Assignment #40: 40mph+

[Nikolai]

I'm sure everybody got enough profiles in their portfolio for the rest of this year. Let's switch to something more dynamic. Much more dynamic.

The new goal is to shoot dead ahead of at 90degree angle from the side from a moving vehicle that moves at least 40mph (that 60kmh for our European friends). To ensure safety, please do NOT shoot and drive. Ride a bus, a train, or ask somebody to drive you.

There are several goals.
One is simply try to get a sharp and properly exposed picture - which can be amazingly difficult. :deal

Another is to find a slow shutter speed that would create a zoom effect when shooting straight ahead: the central (farthest) part of the picture should stay sharp, while the periphery should become blurred. :deal

Naturally, shooting back is also a possibility! :wink

About same goes to the side shots. One is to get some nice sharp image. Another is to get a nice motion blur. And of course, there is a combo, when another object with the same speed is sharp, while the b/g is blurred.
Once again, the safety is paramount, don't try this while driving!!! :deal

And for those of you who live in the urban environment, a shot straigt up may create an interesting effect with the bases of the buildings blurred and the tops sharp enough.

One image per entry please. Add some description (what was your goal, how you did it, etc.), and if possible, some basic exif info.

As usual, fresh pictures only (meaning: taken AFTER you have become aware pf this assignment), moderate post-processing. No PS blurring!

For the rest of the basic rules and index please check out this sticky (http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=41800).

Let's get some speed shots! :D

[Antonio Correia]

http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/photos/163791293-M.jpg (http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/gallery/1587711#163791293-L-LB)
The EXIF is so much difficult to get now !!! :wink

[Antonio Correia]

http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/photos/163790056-M.jpg
(http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/gallery/1587711#163790056-L-LB)

[Antonio Correia]

http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/photos/163792434-M.jpg (http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/gallery/1587711#163792434-L-LB)

[Nikolai]

Thank you for the entries, first two are perfect! :thumb
#3: I kinda doubt you were going 60kmh or faster at the moment in this heavily populated European urban environment :scratch

[Antonio Correia]

Thank you for the entries, first two are perfect! :thumb
#3: I kinda doubt you were going 60kmh or faster at the moment in this heavily populated European urban environment :scratch
Yes Nikolai.
We should go at may be 50 kms/h but the road was good because it was narrow and the movement should be well captured.

Nikolai, have you ever noticed that the EXIF is wronge ?
Or, it's just me ?

The lens was the 16-35 and I do know it was set at 16mm.
The EXIF says the lens is 25.6 in 35 mm.
What does that mean ?:dunno

1.6 (crop factor) * 16 = 25.6 in fact. But in 35 mm ?

And how could it guess I am using a 1.6 crop camera or a 1.3 crop one ?
What I am missing here ? :dunno

Here it is late afernoon. It is now 8.45h or so. We are going out again to re-shoot and I hope to be able to post more pictures today, in a couple of hours.


The real difficult for me in this assignment was the shutter speed I could not low down because I was not using the NDF or the CPF because I left it at home.
:D:thumb

[Antonio Correia]

Bah ! Not a good work.:cry
The camera was shaking too much. :cry

Photo taken at about 70 kms/h
http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/photos/163872433-M.jpg (http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/gallery/1587711#163872433-L-LB)

[Antonio Correia]

The shutter speed was too low :cry

Here we were speeding a bit. I saw the tableboard and we were at 70 kms/h at that moment.

http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/photos/163871998-M.jpg (http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/gallery/1587711#163871998-L-LB)

[Nikolai]

I forgot to metnion that staight back shots are also a possibility :wink

[BeaKeR]

So what's the secret to getting these shots? I've tried doing this type of thing in the past but it has never worked out for me - I either have to shoot so fast that I get no blur, or else everything is blurred by bumpiness/movement. Do you just need a good road?

[Antonio Correia]

Nikolai.
Since the beginning I thought the photos to the back were possible.

Neaker,
May be the secret is a large car with a super suspension - remember the Citroen DS ? - or a trail like the ones used in films.

May be, and I will not have the chance to, if the photos were shot from a train for example. There, you could even use a tripod !


There is a clear incompatibility between slow speed for the expression of the movement and the hight speed, even relative, of the vehicle we are in. The quality of the road is also important.

Nikolai: no tips ? Or are you waiting for more proposals ?
:D

May be after 254 shots we can get one good ! Or 546 shots !

[Nikolai]

So what's the secret to getting these shots? I've tried doing this type of thing in the past but it has never worked out for me - I either have to shoot so fast that I get no blur, or else everything is blurred by bumpiness/movement. Do you just need a good road?

Well, first of all, you need a designated driver! :deal

Next, you need to do a little math homework with the intention to find a shutter speed and the aperture that would provide for both blurry parts and sharp part of the image. Depending on the time of day, distance to the potential frame subjects and the actual speed your parameters may vary drastically. I would not rely on auto-anything, full manual is the way to go. You will have to use all three possible parameters: ISO, aperture and shutter speed.
You can also try bracketing.

HTH

[Steve1962]

I thought I'd post this..........it won't count in this competition , because it was taken a while back .......... my wife took this photo whilst riding pillion on my motorbike ........
http://steve1962.smugmug.com/photos/138727565-M.jpg

[Antonio Correia]

Well, first of all, you need a designated driver! :deal

Next, you need to do a little math homework with the intention to find a shutter speed and the aperture that would provide for both blurry parts and sharp part of the image. Depending on the time of day, distance to the potential frame subjects and the actual speed your parameters may vary drastically. I would not rely on auto-anything, full manual is the way to go. You will have to use all three possible parameters: ISO, aperture and shutter speed.
You can also try bracketing.

HTH
Focus better be at infinity with the AF switched off for the straight ahead shot, while AF on and AI Servo On for the 90 degrees picture :D

[Nikolai]

Focus better be at infinity with the AF switched off for the straight ahead shot, while AF on and AI Servo On for the 90 degrees picture :D
IMHO, focus be better at hyperfocal distance in both cases.
Infinity will soften pretty much the whole shot.
Since you going for a relatively slow shutter speed (1/40s..1/120s), your aperture will be at least f/8 or slower (unless you're doing a night shot), that would give you a nice hyperfocal range.

[Antonio Correia]

IMHO, focus be better at hyperfocal distance in both cases.
Infinity will soften pretty much the whole shot.
Since you going for a relatively slow shutter speed (1/40s..1/120s), your aperture will be at least f/8 or slower (unless you're doing a night shot), that would give you a nice hyperfocal range.

An even better proposal than mine :D:thumb

[Antonio Correia]

http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/photos/164987500-L.jpg (http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/gallery/1587711#164987500-L-LB)

One rule (at least) broken. I was driving.
Shutter speed 1/30 f/11. (Sorry but it is a bore to copy the exif)
I was driving - and this for all the shots I am going to post today - between 80 kms/h and 100 kms/h.
CPF used on the 16mm with the 350 D.

[Antonio Correia]

http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/photos/164989572-L.jpg (http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/gallery/1587711#164989572-L-LB)

[Antonio Correia]

http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/photos/164988772-L.jpg (http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/gallery/1587711#164988772-L-LB)

[Antonio Correia]

http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/photos/164990322-L.jpg (http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/gallery/1587711#164990322-L-LB)


These were the best between some 76 or 78 pictures. May be if I shoot 150 I can get an excellent one ! :D

[Antonio Correia]

I have re-treated one of the photos.
I twisted the crop and made a little Smart Sharp on the end of the road.
Much better, as you can see. :D
The lens was set at 17 mm.
http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/photos/165001168-M.jpg (http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/gallery/1587711#165001168-L-LB)

[Nikolai]

Nice series!
But I'm really sorry you were driving. Man, all pics in the world would not justify losing one's life over a forum post. It is unsafe, both for your and for your fellow drivers. :deal
Please, PLEASE, don't do that again :bow

[Antonio Correia]

Nice series!
But I'm really sorry you were driving. Man, all pics in the world would not justify losing one's life over a forum post. It is unsafe, both for your and for your fellow drivers. :deal
Please, PLEASE, don't do that again :bow
Nikolai.

It isn't that dangerous.
The car is automatic and very easy to drive.

There wasn't any dangerous in any occasion for the others or for myself.
Thank you for your concern.

I was expecting to repeat tomorrow but ...:cry

[Antonio Correia]

http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/photos/166011583-M.jpg http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/photos/166011222-M.jpg

This one is not super but I like it because of the frame of the car, the woman looking ...

[mwalters]

Nikolai.

It isn't that dangerous.
The car is automatic and very easy to drive.

There wasn't any dangerous in any occasion for the others or for myself.
Thank you for your concern.

I was expecting to repeat tomorrow but ...:cry

Hi Antonio

Sorry, I have to agree with Nikolai on this.

If you weren't holding the steering wheel, or were looking at a viewfinder or even just firing the shutter, then this is dangerous. That's probably why the woman in the other car was looking at you...

Matthew

[Antonio Correia]

Hi Antonio

Sorry, I have to agree with Nikolai on this.

If you weren't holding the steering wheel, or were looking at a viewfinder or even just firing the shutter, then this is dangerous. That's probably why the woman in the other car was looking at you...

Matthew

This time I was not driving. :D

[mwalters]

This time I was not driving. :D

Sorry, I forgot you sit on the wrong side of the car in Portugal :rofl

Matthew

[MarkR]

I'm sure everybody got enough profiles in their portfolio for the rest of this year. Let's switch to something more dynamic. Much more dynamic.

The new goal is to shoot dead ahead of at 90degree angle from the side from a moving vehicle that moves at least 40mph (that 60kmh for our European friends). To ensure safety, please do NOT shoot and drive. Ride a bus, a train, or ask somebody to drive you.

There are several goals.
One is simply try to get a sharp and properly exposed picture - which can be amazingly difficult. :deal

Another is to find a slow shutter speed that would create a zoom effect when shooting straight ahead: the central (farthest) part of the picture should stay sharp, while the periphery should become blurred. :deal

Naturally, shooting back is also a possibility! :wink

About same goes to the side shots. One is to get some nice sharp image. Another is to get a nice motion blur. And of course, there is a combo, when another object with the same speed is sharp, while the b/g is blurred.
Once again, the safety is paramount, don't try this while driving!!! :deal

And for those of you who live in the urban environment, a shot straigt up may create an interesting effect with the bases of the buildings blurred and the tops sharp enough.

One image per entry please. Add some description (what was your goal, how you did it, etc.), and if possible, some basic exif info.

As usual, fresh pictures only (meaning: taken AFTER you have become aware pf this assignment), moderate post-processing. No PS blurring!

For the rest of the basic rules and index please check out this sticky (http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=41800).

Let's get some speed shots! :D

This was mad, crazy difficult.

I couldn't shoot slow enough AND keep the aperture closed down enough, to get a good blur shot.

On the plus side, I proved that the shake reduction on my NEW Pentax k100d is more than hype. Any pictures I tried to take with SR off ended up in the trash.:dunno

http://Hobbyist.smugmug.com/photos/166214227-M.jpg
Shutter speed too fast. No blur at all. :cry

Is the problem that I'm not going fast enough? Turn to the side:
http://Hobbyist.smugmug.com/photos/166214885-M.jpg
Nope! Going fast enough! Speed limit on 390S on this stretch is 65 mph.

Got a little blur here:
http://Hobbyist.smugmug.com/photos/166215159-M.jpg

And here:


http://Hobbyist.smugmug.com/photos/166215431-M.jpg

Well, thanks for letting me play.

[Nikolai]

This was mad, crazy difficult.

I couldn't shoot slow enough AND keep the aperture closed down enough, to get a good blur shot.

On the plus side, I proved that the shake reduction on my NEW Pentax k100d is more than hype. Any pictures I tried to take with SR off ended up in the trash.:dunno

Well, thanks for letting me play.

Thank you for playing, nice entries! :thumb

[Antonio Correia]

http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/photos/166592669-M.jpg (http://antoniocorreia.smugmug.com/gallery/1587711/1#166592669-L-LB) At 60/80 kms/hour - 1/13s f/2.8 ISO 800 16mm

[Nikolai]

At 60/80 kms/hour - 1/13s f/2.8 ISO 800 16mm
Thank you, nice entry! :thumb

[UP N MTNS]

Heres my try...
50mm 1/20th f16 ISO100

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/167244069-M.jpg

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/167242998-M.jpg

[emmalou]

That last set of pics is unreal...it makes me a tad dizzy!


Horrid rain on the West Coast this day....so the speed was about 50km
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/emmaloudawg/fallz3-1.jpg

[Nikolai]

Heres my try...
50mm 1/20th f16 ISO100

Very cool, thank you!:thumb

[Nikolai]

That last set of pics is unreal...it makes me a tad dizzy!
Horrid rain on the West Coast this day....so the speed was about 50km

Great entry! :thumb
Looks like a dangerous road, esp. during the rain...:hide

[SDJames]

Howz this? I thought I would also try Shay's 10:4 ratio...
http://seaviewphotography.smugmug.com/photos/167624590-L.jpg

ExposureProgram - Shutter priority
ISOSpeedRatings - 100
ShutterSpeedValue - 1/20 seconds
ApertureValue - F 32.00
ExposureBiasValue - -2.00
FocalLength - 17 mm

Actually, I had been experimenting and forgot I had the EC so low...:scratch interesting.

[Nikolai]

Howz this? I thought I would also try Shay's 10:4 ratio...


ExposureProgram - Shutter priority
ISOSpeedRatings - 100
ShutterSpeedValue - 1/20 seconds
ApertureValue - F 32.00
ExposureBiasValue - -2.00
FocalLength - 17 mm

Actually, I had been experimenting and forgot I had the EC so low...:scratch interesting.

Very cool, and I love the ratio! :thumb
I am only afraid you were driving...:scratch

[jdryan3]

Coming out of Utah into AZ - Virgin River Gorge.

http://jdryan3.smugmug.com/photos/168235212-L.jpg

[Nikolai]

Coming out of Utah into AZ - Virgin River Gorge.

I remember that one:-) Good shot!:thumb

[leaforte]

Playing Catch Up

These are all 'as shot', resized for smugmug

#1 90 degrees

http://tonymcguiness.smugmug.com/photos/168917088-L.jpg

#2 90 Degrees. Tried for a clear shot but missed my mark.

http://tonymcguiness.smugmug.com/photos/168917083-L.jpg

#3 90 Degrees again. I like the contrast of the far fence in focus against the near one blurred, for what it's worth.

http://tonymcguiness.smugmug.com/photos/168911477-L.jpg

#4 ...and finally, forward.

http://tonymcguiness.smugmug.com/photos/168911470-L.jpg

This assignment. like all the assignments, was a great motivator to get me out shooting, and creatively learning more about my equipment, but I have resolved that I don't really like to shoot out of a moving vehicle. But if the need ever arises, I now have about 75 miles of practice.

[Nikolai]

Playing Catch Up

This assignment. like all the assignments, was a great motivator to get me out shooting, and creatively learning more about my equipment, but I have resolved that I don't really like to shoot out of a moving vehicle. But if the need ever arises, I now have about 75 miles of practice.

Thank you for your entries! :thumb

I must say, the last one is not quite straight :dunno :wink

[z_28]

60 MPH, 100 ISO, 1/15s, f22
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t247/CameraSouth/IMG_0031-700.jpg

[sirsloop]

a couple oldies but goodies... yes I realize we're supposed to go out and shoot new stuff but "W". I ran across this thread and immediately thought of these two shots I took

http://87gt.com/picture_1704.JPG

http://www.jdhaesloop.com/tunnel.JPG

[Nikolai]

60 MPH, 100 ISO, 1/15s, f22

Nice! Good entry! Thanks! :thumb

[Nikolai]

a couple oldies but goodies... yes I realize we're supposed to go out and shoot new stuff but "W". I ran across this thread and immediately thought of these two shots I took

Goodies, but oldies... don't count! :dunno

[sirsloop]

Goodies, but oldies... don't count! :dunno

for your viewing pleasure and inspiration ;)

[McGyver]

First post, new member.
I know I'm bustin' both of the rules, but this one came to mind...(I was all alone on the road)
Last Sept, Tetons.

"I Can't Get Away"
http://lh6.google.com/McGyversLaptop/Ror-dt6p0gI/AAAAAAAABac/CIELZLINHb0/DSC_5492.jpg?imgmax=800

Thought it might spur some ideas for the members.
Look forward to participating in proper fashion later.

[Nikolai]

First post, new member.
I know I'm bustin' both of the rules, but this one came to mind...(I was all alone on the road)
Last Sept, Tetons.

"I Can't Get Away"


Thought it might spur some ideas for the members.
Look forward to participating in proper fashion later.
Weclome to Dgrin and to the Class! :clap
Nice shot, but, as you said - too many rules are broken :dunno

[doug pettway]

Wow. this one was tough...especially with any sort of zoom happening.

http://douglaspettway.smugmug.com/photos/250729488-M.jpg

and one at night:

http://douglaspettway.smugmug.com/photos/250729498-M.jpg

[Nikolai]

Wow. this one was tough...especially with any sort of zoom happening.
and one at night:

Thank you, Doug, nice entries!:thumb
Wanna try the 90 degrees ones? ;-) :wink

[doug pettway]

Thank you, Doug, nice entries!:thumb
Wanna try the 90 degrees ones? ;-) :wink

i was going to but other drivers kept giving me the crazy eye. :D

[silversx80]

Well, I took this shot after I read this assignment (but not really intended for the assignment :dunno ). I hope it still counts :scratch . The story, my girlfriend and I were heading to the coast a few weeks ago and I had my new dSLR for a few days. I was just playing with the settings and had an idea. She was pretty mad when I started setting up the tripod in the front of her car.


13 sec shutter speed, F7.1, 14mm focal length (28mm on a 35mm camera)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3283/2433083195_05d5313ec6_b.jpg

[Nikolai]

Well, I took this shot after I read this assignment (but not really intended for the assignment :dunno ). I hope it still counts :scratch . The story, my girlfriend and I were heading to the coast a few weeks ago and I had my new dSLR for a few days. I was just playing with the settings and had an idea. She was pretty mad when I started setting up the tripod in the front of her car.
13 sec shutter speed, F7.1, 14mm focal length (28mm on a 35mm camera)

Thanks, nice motion blur! :thumb
I hope you were not steering while taking this 13 sec exposure:-) :wink

[sdways01]

Finally the passenger instead of the driver of the vehicle when I have my camera with me. This one wasn't as easy as I thought it might be.

http://sdways01.smugmug.com/photos/396340610_VFvdk-L.jpg

[Nikolai]

Finally the passenger instead of the driver of the vehicle when I have my camera with me. This one wasn't as easy as I thought it might be.

Cool motion blur, thank you!:thumb

[Nikolai]

Oh, wth, I'd post too:

Canyonlands at the speed of Iso (and man he drives fast):

http://nik.smugmug.com/photos/396386631_9m73c-L.jpg