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Harryb
Apr-09-2007, 05:40 PM
Hi Y'all,

I keep seeing threads appear every now and then about how someone got hassled while shooting. I figured maybe if we started a thread where all of
these marvelous experiences could be complied together might be fun.

I've been stopped and hassled so many times I've lost count. My favorite happend in 2004 in NYC when I was shooting with Andy. Here's the post I made about it on the old STF forum at DPR



" Just got home from shooting with my bud, Andy. I have to tell you it ain't getting easier with the lad. We were finishing up and riding the subway to Grand Central. We were standing in the subway car reviewing our pics on our cameras when we were approached by the conductor. The conductor looked out of sorts and he told us we couldn't take pictures. Now I knew this wasn't true because I had checked the MTA website and the only restriction is against tripods which we didn't have today.

I didn't want to argue with the dude so I said OK we won't take any pictures. Andy told the man we were only looking at the pics we had taken already. This seemed to annoy the man and he left us. At the next stop the doors of the car remained open and then I heard a voice asking "please get off the train". I looked up to see two cops and wondered who they were talking to. Then I saw Andy get off the train so I got off too.

The cops wanted to know what we were doing. Then they wanted to know who we worked for. When we told them we were amateurs they asked where did we work from? This was easy so I let Andy answer "NYC we live here". The cops explained that they had received a complaint and had to check on it. We said Ok. They said bye. We got back on the train which was being held in the station until our interrogation could be completed and everybody was staring at Andy (that I could understand). "

Andy
Apr-09-2007, 05:58 PM
"I'm just a hobbyist officer. Just shootin' for fun."

Lots fewer questions this way :thumb

Harryb
Apr-09-2007, 06:54 PM
"I'm just a hobbyist officer. Just shootin' for fun."

Lots fewer questions this way :thumb


Never, never say that you are a pro.

Andy
Apr-09-2007, 07:01 PM
and the only restriction is against tripods

:scratch
http://www.smugmug.com/photos/14239494-M.jpg

tsk1979
Apr-10-2007, 02:33 AM
Had just shot this in Irvine
http://tanveer.smugmug.com/photos/84453986-M.jpg
Couple of old fellas came over.
Asked for ID, I told them I was a foreigner, and passport was in hotel room.
Asked to see the pictures. Were happy to see them. Then casually asked where I was from.
I guess they came because if you are in a parking lot with a tripod it looks odd to them...?

gus
Apr-10-2007, 02:49 AM
I get left alone :cry no one has ever pulled me up anywhere. Maybe things are a bit slacker over here.

tsk1979
Apr-10-2007, 03:45 AM
I get left alone :cry no one has ever pulled me up anywhere. Maybe things are a bit slacker over here. Here is where?

EDIT: Oh, Oz

dragon300zx
Apr-10-2007, 04:58 AM
Well I don't have as good a story as you yet Harry but I'm sure I'll get there. I do however have a cop story.

Last year while shooting some girls in bikini's I was trying to get them against the <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">detroit</st1:place></st1:city> city skyline (yeah I know boring but it was a client request) and one of the locations I was trying to shoot from was on Belle Isle. Here's the catch, there is no photography allowed at all on belle isle without a permit from the city (I knew this but I do alot of things I'm not supposed to

http://dehmphoto.smugmug.com/photos/70989445-M.jpg

Thanks to greaper for the proof). Not even for amateurs, if they see a camera they ask you to leave. Well apparently some one who didn't appreciate the slow down we were causing on the bridge with all the guys rubbernecking to see the girls in a bikini's called the cops. Up rolled a cop car with one of the greatest <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Detroit</st1:place></st1:city> cops I have ever met.

Cop: Hey guys what’s going on....
Me: Not much officer just taking some pictures for one of my classes (I have a variety of student id's).
Cop: That’s cool, I have to tell ya though your really not supposed to be here and I did get a complaint.
Me: I'm sorry officer I didn't know that :dragon
Cop: It's no big deal really but I was told I had to tell ya to leave, so do me a favor and just finish up soon don't be here all day but if your here for another couple hours that should be ok. I'll tell all the other guys (cops) on the island that I talked to you and to let you be for now. So just don't be here all day please.
Me: Thank you very much officer I'll make sure we finish up soon.
Cop: Have a nice day.
(dialogue paraphrased)

Moral of the story.... Always have girls in bikini's with you on your shoots. The cops may still stop, but if your lucky enough to get a male cop your odds of not getting hassled improve.

Photog
Apr-10-2007, 05:19 AM
I was shooting a documentary in Vietnam.

We had the usual government "minder" with us. I was using my broadcast gear (bigass camera).

So we show up at the location of what was a former US base. Plenty of US vets and tourists there with their cameras and camcorders. I get out of our hired van and start to head towards the tourists. Government official stops me, waggles a finger at me. Can't shoot here.

I ask the minder--why is it that the American tourists are over there in droves but I'm being kept here?

The minder points to my camera and says "because they are tourists...you are media."

So I said "if I had a smaller camera could I go over there?"

He said "probably".

:rofl

It was about that time that I wished I had brought a consumer camcorder with me. After that, I usually did.

I can't recall ever being tossed out of an area here in the US that I didn't anticipate being tossed out of anyway.

kdog
Apr-10-2007, 09:11 AM
Never, never say that you are a pro.
So would offering your business card to the officer be a no-no? :rofl

Cheers,
-joel

Bodwick
Apr-10-2007, 09:15 AM
So would offering your business card to the officer be a no-no? :rofl

Cheers,
-joel


He might just beat you to it....

TIMES (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/chris_ayres/article1632780.ece)

“Where are you moving to?” the officer growled. I told him. He reached under the dashboard and produced something black and heavy . . . an embossed business card with his name, badge number and mobile phone number written in a white Art Deco typeface on the front. “When you’ve moved, give me a call, I’ll introduce you to the neighbourhood,” he said. With that, Police Officer III + I Ralph Sanchez, Hollywood Division, buzzed up his window and rolled away.

truth
Apr-10-2007, 09:28 AM
Ironically yes, and it was outside Union Station here in Chicago. It was one of my first forrays in to the city with my new camera (first dSLR) last July. I was shooting the taxi's in this really wonderful post storm light and the METRA coips told me I could no loiter around the station. They wanted ID and to know why I was shooting. I happened to not have any ID but told them I live 4 blocks away which seemed to calm them down a bit. I can understand why they are nervous in the post 9/11 world and try not to spend too much time in one place around the station anyore. It's still one of my favorite locations to shoot as the architecture and human traffic is some of the ebst in the city.

http://truth.smugmug.com/photos/81379382-L-4.jpg

I still really love this shot and just wish I had the eye at the time to not get half a man in the frame.

dogwood
Apr-10-2007, 10:24 AM
So would offering your business card to the officer be a no-no? :rofl



You try handing a business card to guys dressed like this! :D

http://www.pbase.com/dogwood_digital/image/60838265.jpg

Seefutlung
Apr-10-2007, 10:35 AM
18569
During my tenure as a news photog not only have I been harassed for photography ... but I've also been arrested.

This is not a photo of me. This is a shot of an AP guy under arrest. The cops arrested me for taking a photo of them arresting him.

Across four continents I've been harassed, threatened, detained, shot at, attacked, chased and followed for taking snaps. But this was the only time I was arrested. And it was at a sporting event in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:placename w:st="on">Orange</st1:placename> <st1:placetype w:st="on">County</st1:placetype></st1:place> ... lol.

The Anaheim Angels finally made penant consideration (play offs) for their first time. The locals went crazy, ran onto the field and started running around, stealing the bases and generally just going nuts. The <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Anaheim</st1:place></st1:city> Police hit the field and started macing all the kids running the bases.

The cops restored order and I was heading out to catch my deadline ... when I spotted the police hauling off this AP photog. Instinctively, I snapped a few of my fellow colleague for the record showing the police shoving his face and cameras into the concrete corridor. When George spotted me he barked out some telephone instructions and I proceeded to follow his arrest ... when the long hand of the law attempted to block the camera and apprehend me at the same time (photo above).

Interestingly, the Anaheim Police were so completely anti-media, that the matter went to trial where I was found innocent. The DA then dropped all charges against the AP Photog.

<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on">Gary</st1:city></st1:place>

wxwax
Apr-10-2007, 11:11 AM
Geez, bunches of times, but never the high drama you guys enjoy. :evil

Harryb
Apr-10-2007, 12:46 PM
18569
During my tenor as a news photog not only have I been harassed for photography ... but I've also been arrested.

This is not a photo of me. This is a shot of an AP guy under arrest. The cops arrested me for taking a photo of them arresting him.

Across four continents I've been harassed, threatened, detained, shot at, attacked, chased and followed for taking snaps. But this was the only time I was arrested. And it was at a sporting event in <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 /><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:placename w:st="on">Orange</st1:placename> <st1:placetype w:st="on">County</st1:placetype></st1:place> ... lol.

The Anaheim Angels finally made penant consideration (play offs) for their first time. The locals went crazy, ran onto the field and started running around, stealing the bases and generally just going nuts. The <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Anaheim</st1:place></st1:city> Police hit the field and started macing all the kids running the bases.

The cops restored order and I was heading out to catch my deadline ... when I spotted the police hauling off this AP photog. Instinctively, I snapped a few of my fellow colleague for the record showing the police shoving his face and cameras into the concrete corridor. When George spotted me he barked out some telephone instructions and I proceeded to follow his arrest ... when the long hand of the law attempted to block the camera and apprehend me at the same time (photo above).

Interestingly, the Anaheim Police were so completely anti-media, that the matter went to trial where I was found innocent. The DA then dropped all charges against the AP Photog.

<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on">Gary</st1:city></st1:place>

Police don't like having some of their activities chronicled. The first time I got beat on by he police was way back in 1970. I had just returned home from 2 years in Vietnam when Kent State happened and the ensuing demonstrations. I decided to go out and take some shots of our local demonstrations.

It was pretty tense. I caught a good bit of flack from the demonstrators because they thought I was an undercover person for the city's Red Squad. My hair was much shorter (I was only out of the army a couple of weeks at that point) than any of the demonstrators so I kind of stood out.

At some point the cops decided to kick some butt and tore into the demonstrators. I was taking shots of the mele when a cop came up behind me and started beating on me his night stick. I saw that he was trying to hit my camera so I curled up and covered it with my body. He beat on me for a bit and then went on to his next target.

It was kind of sobering to realize that i had just taken my damage in my home "town" than I had in two years in Vietnam.

Awais Yaqub
Apr-10-2007, 01:19 PM
All the times once even in jungle :huh most of the time police say "UN office here" or "foreigners visit here " so don't take photos but nothing rude.

I am thinking to get press card which is not difficult here But i guess press is most unlucky here :huh:rofl

Once my friend displayed his College card to police man and said "FBI" and police man was like Ok Sir you can go :scratch:huh:rofl but i am slow in these things and every police man is not illiterate !

In Pakistan there are never specific rules ...

moose135
Apr-10-2007, 02:15 PM
I shoot a lot of aviation subjects around the NYC airports, and you might as well have a sign saying "call 911" on you. I've been questioned numerous times by various police departments, both on and off airport. Usually they are just checking me out because they got a call, and when I explain the hobby, they let me be. Occasionally I've been asked to move, but that's rare. I still get some who pull the "since 9/11 that's illegal" routine, but after a few minutes, when they realize I know my rights, the conversation takes a friendlier track.

My favorite encounter was at JFK airport, when 3 Port Authority police cars, and their armored riot truck pulled up on a group of 5 of us.
http://moose135.smugmug.com/photos/112768706-M.jpg

gmonkeh
Apr-10-2007, 03:04 PM
So would offering your business card to the officer be a no-no? :rofl

Cheers,
-joel

That's freaking hilarious. Anything else smart you want to say. I let the subject go, I suggest you do the same.

Photog
Apr-10-2007, 03:13 PM
Geez, bunches of times, but never the high drama you guys enjoy. :evil

:rofl

There was some local guy who considered it a badge of honor to be dragged kicking and screaming from any news event. :lol3 It could be a pet adoption drive and the guy would find a way to be obnoxious and end up yelling "I TOOK A BULLET IN NICARAGUA FOR FREEDOM OF THE PRESS" or some such nonsense (I think he did. actually...) as he got dragged away and tossed in the back of a crown vic for being a turd in general. He was a stringer. I don't think anyone hired him fulltime. He was mondo aggressive when it wasn't needed.

I've been in a bunch of places I really shouldn't have been and I'd get a raised eyebrow and some finger pointing and I'd just slink off with a "thanks for not cuffing me, officer" look. Occasionally the "getcher butt outta here" would be a bit more stern. But my experience has been if you're gonna work in one market for a long time, you pick your battles verrrrry carefully. I've had plenty of cops let me behind the outer perimeter of crime scene tape due to having a good rapport with them. Access is everything.

When I worked outside my market, I was pretty careful not to be an ass there either--I knew it could come back to bite the locals on the butt.

kdog
Apr-10-2007, 06:06 PM
That's freaking hilarious. Anything else smart you want to say. I let the subject go, I suggest you do the same.

Excuse me? I'll say whatever I want. You can go soak your head.

Harryb
Apr-10-2007, 06:21 PM
Excuse me? I'll say whatever I want. You can go soak your head.

:nono

Let's play nice now. I'm sure both of you could have found a more positive way to respond to each other.

Trish323
Apr-10-2007, 07:15 PM
Just 2 weeks ago I was taking some casual shots , paid of course, harmless open public park area at an outdoor mall. You can see in this shot the big lug wasn't satisfied with my reply to his asking me if i was a professional..I said come over here and take a look at these shots and you wouldn't have to even ask me....he wasn't sure how to take that and stayed there until I was finished. I mean you can see in this shot that I was taking photos to do something devious....gimme a break!

I blame you Harry..this was in your neck of the woods:dunno You've got the cops all spooked up there!
http://trishfahnerphoto.smugmug.com/photos/142791168-L.jpg

GREAPER
Apr-10-2007, 07:21 PM
I have never been stopped by the police, as a matter of fact I was outside our courthouse late at night shooting pictures. They drove by me several times. I would wave at them, and they would wave back. I took it that they were making sure I didnt get mugged. :)

http://dehmphoto.smugmug.com/photos/116328784-M.jpg

On another ocasion I did have a security guard tell me that I could not take photos of the city skyline from the public sidewalk because the building he worked at was copyrighted, and that they would not allow photographs. I told him that the copyright does not prevent me from taking photographs, just selling them. I said I could shoot anything I wanted from the public sidewalk.

He threatened to call the police.

I told him to go ahead.

I stayed in the area another half hour and finished what I was doing. No police came.

evoryware
Apr-10-2007, 08:32 PM
I was stopped once when I didn't know any better. I was at work and we had a new GM, GM in training, an experienced Sales Mgr, a Tech Manager, and an Operations manager. The store normally opens at 7AM for employees and 9 AM for shoppers. Well it was 9:30 and none of the 5 managers had keys to open the store. As this wasn't the first time, just new managers, I pulled out my camera to snap a pic of all the employees outside to the dismay of the the new GM who pulled me aside and asked me if I took a pic. When I told him "no", he said, "Good, I didn't think you would be that stupid, what were you thinking it would be a good idea? etc etc". To which I responded, "stupid is having 5 managers here at 9:30 and none with keys".

When he walked away, I snapped the pic and got him fired. It was a joke at first and other employees had asked me to take the pic so we could joke about it later. But don't insult my intelligence.


Around here I've found that post 9-11 many police are moving from dinky Point and shoot to SLR's and want to ask me about my lenses and camera modes. :wink I will be seeking a press pass for Manhattan and Westchester. I shot pictures for Dgrin challenge waiting in the subway with police around and no one said anything to me. I've been in Grand Central Station with machine gun toting troops and other police and no word.

Zanotti
Apr-10-2007, 10:12 PM
Not really the same, but one morning in Tampa on the way to work I was stopped and somebody rear ended me. The cops came and I hit a quick pic with the camera phone:

http://zanotti.smugmug.com/photos/86780448-L.jpg (http://zanotti.smugmug.com/gallery/1752369#86780448)

The cop got really harsh, read me the riot act for taking his photo, said he was going to confiscate my phone and give me a ticket, yada, yada, yada.

I basically ignored him, he filled out the accident report, and gave this guy who hit me a ticket.

This guys car:

http://zanotti.smugmug.com/photos/86780449-L.jpg (http://zanotti.smugmug.com/gallery/1752369#86780449)

I was a little sore for a few weeks.

Anyway: It seems he was on a public street, on duty, and in process of investigating an accident that I was involved in. I dont see how he had a prayer in holding me to it, but you nver know much hassle they can give you before they let you go.....


Z

anwmn1
Apr-10-2007, 10:38 PM
Does it count if I was actually in the wrong?

Before I got my dslr a friend on mine and I wanted to get shots from underneath some of the freeways that cross the salt river in the Phx area. Well they are on Indian Reservation and I just so happened to park right in front of the LARGE sign that said No Trespassing- keep out of riverbed- hazzards such as flash floodes, etc. etc.
After about an hour of shooting we head up to my truck and wouldn't you know it. Indian Reservation Police truck parked right behind me. He ran my plate, license, threatened to tow my truck, and fine me $1000. I pulled the 'college student taking pictures for class' even though I was not in school at the time and have never taking a photo class. I got off with a stern warning and have a great story with those b&w prints.

Second time I had just purchased my dslr and was taking some night photos in the Scottsdale area. Had the tripod out, long exposure, and all the sudden I am bathed in a very bright light as a squad car rolls up behind me. They said they saw the tripod and needed to see what was attached to it. We laughed and they continued on.

richtersl
Apr-11-2007, 06:00 AM
I got in trouble last year for taking this pic:

http://lrichters.smugmug.com/photos/67517552-S.jpg

It was at a local flower garden that sold bulbs for tulips, daffodils, hyacinths, etc.

There was a sign at the gate stating that photographers needed to ask permission for taking pictures. Since I had a dSLR with me I figured I'd better get permission and just let them know I was not a professional photographer. The woman in the office said it was OK to take all the pictures I wanted as long as I didn't use a tripod and that I didn't mangle their plantings to get a shot. I figured I was all set.

WRONG.

OK, so here I am sitting on my ass focusing on these tulips. I am nowhere near them physically to have mangled them. Some guy behind me is talking to another couple about how they're going to do away with their tulips next year (2007) because they were such a hassle for them to maintain. Then he corners me and wants to know what I'm doing and then proceeded to reprimand me for taking the above photograph. I told him I had gotten permission from the office to photograph here. "Well... you can photograph here, but you can't photograph individual flowers like you're doing."

So basically, this fool got his panties all up in a wad over me taking a photograph of some tulips that he's no longer selling. :huh

gus
Apr-11-2007, 12:46 PM
o o o wait i have been appproached now that i remember it.

In Harrods London. As i walked in i asked a guard at the door if i can photograph in there. It was clear that i was a tourist with my family & accent. I remember at the time he had a name badge that stated he was in charge or similar (something like security manager)

he said .."please do sir but we would ask you not to photograph where it has signs asking that you dont...ie the jewelry section"

I was inside in the food section that did not have that sign & most certainly wasnt full of diamonds when a poofy little jumped up twit with a girls voice ran up & bleeted "excuse me sir we dont allow photography in Harrods" I replied "well mate you'd better go & tell your head of security that because he said i can"

He again said that if i dont stop he will get security & i said "go for it"

Nothing ever came of it.

kdog
Apr-11-2007, 12:53 PM
"Well... you can photograph here, but you can't photograph individual flowers like you're doing."
:lol4

You couldn't make this stuff up! :rofl

Harryb
Apr-11-2007, 01:16 PM
Just 2 weeks ago I was taking some casual shots , paid of course, harmless open public park area at an outdoor mall. You can see in this shot the big lug wasn't satisfied with my reply to his asking me if i was a professional..I said come over here and take a look at these shots and you wouldn't have to even ask me....he wasn't sure how to take that and stayed there until I was finished. I mean you can see in this shot that I was taking photos to do something devious....gimme a break!

I blame you Harry..this was in your neck of the woods:dunno You've got the cops all spooked up there!


I'm guessing you were at The Avenue. they have questioned me when I was just carrying my camera and not even shooting.

Malls usually won't let you shoot in them. Back in NYC I was sitting on a bench in the Roosevelt Field Mall.. I was waiting for Linda and I had my camera with me. This insecurity guard came up and said "Cameras aren't allowed in the mall". I said "No, you're wrong. Cameras are allowed you just can't take pictures. You have around 4 stores here that sell cameras. Do you kick the customers out once they buy a camera?".

This confused the poor gal. She said "You should leave you camera in the car and we wouldn't have this problem". I said "I would but there's no security in the parking lot. It seems that all the security is here telling me not to do what I wasn't doing in the first place instead of watching the cars."

She gave up at that point and walked away saying "You better not take any pictures". :lol4

Bendr
Apr-11-2007, 03:58 PM
This insecurity guard came up and said "Cameras aren't allowed in the mall". I said "No, you're wrong. Cameras are allowed you just can't take pictures. You have around 4 stores here that sell cameras. Do you kick the customers out once they buy a camera?".

This confused the poor gal. She said "You should leave you camera in the car and we wouldn't have this problem". I said "I would but there's no security in the parking lot. It seems that all the security is here telling me not to do what I wasn't doing in the first place instead of watching the cars."

She gave up at that point and walked away saying "You better not take any pictures". :lol4

lol, Great story...

Photog
Apr-11-2007, 05:14 PM
"Well... you can photograph here, but you can't photograph individual flowers like you're doing."


We have a winner. :rofl

Okay, slightly off topic, but...speaking of places where photography is not...um...allowed, appreciated, etc.

Smash-n-grab thefts are common with TV news crews. A lot of us have elaborate locking systems, cages, and so on in the news cruisers, and some stations have policies that say you can't leave your gear in the vehicle even with those systems. So you have to have your camera with you. Always. Like, all the time. No exceptions. So when you have to use the bathroom, well...you can imagine the looks and comments you get when you haul your Bigass Camera(tm) into a bathroom stall.

"Are you going to take pictures...HERE?"
"a scathing expose on commodes?"
"are you ALLOWED to have cameras in a bathroom?"

So...one day somone called security on me apparently. He got there as I was leaving and didn't know exactly what to ask me. :rofl He just stood there and said, "um...you with the media?" and I said "yeah...company policy that the camera stays with me". He looked relieved (no pun intended) that there were no more details to be shared.

Trish323
Apr-11-2007, 10:49 PM
I'm guessing you were at The Avenue. they have questioned me when I was just carrying my camera and not even shooting.

Malls usually won't let you shoot in them. Back in NYC I was sitting on a bench in the Roosevelt Field Mall.. I was waiting for Linda and I had my camera with me. This insecurity guard came up and said "Cameras aren't allowed in the mall". I said "No, you're wrong. Cameras are allowed you just can't take pictures. You have around 4 stores here that sell cameras. Do you kick the customers out once they buy a camera?".

This confused the poor gal. She said "You should leave you camera in the car and we wouldn't have this problem". I said "I would but there's no security in the parking lot. It seems that all the security is here telling me not to do what I wasn't doing in the first place instead of watching the cars."

She gave up at that point and walked away saying "You better not take any pictures". :lol4

I knew you must have p***ed them off up there!:bow Love your story and I can vouch for you...it's probably true!

photodoug
Apr-12-2007, 07:01 AM
I shoot a lot of aviation subjects around the NYC airports, and you might as well have a sign saying "call 911" on you. I've been questioned numerous times by various police departments, both on and off airport. Usually they are just checking me out because they got a call, and when I explain the hobby, they let me be. Occasionally I've been asked to move, but that's rare. I still get some who pull the "since 9/11 that's illegal" routine, but after a few minutes, when they realize I know my rights, the conversation takes a friendlier track.

My favorite encounter was at JFK airport, when 3 Port Authority police cars, and their armored riot truck pulled up on a group of 5 of us.
http://moose135.smugmug.com/photos/112768706-M.jpg

Ah! I spy a group of Webelos Scouts...great way for kids to get up close to all sorts of otherwise off-limits gear/stuff.

moose135
Apr-12-2007, 07:59 AM
Ah! I spy a group of Webelos Scouts...great way for kids to get up close to all sorts of otherwise off-limits gear/stuff.
Yes, that photo was taken at the "Kids Day" open house at La Guardia Airport. The Port Police bring out all their neat stuff, and a few airlines have aircraft on display that you can tour, sit in the cockpit, and they get a few locally-based war birds to fly in.

http://moose135.smugmug.com/photos/99034258-L.jpg

They hold it every year, in September, and fortunately, you don't need to bring a kid along to get in. It's one time you can be at the airport, taking pictures of airplanes, and not get funny looks!

claudermilk
Apr-12-2007, 08:30 AM
I'm guessing you were at The Avenue. they have questioned me when I was just carrying my camera and not even shooting.

Malls usually won't let you shoot in them. Back in NYC I was sitting on a bench in the Roosevelt Field Mall.. I was waiting for Linda and I had my camera with me. This insecurity guard came up and said "Cameras aren't allowed in the mall". I said "No, you're wrong. Cameras are allowed you just can't take pictures. You have around 4 stores here that sell cameras. Do you kick the customers out once they buy a camera?".

This confused the poor gal. She said "You should leave you camera in the car and we wouldn't have this problem". I said "I would but there's no security in the parking lot. It seems that all the security is here telling me not to do what I wasn't doing in the first place instead of watching the cars."

She gave up at that point and walked away saying "You better not take any pictures". :lol4

You know, the urge to snap a shot of her would be nearly irresistible. Having a battle of wits with an unarmed person is not nice. :wink

TylerW
Apr-12-2007, 11:57 AM
:scratch
http://www.smugmug.com/photos/14239494-M.jpg

If there's anything that needs a restriction on it, its this jacket, not photography! :lol3

Andy
Apr-12-2007, 12:49 PM
If there's anything that needs a restriction on it, its this jacket, not photography! :lol3
:flip Now you've done it. You had to make fun of my apparel. Just watch, olde man Harry has nothing better to do that poke more fun at me :rolleyes

:rutt

dragon300zx
Apr-12-2007, 01:10 PM
If there's anything that needs a restriction on it, its this jacket, not photography! :lol3

Hey man that jacket was way cool back in 1970. At least thats what I heard, I wasn't born till '80 so I don't know first hand.

GREAPER
Apr-12-2007, 02:07 PM
I'd rather see that jacket than the tye died T-shirt and the afro....

:D

richW
Apr-12-2007, 03:49 PM
So why is it OK for photographers to hassle persons in authority (Andy), but the person of authority can’t hassle them?:scratch

If there's anything that needs a restriction on it, its this jacket, not photography!

Hey man that jacket was way cool back in 1970. At least thats what I heard, I wasn't born till '80 so I don't know first hand.
I'd rather see that jacket than the tye died T-shirt and the afro.... Don’t make me get my PR-24 (http://www.batons.com/pr24.aspx) out…:D

TylerW
Apr-12-2007, 05:14 PM
Only time I was harassed (and didn't deserve it) was when I was at the olympic stadium in Barcelona shooting pictures, along with some folks from work who had our Sony HDCam in tow. The stadium was under restorative construction and didn't want the location being published professionally while undergoing repairs. Understandable. I alone could have assured them that I was a hobbyist, but there was no way we could sell that line with the HD broadcast camera. They insisted that we surrender our cameras. I flatly refused. The then demanded our tapes and memory cards. I refused again. They made to grab our gear. I told them we were leaving and we walked away. It was time we left to make our appointment anyway.

Made me glad that the common word between english and spanish is "no."

DRabbit
Apr-12-2007, 11:29 PM
Either me alone, or me and my husband have been stopped in and around Long Island and New York. It's happened to us quite a few times.

The most recent time I can think of was when we were shooting film footage of Walmart. Walmart doesn't like that :D

Security approached us and asked us what were were doing. We didn't move (had big video camera mounted on tripod in their parking lot) and just said were were shooting footage for a amateur film contest, nothing deragatory just something fun. Security guard told us that we're not allowed and to get off the property.

We complied.... we merely moved out onto the public street and shot from the car.

http://www.dangrabbit.com/photography/albums/Shares/vis_grab01.jpg

BigAl
Apr-13-2007, 12:13 AM
Twice, once in the airport building in Istanbul. I'd asked a policeman if I could take some pics and he said no problem. Three shots later 3 more jumped on me and told me I couldn't take pics here (just put my camera away and said sorry sirs). After the bustle of the streets of Istanbul (http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=48468), I couldn't believe how quiet the airport was:

http://bigal-sa.smugmug.com/photos/112608092-M.jpg


Once at the heronry on campus at my university. I was told to leave the area, not because I was taking pics, but for my own safety, as several students had been mugged in the vicinity in recent times and noone was allowed in the area now without an escort :cry

http://bigal-sa.smugmug.com/photos/45385082-M.jpg

Harryb
Apr-14-2007, 12:18 AM
:flip Now you've done it. You had to make fun of my apparel. Just watch, olde man Harry has nothing better to do that poke more fun at me :rolleyes

:rutt

Heck, since I retired I have to find something to do with all that free time. :ivar

Andy was real nice with that jacket too. When he bought a new one he tried to give it to a homeless gent. The homeless guy refused it, said something about being poor but still having some pride left.
:lol4

If you think that jacket was bad check out Andy's hat

http://www.pbase.com/hpb/image/24978244.jpg

ed_h
Apr-14-2007, 12:54 AM
China late 80's while taking pictures of several army motorcycles which i believe trace their lineage back to prewar BMW's everybody and i mean everybody shook their hands at me in a no-no fashion.
ed

Pezpix
May-04-2007, 01:45 AM
Just a quick sort of off-topic story here...
Every once and awhile while traveling through airports, I used to get the questions about lugging around my 400 2.8 in its hard case... almost to the point that it became a total red flag whenever I'd travel. If I had it, you could bet that I was gonna have to do an extended frisking at the airport. Blah!

So, to offset that problem, I started lugging around the Think tank airport security bag. Since then, no problems. Well, that's not true actually... ever try to store that sucker in an overhead compartment? Talk about needing some serious strength LOL

Other than that, I've only had a couple of negative encounters with my camera while shooting.

One, was at the Montage Resort in Laguna Beach while taking photos of some flowers on the public sidewalk. Apparantly, the security there is ever-watchful of celebrity hunters and paparazi scum errrrr photographers. Well, long story short, I was asked to show them some of my photos. But all in all, it was no big deal. I was a bit perturbed that I was on a public sidewalk and they still asked what my deal was.

I'm still waiting for that day that some kook security guard bulldogs me while while I lug around the Sigzilla 200-500 behemoth :rofl

Seefutlung
May-04-2007, 08:34 AM
One, was at the Montage Resort in Laguna Beach while taking photos of some flowers on the public sidewalk. Apparantly, the security there is ever-watchful of celebrity hunters and paparazi scum errrrr photographers. Well, long story short, I was asked to show them some of my photos. But all in all, it was no big deal. I was a bit perturbed that I was on a public sidewalk and they still asked what my deal was.

I'm still waiting for that day that some kook security guard bulldogs me while while I lug around the Sigzilla 200-500 behemoth :rofl

Maybe it's not the lens case but those fuses hanging from your shoes .. I had the same problem at the Montage. SMCHS Senior Prom and we all took snaps from the cliff tops ... while the limo was loading up security started to hassel me "Are you a professional?" "No." "Yes you are ... look at your cameras ..." "Then why did you ask if you know the answer." "We don't allow professionals..." "I'm not a professional." "Come with me." "No I'm busy." Et cetera.

Gary

moose135
May-04-2007, 08:52 AM
Maybe it's not the lens case but those fuses hanging from your shoes .. I had the same problem at the Montage. SMCHS Senior Prom and we all took snaps from the cliff tops ... while the limo was loading up security started to hassel me "Are you a professional?" "No." "Yes you are ... look at your cameras ..." "Then why did you ask if you know the answer." "We don't allow professionals..." "I'm not a professional." "Come with me." "No I'm busy." Et cetera.

Gary
I've had similar comments made when going to sporting events (NY Mets or Islanders) with the 30D and one of my big white lenses. Mostly I get comments like "nice camera" but now and then they'll say "I'm not sure you can bring that in". My usual response of "I always do!" normally gets me in, and I've never actually been refused entry. What I would like to say is "You're checking bags at the door dummy, if you don't know the rules, what exactly are you doing here?" but I figure that would be a good way to get thrown out :huh

I did have one guy at the Nassau Coliseum (home of the Islanders) ask if it was a "professional camera" (the coliseum website specifically prohibits them - whatever that might be) and I said "No, I'm not a professional, it can't be!".

Of course, the people with the little point & shoot cameras, that can shoot video, have no problem, despite the big signs prohibiting video recordings at the events.:scratch

Pezpix
May-04-2007, 12:44 PM
Maybe it's not the lens case but those fuses hanging from your shoes .. I had the same problem at the Montage. SMCHS Senior Prom and we all took snaps from the cliff tops ... while the limo was loading up security started to hassel me "Are you a professional?" "No." "Yes you are ... look at your cameras ..." "Then why did you ask if you know the answer." "We don't allow professionals..." "I'm not a professional." "Come with me." "No I'm busy." Et cetera.

Gary

Heh, I see the "Shoot/ Get married and run" wedding parties hit up the Montage all the time and they never seem to get into any difficulties from the staff. It sure seems like a nice and cheap way to do it too!

I've even gone so far as to announce to the security that I was gonna be there shooting flowers or scenery on occasion. Needless to say though, I've always wondered though, if they have legal rights to harrass anyone if its a public sidewalk, that just happens to go through the resort property.

Also, I've always wondered the legalities of making pros pay fees at places like Little Corona beach where the portrait/model/wedding photographers take their shots.