smugdav

[DavidTO]

Well, I'm just savvy enought to be able to log into the webdav version of smugmug. Not sure what to do with it, though. I opened one of my images remotely. That was cool.

Anyone have any ideas about how this could be really useful?

[onethumb]

Well, I'm just savvy enought to be able to log into the webdav version of smugmug. Not sure what to do with it, though. I opened one of my images remotely. That was cool.

Anyone have any ideas about how this could be really useful?

Glad someone found it. :)

In it's current form (ie, READ ONLY), it's mainly intended as an easy backup method. Select the folder(s) you want, and copy them to your local drive. Boom, instant local backup.

Especially useful if you lost your local copy of your files to a HD crash or something.

Once it's not read-only, though, it could be an easy bulk-uploading method as well as an organization and album/category/subcategory creation tool. We'll get there.

Don

[DavidTO]

Glad someone found it. :)

Do I get a prize?



In it's current form (ie, READ ONLY), it's mainly intended as an easy backup method. Select the folder(s) you want, and copy them to your local drive. Boom, instant local backup.

Especially useful if you lost your local copy of your files to a HD crash or something.

Once it's not read-only, though, it could be an easy bulk-uploading method as well as an organization and album/category/subcategory creation tool. We'll get there.

Don

Very cool. Won't it be exceptionally easy to screw things up when bulk-uploading or messing with the organization?

[rainforest1155]

Whhoooohoow!! :clap That really rocks! I always imagined some sort of ftp-tool to manage images. Nikolai's SE was the first step and this is even greater especially to download images!

Is it correct, that downloading stuff over the dav-engine does not create traffic in my statistics? Would be great if I need a big chunk of originals one day, but I don't hope this will be necessary.

Also found a bug: Categories containing galleries with special characters (+,ü,ö,ä etc.) can't be viewed...there's an unknown error.

I am really happy to have this feature! In combination with the copy feature it's like christmas again! :thumb
Thanks for your outstanding work! I like such suprises :deal

Best whishes to the smugmug team,
Sebastian

[Nikolai]

Can't find it.. :-(:dunno
Probably a sign of a permanent brain damage..:scratch
Hints/directions, please? :bow
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EDIT:
nevermind, found it: http://www.smugmug.com/hack/webdav-overview

[DavidTO]

Can't find it.. :-(:dunno
Probably a sign of a permanent brain damage..:scratch
Hints/directions, please? :bow

here (http://www.smugmug.com/hack/webdav-Windows-XP)

[Nikolai]

here (http://www.smugmug.com/hack/webdav-Windows-XP)Wicked timing, man- split second after I found it myself:-)
Cheers!:1drink

[Nikolai]

Good job, Don!:thumb

[onethumb]

Very cool. Won't it be exceptionally easy to screw things up when bulk-uploading or messing with the organization?

Not if I write it correctly. I suppose it's possible someone will end up with photos in the wrong place, but that can easily happen with the current tools.

As long as no photos get *lost*, I'll consider it to be a success. :)

Don

[DavidTO]

Not if I write it correctly. I suppose it's possible someone will end up with photos in the wrong place, but that can easily happen with the current tools.

As long as no photos get *lost*, I'll consider it to be a success. :)

Don

So no prize, eh?

Darn. I thought I mighta finally won something.

[Baldy]

My hint about the Roach Hotel in the other thread came from a conference we attended. Developers there said they won't use photo sharing sites because they're like the Roach Hotel — Roaches check in but they don't check out.

Then someone sat down beside us and got all passionate about webdav and onethumb started thinking, "hmmmm...."

[Noggin]

OK, so I follow the instructions to enable Smugdav and create a network connection.

I can get a list of the category folders but any attempt to open one results in the error message "The current operation cannot be completed because an unexpected error has occurred".

Where do I enter my Smugmug login details to get access to my account?

:scratch

Iain

[Nir]

OK, so I follow the instructions to enable Smugdav and create a network connection.
I can get a list of the category folders but any attempt to open one results in the error message "The current operation cannot be completed because an unexpected error has occurred".
Where do I enter my Smugmug login details to get access to my account?

:scratch
Iain
Couldn't have phrased the question better!

[onethumb]

OK, so I follow the instructions to enable Smugdav and create a network connection.

I can get a list of the category folders but any attempt to open one results in the error message "The current operation cannot be completed because an unexpected error has occurred".

Where do I enter my Smugmug login details to get access to my account?

:scratch

Iain

When you create the network connection, it should popup a window asking for a login & password.

Simply enter your smugmug login info (email and password), and it should work fine.

If it doesn't, you may have found a bug. This is pretty rough software at this point, so it might be buggy. I'm not having any problems, but that doesn't mean you won't. :)

Don

[T4Tots]

Well that's convenient and works great!

[rainforest1155]

When you create the network connection, it should popup a window asking for a login & password. As far as I remember it didn't ask me for my account details, but I assumed it used the hashed smugmug login from my internet explorer.
Isn't it so, that the build-in DAV-Tool from Win2000/XP uses the IE to access the data?! Then this would be logical, wouldn't it? :dunno

[Noggin]

When you create the network connection, it should popup a window asking for a login & password.

That is what I would have expected, but no! :uhoh

I normally use Firefox, so just checked that IE has my Smugmug details and the problem is still there :cry

I guess I'll just have to wait, or perhaps dig a bit deeper :scratch

Thanks anyway,

Iain

[onethumb]

As far as I remember it didn't ask me for my account details, but I assumed it used the hashed smugmug login from my internet explorer.
Isn't it so, that the build-in DAV-Tool from Win2000/XP uses the IE to access the data?! Then this would be logical, wouldn't it? :dunno

No, it doesn't use IE's data.

Might want to delete the Network Connection you built from smugmug and start over.

I've done this on a bunch of machines now, and they all pop up a dialog box asking for the username/password. If yours doesn't, it might be some obscure setting somewhere that I don't know of, but I haven't seen it on Windows or the Mac.

Note that no-one has tried it on Win2K, that I know of, just WinXP.

Don

[Noggin]

I've deleted and recreated several times - all with the same result, no password dialog.

I'm running XP Home with Norton Internet Security firewall enabled and Windows firewall disabled.

Iain

[Noggin]

Problem solved!! :clap

I download this MS update (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=17c36612-632e-4c04-9382-987622ed1d64&displaylang=en) and it works a treat - without ever prompting for a password :scratch

Iain

[rainforest1155]

I've done this on a bunch of machines now, and they all pop up a dialog box asking for the username/password. If yours doesn't, it might be some obscure setting somewhere that I don't know of, but I haven't seen it on Windows or the Mac.

Note that no-one has tried it on Win2K, that I know of, just WinXP.Can't remember if it asked me or not, but I tried it again (deleting+creating) and there was no login window.
What so ever...I'm just happy that it works and even though I'm using Win2000. :clap

Sebastian

[Nir]

Problem solved!! :clap

I download this MS update (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=17c36612-632e-4c04-9382-987622ed1d64&displaylang=en) and it works a treat - without ever prompting for a password :scratch

IainDeleted the network connection.
Installed the MS Update.
Rebooted PC.
Installed new network connection.
Did NOT get a popup screen for username & password.
When I connect I get a folder with a list of categories. If I double click a category under which I do NOT have any photos, an empty folder opens.

If I double click a category under which I DO have photos I get - Documents in this folder are not available. The folder may have been moved or deleted, or network problems may be preventing a connection to the server.

Windows XP Professional Version 2002, Service Pack 2

Suggestions?

[Noggin]

Nir,

Try a few other categories, some of mine return an error as yours do, others come up empty (when they are not) and I have a gallery appearing where it shouldn't (although it also appears correctly where it really is!).

I have recently been re-organising some categories, sub-categories and galleries, is there perhaps a caching problem?

Looks like there may be a bit more to be done to the underlying code :scratch

Looks good though, good work all concerned,

Iain

[renstar]

I've done some testing on the login prompt issue. I found that when I am logged in to smugmug on IE, when I create the webdav connection (windows xp) it does not prompt for a password.

I log out of smugmug in IE and I get prompted. I havn't tried to see what happens to an existing connection when logged out.

I have access to two accounts, mine and my mothers, and I tried this with both. When logged in as her, i get her account through webdav, when logged in as me, i get my account.

Onethumb, in my experiences with webdav, there should be a way to have the address you log in to include the username so that it is something like:
https://upload.smugmug.com/renstar
instead of:
https://upload.smugmug.com/smugdav.mg
I would much prefer something like that before write access is allowed.

Also, for windows xp users, if you want to use multiple accounts and arn't getting prompted for a password, there is a program called WebDrive that manages webdav connections.

For OSX, a program called Goliath does the same thing, and i think it uses SSL, unlike the OSX method mentioned on smugmug.

FWIW, firefox has no effect on this.

renstar
renstar.smugmug.com

[Nikolai]

thanks:thumb
Cheers!:1drink

[Nir]

I've done some testing on the login prompt issue. I found that when I am logged in to smugmug on IE, when I create the webdav connection (windows xp) it does not prompt for a password...
Thanks for the tip! I think I am almost always logged in even though IE was closed. I will only be able to try it Sunday - I'll let you know.

[devbobo]

Hi All,


Here's how you do the login without having to worry about the login prompt...

https://[username]|[password]@upload.smugmug.com/smugdav.mg


Now, with the , you need to replace the '@' with '@' (the HTML ascii equivalent)


so, here's an example...

https://fred.bloggs@hotmail.com|smugmug@upload.smugmug.com/smugdav.mg


Note: you will have to hover over the links to see the full url


Hope this helps,


David

[marlinspike]

Well, I'm logged out of my account on smugmug and logged in on IE, and I got no password prompt.
Richard

[Michael Allen]

I'm on xp pro and using firefox and it took me right to my account, haven't tried to upload yet but it looks good, think I'll like this.

[onethumb]

Hi All,


Here's how you do the login without having to worry about the login prompt...

https://[username]|[password]@upload.smugmug.com/smugdav.mg


Now, with the , you need to replace the '@' with '@' (the HTML ascii equivalent)


so, here's an example...

https://fred.bloggs@hotmail.com|smugmug@upload.smugmug.com/smugdav.mg


Note: you will have to hover over the links to see the full url


Hope this helps,


David

Also note that an undocumented 'trick' is that smugmug allows you to use your NickName as your username, not just your Email. So you don't need the @ at all, if you're clever. :)

This works for smugDAV too.

Don

[Noggin]

I am experiencing the strange effect of Galleries (and photos therein) in a Subcategory appearing at both the Category and Subcategory levels - anyone else seeing this?

Also, some Categories repeatedly give the error message:

"Documents in this folder are not available. The folder may have been removed or deleted, or network problems may be preventing a connection to the server"

Any clues as to what is going on? I can access the Category and photos in the conventional manner so know they are still there!

Iain

[Nikolai]

I am experiencing the strange effect of Galleries (and photos therein) in a Subcategory appearing at both the Category and Subcategory levels - anyone else seeing this?

Also, some Categories repeatedly give the error message:

"Documents in this folder are not available. The folder may have been removed or deleted, or network problems may be preventing a connection to the server"

IainI thought it was me only:-)

[flyingpylon]

I realize that upload is not yet supported, but when it is, how do you expect to handle the process of adding new images to the database, generating thumbnails, assigning imageIDs and renaming files?

Just curious.

[sdmeyers]

Browsing through the directories with WebDAV I Noiticed Images that I had deleted. Which indicates something's not quite working right somewhere.

[asd]

Browsing through the directories with WebDAV I Noiticed Images that I had deleted. Which indicates something's not quite working right somewhere. I just stumbled across this and think it's GREAT! :smile6

I had zero issues getting in and am now happily browsing around and test-copying down one of my albums. Kudos for making it easy to get my photos back, should I ever lose my backups or decide I wanna move on. Not that the latter will ever happen, since this place is so great.

I've also noticed the deleted images showing up in the list - some from an album that I cleaned up at least a week ago (and probably closer to 2 weeks). http://dgrin.com/images/smilies/uhoh2.gif

[mugsytodd]

I, too, keep getting the "Documents in this folder are not avail...", but only when I click on a category that I use on my gallaries. All the other folders give no error, but are empty.

When I use WebDrive, I can connect and see my custom categories with no error, but ALL the folders are empty.

I am on Windows XP Pro.

I've tried every way I can imagine to connect and my heart is filled with sadness. Could there be firewall issues? It seems that for webdav it shouldnt be an issue, but who knows?

ATM:cry

And now, strangly enough, Windows is no longer prompting me for a password.
Grrr.

[HeidiRKrieger]

My computer says that "Documents in this file are not available....[etc.]" Is this because of McAfee? Can I make it so that it works?

Thanks!!!

[Mike Lane]

Hrm... When I log into my mikelane.smugmug.com account in OS X I see the categories just fine as C_CategoryName. When I go into any of those folders all I see is a single zero KB Unix file named _ :dunno

[HeidiRKrieger]

I have been trying and re-trying this. I use Mozilla and Microsoft XP, but I cannot connect via my network places. :scratch I don't even make it to the password phase. Any suggestions?:cry

[Manny]

This is the coolest thing since sliced bread!!!!

Unbelievably useful tool...

MG

[cooperville]

Also, some Categories repeatedly give the error message:

"Documents in this folder are not available. The folder may have been removed or deleted, or network problems may be preventing a connection to the server"

I have galleries in multiple categories, including one in Family. When I open the Family folder, I see that gallery fine, but when I open any other folder in which I have galleries, I get this same error.

I tried moving an existing gallery from Travel to Family, but then I got the error for Family, and Travel opened fine (but was, of course, empty). Is there a setting I have correct on my one Family gallery that I have incorrect in my other galleries? I looked through the options, but I couldn't find anything.

Thanks.

[cooperville]

I remembered that someone had mentioned something about special characters. I got rid of all the ' and & in my gallery names and I can see them all now.

[iefarley]

I'm very much wanting to use this to download a whole gallery my brother uploaded for me of family outing photos from another camera (I changed the password for him to be able to upload).
I can see photos in lots of other folders, but the folder I want to download gives the error message:
"Documents in this folder are not available. The folder may have been removed or deleted, or network problems may be preventing a connection to the server"
It originally was a private folder, but I've changed it to public... I've tried moving the photos bulk to a new folder and that one doesn't work either. All the filenames are long with spaces between words and most have a dash in them... might that cause trouble??
It will be very helpful if it CAN work!!