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John Mueller
Feb-07-2005, 12:06 PM
Dont know if this would be the correct place to put this or if anyone cares.
I want to share my lighting diagrams for those who are interested.
Hope this to be one of many.
I would like to see others as well.

http://MHJ.smugmug.com/photos/15502611-M.jpg

Nikolai
Feb-07-2005, 12:36 PM
Dont know if this would be the correct place to put this or if anyone cares.
I want to share my lighting diagrams for those who are interested.
Hope this to be one of many.
I would like to see others as well.


Very helpful!:thumb
Cheers!:1drink

Ann McRae
Feb-07-2005, 01:22 PM
Well, I care - this is the kind of info I need to get ahold of.
I have some questions - forgive my naivety -
what does the boom look like?
do you have a photo of your set up?

Can you explain how you meter your lights, and what you mean by combining for f8.

Complete noob wrt lighting!
thanks


ann

blackwaterstudio
Feb-07-2005, 01:39 PM
ANd what about us that can't afford professional setups? Were working with home depot stuff

John Mueller
Feb-08-2005, 02:37 AM
Well, I care - this is the kind of info I need to get ahold of.
I have some questions - forgive my naivety -
what does the boom look like?
do you have a photo of your set up?

Can you explain how you meter your lights, and what you mean by combining for f8.

Complete noob wrt lighting!
thanks


ann
Im learning all this stuff also,so my explaination might not be good.
The boom is an arm that attaches to a light stand.
This is for a two light set-up.
Meter each light seperate.Main @ f8 (adjusting power) turn it off and meter the fill @ f5.6.Turn both lights on then meter. F8 is my working number = combined iso 100 1/125s
Both lights (combined) should read f8. Turn down or moved both lights in equal values to get a meter reading of f8.
Hope this helps.

I'll try to get set-up pix this weekend.

John Mueller
Feb-08-2005, 02:42 AM
ANd what about us that can't afford professional setups? Were working with home depot stuff
A lot of folks work with less expensive equipment.
They should post their set-ups,diagrams and info as well.
I see that you did that in another thread..
The more people that do,helps others that want to learn all this stuff.
I had no lights 3 weeks ago and have lots to learn,so I thought I would start sharing my progress..

blackwaterstudio
Feb-08-2005, 09:39 AM
A lot of folks work with less expensive equipment.
They should post their set-ups,diagrams and info as well.
I see that you did that in another thread..
The more people that do,helps others that want to learn all this stuff.
I had no lights 3 weeks ago and have lots to learn,so I thought I would start sharing my progress..
I gotcha MHJS, so I'll post my setup here.

Here's a picture of my ghetto setup. Stuff can be bought at home depot.
Two GE Reveal bulbs, two reflector housings, two white sheets of paper.

http://jdsphotography.smugmug.com/photos/15513371-M.jpg

The end result after alittle tweaking in PC
http://jdsphotography.smugmug.com/photos/15510951-M.jpg

Nikolai
Feb-08-2005, 09:59 AM
I gotcha MHJS, so I'll post my setup here...

:clap :clap :thumb :thumb :clap :clap
SO far I'm aslo at HD/OSH level. Worked good for me:
http://nik.smugmug.com/photos/10360667-M.jpg

Cheers!:1drink

blackwaterstudio
Feb-08-2005, 10:05 AM
:clap :clap :thumb :thumb :clap :clap
SO far I'm aslo at HD/OSH level. Worked good for me:
Cheers!:1drink
Looks good, I'm gonna try my hand tonight I belive at some jew shots so we'll see how it goes. Any advice?

Nikolai
Feb-08-2005, 10:40 AM
Looks good, I'm gonna try my hand tonight I belive at some jew shots so we'll see how it goes. Any advice?The biggest issue for me was to get the (very fine, highly reflective and relatively small) target in focus while not getting all the unwanted "gory" details of the supporting material (like paper of fabrics). It's usually easy to get rid of with the solid stock objects (e.g. your sample), but if you start shooting necklaces and bracelets - forget about it, it'll take hours to clean one shot.

I got the best results from a sheet of very clean (keep the bottle of windex ready:-) glass and a white background (paper, foam, whatever) few inches under it. I used an empty aquarium set on its side on worktable and two halogen worklights from HD:-). Sorry don't have a shot of that setup.

HTH

blackwaterstudio
Feb-08-2005, 12:39 PM
The biggest issue for me was to get the (very fine, highly reflective and relatively small) target in focus while not getting all the unwanted "gory" details of the supporting material (like paper of fabrics). It's usually easy to get rid of with the solid stock objects (e.g. your sample), but if you start shooting necklaces and bracelets - forget about it, it'll take hours to clean one shot.

I got the best results from a sheet of very clean (keep the bottle of windex ready:-) glass and a white background (paper, foam, whatever) few inches under it. I used an empty aquarium set on its side on worktable and two halogen worklights from HD:-). Sorry don't have a shot of that setup.

HTH
Great, I'll see what I can do with it :)

wxwax
Feb-08-2005, 05:41 PM
MHJS, I'd love to see shots you've made with this set-up. Thanks for sharing your diagram, it's very useful.

tmlphoto
Feb-08-2005, 06:04 PM
Here is a pictue of one of my one light setups with a reflector. I've posted it before elsewhere, but just in case you missed it.
http://tmlphoto.smugmug.com/photos/9706585-L.jpg

Here is a picture using that setup.

http://tmlphoto.smugmug.com/photos/9721682-L.jpg
Notice the double catchlights. You can always figure the lighting used by looking at the catchlights. I can't look a portrait or glamour shot now without studying the catchlights. Its really easy to see if a softbox, umbrella etc. was used. You can tell about placement of the lights by how big the catchlight is and what part of the eye the catchlight is at.

blackwaterstudio
Feb-09-2005, 11:49 AM
Following along with the jew shots, hows this?

#1 Black and white (forgot to turn it off in my 20D)
http://jdsphotography.smugmug.com/photos/15606715-M.jpg

#2 Color
http://jdsphotography.smugmug.com/photos/15606722-M.jpg

#3 Coins
http://jdsphotography.smugmug.com/photos/15606734-M.jpg

Nikolai
Feb-09-2005, 12:40 PM
Following along with the jew shots, hows this?
#1 Black and white (forgot to turn it off in my 20D)
#2 Color
#3 Coins
#1 B/W object kinda blends with a background, prolly requires a different one.
##2&3 - nice. The only question is whether or not you want the shadow. If a little shadow's ok - no problem, otherwise you need to try the softbox and/or my glass thingie..
Yet again, on the objects that big and solid it's easy to handle in PS..

Good job!

Cheers!:1drink

Nikolai
Feb-09-2005, 12:43 PM
I like this thread! Learned a lot of "how to" stuff already:-)!:thumb

Cheers!:1drink

blackwaterstudio
Feb-09-2005, 01:01 PM
#1 B/W object kinda blends with a background, prolly requires a different one.
##2&3 - nice. The only question is whether or not you want the shadow. If a little shadow's ok - no problem, otherwise you need to try the softbox and/or my glass thingie..
Yet again, on the objects that big and solid it's easy to handle in PS..

Good job!

Cheers!:1drink
Yea I really like the B&W for some reason, I'm going to try some black background to see how that effects things.

John Mueller
Feb-09-2005, 02:14 PM
Thanks guys for jumping in here and posting.
Wish we had a thread just for lighting techniques.
As time allows.Ill try and post more diagrams,shot of my set-up and the results.
Keep up the great work:1drink
John