Just wanted to share specs of my new toy [Sitemap]

Nikolai

Jan-27-2005, 10:49 AM

Dimension XPS Series, Intel Pentium 4 Processor 550 (3.4GHz) w/HT Technology and 1MB cache
1GB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz
20 in (20.0 in viewable) 2005FPW Wide Aspect Digital Flat Panel Display (http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/ProductDetail.aspx?sku=320-4111&c=us&l=en&cs=19&category_id=6198&first=true&page=productlisting.aspx)
*128MB PCI Express x16 (DVI/VGA/TV-out) ATI Radeon X300 SE
returned for a full refund, upgraded with:
GIGABYTE nVIDIA GeForce 6600 Video Card, 256MB DDR, 128-Bit, DVI/TV-Out, PCI-Express, Model GV-NX66256D (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-125-157&DEPA=0) from www.newegg.com (http://www.newegg.com)
160GB NCQ Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
3.5in Floppy Drive
Microsoft Windows XP Professional,Service Pack 2, English
Intel Pro 1000 Integrated PCI NIC Card
16X DVD-ROM and 16X DVD+/-RW
PowerDVD Software Decoding for DVD Drives
Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS THX Certified Sound card with DVD
Dell 5650 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers System with Subwoofer (http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/ProductDetail.aspx?sku=TUNEUP&c=us&l=en&cs=19&category_id=6178&first=true&page=productlisting.aspx)
Type 3- Third Party At Home Service,
24x7 Technical Support,
Initial Year 1 Year Limited Warranty
Soft Contracts - Banctec
Technical Support, Initial Year
Dimension XPS, Specialized Support
* Dell Wireless 1450 WLAN USB 2.0 DT Adapter
could not connect to my router (located on a second floor),
returned for a full refund, replaced with:
Linksys Wireless USB 2.0 WUSB54G Adapter (http://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?grid=33&scid=36&prid=578) - purchased at a local PC Club
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Room is still full of boxes, but I hope to get some pictures of the setup this weekend.
BTW - Dell service rocks!

Nir

Jan-27-2005, 10:56 AM

Congrats Nikolai! Enjoy!

Nikolai

Jan-27-2005, 11:26 AM

Congrats Nikolai! Enjoy!I already do!:-)

DavidTO

Jan-27-2005, 11:42 AM

3.5in Floppy Drive
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Looks cool, but what this?

JK. Haven't seen/used one of these in 5 years, at least. Not sure what good it is?

fish

Jan-27-2005, 12:58 PM

Looks cool, but what this?
It's a vestige from a bygone era...kinda like your appendix.

Nikolai

Jan-27-2005, 01:47 PM

Looks cool, but what this?
JK. Haven't seen/used one of these in 5 years, at least. Not sure what good it is?
I could've easily dropped it from the configuration, but then I remembered that my pre-teen daughter was recently complaining about the total lack of 3.5" floppy drives at home. When I pointed out to the pool of USB 2.0 ports and 256Mb USB key I recently gave her, she explained that at school they only have
<drum roll>
APPLES, WHICH OBVIOUSLY DO NOT HAVE ANY OTHER DEVICES TO TALK TO THE OUTER WORLD!
</drum roll>
So, you see, those darn apples made my - otherwise pretty decent machine - look like crap..:bad

Cheers!:1drink

pathfinder

Jan-27-2005, 01:52 PM

I could've easily dropped it from the configuration, but then I remembered that my pre-teen daughter was recently complaining about the total lack of 3.5" floppy drives at home. When I pointed out to the pool of USB 2.0 ports and 256Mb USB key I recently gave her, she explained that at school they only have
<drum roll>
APPLES, WHICH OBVIOUSLY DO NOT HAVE ANY OTHER DEVICES TO TALK TO THE OUTER WORLD!
</drum roll>
So, you see, those darn apples made my - otherwise pretty decent machine - look like crap..:bad

Cheers!:1drink

I think Nic was waiting for that question!
:D :D :D :rofl :rofl

Nikolai

Jan-27-2005, 02:00 PM

It's a vestige from a bygone era...kinda like your appendix.But hey, if apples still use it, and my Helen has to work with them at school, it was my duty as a caring father to provide her with at least that way of data transportation, right:-):rolleyes

Cheers!:1drink

Nikolai

Jan-27-2005, 02:01 PM

I think Nic was waiting for that question!
:D :D :D :rofl :roflThanks man!:thumb
Cheers!

fish

Jan-27-2005, 02:05 PM

APPLES, WHICH OBVIOUSLY DO NOT HAVE ANY OTHER DEVICES TO TALK TO THE OUTER WORLD!

Other than the internet, huh? :rolleyes

fish

Jan-27-2005, 02:06 PM

But hey, if apples still use it, and my Helen has to work with them at school, it was my duty as a caring father to provide her with at least that way of data transportation, right:-):rolleyes

Cheers!:1drink

Nik, I can't remember the last Apple machine that came with a floppy drive. :scratch

Nikolai

Jan-27-2005, 02:20 PM

Nik, I can't remember the last Apple machine that came with a floppy drive. :scratchbut what can I do if they use them at school? (David, I'm talking about Los Cerritos Middle School).:dunno
Actually, I know.. I have few old PC boxes at home and few 17-19" CRTs, I'll probably donate them to the school. Still have some time until April 15th:-)

Cheers!:1drink

fish

Jan-27-2005, 02:23 PM

but what can I do if they use them at school? (David, I'm talking about Los Cerritos Middle School).:dunno
Actually, I know.. I have few old PC boxes at home and few 17-19" CRTs, I'll probably donate them to the school. Still have some time until April 15th:-)

Cheers!:1drink
I'm not familiar with that school. I tried to donate a couple of PCs to my son's school and they wouldn't take them...they run a 100% Apple shop. All the teachers just got iBooks, every classroom has at least one eMac, and the computer lab is full of new eMacs. (elementary school). None of those kids know what a floppy drive is either. :rofl

Nikolai

Jan-27-2005, 02:23 PM

Other than the internet, huh? :rolleyesBut she told me (and I have no reason to not believe her) that the browser they have on those, mm, apples does not work very good with a lot of modern websites :rolleyes

Cheers!:1drink

Michiel de Brieder

Jan-27-2005, 02:27 PM

Nikolai

Jan-27-2005, 02:32 PM

I'm not familiar with that school. I tried to donate a couple of PCs to my son's school and they wouldn't take them...they run a 100% Apple shop. All the teachers just got iBooks, every classroom has at least one eMac, and the computer lab is full of new eMacs. (elementary school). None of those kids know what a floppy drive is either. :rofl
Only newest (and better supported schools) were able to provide new PCs for the students. Majority is on a tight budget and have to deal with apples, no funds to upgrade.
No wonder with each generation we're getting users who don't know even the most elementary things about he 'puters (what's a floppy; how to set up an internet conenection; how to replace RAM or videocard, etc.), because all they knew at school was mac, four or five basic mac apps - and nothing else...

Cheers!:1drink

Nikolai

Jan-27-2005, 02:35 PM

For full usage of the beautiful newly acquired system one should install Linux :deal
Nah, just pulling your leg, but it would have way better performance :wink, not trying to make you a convert or anything.... :rolleyes
So, ehm, Windows huh??? Guess that makes 2 of us :D Enjoy your new system (no need to say that I guess :rofl)
Cheers Nik!! :beerMy friend helped me to set it up, and I got a web/ftp/mail/file server running in a pretty much automated mode. Machine was old, so no new OS could run on it, but I simply put a 20Gb HDD and it was OK.
--
Did you already get your air tickets?

Cheers!:beer

DavidTO

Jan-27-2005, 02:42 PM

but what can I do if they use them at school? (David, I'm talking about Los Cerritos Middle School).:dunno
Actually, I know.. I have few old PC boxes at home and few 17-19" CRTs, I'll probably donate them to the school. Still have some time until April 15th:-)

Cheers!:1drink

Any Mac with a floppy drive is pre-iMac, that is, pre-1998. Ancient history. Unless they've got external floppies. The problem isn't that they're on Macs, the problem is that they're underfunded and aren't able to upgrade. A PC that old would have the same problem, would it not? No USB, no Firewire, etc. Macs were SCSI at that point, and what were PCs, serial? I don't know.

Michiel de Brieder

Jan-27-2005, 02:45 PM

My friend helped me to set it up, and I got a web/ftp/mail/file server running in a pretty much automated mode. Machine was old, so no new OS could run on it, but I simply put a 20Gb HDD and it was OK.
--
Did you already get your air tickets?

Cheers!:beer Yup,

the tickets are in.. Man am I excited :D I've got to do some nice business deals so I can get a Sigma 50-500 :wink that would be invaluable to me besides my current setup and I think I will enjoy it very much for some DGrinner candids :rofl
almost time for bed now... in 6 hours my alarm clock will be annoying my ears, for what seems to be an eternity :cry

Nikolai

Jan-27-2005, 02:57 PM

Any Mac with a floppy drive is pre-iMac, that is, pre-1998. Ancient history. Unless they've got external floppies. The problem isn't that they're on Macs, the problem is that they're underfunded and aren't able to upgrade. A PC that old would have the same problem, would it not? No USB, no Firewire, etc. Macs were SCSI at that point, and what were PCs, serial? I don't know.I'm not much of an apple-historian..
WIth PCs, however, you can upgrade piece-by-piece, so it's not that cost-prohibitive. Not that it always helps, and eventually you just must bite the bullet. But still, you can salvage a lot of hardware this way. I'm not sure if you can do this on Macs. ANd even if you do, you need to be a "genius" to do it, while every not-totally-brain-damaged 12 year old can assemble/disassemble a pc..

Nikolai

Jan-27-2005, 02:58 PM

Yup,

the tickets are in.. Man am I excited :D I've got to do some nice business deals so I can get a Sigma 50-500 :wink that would be invaluable to me besides my current setup and I think I will enjoy it very much for some DGrinner candids :rofl
almost time for bed now... in 6 hours my alarm clock will be annoying my ears, for what seems to be an eternity :cry
I'm excited too!
Have a good nite!

rutt

Jan-27-2005, 03:31 PM

Dimension XPS Series, Intel Pentium 4 Processor 550 (3.4GHz) w/HT Technology and 1MB cache
1GB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz
20 in (20.0 in viewable) 2005FPW Wide Aspect Digital Flat Panel Display (http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/ProductDetail.aspx?sku=320-4111&c=us&l=en&cs=19&category_id=6198&first=true&page=productlisting.aspx)
*128MB PCI Express x16 (DVI/VGA/TV-out) ATI Radeon X300 SE

returned for a full refund, upgraded with:

GIGABYTE nVIDIA GeForce 6600 Video Card, 256MB DDR, 128-Bit, DVI/TV-Out, PCI-Express, Model GV-NX66256D (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-125-157&DEPA=0) from www.newegg.com (http://www.newegg.com)
160GB NCQ Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
3.5in Floppy Drive
Microsoft Windows XP Professional,Service Pack 2, English
Intel Pro 1000 Integrated PCI NIC Card
16X DVD-ROM and 16X DVD+/-RW
PowerDVD Software Decoding for DVD Drives
Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS THX Certified Sound card with DVD
Dell 5650 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers System with Subwoofer (http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/ProductDetail.aspx?sku=TUNEUP&c=us&l=en&cs=19&category_id=6178&first=true&page=productlisting.aspx)
Type 3- Third Party At Home Service,

24x7 Technical Support,

Initial Year 1 Year Limited Warranty

Soft Contracts - Banctec

Technical Support, Initial Year

Dimension XPS, Specialized Support
* Dell Wireless 1450 WLAN USB 2.0 DT Adapter

could not connect to my router (located on a second floor),

returned for a full refund, replaced with:

Linksys Wireless USB 2.0 WUSB54G Adapter (http://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?grid=33&scid=36&prid=578) - purchased at a local PC Club
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Room is still full of boxes, but I hope to get some pictures of the setup this weekend.
BTW - Dell service rocks!
Sounds perfect for running linux. Last time I had to use Dell service, it rocked so bad I swore I'd never by anohter dell machine. Now I buy all intel desktops from the local chinese guys who have a sign in their window that says Intel/AMD. Best damn service there is. Take the computer to them and they fix while I wait.

Nikolai

Jan-27-2005, 04:18 PM

Development, Internet, PS and FPS:-)
I'm kinda positive linux cannot do last two yet:-)

Cheers!:1drink

fish

Jan-27-2005, 04:36 PM

But she told me (and I have no reason to not believe her) that the browser they have on those, mm, apples does not work very good with a lot of modern websites :rolleyes

Cheers!:1drink
Funnily, I haven't come across a website that couldn't be displayed in either safari or firefox/mozilla. Could be they're running downrev OS and browser. :dunno

But back to the topic at hand, are those apples so bad that she can't even transfer a 1.44mb file home?

Funny...I never thought there was such a thing as a wintel bigot. :rofl

GREAPER

Jan-27-2005, 05:50 PM

fish

Jan-27-2005, 06:41 PM

pathfinder

Jan-27-2005, 06:44 PM

For small files, email is far more efficient than sneakernet.
I'm with Fish on this - If it will fit on a floppy, I just email it to myself. Works like a charm. :1drink
Even from Windows at work to a MAC at home. Eudora works on both OSs of course.

rutt

Jan-27-2005, 07:38 PM

Development, Internet, PS and FPS:-)
I'm kinda positive linux cannot do last two yet:-)

Cheers!:1drink
Linux gets about a C on PS via this compatability package called wine and maybe a B- via vmware. I think it gets about a B on XP and about an A- on OS X. No A+ anywhere; but that's Adobe's fault.

But Dell service, that's another story. How about spending a day on the phone and then being humg up on. I'm in charge of buying computers for my group and Dell just lost it a few years back. Have things changed? I used to love them, but then we just had nothing but badness for about a year.

On the other hand, I really can't tell you a good notebook service story right now. I think maybe Apple is OK cause you can go to the Apple store. I guess if you only have a dog slow processor to sell, you need something: a cool looking case and real service.

fish

Jan-27-2005, 07:54 PM

But Dell service, that's another story. How about spending a day on the phone and then being humg up on. I'm in charge of buying computers for my group and Dell just lost it a few years back. Have things changed? I used to love them, but then we just had nothing but badness for about a year.
I feel like a broken record (remember them?), but Dell support sucks eggs. The last time I called, I got routed to India, and was told (1) it's my ISP's problem, and then after pressing them, (2) I needed to reinstall XP. I could not get them to escalate the call. I'm done with Dell.

On the otherhand, calling Apple, I almost always get straight to a human, and that human usually speaks English fluently. Too, that human has fixed my issues immediately, with the exception of one time (the iView/iPhoto thing) and that's probably not their problem, but mine.

If I find myself in a position to buy another Wintel machine (not likely), I'm going down to Central Computer in Santa Clara, and having them build one for me. My last AMD box was built there, was a great price, and support was local...I just took my box to them and they fixed it.

If DELL stock didn't consistently move northward, I'd have sold it a long time ago.

FWIW, IMHO, YMMV, don't operate heavy machinery after reading this post.

fish

Jan-27-2005, 08:01 PM

I guess if you only have a dog slow processor to sell, you need something: a cool looking case and real service. :lol4 that's so funny, rutt. you crack me up.

http://images.apple.com/powermac/performance/images/photoshop20041013.jpg

rutt

Jan-28-2005, 03:11 AM

:lol4 that's so funny, rutt. you crack me up.

http://images.apple.com/powermac/performance/images/photoshop20041013.jpg
I was talking about powerbooks in this instance. My quote in this instance was:

On the other hand, I really can't tell you a good notebook service story right now. I think maybe Apple is OK cause you can go to the Apple store. I guess if you only have a dog slow processor to sell, you need something: a cool looking case and real service.
On the other hand, I think you've been bitten by the magical Apple marketing bug. Anyone can pick a benchmark and test their own machine and others and win. Look at this thread. (http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/145693) You can cut to the chase and look at the table of results (http://www.littlewhitecat.com/rincewind/fm/ps.htm). Notice that the best measured time is quad Xeon. Dual Xeon 2.4MHz is still 37% faster than the results that Andy reported on this very thread.

Moral: Why be a dweeb? No computer is perfect. No computer company is on your side. No piece of software (os or application) is without bugs or warts. Grow up. Do your own benchmarks if it matters a lot. Be empirical.

gus

Jan-28-2005, 03:18 AM

Be empirical.Got it :thumb

Now......... who needs some holes dug ?

em·pir·i·cal (ĕm-pîr'ĭ-kəl) http://www.gurunet.com/content/img/pron.gif
adj.

Relying on or derived from observation or experiment: empirical results that supported the hypothesis.
Verifiable or provable by means of observation or experiment: empirical laws.

Guided by practical experience and not theory, especially in medicine.

Michiel de Brieder

Jan-28-2005, 05:10 AM

em·pir·i·cal (ĕm-pîr'ĭ-kəl) http://www.gurunet.com/content/img/pron.gif Yo 'Mungus, where's tha sound?????

Andy

Jan-28-2005, 05:41 AM

I was talking about powerbooks in this instance. My quote in this instance was:

On the other hand, I really can't tell you a good notebook service story right now. I think maybe Apple is OK cause you can go to the Apple store. I guess if you only have a dog slow processor to sell, you need something: a cool looking case and real service.
On the other hand, I think you've been bitten by the magical Apple marketing bug. Anyone can pick a benchmark and test their own machine and others and win. Look at this thread. (http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/145693) You can cut to the chase and look at the table of results (http://www.littlewhitecat.com/rincewind/fm/ps.htm). Notice that the best measured time is quad Xeon. Dual Xeon 2.4MHz is still 37% faster than the results that Andy reported on this very thread.

Moral: Why be a dweeb? No computer is perfect. No computer company is on your side. No piece of software (os or application) is without bugs or warts. Grow up. Do your own benchmarks if it matters a lot. Be empirical.

folks will use what they are comfortable with. in the end, what's the difference if it takes 13 seconds or 19 seconds to do that test on fred miranda? none, really, for 98.44% of people i'd reckon... *but* there *is* a huge difference between 188 seconds and either of the faster results, be they on dual xeons or dual proc mac.

i'll say this: there *is* a difference in pricing, the dual wintel boxes are roughly $1000 more when i priced them vs. the apple g5. so, that's fairly compelling to me, becuase the speed difference isn't that big a deal. still, in the end, folks are going to buy what they are comfortable with.... and if you have apps that require windows, then the point is fairly moot, that person's not gonna switch anyhow :D

i can see why apple people are so zealous, everything about the gear is just so cool... but to me, it's like choosing a camera ... you pick the right tool for the job. in the end, both types of systems are gonna get you there.

rutt

Jan-28-2005, 06:10 AM

i can see why apple people are so zealous, everything about the gear is just so cool... but to me, it's like choosing a camera ... you pick the right tool for the job. in the end, both types of systems are gonna get you there.
Wise words, Andy. I know I lose it a little when people like fish, who normally have perfectly good bad attitudes, leave them at the door when it comes to computer systems.

pathfinder

Jan-28-2005, 07:32 AM

Wise words, Andy. I know I lose it a little when people like fish, who normally have perfectly good bad attitudes, leave them at the door when it comes to computer systems.

Ahhh, John, John, Tell us what you really think! :D :D :D

fish

Jan-28-2005, 07:50 AM

perfectly good bad attitudes

well? which is it, rutt? you can't have it both ways. :rofl

rutt

Jan-28-2005, 07:52 AM

well? which is it, rutt? you can't have it both ways. :rofl
A bad attitude is a terrible thing to waste.

DoctorIt

Jan-28-2005, 10:02 AM

Actually, My boys go to a private school, with a VERY up to date computer lab, and they are required to use a floppy to save things on to bring to and from class. For many smaller files like text, spreadsheets, etc they are agreat way to move things from platform to platform. I have been sorry several times that my laptop does not have a floppy drive.your boys must have an endless supply of disks! What a crappy policy for an "up to date" school.

Last time I went through a box of 10 disks, there was 2 that became faulty after 1 format. I think that's why they have become outdated, the LEAST secure/stable format that exists. Also, after that box episode, a few months ago, I went through all the old disks here in the lab and threw out 75% of them because there were too corrupt to recover. Mind you all of them are between 1-3 years old - thats not THAT old. Wow, what a crappy medium.

fish

Jan-28-2005, 08:04 PM

A bad attitude is a terrible thing to waste.
A bad attitude is better than no attitude. :thumb

Nikolai

Jan-28-2005, 08:11 PM

Funny...I never thought there was such a thing as a wintel bigot. :roflOnly Apple seem to produce such an attitude:feelgood .
I just work with PCs:baldy, I don't fall in love with a piece of electronics. :tuesday
And I frankly don't understand those who do :noob

Cheers!:1drink

wmsnyder

Feb-05-2005, 05:21 PM

How do you like the LCD? Have you had a chance to use it for photo editing?

luckyrwe

Feb-05-2005, 09:37 PM

I love the look of the Mac, but I liked the look of BetaMax too. Today I bought some great computer games, PC only. What a shame. Come to think of it, BetaMax had the same issues.

Nikolai

Feb-06-2005, 01:37 AM

How do you like the LCD? Have you had a chance to use it for photo editing?
I use two monitors at work, but this wide screen kinda makes it alone. I was mostly using the system to code (I was away from my smugmug explorer (http://www.smugmugexplorer.com) for almost two weeks, got a lot of stuff I simply had to put my hands on:-), but I definitely tried PS on it, too. (as well as Half-Life 2:-).
PS is very nice on a wide screen: all the tools sit nicely on the sides, while I can open the picture almost full screen and still have some screen real estate to spare.
And, the coolest part: vertical shots can be viewed vertically, as far as the display rotates (very easily). And, I can tell you - it's awesome! Both ATI (original card) and nVidia (my current one) has s/w to support this rotation in one click, so it's a great option to have.

Cheers!:1drink

Andy

Feb-06-2005, 06:15 AM

Funnily, I haven't come across a website that couldn't be displayed in either safari or firefox/mozilla. Could be they're running downrev OS and browser. :dunno

fish, go here (http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1009&message=12101404) and try two things: first, click on the picture, it's supposed to simply open in place to full width. next, go to the menus on the left (cameras, news, forum, etc) when you float your mouse over them, submenus are supposed to pop out... finally, have you tried typing messages here in dgrin with anything but basic test only editing enabled in your user cp>edit options>editor interface? the typing is very slow, definitely a safari issue.

Andy

Feb-06-2005, 06:18 AM

.....
And, the coolest part: vertical shots can be viewed vertically, as far as the display rotates (very easily). And, I can tell you - it's awesome! Both ATI (original card) and nVidia (my current one) has s/w to support this rotation in one click, so it's a great option to have.

Cheers!:1drink

hey nik, that's cool :D can you show a pic of how that works?

lr1811

Feb-06-2005, 08:06 AM

hey nik, that's cool :D can you show a pic of how that works?
I'm not trying to answer for him but what I think he means is (because I use it also) is he can rotate is moniotr and work on a 'vertical' display. I don't have a pic (sorry), but I use "Pivot Pro" on my monitors. One click and a simple rotation of my monitor (90, 80, 270 degrees) and I have a different display. What I like about it is if I am working on a "portrait", I rotate my monitor 90 degrees and my "working space" is greater on my 19" LCD. I'll try to take a picture...

Brian

lr1811

Feb-06-2005, 08:47 AM

hey nik, that's cool :D can you show a pic of how that works?I rotated my 19" on the right 90 degrees, hit one button, and now I have a bigger working area for vertical pictures.

BTW, the "blue monster" on bottom left is my newest PC that I had custom built (very inexpensively I might add). P4, a few GB of RAM, 3 HD's, blah blah blah. Not picutred is my external 300GB I use to transfer data between my 2 beasts.

Oh! And the space to the left of the monitor was where my PowerMac G4 was for... for 2 days. I still have the DVI and internet cord there as a reminder. I am not sad though - I enjoy my PCs.

And you know what else (I've digressed), I don't have any games for my PC. Not that I'm opposed to them, just don't have the time and I'd prefer to use the PS2 for games. And the funny thing is, my relatives (who own a Mac) buy me games every Christmas. Is this is a sick inside joke among you Mac people?!

Take care,
Brian

Andy

Feb-06-2005, 08:52 AM

I rotated my 19" on the right 90 degrees, hit one button, and now I have a bigger working area for vertical pictures.

BTW, the "blue monster" on bottom left is my newest PC that I had custom built (very inexpensively I might add). P4, a few GB of RAM, 3 HD's, blah blah blah. Not picutred is my external 300GB I use to transfer data between my 2 beasts.

Oh! And the space to the left of the monitor was where my PowerMac G4 was for... for 2 days. I still have the DVI and internet cord there as a reminder. I am not sad though - I enjoy my PCs.

And you know what else (I've digressed), I don't have any games for my PC. Not that I'm opposed to them, just don't have the time and I'd prefer to use the PS2 for games. And the funny thing is, my relatives (who own a Mac) buy me games every Christmas. Is this is a sick inside joke among you Mac people?!

Take care,
Brian

very very cool, brian :thumb

wxwax

Feb-06-2005, 09:00 AM

Years ago a girlfriend helped edit a newsletter, she had a Mac with a rotating screen like that. Very cool.

Nikolai

Feb-06-2005, 10:58 AM

hey nik, that's cool :D can you show a pic of how that works?Sherwood Castle:
http://nik.smugmug.com/photos/15431052-M-Sherwood_Castle.jpg

Ginger:
http://nik.smugmug.com/photos/15431163-M-Ginger.jpg
"It's always about the food":
http://nik.smugmug.com/photos/15430880-M-Shrimp_Fajitas.jpg

BTW, I was kinda hoping to see the pikhas of your setup with that 30" cinema monster of yours:-).. Did I miss the post?

Cheers!:1drink

DavidTO

Feb-06-2005, 10:58 AM

Years ago a girlfriend helped edit a newsletter, she had a Mac with a rotating screen like that. Very cool.

Yeah, I first heard of that kind of screen mebbe 12 years ago.

And I've hardly heard about them since. Always wondered why there weren't more of them around.

Nikolai

Feb-06-2005, 11:45 AM

Yeah, I first heard of that kind of screen mebbe 12 years ago.

And I've hardly heard about them since. Always wondered why there weren't more of them around.I think it's simply too expensive to produce them, and not enough shoppers to fall for them. I really like the feature (and it was one of the things which made me to buy it), but I found myself enjoying 'wide' part much more than a "tall" one. Besides, while it's really easy to rotate, it also screws up the screen layout (I have some desktop elements positioned on the bottom right corner). And all the tools and apps, they are smart enough to remember their own position and layout, but they are not smart enough to also being able to switch when orientation changes. And I use quite a few simultaneously ..

So, I guess I'm saying that while it's nice and cool, I would probably only use it if I'm gonna spend a considerable amount of time in that vertical orientation.

Or, of course, to show-off, which is a VERY important thing:-):thumb

Cheers!:1drink

Andy

Feb-06-2005, 11:51 AM

BTW, I was kinda hoping to see the pikhas of your setup with that 30" cinema monster of yours:-).. Did I miss the post?

Cheers!:1drink

sure looks way cool, nik :thumb thanks for sharing the pics :bow

here's my setup:
http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=5477

fish

Feb-06-2005, 11:53 AM

fish, go here (http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1009&message=12101404) and try two things: first, click on the picture, it's supposed to simply open in place to full width. next, go to the menus on the left (cameras, news, forum, etc) when you float your mouse over them, submenus are supposed to pop out... finally, have you tried typing messages here in dgrin with anything but basic test only editing enabled in your user cp>edit options>editor interface? the typing is very slow, definitely a safari issue.
I have to use firefox for dgrin, but it works quite nicely.

Andy

Feb-06-2005, 11:59 AM

I have to use firefox for dgrin, but it works quite nicely.

i tried, had the same problem... firefox from mozilla...

may try camino that's 'posed to work bettah on this site

Nikolai

Feb-06-2005, 12:05 PM

sure looks way cool, nik :thumb thanks for sharing the pics :bow
Thanks!:D

here's my setup:
http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=5477 :thumb
What can I say? When I'm rich like you I'm gonna get me something like that:D
Cheers!:1drink

dkapp

Feb-06-2005, 12:09 PM

i tried, had the same problem... firefox from mozilla...

may try camino that's 'posed to work bettah on this site
Firefox seems to work fine for me. I just tried Camino & it was slow like Safari.

The only problem i have w/ Firefox is how slow the scrolling is. There must be a setting somewhere that speeds things up.

Dave

wmsnyder

Feb-09-2005, 01:37 PM

[QUOTE=Nikolai]I use two monitors at work, but this wide screen kinda makes it alone. I was mostly using the system to code (I was away from my smugmug explorer (http://www.smugmugexplorer.com/) for almost two weeks, got a lot of stuff I simply had to put my hands on:-), but I definitely tried PS on it, too. (as well as Half-Life 2:-).

How about color calibration? Does it have contols for calibrating the screen?
Bill