and trying to figure out all the bells and whistles.

[DavidTO]

I downloaded the free (for now) iPhone app, 1Password (http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=285897618&mt=8). It is an iPhone version of their desktop app (https://agilewebsolutions.com/products/1Password). I'd never been compelled to get it before. Yes, it adds functionality to Keychain Access, but I never really felt the need for it.

After downloading the iPhone version, and finding out that you can sync all the info from your mac, I decided to bite the bullet and buy the app. At $35 I think it's just a touch pricey for what you get, but it's a very good application, and I don't really mind paying for quality.

Syncing with the iPhone is very easy, but I am left with some extra webpassword entries on the iPhone that aren't on the desktop, and shouldn't be there. I can't figure out how to delete them, and even though they're deleted from the desktop and the trash is emptied, they still show up on the iPhone.

The app stores web passwords, but you don't use Mobile Safari with it, rather a browser built on the same webkit. It's fine, but you can't do the cool rotate into landscape view that you can in Safari. Harumph. It is version 1.2, so hopefully they'll add more cool features in the future.

I have some problems with logins. For instance, I have two Google Checkout accounts. GC keeps your username hard written and allows entry of the password only, unless you select "login as different user". It's kind of a PITA. Still working on that one. On the Mac I found that logging out of GC when I was done worked, but it doesn't seem to help on the iPhone

I'm still playing with it, and I'm still a little mixed on it, TBH. But it's well worth checking out.

There's a really great video tute and overview of the product, here (http://cdn2.libsyn.com/donmc2/SCO0160-1password-free-640x360-h264-Free-ipod.mov?nvb=20080802211834&nva=20080803211834&t=0d5b54a6ccb8cac5e12df).

Oh, I nearly forgot. You can sync secure notes from Mac to iPhone, too. :deal

[StevenV]

any of you upgraded to the new model and want to sell your older, first-gen iPhone?

[Andy]

Photo Calc for your iPhone! (http://ax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/browserRedirect?url=itms%253A%252F%252Fax.phobos.a pple.com.edgesuite.net%252FWebObjects%252FMZStore. woa%252Fwa%252FviewSoftware%253Fid%253D287811118%2 526mt%253D8)

(link opens in iTunes)

It's rather cool :thumb

[jdryan3]

Photo Calc for your iPhone! (http://ax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/browserRedirect?url=itms%253A%252F%252Fax.phobos.a pple.com.edgesuite.net%252FWebObjects%252FMZStore. woa%252Fwa%252FviewSoftware%253Fid%253D287811118%2 526mt%253D8)

(link opens in iTunes)

It's rather cool :thumb

Ansel Adams reduced to an iPhone App:dunno

Still looks cool, though, especially the DOF. I wonder if you can somehow tie it to geotagging...

[jdryan3]

Here is an article on Scott Kelby's blog (http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/2008/archives/1717) about putting optimal sized images on your iPhone.

Thanks. Confirms what I thought. Given the aspect ratio I will probably boost it from the square 480x480. I'll see the diff in file size of that and the HD ratio.

[jdryan3]

What are the server settings?

The more I read about poor battery life, the less I want to buy one. I am tempted to get an itouch, 8gb for $199 refurbished, not a bad deal.

After I dug it up on my own (https://www.wireless.att.com/support_static_files/KB/KB72769.html), my rep confirmed it.

AT&T customers use "cwmx.com" (Standard POP/IMAP compatible via port 25 with no SSL.)

But check the link, also wi-fi must be off for it to work (wi-fi takes precedence over the 3G or EDGE network).

Biggest issue is if you have an IMAP or POP mail account. Roadrunner uses POP. Sure they have a webmail client, but you have to use Safari. OOPS! Network Solutions webmail is compatible with IE, not Safari. So you have to think about how you route and save mail on various servers. GMAIL is great, and I've had no problems using Exchange Active Sync for mail.

But I have several subfolders on Exchange for Contacts, and iPhone seems to only see the top level. But I haven't really looked into a solution for that one (yet!).

[Andy]

http://photojojo.com/content/guides/iphone-photography-applications/