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gus
Feb-13-2005, 11:43 PM
How come some of you blokes are sooo freaked out with wanting super sharp photos yet so many of you use zooms ? :1drink

Are certain zooms as good or the benefit of zoom outweights the small loss of quality ?

Im talking about the 135 f/2 btw....do photogs see this as an odd size ? I dont see it in use a lot around the place.

luckyrwe
Feb-14-2005, 06:35 PM
For some of the prices we pay, we want (an expect) it all! :D

fish
Feb-14-2005, 07:04 PM
How come some of you blokes are sooo freaked out with wanting super sharp photos yet so many of you use zooms ? :1drink Flexibility.

Are certain zooms as good or the benefit of zoom outweights the small loss of quality ? Yes.

Im talking about the 135 f/2 btw....do photogs see this as an odd size ? I dont see it in use a lot around the place. (1) That's a 216mm on a 1.6 crop camera. What are you going to shoot with it? That's a great portrait lens on a FF or 35mm camera, but kinda long for 1.6x. JMHO.

(2) That's a $900 lens. For $700 more, I can get an f2.8 with IS that runs from 70mm to 200mm, running right over that 135 signpost.

:pimp

Andy
Feb-14-2005, 07:20 PM
Flexibility.

Yes.


(1) That's a 216mm on a 1.6 crop camera. What are you going to shoot with it? That's a great portrait lens on a FF or 35mm camera, but kinda long for 1.6x. JMHO.

(2) That's a $900 lens. For $700 more, I can get an f2.8 with IS that runs from 70mm to 200mm, passing right through that 135 signpost.

:pimp

yes, some zooms are darn near as good as primes. take canon's 70-200 f/2.8L i.s. - damn sharp, across the focal range.

agree with fish on the 135 f/2 - you'd be much better served with the 70-200L f/2.8 i.s. combinign that with the high iso stellar performance of the 20d that you'll be buying, an you've got a winning combination.

next week: we'll talk about canon's 16-35L and 17-40L on the wide side, and canon's 24-70L for general use. :deal

but 'gus, mate: you have to fish or cut bait, eh? all this yimmer yammering is makin' yer dragon do funny things:






http://williams.smugmug.com/photos/15651390-L.gif

wxwax
Feb-14-2005, 08:39 PM
That's it, the starter L lens kit.

16-35 2.8
24-70 2.8
70-200 2.8

Fast, covers the basic range, and high quality. Get the 135 2 if you need the extra speed. Ditto the 35 1.4 and the 50 1.4. But you should identify a need before forking over the dough.

Zooms are awfully convenient. Lazy people don't have to work as hard at composing the shot.

gus
Feb-14-2005, 09:31 PM
Flexibility.

Yes.

(1) That's a 216mm on a 1.6 crop camera. What are you going to shoot with it? That's a great portrait lens on a FF or 35mm camera, but kinda long for 1.6x. JMHO.

(2) That's a $900 lens. For $700 more, I can get an f2.8 with IS that runs from 70mm to 200mm, running right over that 135 signpost.

:pimp
Its (70-200) just soooo flamin conspik...conspicol...bloody big & white !!!

gus
Feb-14-2005, 09:38 PM
yes, some zooms are darn near as good as primes. take canon's 70-200 f/2.8L i.s. - damn sharp, across the focal range.

agree with fish on the 135 f/2 - you'd be much better served with the 70-200L f/2.8 i.s. combinign that with the high iso stellar performance of the 20d that you'll be buying, an you've got a winning combination.

next week: we'll talk about canon's 16-35L and 17-40L on the wide side, and canon's 24-70L for general use. :deal

but 'gus, mate: you have to fish or cut bait, eh? all this yimmer yammering is makin' yer dragon do funny things:






http://williams.smugmug.com/photos/15651390-L.gifIm in no hurry mate. I just make damned sure of what im buyin' does what i expect it to do before i get the ready out. We were so poor when we were kids we had to paint our shoes on.

gus
Feb-14-2005, 11:26 PM
Jokes aside andy....could you hand hold a 70-200 F/2.8 IS with this type of night street shooting or would you really need a mono/tripod ?

http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=5251&page=1&pp=10








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Andy
Feb-15-2005, 01:27 AM
Jokes aside andy....could you hand hold a 70-200 F/2.8 IS with this type of night street shooting or would you really need a mono/tripod ?

http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=5251&page=1&pp=10



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of course you could.

fish
Feb-15-2005, 07:00 AM
Its (70-200) just soooo flamin conspik...conspicol...bloody big & white !!!
So? Are you more concerned about image quality or the fashion image?

mercphoto
Feb-15-2005, 07:25 AM
next week: we'll talk about canon's 16-35L and 17-40L on the wide side, and canon's 24-70L for general use. :deal

Now that I'm really looking forward to!

pathfinder
Feb-15-2005, 08:17 AM
Its (70-200) just soooo flamin conspik...conspicol...bloody big & white !!!
I agree 'gus, and that is why I carrythe 70-300 IS DO at times - more inconspicuous, longer reach and lighter too.:thumb

As to preferring zooms to primes - most of us if we were honest would admit that we want both, but just can't swing the swag for both. And even then you might want a prime when you are wearing a zoom or vice versa. Photographers are never pleased fully I think.:rofl