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philiphutson
Jun-20-2007, 03:31 PM
I learned something on the workshop :D
http://www.hutsonphotography.com/dgrin/sunstar.jpg

Making 'Muench Stars' (copyright Marc Muench used without permission :D)
-Philip

Andy
Jun-20-2007, 03:35 PM
I changed the thread title :thumb

Post 'em up, everyone!

http://www.moonriverphotography.com/photos/104246074-L.jpg

http://www.moonriverphotography.com/photos/104176544-L.jpg

Fred W
Jun-20-2007, 03:52 PM
http://photosbyfred.smugmug.com/photos/156445665-L.jpg

Patti
Jun-20-2007, 04:17 PM
I'm a newbie photographer (just beyond the 'take pix at family gatherings' use of camera) so can you tell me what a Muench star is exactly? :dunno

GREAPER
Jun-20-2007, 04:19 PM
http://dehmphoto.smugmug.com/photos/106334328-L.jpg

David_S85
Jun-20-2007, 04:23 PM
http://davidwatts.smugmug.com/photos/106989209-L.jpg
.
http://davidwatts.smugmug.com/photos/106989243-L.jpg

pathfinder
Jun-20-2007, 04:23 PM
Here's a few I've gotten since learning the ropes from Marc...

http://Pathfinder.smugmug.com/photos/160599260-L.jpg

http://Pathfinder.smugmug.com/photos/158290884-L.jpg

http://Pathfinder.smugmug.com/photos/72155213-L.jpg

http://Pathfinder.smugmug.com/photos/72239905-L.jpg

http://Pathfinder.smugmug.com/photos/72182603-L.jpg

http://Pathfinder.smugmug.com/photos/74125206-L.jpg

Patti
Jun-20-2007, 04:26 PM
These are amazing!

philiphutson
Jun-20-2007, 09:02 PM
I'm a newbie photographer (just beyond the 'take pix at family gatherings' use of camera) so can you tell me what a Muench star is exactly? :dunno

Its part inside joke part technique. Muench star is the star affect that is in every one of the pics posted in this thread. The inside joke part is that Marc taught us on the workshop how to do it and Andy called it a Muench star (I'm guessing that he started calling that from previous shootings with Marc). The affect is achieved by framing the sun so that it partly covered by an edge and then cranking down the apreature to some where around f/22 that will give it those star points. On my shot the sun is just in the split of two branches with the sun being cut off on both sides by a branch. Its pretty easy once you learn to do it. I actually posted my shot because I couldn't decide if I liked the shot because of the composition or simply because of the gimick. A gimick doesn't make a picture but since I took it I'm to close to the subject (emotionaly) to decide which it is.
-Philip

davev
Jun-20-2007, 09:12 PM
Just after the shoot out last year.
http://davev.smugmug.com/photos/71277672-L.jpg

Not really a pure Marc type shot, but it's close enough for me.
http://davev.smugmug.com/photos/149843761-L.jpg

W.W. Webster
Jun-20-2007, 11:53 PM
19780

Patti
Jun-21-2007, 01:31 AM
Its part inside joke part technique. Muench star is the star affect that is in every one of the pics posted in this thread. The inside joke part is that Marc taught us on the workshop how to do it and Andy called it a Muench star (I'm guessing that he started calling that from previous shootings with Marc). The affect is achieved by framing the sun so that it partly covered by an edge and then cranking down the apreature to some where around f/22 that will give it those star points. On my shot the sun is just in the split of two branches with the sun being cut off on both sides by a branch. Its pretty easy once you learn to do it. I actually posted my shot because I couldn't decide if I liked the shot because of the composition or simply because of the gimick. A gimick doesn't make a picture but since I took it I'm to close to the subject (emotionaly) to decide which it is.
-Philip

Thanks for the explanation. They are terrific!

thebigsky
Jun-21-2007, 02:15 AM
Do you get special points if you line the sun rays up with lines in the foreground? :wink

http://thebigsky.smugmug.com/photos/212848765-M.jpg


Charlie

schmoo
Jun-21-2007, 03:27 AM
I :rofl'd at the title of this thread. There have been some great shots from everyone so far.

I've been hitting the sunburst button every time I've got my camera out these days. Thanks Marc (and Andy)!

Of course, the weather where I am is not all that great for clear sun in the summer. So you have to improvise when you see it. These are from last week-ish:

http://www.schmootography.com/photos/161568397-M.jpg


http://www.schmootography.com/photos/161569693-M.jpg

Otherwise, I've been cheating a bit and creating them at night. It's much easier (in that I don't need to half-blind myself looking into the sun) but I didn't know before that you can create the same effect by changing up your lens settings a bit. Rooftopping last night:

http://www.schmootography.com/photos/165120899-M-1.jpg

And other cityscapes when I was breaking in my new BH-40 and L bracket on Monday: :D
http://www.schmootography.com/photos/164530995-M-1.jpg

http://www.schmootography.com/photos/164537014-M-1.jpg

http://www.schmootography.com/photos/164976073-M-1.jpg

pyrtek
Jun-21-2007, 03:32 AM
Well, if you're going to cheat, so am I. :)


http://bertold.zenfolio.com/img/v0/p315228038-4.jpg

dkoyanagi
Jun-21-2007, 10:23 AM
http://dkoyanagi.smugmug.com/photos/158571333-L-1.jpg
Monument Valley, AZ

http://www.dkoyanagi.com/photos/165117602-L.jpg
South Window, Arches National Park, UT

W.W. Webster
Jun-24-2007, 02:45 PM
Sunrise, Wellington New Zealand, this morning

19847

Patti
Jun-30-2007, 04:59 AM
I gave it a try... I had to rotate the shot to upload to file size specs of 800x1200 otherwise the shot was distorted. How do you get around that with attachments here?
As you can see, I'm a real novice with photography beyond point & shoot at family events etc.

philiphutson
Jun-30-2007, 12:05 PM
I gave it a try... I had to rotate the shot to upload to file size specs of 800x1200 otherwise the shot was distorted. How do you get around that with attachments here?
As you can see, I'm a real novice with photography beyond point & shoot at family events etc.

I don't upload to the site (I just include from my website) but my guess would be that the size limitations are 1200 on the longest size whether its 1200x800 or 800x1200.

Pretty good I would just cover more of the sun so the sun is rounder and not as much blown out. But there is some nice points on the sun.
-Philip

Patti
Oct-15-2007, 06:22 PM
I finally got one on a photo day trip with a local photo shop. This one was taken at Rock Glen near Lake Huron.


http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a302/iburn4u/MuenchStar.jpg

CatOne
Oct-15-2007, 06:25 PM
From the Bryce/Zion trip last May...

http://blloyd.smugmug.com/photos/71878551-L.jpg

Terrence
Oct-16-2007, 01:35 AM
http://terrencej.smugmug.com/photos/204048270-M.jpg
Aspens in Glacier National Park

http://terrencej.smugmug.com/photos/203445132-M-2.jpg
The moon over Saint Mary Creek, Glacier National Park

pilotdave
Oct-16-2007, 07:11 PM
http://www.skydivingstills.com/photos/163634557-L.jpg

http://www.skydivingstills.com/photos/181158277-L.jpg

philiphutson
Oct-17-2007, 08:52 PM
I finally got one on a photo day trip with a local photo shop. This one was taken at Rock Glen near Lake Huron.




All right :clap

-Philip

gluwater
Oct-17-2007, 09:10 PM
Here's one I like. The hard thing with these is to have an interesting image with a sun star, not just an image that is interesting because it has a sun star.

http://gluwater.smugmug.com/photos/106017645-L.jpg

anwmn1
Oct-17-2007, 09:39 PM
I have a bunch of these-

http://aaronnewman.smugmug.com/photos/166285021-L-1.jpg

http://aaronnewman.smugmug.com/photos/205426388-L-1.jpg


Some even with people :wink
http://aaronnewman.smugmug.com/photos/171014269-L-1.jpg

http://aaronnewman.smugmug.com/photos/171062637-L-1.jpg

LiquidAir
Oct-17-2007, 10:52 PM
http://gallery.liquidairphoto.com/photos/202007177-L.jpg

Grace Cathedral in San Francisco. At full resolution this shot has maybe 50 stars between the lights and the sun in the windows.

dmmattix
Oct-18-2007, 10:35 AM
http://gallery.liquidairphoto.com/photos/202007177-L.jpg

Grace Cathedral in San Francisco. At full resolution this shot has maybe 50 stars between the lights and the sun in the windows.

Regards,

Mike

CavalierPhoto
Oct-18-2007, 10:53 AM
I got one of those on a trip to Montana last year. Didn't know they had a nick name :D .

And if you look close enough you can see my wife walking down the road.

http://www.cavalierphotographic.com/photos/98764983-L-7.jpg

stuffjunkie
Oct-25-2007, 07:19 AM
Color is really starting to appear here in Northern Illinois. I went for a walk yesterday evening and saw an oportunity to try this technique. i dropped my tripod and came home with this:

http://stuffjunkie.smugmug.com/photos/212770950-L.jpg


The colors were brighter on my monitor. looks like some calibration is needed...

scottV
Oct-25-2007, 09:16 AM
http://scottvickers.smugmug.com/photos/211346929-L.jpg
needs a little straightening

ehughes
Oct-26-2007, 07:12 AM
http://ehughes.smugmug.com/photos/101403097-M-1.jpg

hejjafish
Oct-27-2007, 09:16 PM
http://hejjafish.smugmug.com/photos/197192972-M.jpg

gus
Oct-27-2007, 10:40 PM
http://wadjelaphotography.smugmug.com/photos/122924211-L-3.jpg

schmoo
Oct-28-2007, 05:22 AM
I keep working on this, then putting it away, then working on it again and then putting it away... :scratch

http://schmoo.smugmug.com/photos/213886904-L-2.jpg

Kory Lidstrom
Oct-29-2007, 08:49 AM
Nice pics, people. :D

Don't forget, though, that shooting at f/22 often softens focus due to diffraction. Just a tip.

seastack
Oct-29-2007, 10:08 AM
I keep working on this, then putting it away, then working on it again and then putting it away... :scratch



Schmoo, if you don't mind input you might consider duplicating the image on a new layer, increasing the contrast on the new layer, masking it all out and then painting in the leaves turning near the center of the frame to give them a little more pop. Just an idea.

george-1
Oct-29-2007, 11:33 AM
Taken along I70 in Colorado.

http://george-1.smugmug.com/photos/212378569-M.jpg

(Thanks to the guys at Rocky Mountain Harley that washed the bike when they installed a new tire)
--
George

schmoo
Oct-29-2007, 11:34 AM
Schmoo, if you don't mind input you might consider duplicating the image on a new layer, increasing the contrast on the new layer, masking it all out and then painting in the leaves turning near the center of the frame to give them a little more pop. Just an idea.

That is definitely an idea. I have about 7 layers on this image with different masks, trying to bring out contrast and color in various parts of the image. If I get a chance and remember I might set this one up under Technique to get some more detailed input like yours! :bow

pathfinder
Oct-29-2007, 05:32 PM
On the drive home in the Dakotas.....

http://Pathfinder.smugmug.com/photos/207850316-XL.jpg

Antonio Correia
Apr-03-2008, 12:53 AM
http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/photos/217194156_SNwJq-M.jpg

This picture is some months old. Hope it counts.:D

No special equipment.
Just the "poor" 350 D and the lens I can't remember but it was with the 16-35 or the 24-70.
I think it was with the first lens as I was shooting with the other lens on the 20D.
Aperture: f/22.
Piece of cake :rofl

Antonio Correia
Apr-03-2008, 04:34 AM
Just a quick one with ... Canon G9, aperture priority all closed down to f/8.0
:D
I want to try again later with much more care.:wink Shot today, some minutes ago.
http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/photos/274200494_4rqN8-L.jpg

Antonio Correia
Apr-03-2008, 06:11 AM
I was digging in my photos and I found this one.
May be it's God showing his light ...:dunno

http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/photos/206572479_9n73i-M.jpg

Arnica
Apr-03-2008, 06:42 AM
and what about this ? :dunno :

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r52/AgNap/IMG_0338_800.jpg

pathfinder
Apr-03-2008, 07:18 AM
Muench stars are everywhere. Can you capture one with your point and shoot too??:D :D

Why yes, of course Canon G9

http://Pathfinder.smugmug.com/photos/252958447_LpABQ-L.jpg

Antonio Correia
Apr-06-2008, 04:17 AM
Who said that "Muench stars" are only for great and expensive cameras and lens ? :dunno :thumb :D

http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/photos/275409554_Pg999-M.jpg - http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/photos/275409026_cZUox-M.jpg

Antonio Correia
Apr-13-2008, 05:06 AM
http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/photos/278768177_RTwYz-M.jpg

The 3 point star...:D

coscorrosa
Apr-13-2008, 08:33 AM
Here are a few of mine (and here I thought all this time I was the only one dumb enough to shoot straight into the sun! :D)

http://photos.coscorrosa.com/photos/258993769_bFwBo-L.jpg

http://photos.coscorrosa.com/photos/266260740_bfETD-L.jpg

http://photos.coscorrosa.com/photos/213038364_35ZJn-L.jpg

Antonio Correia
Apr-13-2008, 10:32 AM
http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/photos/278887751_fFDJf-M.jpg . http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/photos/278886873_7Yew5-M.jpg

demarren
Apr-13-2008, 03:10 PM
Here is one from me.

http://demarren.smugmug.com/photos/279020820_UQT2e-XL.jpg

Eia
Apr-15-2008, 01:04 PM
http://eikon.smugmug.com/photos/210903681_VvF4A-XL.jpg

Antonio Correia
Apr-19-2008, 03:37 PM
http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/photos/281797839_9cdsu-M.jpg

samsplace
Apr-20-2008, 09:37 AM
Hi

One of our walking tours where we found this shot.

Thank you for looking.

Gil:barb

http://samsplace.smugmug.com/photos/280349339_BGCRq-M.jpg

OsirisPhoto
May-11-2008, 01:38 AM
Here's my 1st deliberate attempt at a 'Muench Star'...

http://osirisphoto.smugmug.com/photos/293174945_xyo2o-L.jpg

Another go around the same location, and also caught this guy stalking me.. :D

http://osirisphoto.smugmug.com/photos/293179589_LKCNR-L.jpg

gnooj
May-11-2008, 11:13 AM
A dogwood star.


http://gnooj.smugmug.com/photos/291338772_6Zc8t-L.jpg

bryanj87
May-11-2008, 12:14 PM
Do these count? I realized I don't have any good landscape shots with Muench stars. I'll have to work on that!
http://www.bryanbzdula.com/newpics/albums/userpics/Brooklyn-Bridge-10.jpg
http://www.bryanbzdula.com/newpics/albums/userpics/normal_Boston-02.jpg

kdog
May-12-2008, 04:53 PM
http://www.jacara.com/cpg144/albums/az_landscape/IMG_0044.jpg

Scott_Quier
May-17-2008, 10:59 AM
Eagle River AK, 17 May at approx 7:03AM

http://LoveNLaughter.smugmug.com/photos/296661489_zsxgR-L.jpg

Moni
May-17-2008, 07:43 PM
Rhyolite, Nevada

http://monicarooney.smugmug.com/photos/292831931_Aiq7M-L.jpg

Andy
May-19-2008, 12:02 AM
Tide pool, Isle of Mull, Scotland

http://img.skitch.com/20080519-m61e4nmkgbsij2i7c7dr7hsqy.jpg

gluwater
May-19-2008, 12:24 AM
Tide pool, Isle of Mull, Scotland

So am I the only one without a fisheye now?

sanaka
May-20-2008, 02:18 AM
My first intentional try at a star. I wasn't sure my P&S would do it, but I guess it'll at least do a sort of mooshy one at f8...

Monkeypod tree, Panaewa Zoo, Hilo, Hawaii
http://sanaka.smugmug.com/photos/298382361_XgdNN-XL.jpg

Peace,
Sanaka

ivar
May-20-2008, 02:21 AM
So am I the only one without a fisheye now?I think it is all one and the same lens :D notice how the fisheye shots are made by people physically around Schmoo? :lol3

schmoo
May-20-2008, 02:43 PM
I think it is all one and the same lens :D notice how the fisheye shots are made by people physically around Schmoo? :lol3

:rofl

Well, I can't argue that. It's a great lens and Dgrinners love to share! :thumb

Andy
May-20-2008, 03:18 PM
So am I the only one without a fisheye now?
It's a rental, from borrowlenses.com :thumb

gluwater
May-20-2008, 03:21 PM
I think it is all one and the same lens :D notice how the fisheye shots are made by people physically around Schmoo? :lol3
So Schmoo and the fisheye have become a kind of sun with the others in orbit :skippy :smo

Andy
Jun-16-2008, 06:22 AM
From www.usopen.com

http://img.skitch.com/20080616-b1iep8kbuxig4pykwrcasa1yuf.jpg

Awais Yaqub
Jun-16-2008, 06:39 AM
Thanks for sharing Andy that is great

Here is one i got

http://awais.smugmug.com/photos/243339924_s9fS9-L.jpg

ivar
Jun-17-2008, 02:15 PM
I got 2 stars in this one :D

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/315028472_s6Vzd-L.jpg

super star
Jun-18-2008, 07:11 AM
http://i26.tinypic.com/b627o9.jpg

davidweaver
Jun-18-2008, 08:07 AM
LOL...
Here's one:

http://davidweaver.smugmug.com/photos/303870077_rTPT5-L.jpg

jziegler
Jun-26-2008, 08:09 AM
Here's my first, from one of the Castles near Dahn, Germany. Click to bring up the lightbox.

http://jziegler.smugmug.com/photos/318019984_saRVa-L.jpg (http://jziegler.smugmug.com/gallery/5239095_Lhmvh/1/#318019984_saRVa-A-LB)

W.W. Webster
Jul-04-2008, 03:59 PM
Involuntary stars from protesting truckies

24222

deidrejohnson
Jul-18-2008, 12:19 PM
The moon was exceptionally bright here last night :clap

http://deidrejohnson.smugmug.com/photos/334194054_pXTZM-M.jpg

photosbyDan
Jul-18-2008, 07:28 PM
I just came upon this thread..and I have noticed this in Marc's pictures..I am so excited to go try this now and post what I get, I just have a few questions. So I need to shoot at f22 or smaller? I guess I never figured this out because I was told that diffraction makes things not as sharp past f16..one of my questions is should I be concerned about that..my second question is how to get the cool effect but keep from getting wierd discolored sun spots..I have seen some images with sun spots and some with out them..how can I shoot into the sun but avoid those?
Thanks in advance:barb

davev
Jul-18-2008, 07:53 PM
My latest.

http://davev.smugmug.com/photos/304670689_H2FzC-XL.jpg

schmoo
Jul-19-2008, 05:18 AM
My latest.

http://davev.smugmug.com/photos/304670689_H2FzC-S.jpg

Wow Dave I know you're a tall guy... where'd you find such a huge flower? :D

(Just kidding! really awesome perspective)

DavidTO
Jul-19-2008, 05:39 AM
I just came upon this thread..and I have noticed this in Marc's pictures..I am so excited to go try this now and post what I get, I just have a few questions. So I need to shoot at f22 or smaller? I guess I never figured this out because I was told that diffraction makes things not as sharp past f16..one of my questions is should I be concerned about that..my second question is how to get the cool effect but keep from getting wierd discolored sun spots..I have seen some images with sun spots and some with out them..how can I shoot into the sun but avoid those?
Thanks in advance:barb
It depends on the lens. Some will get you there at f11. The key is to have the sun partially occluded. :deal

schmoo
Jul-19-2008, 06:20 AM
It depends on the lens. Some will get you there at f11. The key is to have the sun partially occluded. :deal

Au contraire, mon frère? (http://muenchphotography.smugmug.com/photos/259176450_9fhM5-X3.jpg)

DavidTO
Jul-19-2008, 07:09 AM
Au contraire, mon frère? (http://muenchphotography.smugmug.com/photos/259176450_9fhM5-X3.jpg)


He used a cloud, dear. :deal



I think? We should ask him!

schmoo
Jul-19-2008, 07:37 AM
He used a cloud, dear. :deal



I think? We should ask him!

I didn't in this one, (http://www.schmootography.com/photos/307474251_KPomw-L.jpg) but I'm no expert!

...... Marc?????

davev
Jul-19-2008, 07:56 AM
Thanks schmoo.
The easy way for that flower shot .... hold the camera below it, and watch the shadow on the lens.
Snap off a few and see if you like what you got. (I know, I cheat):D

pathfinder
Jul-19-2008, 02:20 PM
I just came upon this thread..and I have noticed this in Marc's pictures..I am so excited to go try this now and post what I get, I just have a few questions. So I need to shoot at f22 or smaller? I guess I never figured this out because I was told that diffraction makes things not as sharp past f16..one of my questions is should I be concerned about that..my second question is how to get the cool effect but keep from getting wierd discolored sun spots..I have seen some images with sun spots and some with out them..how can I shoot into the sun but avoid those?
Thanks in advance:barb


Smaller apertures work better, but f11 or smaller may work for your DSLR, f16 or f18 almost certainly will.

F8 works for this shot with my point and shoot, G9
http://Pathfinder.smugmug.com/photos/252958447_LpABQ-L.jpg

Prime lenses give sharper, cleaner stars than zooms.

24 T&S f22

http://Pathfinder.smugmug.com/photos/308506276_jSy3N-XL.jpg


24-105 f4 IS at f16, 24mm

http://Pathfinder.smugmug.com/photos/305243358_HMvC6-XL.jpg

When shooting into the sun, lens flair is always a possibility. Good, prime lenses help to diminish the probability.

Antonio Correia
Jul-19-2008, 02:26 PM
... F8 works for this shot with my point and shoot, G9
http://Pathfinder.smugmug.com/photos/252958447_LpABQ-Th.jpg...
like here (posted before) with the G9 and also with f/8
http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/photos/275409026_cZUox-Th-4.jpg

Slinky0390
Jul-19-2008, 03:19 PM
Don't know if this counts cause it's a reverse star, kinda :D.. Nor did I intend for it to happen but I thought it looked cool.

http://slinky0390.smugmug.com/photos/334850614_ZTJM2-XL.jpg (http://slinky0390.smugmug.com/photos/newexif.mg?ImageID=334850614&ImageKey=ZTJM2)
Click for EXIF

photosbyDan
Jul-19-2008, 09:26 PM
Smaller apertures work better, but f11 or smaller may work for your DSLR, f16 or f18 almost certainly will.

F8 works for this shot with my point and shoot, G9


Prime lenses give sharper, cleaner stars than zooms.

24 T&S f22




24-105 f4 IS at f16, 24mm



When shooting into the sun, lens flair is always a possibility. Good, prime lenses help to diminish the probability.
dude thanks for the detailed explanation. I will definitely be trying this soon, then i'll post what I get. I really need to get more prime lenses....:rofl

David_S85
Jul-21-2008, 01:57 PM
http://davidwatts.smugmug.com/photos/335958961_hHC5b-L.jpg

Canon 40D, Canon 10-22 @ 17mm, 1/200 F/22 ISO400

An uncompleted section of the Lehigh Gorge Rail-Trail, Jim Thorpe, Pennsylvania.

Antonio Correia
Jul-30-2008, 11:50 AM
Canon G9 again.
Not perfect however... must re-shoot.:D

http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/photos/341965948_JPW5r-L.jpg

Marc Muench
Jul-31-2008, 07:48 AM
I didn't in this one, (http://www.schmootography.com/photos/307474251_KPomw-L.jpg) but I'm no expert!

...... Marc?????

Yes it is true by partially obscuring the sun you can alleviate the colored flares. However, the star itself will be full if show the entire sun. Also the wider the lens the better the effect.

The thin cirrus clouds wont change much.

Antonio Correia
Jul-31-2008, 09:42 AM
Canon G9 shots

1. http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/photos/342579960_T2YhB-L.jpg
2. http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/photos/342579610_qWeAN-L.jpg
3. http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/photos/342579125_LUCwT-XL.jpg
4. http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/photos/342578707_vvhge-L.jpg

LiquidAir
Aug-07-2008, 07:36 PM
He used a cloud, dear. :deal



I think? We should ask him!

I think the answer is that you want the light source to be small in the frame. If the lens is wide enough, then the effective size of the sun is small enough that you don't need partial occlusion. This, shot with a 15mm fish, has a bit of a star from the full sun in a completely clear sky.

http://gallery.liquidairphoto.com/photos/347332931_XMC45-M.jpg

schmoo
Aug-08-2008, 05:25 AM
I think the answer is that you want the light source to be small in the frame. If the lens is wide enough, then the effective size of the sun is small enough that you don't need partial occlusion. This, shot with a 15mm fish, has a bit of a star from the full sun in a completely clear sky.

http://gallery.liquidairphoto.com/photos/347332931_XMC45-M.jpg

Ken, WOW!! What a beautiful shot. Do you always carry around goldfish with you or was this from your LPS shoot? :D

It makes scientific sense. Wider angle, smaller sun.

Antonio Correia
Aug-08-2008, 05:43 AM
http://gallery.liquidairphoto.com/photos/347332931_XMC45-Th.jpg

One, among many, of the exquisite photos Ken usually shoots. :D

A pleasure to review.:clap :clap
:bow :D

I think that shooting direcly into the Sun accelerates the degradation/use of the sensor.:cry :cry

Antonio Correia
Aug-27-2008, 01:17 AM
Canon 5D + 24-70mm f/2.8 L USM

http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/photos/359705459_wKzUv-L-2.jpg

LiquidAir
Aug-27-2008, 02:44 PM
Ken, WOW!! What a beautiful shot. Do you always carry around goldfish with you or was this from your LPS shoot? :D



Thanks!

Call it a draft. I was thinking about goldfish shots for about 6 months during LPS and much of that time I carried a bowl and water in my car in case the light and timing were right.

dadwtwins
Aug-27-2008, 02:54 PM
http://gallery.liquidairphoto.com/photos/202007177-L.jpg

Grace Cathedral in San Francisco. At full resolution this shot has maybe 50 stars between the lights and the sun in the windows.

Awesome shot Ken:clap

I keep meaning to go this Cathedral since they are so friendly towards photographers. Now I am going to make a point of it, thanks my friend.

NounPhotography
Aug-27-2008, 06:13 PM
Here is mine I.. Tell me what you think:)

http://nounphotography.smugmug.com/photos/300557354_TANNA-L.jpg

schmoo
Aug-28-2008, 04:28 AM
Here is mine I.. Tell me what you think:)

http://nounphotography.smugmug.com/photos/300557354_TANNA-S.jpg

Wow I have not seen that particular star before! Which lens is this?

dadwtwins
Aug-30-2008, 02:21 PM
Ok, I stole the star idea and am loving it:bow

http://dthorp.smugmug.com/photos/361711394_uZ3hP-L-1.jpg

dadwtwins
Aug-30-2008, 02:26 PM
Wow I have not seen that particular star before! Which lens is this?

Let me guess, Nikons 18-200VR???:scratch

BeachBill
Oct-13-2008, 01:45 PM
http://gallery.primarycolors.com/photos/390609301_Loyip-L-1.jpg

Eyeful
Oct-13-2008, 02:06 PM
http://robotto.smugmug.com/photos/380310698_4AFJQ-XL.jpg

devbobo
Oct-13-2008, 04:04 PM
http://introversion.smugmug.com/photos/393519032_Y3P9w-L.jpg

Andy
Oct-13-2008, 04:27 PM
http://www.moonriverphotography.com/photos/392554288_7AeDD-L.jpg

ivar
Oct-13-2008, 09:35 PM
http://ivar.smugmug.com/photos/393741478_G7Qkk-XL.jpg

rukva
Oct-13-2008, 09:51 PM
http://lh6.ggpht.com/kurva.one/SCpjJI9_DUI/AAAAAAAAALQ/h5RN4bfHXx0/s800/Mungo_Trees.jpg (http://picasaweb.google.com.au/lh/photo/gnywo3sosk6zDZNA96cCMg)From <TABLE style="WIDTH: auto"><TBODY><TR><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD style="FONT-SIZE: 11px; FONT-FAMILY: arial,sans-serif; TEXT-ALIGN: right">From Some of My Stuff you may like (http://picasaweb.google.com.au/kurva.one/SomeOfMyStuffYouMayLike)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

greenpea
Oct-14-2008, 09:00 AM
http://initialphotography.smugmug.com/photos/393920256_LGkqD-L.jpg

Llywellyn
Oct-14-2008, 09:32 AM
http://www.theoriginalblackcat.com/photos/390829526_riQVD-M.jpg

kdog
Oct-14-2008, 09:39 AM
http://www.jacara.com/cpg144/albums/dgrin_moab/IMG_0300_1_2.jpg

schmoo
Oct-14-2008, 06:01 PM
http://www.schmootography.com/photos/394376844_d3mmq-L.jpg

Fred W
Oct-14-2008, 06:05 PM
http://photosbyfred.smugmug.com/photos/393591987_rbDCu-L.jpg

davev
Oct-14-2008, 09:18 PM
http://davev.smugmug.com/photos/394488970_74ZLY-XL.jpg

jamesl
Oct-16-2008, 07:02 AM
http://www.langfordphotography.com/photos/395398980_Ht2hp-XL-1.jpg

Taken along the road to the Maroon Bells recreation area near Aspen Colorado.

bryanj87
Jan-07-2009, 05:17 PM
This thread needs a bump!!!

Taken with a Tamron 28-75 f2.8
<img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1004/3172789282_83456a1711_o.jpg" width="1000" height="735" alt="2008-12-27 Huntington Gardens and Library_0063" />

BeachBill
Jan-07-2009, 08:39 PM
http://primarycolors.smugmug.com/photos/451075465_VJUXj-L-0.jpg
Just after sunrise, January 2, 2009

kdog
Jan-08-2009, 12:48 PM
Just after sunrise, January 2, 2009

:jawdrop

Good one, Bill! :thumb :thumb

-joel

Tango
Jan-08-2009, 01:37 PM
very clever Bill, looks really nice!

goldilocksandmy3bears
Jan-10-2009, 06:22 AM
I have seen some really cool pictures on this weddings forum that have a sunstar through a kiss (for instance) how is this done?? (Does this question need to go to be moved to "finishing school"??). Thank you!!
Courtney

Andy
Jan-10-2009, 06:40 AM
(Does this question need to go to be moved to "finishing school"??). Thank you!!
CourtneyAbsolutely not! Do it 'in camera' :D

Read this thread: http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=64419

Andy
Jan-10-2009, 06:47 AM
http://www.moonriverphotography.com/photos/430880661_qUNGo-X2-1.jpg

http://www.moonriverphotography.com/photos/364042001_QudLW-XL.jpg

http://www.moonriverphotography.com/photos/138526848_BJJN9-XL-9.jpg

http://www.moonriverphotography.com/photos/392546720_FVqZU-X2.jpg

goldilocksandmy3bears
Jan-10-2009, 07:06 AM
Absolutely not! Do it 'in camera' :D

Read this thread: http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=64419

Thanks for such the quick reply! So if I am reading correctly, it all has to do with the position of the sun and the aperture correct? Does it have anything to do with the type of lens being used??
Thanks!

Andy
Jan-10-2009, 07:15 AM
Thanks for such the quick reply! So if I am reading correctly, it all has to do with the position of the sun and the aperture correct? Does it have anything to do with the type of lens being used??
Thanks!
Any lens, really. Depending on the shape and # of the blades in the lens, you'll have different # of points on the star.

goldilocksandmy3bears
Jan-10-2009, 09:28 AM
Any lens, really. Depending on the shape and # of the blades in the lens, you'll have different # of points on the star.

So in order to make the shot work for the middle of a kiss it would need to be around sunset when the sun is lower to position the edge correctly right?
thanks again for your help! I just wish the sun was out today! ... my luck:cry

Robinivich
Jan-10-2009, 01:13 PM
So in order to make the shot work for the middle of a kiss it would need to be around sunset when the sun is lower to position the edge correctly right?
thanks again for your help! I just wish the sun was out today! ... my luck:cryDoesn't have to be the sun :D
http://robin-taylor.smugmug.com/photos/246392932_CU4ey-L.jpg

Any relatively bright light source will do :thumb

goldilocksandmy3bears
Jan-10-2009, 01:55 PM
Doesn't have to be the sun :D
http://robin-taylor.smugmug.com/photos/246392932_CU4ey-L.jpg

Any relatively bright light source will do :thumb

This might be a dumb question but this effect workds by putting the sun on the edge of an object how do you do multiple effects at once? How do you "edge" all the lights?

Robinivich
Jan-10-2009, 02:56 PM
This might be a dumb question but this effect workds by putting the sun on the edge of an object how do you do multiple effects at once? How do you "edge" all the lights?No such thing as a dumb question! I don't have any idea either. I certainly didn't need to in that shot, unless tree branches and window borders had something to do with it.

With enough light, and a small enough aperture, you should always get these stars from a bright light source. As far as I know, the technical term is diffraction spikes. They're caused by light acting as a wave and interfering with itself when moving around irregular shaped obstacles in the optical path, like the edges of our aperture blades, or the struts in reflecting telescopes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffraction_spike (cool picture in that article!). You need the small aperture for a couple reasons, #1 so that the blades get a bit irregular, and #2 so that diffraction effects are magnified.

I'd say this calls, like everything else in photography, for some experimentation! Thanks to weather I'm afraid I don't expect to see the sun again for a while though :cry, so you'll have to do the testing...

pathfinder
Jan-10-2009, 04:14 PM
You can buy flters that are a series of crossed lines in the filter that create these diffraction grating type shots as well. The you do not have to stop down so far either.

coscorrosa
Jan-10-2009, 05:27 PM
#1:

http://photos.coscorrosa.com/photos/369661565_TCDzn-L.jpg

#2:

http://photos.coscorrosa.com/photos/384842573_kzQgR-L.jpg

#3:

http://photos.coscorrosa.com/photos/323198996_iB3T8-L.jpg

#4:

http://photos.coscorrosa.com/photos/345511441_Laa3j-L.jpg

#5:

http://photos.coscorrosa.com/photos/432242608_UpmPu-L.jpg

bryanj87
Jan-10-2009, 07:22 PM
Holy shnikes Andy, that bridge shot is incredible!

davidryan
Feb-11-2009, 08:44 AM
I don't know if this one qualifies but here it is.

http://ryans.smugmug.com/photos/471886001_F2CUC-M.jpg

Robinivich
Feb-11-2009, 05:34 PM
I don't know if this one qualifies but here it is.Sure it does! Nice job!

Tharhawk
Mar-13-2009, 04:07 PM
I remembered this thread when I saw this photo of mine. This was taken high on a glacier in the North-central Cascade Mountains.

http://alpinestateofmind.smugmug.com/photos/490408485_6A7ni-L.jpg

jdryan3
Mar-14-2009, 01:46 PM
I remembered this thread when I saw this photo of mine. This was taken high on a glacier in the North-central Cascade Mountains.

http://alpinestateofmind.smugmug.com/photos/490408485_6A7ni-L.jpg

Sweet shot. Great scale with hiker and footprints, the unblemished snow, and that sun :thumb

Photopaddler
Mar-17-2009, 11:41 AM
http://photopaddler.smugmug.com/photos/493415828_Ux4RP-L.jpg

dlplumer
Mar-17-2009, 03:12 PM
I remembered this thread when I saw this photo of mine. This was taken high on a glacier in the North-central Cascade Mountains.

http://alpinestateofmind.smugmug.com/photos/490408485_6A7ni-L.jpg

Gorgeous, love it :lust :lust :lust :clap

NounPhotography
Mar-18-2009, 12:04 AM
Let me guess, Nikons 18-200VR???:scratch

Yep good guess!

Here is the picture again.. the link quit working:(

http://nounphotography.smugmug.com/photos/300557354_TANNA-S.jpg

And here are a couple more I took the other weekend:
http://nounphotography.smugmug.com/photos/493861058_UNfYk-M.jpg
http://nounphotography.smugmug.com/photos/493861059_8fqMW-M.jpg
http://nounphotography.smugmug.com/photos/493861055_xnbJ3-M.jpg

and one more:)

http://nounphotography.smugmug.com/photos/398649555_fuAzT-M.jpg

Yellowstonegirl
Apr-30-2009, 05:51 PM
I just found this thread. So many beautiful photos. Here's my first attempt at posting a photo. I hope it works.


The Tetons from Antelope Flats.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2260/2090618116_d1fa73cf26_o.jpg

Kristine

Katmitchell
Apr-30-2009, 06:16 PM
http://katmitchell.smugmug.com/photos/521834832_pecqF-XL.jpg

PHOTOempt
May-01-2009, 04:27 AM
just found this fun thread - some gorgeous images. here are 3 muench stars! light wasn't wonderful, and not exactly a fabulous image, but it was a rare opportunity, and it fits the thread description... cheers, sarah

http://photoempt.smugmug.com/photos/519072570_XXyHo-L-1.jpg

Pindy
May-01-2009, 07:30 AM
http://pindy.smugmug.com/photos/518280908_vpzeP-L-12.jpg

gnooj
May-01-2009, 05:43 PM
Here's a Muench Choo Choo...

http://gnooj.smugmug.com/photos/483238351_gMYKU-XL.jpg

schmoo
May-01-2009, 06:30 PM
Here's a Muench Choo Choo...

http://gnooj.smugmug.com/photos/483238351_gMYKU-S.jpg

Oooooo, I like! :thumb

Robbug
Jul-17-2009, 03:02 PM
Rush hour on the ferry in Seattle.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3513/3730092117_5fb93d3c89_o.jpg

Marc Muench
Jul-17-2009, 04:12 PM
Rush hour on the ferry in Seattle.




:clap:clap:clap

cmkultradome
Aug-14-2009, 06:23 AM
My first Muench star attempt
http://gyshwysh.smugmug.com/photos/619345758_Rbkb9-L.jpg

Stephanie

anonymouscuban
Oct-19-2009, 02:24 PM
Next time I will stop the lens down more!

http://www.thesotelos.com/photos/580066812_WaaMK-L.jpg

http://www.thesotelos.com/photos/579193885_PWbHU-XL.jpg

schmoo
Oct-20-2009, 11:04 AM
Next time I will stop the lens down more!

http://www.thesotelos.com/photos/580066812_WaaMK-S.jpg

http://www.thesotelos.com/photos/579193885_PWbHU-S.jpg

:agree it should help more, but still nice!

That cactus looks like it's waving hello :lol3

Tharhawk
Oct-29-2009, 12:35 PM
http://www.alpinestateofmind.com/Adventures/Mount-Baker-2009/JLH091004HeliotropeRidge0185/696629216_oMZgr-M.jpg

Skinning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ski_touring)up below Mount Baker in the blowing snow and ice.

Marc Muench
Oct-30-2009, 02:43 PM
:super
Great! now all I can think about is skiing! Nice image:thumb

Tharhawk
Oct-30-2009, 04:45 PM
:super
Great! now all I can think about is skiing! Nice image:thumb

I can't either. I've actually skied every month of the year going on 120+ months in a row. I have a sickness! And obviously can never stop thinking about it :lust

ipduffy
Nov-08-2009, 01:00 PM
Hiking on a late fall day in Middleburg, VA. Saw the sun poking through the trees and I thought I'd give it a try:

http://duff.smugmug.com/Vacation/Middleburg-2009/20091107-MG7616-Edit/707095779_7zefv-L.jpg

schmoo
Nov-09-2009, 10:57 AM
Perfect star! That's a really nice touch and it looks like it was a nice hike, too. :thumb

mountainpz
Nov-18-2009, 04:09 PM
http://www.zizka.ca/Portfolio/Best-of-Sports-Photography/MountHector200806230036Zizka/394715970_F7Prb-L-4.jpg (http://www.zizka.ca/Portfolio/Best-of-Sports-Photography/6210418_4E5FK/1/#394715970_F7Prb-A-LB)

AtlPikMan
Nov-18-2009, 04:29 PM
My First...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2431/4066254095_bae4d5f4b5_b.jpg

mountainpz
Nov-18-2009, 05:23 PM
My First...]

That's gorgeous AtlPikMan.

Allan FG
Nov-18-2009, 09:30 PM
One from my recent trip to CT.

http://alinbeaverton.smugmug.com/Photography/Pic-a-day/DSC9802/707259354_Ltxzg-XL.jpg

CatOne
Nov-20-2009, 07:44 AM
Ah yeah, forgot this thread. Mobius arch when I was scouting it for the next morning.

http://blloyd.smugmug.com/Landscapes/Death-Valley-October-2009/WKL8257/701346129_VFxbY-XL.jpg

Patti
Nov-22-2009, 03:28 AM
industrial light & magic


http://copperbee.smugmug.com/Street-Scenes/Street-Photography/LPW-6625-1/720417462_BLKqf-L.jpg

Patti
Nov-22-2009, 03:30 AM
on the grounds of Smugmug NY

http://copperbee.smugmug.com/Travel/New-York/NYC-Redux-2009/Hands-6/622683374_eMxaV-L.jpg

Tim Kamppinen
Nov-22-2009, 07:36 AM
Umm, does this count? Not a landscape, but...

http://www.timkphotography.com/photos/649607544_NXocY-L.jpg

schmoo
Nov-23-2009, 06:30 AM
Umm, does this count? Not a landscape, but...



Brilliant!

anonymouscuban
Nov-23-2009, 08:51 AM
While having a cup of java this morning:

http://anonymouscuban.smugmug.com/Random-Stuff/Assignments/Jen-14/721811721_fhkt6-L.jpg

Thwack
Nov-30-2009, 09:28 PM
Caught a star by accident, off the Moon though, not the sun. Took this last Saturday about dusk. All but one other photographer had bailed out since it was "too dark to shoot"… :D

15 second exposure, f/11, 10mm, ISO 200 using Nikon's 10-24 super wide lens on a D90. Cropped the shot to make the Moon larger so the star effect is slightly easier to see :


http://thwack.smugmug.com/Photography/Yosemite-Gallery/DSC0233/728696517_qAaSm-XL.jpg