Saw my piccie in a movie... without permission

[wxwax]

I was watching An Inconvenient Truth this evening when I saw a very familiar image.

http://www.wxwax.smugmug.com/photos/2553067-M.jpg

They zoomed in a quite a bit, and made the taillights more red... but it's this pic all right.

Now I'm torn. Not sure if it's worth a big hassle to get the $150 they owe me. Or if I should spend a lot of time and effort to hold them accountable.

[gus]

I was watching An Inconvenient Truth this evening when I saw a very familiar image.



They zoomed in a quite a bit, and made the taillights more red... but it's this pic all right.

Now I'm torn. Not sure if it's worth a big hassle to get the $150 they owe me. Or if I should spend a lot of time and effort to hold them accountable.
What do you think their legal people would do to you if you pirated their show & proudly put it in front of millions to see ?



Book 'em Dano

[Nikolai]

I was watching An Inconvenient Truth this evening when I saw a very familiar image.

They zoomed in a quite a bit, and made the taillights more red... but it's this pic all right.

Now I'm torn. Not sure if it's worth a big hassle to get the $150 they owe me. Or if I should spend a lot of time and effort to hold them accountable.

I'm not trying to be a Devil's advocate, but is it possible that they somehow took their own shot from the nearby spot?

I mean - it would be pretty hard to prove it to the judge, should it come to the court.

However, if you're sure it *is* your picture - I say, go and tear them apart! :thumb And I'm not talking about lousy $150... Maybe $150K :wink

[wxwax]

I'm not trying to be a Devil's advocate, but is it possible that they somehow took their own shot from the nearby spot?

I mean - it would be pretty hard to prove it to the judge, should it come to the court.

However, if you're sure it *is* your picture - I say, go and tear them apart! :thumb And I'm not talking about $150...:wink
I shot mine through a hole in fence on a freeway overpass. I couldn't duplicate the shot with a SLR lens, it would be too big.

And why would they go to the trouble of mimicking an Atlanta skyline shot? And it wouldn't be at all difficult to prove. Simply lay one shot over the other. They'd match perfectly. Why? Same angle and elevation.

I think you just enjoy playing devil's advocate, Nik. :deal

[Nikolai]

I shot mine through a hole in fence on a freeway overpass. I couldn't duplicate the shot with a SLR lens, it would be too big.

And why would they go to the trouble of mimicking an Atlanta skyline shot? And it wouldn't be at all difficult to prove. Simply lay one shot over the other. They'd match perfectly. Why? Same angle and elevation.

I think you just enjoy playing devil's advocate, Nik. :deal

Re: your last sentence: no, I'm not, just playing cautious.:dunno

In that case, I can only repeat meself and Gus: they would tear you to pieces if you rebroadcast their show w/o thier permission.
Reciprocity works: they broadcasted your image to millions. Take that $150 and multiply by the number of viewers. :deal

Make us all proud! :wink :thumb :lust

[W.W. Webster]

I was watching An Inconvenient Truth this evening when I saw a very familiar image. They zoomed in a quite a bit, and made the taillights more red... but it's this pic all right.Thousands of similar shots must have been taken by thousands of photographers. Asserting your specific image was used is a big call. Could it be as familiar to countless others as it was to you? :huh

[Jeffro]

I was watching An Inconvenient Truth this evening when I saw a very familiar image.

They zoomed in a quite a bit, and made the taillights more red... but it's this pic all right.

Now I'm torn. Not sure if it's worth a big hassle to get the $150 they owe me. Or if I should spend a lot of time and effort to hold them accountable.

How did they use it? Where did they get it? :dunno

[wxwax]

Thousands of similar shots must have been taken by thousands of photographers. Asserting your specific image was used is a big call. Could it be as familiar to countless others as it was to you? :huh
Ummm, look at the shot. Does it appear to be a standard shot to you? :cool

Same sky, same shine on buildings, same traffic trails, same location (not a photog friendly location).

No, thousands of similar shots have not been taken.

And no, asserting it's my image is not a big call. Why on earth would you think it is? :ear

[wxwax]

How did they use it? Where did they get it? :dunno
Used it as a voice-over image in the film.

You'll notice I don't copyright or right-click protect my images, never thought they were worth it. So it's entirely possible they saw it on the internets and stole it.

Nothing unusual about being found, I've discovered. A guy for Fulton Country, GA saw it and bought rights to use it. So, too, did a local insurance gentleman.

[W.W. Webster]

And no, asserting it's my image is not a big call. Why on earth would you think it is? :earI'm not asserting it isn't your image, just raising the question. It would be a very popular cityscape to take, and I don't know whether you would have had a long enough view in the movie to be absolutely sure it's yours.

If you believe your rights have been infringed, contact the producers and say so. Ask them to confirm who owns the rights and from whom they acquired a licence to use. Are you that certain?

[Jeffro]

Used it as a voice-over image in the film.

You'll notice I don't copyright or right-click protect my images, never thought they were worth it. So it's entirely possible they saw it on the internets and stole it.

Nothing unusual about being found, I've discovered. A guy for Fulton Country, GA saw it and bought rights to use it. So, too, did a local insurance gentleman.

WOW, no protection?! Didn't your mother teach you better than that? :D They'll probably argue they didn't steal it, and if the original can be taken with a click of the mouse and reposted over and over, you could face an impossible trail of who took it. They may well be able to show you they did buy it, but not from you. Big can of worms......

If you don't protect your images, be prepared for more of the same.

And I'm surprised you sell yourself so short:

You'll notice I don't copyright or right-click protect my images, never thought they were worth it.

[wxwax]

I'm not asserting it isn't your image, just raising the question. It would be a very popular cityscape to take, and I don't know whether you would have had a long enough view in the movie to be absolutely sure it's yours.

If you believe your rights have been infringed, contact the producers and say so. Ask them to confirm who owns the rights and from whom they acquired a licence to use. Are you that certain?
I ask again, why on earth wouldn't I be certain? :ear

Is it that inconceivable to you that a stolen piccie is used in a documentary?

I confess to being surprised, and mildly amused, by those who are incredulous that An Inconvenient Truth used an image without permission.

[wxwax]

It would be a very popular cityscape to take, and I don't know whether you would have had a long enough view in the movie to be absolutely sure it's yours.

I invite you to find its twin. :deal

And I have a DVR. :evil

[wxwax]

WOW, no protection?! Didn't your mother teach you better than that? :D They'll probably argue they didn't steal it, and if the original can be taken with a click of the mouse and reposted over and over, you could face an impossible trail of who took it. They may well be able to show you they did buy it, but not from you. Big can of worms......

If you don't protect your images, be prepared for more of the same.

And I'm surprised you sell yourself so short:

I dont doubt it would be a pain in the ass to get reimbursed, as I said at the top of the thread. Proving ownership, however, would not be the hurdle.

Getting past the stonewalling and reaching the right person, could be incredibly time consuming.

[Jeffro]

I dont doubt it would be a pain in the ass to get reimbursed, as I said at the top of the thread. Proving ownership, however, would not be the hurdle.

Getting past the stonewalling and reaching the right person, could be incredibly time consuming.

Yes it would. Now, you just made them some more money, because I'm going to have to watch it and look for your piccie. But wait, aren't I contributing to global warming just by being on the internet...much less watching that movie on my big screen? :D

Edit: Save us all the time, put the movie on your DVR, pause it, take a piccie of your piccie, let us see.

[wxwax]

Yes it would. Now, you just made them some more money, because I'm going to have to watch it and look for your piccie. But wait, aren't I contributing to global warming just by being on the internet...much less watching that movie on my big screen? :D
:lol3 Plus, you'd have to watch a lot of the movie, it's very near the end.

[Jeffro]

Edit: Save us all the time, put the movie on your DVR, pause it, take a piccie of your piccie, let us see.

That's why I said that^:D

[wxwax]

That's why I said that^:D
It was on HBO, I rewound it and watched it again. But I don't have the DVD, so I can't take a piccie of the screen.

Also, I don't feel the need to prove it's mine, not here, anyway. As I said, the skepticism here is kinda surprising and amusing.

[Jeffro]

It was on HBO, I rewound it and watched it again. But I don't have the DVD, so I can't take a piccie of the screen.

Also, I don't feel the need to prove it's mine, not here, anyway. As I said, the skepticism here is kinda surprising and amusing.

I for one don't doubt ya. I would probably have ended up watching the movie anyway, so now I have even more of a reason.

[DifferentSeed]

I bought that DVD a few weeks ago and have watched it a couple of times. It's an excellent eye-opener (pronounced debate starter) at the very least.

Anyway, the proceeds from the movie go towards helping the environment. They encourage sharing of the movie in the dvd case itself so as many people as possible see it because people need to see it. Whether they beleive it all or none or 10%, it's worth seeing and they want to spread the word however possible.

Given the purpose of the film, and getting as many people to see it as possible, I don't know how much you'd get if you could prove it's yours. But if it is yours, it's awful that it was used without permission, but what a great movie to be seen in! :) Perhaps rather than proving they owe you $150 it might be easier to get them to admit it was yours and they didn't have the right to take it, but to then grant them free use of it (it is for a good cause) for photo credit?

[DavidTO]

Sid,

Whether you go after it or not is up to you.

It would not be difficult to find out who to talk to. I could help you with that.

It's standard practice to charge an f-you rate for using your image without permission. You're right, don't bother for $150. You could go for much more than that. I'm not talking about a huge law suit, but you get the address, and then submit an invoice for the use of your image. I have a pro photog friend with experience with that kind of thing in the entertainment industry, if you want, you could speak with him.

[Nikolai]

As I said, the skepticism here is kinda surprising and amusing.
I'm not gonna speak for everybody, only for myself. My only concern is to make sure you do have a bulletproof evidence if you decide to go to court. Otherwise, as an American saying goes, you will up up to a certain creek without a paddle...

I don't have that DVD/recording. But do you think you can pause the play and take the screenshot with your camera (I know it's lame, but it will get you a ballpark)? If not for us, at least for yourself, and, quite possibly, for the court?
I would not care much for the elevation/angle, but if all the windows in those buildings are lighted identically (Difference mode to the rescue!:-), then I say, you got your case solid and can go after them BIG time...

To prove you my attitude, I'm gonna make you a suggestion. You take that screenshot with your camera and tell me it's 100% identical from your POW. I will then go and rent that movie, play it on my PC, take an actual computer screenshot and provide you with an independent expert report (FWIW, I have two degrees, MS in math, BS in computers, plus NAPP membership), which you can then use in court.

How's that for scepticism :-) :wink :lust

[gus]

Also, I don't feel the need to prove it's mine, not here, anyway. As I said, the skepticism here is kinda surprising and amusing.
For me anyway...knowing your own shot on the net is like recognising you own child in a crowd. Its a very natural thing.

[DavidTO]

Oh, and Sid, I forgot:


Congratulations.

[DifferentSeed]

I can take a screenshot from the DVD, where about (on the counter, roughly) is it in the film?

I'll post the result here when I get it captured.

[Nikolai]

Oh, and Sid, I forgot:
Congratulations.
Hear, hear! :thumb

[wxwax]

I bought that DVD a few weeks ago and have watched it a couple of times. It's an excellent eye-opener (pronounced debate starter) at the very least.

Anyway, the proceeds from the movie go towards helping the environment. They encourage sharing of the movie in the dvd case itself so as many people as possible see it because people need to see it. Whether they beleive it all or none or 10%, it's worth seeing and they want to spread the word however possible.

Given the purpose of the film, and getting as many people to see it as possible, I don't know how much you'd get if you could prove it's yours. But if it is yours, it's awful that it was used without permission, but what a great movie to be seen in! :) Perhaps rather than proving they owe you $150 it might be easier to get them to admit it was yours and they didn't have the right to take it, but to then grant them free use of it (it is for a good cause) for photo credit?
Yes, this is the first thing that crossed my mind. I don't care for a credit, and the movie's for a good cause. But I harbor a sneaky suspicion that someone's pocketing a boatload of cash from this thing, Hollywood being what it is. So I'm not sure if I'm being an idealistic sap by letting it slide.

[wxwax]

For me anyway...knowing your own shot on the net is like recognising you own child in a crowd. Its a very natural thing.
:nod Agreed.

[wxwax]

Oh, and Sid, I forgot:


Congratulations.
:lol3 Thanks!

[wxwax]

I can take a screenshot from the DVD, where about (on the counter, roughly) is it in the film?

I'll post the result here when I get it captured.
It's in the last quarter of the movie. The shot is full screen, about 60% zoomed into the buildings on the left, the white and red traillights are visible but don't dominate as they do in my image. The round tower is clearly visible.

For me, the shot is a cityscape with traffic trails. For them, it's a buildings shot, they didn't want too much of the traffic. They do a slow pullout. It's up for about 3 seconds or so.

[W.W. Webster]

I have a DVR. :evilThen go for it!

In fact, if you don't take action immediately you believe your rights have been infringed, you risk being deemed to have accepted or agreed to the (mis)use. :nod

[David_S85]

Sid, I can't tell you what to do, but...

Go get 'em!

And seriously, if they have your picture, how many other images did they heist? Assuming this is indeed your shot, somebody made the executive decision to go out and steal images without asking permission for an award-winning major studio production. What kind of message does that send around Hollywood? Or student film makers that they get away with this? Where does it end?

[DifferentSeed]

The image appears at the 1hr: 07min 40-44 second mark in the film. Got a screenshot for you, uploading now.

I also looked at the credits, they credit the still photos to many, many people. If that is your shot it's also possible someone else gave them permission and passed it off as thier own.

Edit: Here is the image:
http://differentseed.smugmug.com/gallery/1978874#137987712-L-LBhttp://differentseed.smugmug.com/gallery/1978874/1/137987712#137987712

http://differentseed.smugmug.com/gallery/1978874

[LiquidAir]

Used it as a voice-over image in the film.

You'll notice I don't copyright or right-click protect my images, never thought they were worth it. So it's entirely possible they saw it on the internets and stole it.

Nothing unusual about being found, I've discovered. A guy for Fulton Country, GA saw it and bought rights to use it. So, too, did a local insurance gentleman.

Did you put a copyright notice in the EXIF? Without that I can see a lot of people thinking the image was in the public domain. Putting a copyright in the EXIF may not protect a shot but it ought to at least keep honest people honest which, at the end of the day, is all you can really ask for.

[Retagger]

Based upon the photo that Differntseed captured from tv and posted here - it is NOT the same photo. Just look at the lights that are on in the buildings and compare them to eachother - not the same. Compare the streaming lights from the passing and approaching vehicles - not the same. Just look at the tall building in the center of the captured photo from tv (No lights on) and compare that to WXWAX's photo - (Just about all the room lights on) - not the same.

The photos are similar but definitly not the same.

P.S. Your photo (wxwax) is so much better than the one shown in the movie.....

[ChuckWC]

Yup, not the same picture. Also notice the two green traffic signs over the highway: in the TV picture, they're under the curved skyscraper; in the other picture, they're off to the right (and there's even a third sign that is missing in the TV version).

Very similar pictures, but not the same.

[Nikolai]

Yup, not the same picture. Also notice the two green traffic signs over the highway: in the TV picture, they're under the curved skyscraper; in the other picture, they're off to the right (and there's even a third sign that is missing in the TV version).

Very similar pictures, but not the same.

The off-ramp on Sid's image is totally not there on the screenshot.:dunno
I guess, I won't be called as an expert to testify... :wink

[David_S85]

Well, Sid, congrats on a very fine photo anyway. Yours is betterer. :thumb

[Seefutlung]

I'd get legal advice .... more than one opinion. If the case is clear cut that you have been wronged then I would think most attorneys would take the case under contingency.

[saurora]

Well, that's great news that it's not Sid's image. I was upset to think someone was 'stealing' your work. I thought about it and wondered how many of all of our images are 'floating' around out there. I did a search to see if I could find your image on someone else's site and I found this (http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-711718-atlanta-skyline-and-highway-at-night.html). Almost identical to the angle of your view, but definitely a different shot and no where near as spectacular in it's resulting image.

[gus]

You wanted a mkIII anyway didnt you sid ?

[Angelo]

SId - go through the PGA for quicker resolution

http://www.producersguild.org/pg/contact_a/

and while you're at it CC the photographer's guild. I'm sure they would just LOVE to learn a producer may be stealing images for uncredited use... http://www.ia669.com/

[Jeffro]

SId - go through the PGA for quicker resolution

http://www.producersguild.org/pg/contact_a/

and while you're at it CC the photographer's guild. I'm sure they would just LOVE to learn a producer may be stealing images for uncredited use... http://www.ia669.com/

I agree, the photo posted here is not Sids, too many differences. Sids is better too. Some of the differences I noticed were, signs, building lights, angle seemed lower....I don't think PS could change all that.

[StevenV]

You'll notice I don't copyright ...

not true. you may not have marked it as copyrighted, but as soon as you took the picture they copyright is yours.

Did you put a copyright notice in the EXIF? Without that I can see a lot of people thinking the image was in the public domain.

and they'd be wrong.

http://steven.vorefamily.net/2006/10/19/we-all-own-our-copyrights/

[wxwax]

The image appears at the 1hr: 07min 40-44 second mark in the film. Got a screenshot for you, uploading now.

I also looked at the credits, they credit the still photos to many, many people. If that is your shot it's also possible someone else gave them permission and passed it off as thier own.

Edit: Here is the image:
http://differentseed.smugmug.com/gallery/1978874#137987712-L-LBhttp://differentseed.smugmug.com/gallery/1978874/1/137987712#137987712

http://differentseed.smugmug.com/gallery/1978874
Nice job, mate.

It's not my image.

That's embarassing! I apologize to those I slighted in this thread. Dang thing had me going. It's also similar to another image (http://wxwax.smugmug.com/photos/2553067-M.jpg) I took, but the angle's different.

I'll shut up now. :lol3

[patch29]

It's not my image.

That's embarassing! I apologize to those I slighted in this thread.


:doh


It looks like there shot is off the 5th Street bridge too. Bummer I was hoping you were going to get some new bling $$$$$$$.

[DJ-S1]

The good news is that all of those similar looking photos totally suck when compared to yours. :thumb

[DifferentSeed]

Your pic is much nicer, too bad they didn't use yours, legally of coz :)

[Sam]

Nice job, mate.

It's not my image.

That's embarassing! I apologize to those I slighted in this thread. Dang thing had me going. It's also similar to another image (http://wxwax.smugmug.com/photos/2553067-M.jpg) I took, but the angle's different.

I'll shut up now. :lol3

Of course it's not your image!

Sam

[wxwax]

Of course it's not your image!

Sam
Dood! No politics, please.

[behr655]

Ummm, look at the shot. Does it appear to be a standard shot to you? :cool

Same sky, same shine on buildings, same traffic trails, same location (not a photog friendly location).

No, thousands of similar shots have not been taken.

And no, asserting it's my image is not a big call. Why on earth would you think it is? :ear

You would have to compare the lights that are on in the buildings.

Bear

[wxwax]

Now that my embarassing error has been made clear...

... it wouldn't bother me at all if this thread were to die. :hack

Really. Cross my heart and hope to die (of something other than embarassment.):hang

[Seefutlung]

Lol - Sid I'll buy you a beer. We all make mistakes ... and the fact that you shot your image through a hole in the wall adds credence that it wasn't a "stock" shot ... then again as a person that has never made a mistake in my life ... you can always come back under a different handle... lol

Gary

[W.W. Webster]

Also, I don't feel the need to prove it's mine, not here, anyway.Quite so. But you were stating the image was yours. Is that still your view?

As I said, the skepticism here is kinda surprising and amusing.You posted here seeking comment. I didn't detect any feedback that was offered other than to develop the topic you started, in an attempt to assist you. That was certainly my approach.

You've generated a lot of views and suggestions. What do you plan to do now?

[wxwax]

Quite so. But you were stating the image was yours. Is that still your view?

You posted here seeking comment. I didn't detect any feedback that was offered other than to develop the topic you started, in an attempt to assist you. That was certainly my approach.

You've generated a lot of views and suggestions. What do you plan to do now?
You're one of the guys I was apologizing to.

If you follow the thread, you'll see that your suspicions were correct and that I was wrong: the shot isn't mine.

So I plan to sit here in embarassed silence and hope this stupid thread dies. :lol3

[gus]

So I plan to sit here in embarassed silence and hope this stupid thread dies. :lol3

Bump

[wxwax]

Bump
:wxwax

:rofl

[ivar]

Bump:lol3

[Seefutlung]

My offer of a beer still stands .... I'll meet you half way mmmhh somewhere in Kansas I suspect.

G

[wxwax]

My offer of a beer still stands .... I'll meet you half way mmmhh somewhere in Kansas I suspect.

G
:thumb

[W.W. Webster]

If you follow the thread, you'll see that your suspicions were correct and that I was wrong: the shot isn't mine.No apology sought, nor expected - but thanks anyway. :thumb

Now I'll get off the thread so the last rites can be administered and our heads can be briefly bowed. :nod

[StevenV]

heck, I'll buy you one right here in A-town... if only to keep the thread alive :-)

[Seefutlung]

Steven ... you mean this thread?

[gus]

Steven ... you mean this thread?
I think he did.

[saurora]

This thread has such a 'catchy' title....I think it will probably go on and on....kind of like the car thread. :D

[gus]

This thread has such a 'catchy' title....I think it will probably go on and on....kind of like the car thread. :D
We really should let it just die and save poor sid the death of 1000 cuts :deal

[Seefutlung]

You think?

[Jeffro]

You think?

:lurk I guess I can watch a different movie now....any suggestions?

[ian408]

Re: your last sentence: no, I'm not, just playing cautious.:dunno

In that case, I can only repeat meself and Gus: they would tear you to pieces if you rebroadcast their show w/o thier permission.
Reciprocity works: they broadcasted your image to millions. Take that $150 and multiply by the number of viewers. :deal

Make us all proud! :wink :thumb :lust

no. not really. in fact they sort of encourage you to pass along the film.

i say get a lawyer to write a letter.

[gus]

:lurk I guess I can watch a different movie now....any suggestions?
On any sunday ?

[Angelo]

Hey, what's going on in here? Anything new?

Gus, may I have a cold one please?















:lol3

[wholenewlight]

:lurk I guess I can watch a different movie now....any suggestions?

I heard the movie, "An Inconvenient Truth", is a good one to watch.

:wink




and the thread lives on . . .

[gus]

I heard the movie, "An Inconvenient Truth", is a good one to watch.
Bourne Identity




...no..no...no wait


GATTACA :lol4 :lol

[StevenV]

Happy Feet

[wxwax]

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[sskoutas]

The good news is that all of those similar looking photos totally suck when compared to yours. :thumb

:agree At least they did you the favor of showing you to be the better photographer!

[Sam]

Are you guys still going about this? Come on give him a break! Every time one of you posts to this thread it puts it back up to the top where new people can read all about it, and the embarrassment continues.

Good thing we love ya. :D

Sam

[Nikolai]

Are you guys still going about this? Come on give him a break! Every time one of you posts to this thread it puts it back up to the top where new people can read all about it, and the embarrassment continues.

Good thing we love ya. :D

Sam

Oh, that's how it works...:scratch
:lol3

We:lust Sid!

[StevenV]

We:lust Sid!

We :lust :poke Sid!

[Frog Lady]

I have to admit, I haven't laughed so hard in quite a while. Thanks waxy, I needed that :D

cheers,

C.

[gus]

I have to admit, I haven't laughed so hard in quite a while. Thanks waxy, I needed that :D

cheers,

C.
Yeah its a great read....oh look we are now up to page 9, fancy that 'eh.

[David_S85]

Just today added Inconvenient Truth to our NetFlix que. What thread should I post my review to? :dunno

[gus]

Just today added Inconvenient Truth to our NetFlix que. What thread should I post my review to? :dunno
Hmm..not sure mate. Anyone got any ideas ?

[Sam]

Just today added Inconvenient Truth to our NetFlix que. What thread should I post my review to? :dunno

You might try the science fiction forum, or if you want talk live, call Art Bell in the Kingdom of Ny. :D

Sam

[gus]

You might try the science fiction forum, or if you want talk live, call Art Bell in the Kingdom of Ny. :D

Sam

Science fiction 'eh ?

[Angelo]

hello? anybody home?

just popped in to borrow a cup of sugar...

hellooooooo? :scratch

[Seefutlung]

I think this thread should be in the SciFi forum ... entitled "The Thread that Wouldn't Die" ...

Hey Angelo ... what's up with you? Wanna shoot this week ... say Tuesday ... for some evening stuff.

[Angelo]

I think this thread should be in the SciFi forum ... entitled "The Thread that Would't Die" ...

Hey Angelo ... what's up with you? Wanna shoot this week ... say Tuesday ... for some evening stuff.

Would love to shoot together but work makes it difficult to plan ahead (at least before 4/4)

Call me Tuesday afternoon, if I can free myself up I'll meet you somewhere.

[gus]

Would love to shoot together but work makes it difficult to plan ahead (at least before 4/4)

Call me Tuesday afternoon, if I can free myself up I'll meet you somewhere.
Tuesday is a great day to photograph.

[Angelo]

Tuesday is a great day to photograph.

But isn't my Tuesday your Wednesday? :huh :scratch :dunno

[Nikolai]

I was thinking maybe coming towards downtown LA next weekend (March 31st - April 1st) to get some urban shooting done, stately speaking, wanna meet? I was thinking of that big mormon temple, Alley of the stars, Mann's Chinese and maybe you can show me a few more places? :scratch
I hope this is a correct place to post this kinds of things :lol3

[Angelo]

I was thinking maybe coming towards downtown LA next weekend (March 31st - April 1st) to get some urban shooting done, stately speaking, wanna meet? I was thinking of that big mormon temple, Alley of the stars, Mann's Chinese and maybe you can show me a few more places? :scratch
I hope this is a correct place to post this kinds of things :lol3

Oh sure we can do this here. Locations is a better forum but I'm SURE Sid won't mind us bumping this thread a few more times :lol3

Anyway... Nikko, next weekend is bad because I'll be out of town celebrating my birthday. Yea!!! :D

Any other time would be swell though! :thumb

[gus]

Oh sure we can do this here. Locations is a better forum but I'm SURE Sid won't mind us bumping this thread a few more times :lol3

[cough] yeah i recon locations [cough] would be better...[cough]

[StevenV]

Locations is a better forum ...

well, he did mention Mann's Chinese Theatre, and that's a movie house

[wholenewlight]

well, he did mention Mann's Chinese Theatre, and that's a movie housedo they have one of those big monster sized screens?

[ginger_55]

I hope this thread stays around. I enjoyed reading about Sid last night/early AM/later AM, as I was not feeling well.
nice to have Drama and Comedy at times like that.

Bump,

ginger (That was quite a coincidence on those Atlanta Skyline photos. I, too, like yours better, Sid.)

[Seamus]

I got mapsource v9 today. Ireland is fully mapped. The maps are downloading to the gps now. I am going to have some fun this summer riding on boreens.

oops, this isn't the gps forum, sorry sid :rofl

[wxwax]

Now that my embarassing error has been made clear...

... it wouldn't bother me at all if this thread were to die. :hack

Really. Cross my heart and hope to die (of something other than embarassment.):hang
Ahem.

Test, test.

Is this thing on?

[Nikolai]

Ahem.
Test, test.
Is this thing on?

That's you, bro, 's been long time! :clap
I can hear you loud and clear! :thumb
:lust

[wxwax]

That's you, bro, 's been long time! :clap
I can hear you loud and clear! :thumb
:lust
:pissed


:lol3

[Seefutlung]

Ahem.

Test, test.

Is this thing on?


5 x 5 Sid

Hey, is there anybody here from Toledo?

[gus]

5 x 5 Sid

Hey, is there anybody here from T l do?

From where did you say ? Ive got some serious packet loss going on here.

[StevenV]

??!?!aswrwFdvvvv..... sa%&fsa eww3@#^

[RogersDA]

So much drama as to whether or not this thread will die or not that someone could make a movie on this.





Well, at least Sid's picture would be in one then.
:hide

[Nikolai]

Well, at least Sid's picture would be in one then.
:hide

:lol3 :rofl
Now, that was *really* good! :clap

[gus]

cough

[Jeffro]

I'm totally surprised with the behavior here. The way you guys have decided to take this thread is just rude! There was a point to it, and here it is.......:lol4

I was watching An Inconvenient Truth this evening when I saw a very familiar image.

http://www.wxwax.smugmug.com/photos/2553067-M.jpg

They zoomed in a quite a bit, and made the taillights more red... but it's this pic all right.

Now I'm torn. Not sure if it's worth a big hassle to get the $150 they owe me. Or if I should spend a lot of time and effort to hold them accountable.

[wholenewlight]

I'm totally surprised with the behavior here. The way you guys have decided to take this thread is just rude! There was a point to it, and here it is.......:lol4

That's a neat shot. Who took it?

[LuckyBob]

I'm totally surprised with the behavior here. The way you guys have decided to take this thread is just rude! There was a point to it, and here it is.......:lol4

Yeah, I've been noticing a lot of people trying to hijack the thread around here... Let's stay on topic, people! :hide :D

[Seefutlung]

That's a neat shot. Who took it?

I think it came from a movie ... you know that Al Gore movie.

[gus]

I think it came from a movie ... you know that Al Gore movie.
Supersize me ?

[David_S85]

Yeah, I've been noticing a lot of people trying to hijack the thread around here... Let's stay on topic, people! :hide :D

Hijack a thread? No. That's not allowed. :nah


But since about page four, the subject of this thread is anything but the title. So it isn't really out of control anymore, is it?

Sid, thoughts?

[wxwax]

Sid, thoughts?
:pissed

[ultravox]

... a great picture. Any chance to reveal the author?
:D

[GREAPER]

5 x 5 Sid

Hey, is there anybody here from Toledo?

I'm from Toledo.....


Hey, nice pic Sid. They should use it in a movie or something.....

[gus]

I'm from Toledo.....

So is clinger

[RogersDA]

So is clinger

Is that a picture of Toledo? I should visit there to see it. It looks to photogenic.

Anybody know of a neat location to take pictures there? Ya know, someplace that *nobody* else would think to shoot from?



Anybody?


Sid?

[cmason]

Anybody know of a neat location to take pictures there? Ya know, someplace that *nobody* else would think to shoot from?



Anybody?




I have heard good things about Atlanta...even saw a nice picture of it in that Al Gore movie...

[gus]

(and Sid photographed it, a great photo, did you all see it?)
Nup...movie was banned here. © issues im told :dunno

[Seamus]

Nup...movie was banned here. © issues im told :dunno
:rofl :rofl :rofl

[LiquidOps]

hello?

yes... My name is Steven... and I'm an....


oh shoot... Wrong room again...



Dang it... I probably bumped this thread back to the top....


oh well....

:dunno
















:hide

[Michiel de Brieder]

With all the bumping n stuff, there is something nice to this thread, it brings the Unconvenient Truth issue somewhat under attention. I think it is important for people to understand that some natural resources are dwindling and that we must take precautions for natural disasters.

While being serious, this is of course also a bump for this thread :barb

[gus]

It all started when our predictably heroic hero, sid, woke up in a lemur-infested moor. It was the fifth time it had happened. Feeling excessively pleased, sid backhanded a carrot, thinking it would make him feel better (but as usual, it did not). A few unfulfilled decades later, he realized that his beloved camera was missing! Immediately he called his fundamentalist, guilt-dispensing friend, captain kangaroo. sid had known captain kangaroo for (plus or minus) half a million years, the majority of which were enchanting ones. captain kangaroo was unique. He was intelligent though sometimes a little... annoying. sid called him anyway, for the situation was urgent.
captain kangaroo picked up to a very happy sid. captain kangaroo calmly assured him that most legless puppies panic before mating, yet disease-carrying chipmunks usually wildly grimace *after* mating. He had no idea what that meant; he was only concerned with distracting sid. Why was captain kangaroo trying to distract sid? Because he had snuck out from sid's with the camera only ten days prior. It was a eccentric little camera... how could he resist?
It didn't take long before sid got back to the subject at hand: his camera. captain kangaroo yawned. Relunctantly, captain kangaroo invited him over, assuring him they'd find the camera. sid grabbed his rhinocerus and disembarked immediately. After hanging up the phone, captain kangaroo realized that he was in trouble. He had to find a place to hide the camera and he had to do it carefully. He figured that if sid took the gas-guzzling, ecology-destroying, tankish SUV, he had take at least eight minutes before sid would get there. But if he took the gogo mobile? Then captain kangaroo would be abnormally screwed.
Before he could come up with any reasonable ideas, captain kangaroo was interrupted by two stupid telly tubbies that were lured by his camera. captain kangaroo panicked; 'Not again', he thought. Feeling concerned, he randomly reached for his wolverine and aimlessly punched every last one of them. Apparently this was an adequate deterrent--the discouraged critters began to scurry back toward the fanstic pumpkin patch, squealing with discontent. He exhaled with relief. That's when he heard the gogo mobile rolling up. It was sid.

[Nikolai]

It all started when our predictably heroic hero

...

That's when he heard the gogo mobile rolling up. It was sid.

To be continued, I hope?

[wholenewlight]

When will the contest winners be announced?

:scratch :huh :scratch

[claudermilk]

It all started when our predictably heroic hero, sid, ...

wow, what was in your coffee this morning? :scratch

oops, did I bump this again? :dunno







jeeze, we are MEAN! :D

[anwmn1]

Anyone know where to get a good night shot of the Atlanta skyline?












Kind of like this one?
[quote=wxwax]

http://www.wxwax.smugmug.com/photos/2553067-M.jpg

quote]

Wasn't this in a movie? Inconvient something?? Lucky bas&$#@ must have made a pretty penny off that!!



Sorry Sid but after reading all 13 pages- have to post at least once! :rofl

[Nikolai]

Anyone know where to get a good night shot of the Atlanta skyline?

I think you should contact Al Gore's office, he's holding the copyright to all Atlanta skyline images and you don't want to be in violation of the copyright, do you?:wink

[wxwax]

I'll check back in a year, maybe this will have died by then. :lol3

[anwmn1]

I think you should contact Al Gore's office, he's holding the copyright to all Atlanta skyline images (in fact, he invented the skyline :deal ), and you don't want to be in violation of the copyright, do you?:wink

Al Gore huh? Wasn't he responsible for that movie I was asking about? Anybody seen it? Maybe have it on DVR?

No I do not want to be in violation of copyright- someone might try and sue me for $150 or maybe even more if people give them the idea they can really make a statement. :lol4

[LiquidOps]

I'll check back in a year, maybe this will have died by then. :lol3

Don't hold your breath....

I just set up an outlook reminder to remind me one year from now, to revive this thread :deal

Can ya feel the love???

[Nikolai]

Don't hold your breath....

I just set up an outlook reminder to remind me one year from now, to revive this thread :deal

Can ya feel the love???

Why all the trouble? Outlook...Ha!
This is what Calendar (http://www.dgrin.com/calendar.php) is for :deal

We can all subscribe to the reminder!

[Seamus]

I'll check back in a year, maybe this will have died by then. :lol3
:wave Hi Sid, I was at the Ireland v Slovakia match tonight. Ireland won 1-0, great match.

[Andy]

I'll check back in a year, maybe this will have died by then. :lol3
Not a chance in hell.

[RogersDA]

I think you should contact Al Gore's office, he's holding the copyright to all Atlanta skyline images and you don't want to be in violation of the copyright, do you?:wink

Look, Nikolai...I work at the patent office. I've searched the patents database and I can't find any invention for a skyline.

I am *starting* to think that you are just making things up to keep this thread alive.

By the way, what's this thread about anyway? Sid - do you know?

[Nikolai]

Look, Nikolai...I work at the patent office. I've searched the patents database and I can't find any invention for a skyline.
Wow, that's cool! :thumb :bow
Can you share what inventions he actually does have? :rolleyes


I am *starting* to think that you are just making things up to keep this thread alive.
Me? No! No way! Sid is like a brother to me, why would I do such a horrible thing to him? :wink

[RogersDA]

Wow, that's cool! :thumb :bow
Can you share what inventions he actually does have? :rolleyes
They are classified. You know - secret stuff. I'd have to kill everyone on dgrin if I told:lynnsite

Of course, this thread would die then.

[wxwax]

Don't hold your breath....

I just set up an outlook reminder to remind me one year from now, to revive this thread :deal

Can ya feel the love???
:rofl That's great!

[wxwax]

:wave Hi Sid, I was at the Ireland v Slovakia match tonight. Ireland won 1-0, great match.
Congrats! I see England finally managed a win as well.

[Andy]

Why all the trouble? Outlook...Ha!
This is what Calendar (http://www.dgrin.com/calendar.php) is for :deal

We can all subscribe to the reminder!

http://www.dgrin.com/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=57&day=2007-4-28

:deal

[devbobo]

ok, given how this thread panned out, does any find it highly amusing and ironic that the movie was called 'an Inconvenient Truth' ?


:lol3 :lol3 :lol3

[DavidTO]

ok, given how this thread panned out, does any find it highly amusing and ironic that the movie was called 'an Inconvenient Truth' ?


:lol3 :lol3 :lol3


:rofl

[David_S85]

It could only get funnier if Al Gore himself joins and finds this thread. :D

[Andy]

It could only get funnier if Al Gore himself joins and finds this thread. :D
That can be arranged!

[Nikolai]

http://www.dgrin.com/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=57&day=2007-4-28

:deal

U r da man!

One more thing: can somebody notify Sid we found his picture in one of the Al Gore's movies?
His PM is not answering, I'm getting "Permanent DNA failure" error ...:dunno

[devbobo]

For me anyway...knowing your own shot on the net is like recognising you own child in a crowd. Its a very natural thing.

:nod Agreed.

and never let waxy look after your children


:lol3 :lol3 :lol3

:lol4:lol4:lol4:lol4:lol4

[Jeffro]

and never let waxy look after your children


:lol3 :lol3 :lol3

:lol4:lol4:lol4:lol4:lol4

I can't believe this, someone else is using waxies picture....http://www.atlanta-apartments.org/

What to do? :dunno :D

This one can't be his though..... http://www.eppslimousines.com/ :nono

[Nikolai]

This one can't be his though..... http://www.eppslimousines.com/ :nono

This one definitely does look like Waxy's. :deal

OK Sid, now that you found someone way closer than Al Gore, and that picture is actually yours, wanna send them an invoice? :deal

[Jeffro]

Nothing unusual about being found, I've discovered. A guy for Fulton Country, GA saw it and bought rights to use it. So, too, did a local insurance gentleman.

It could be one he sold...if not...go get em!

[LuckyBob]

I can't believe this, someone else is using waxies picture[...]
This one can't be his though..... http://www.eppslimousines.com/ :nono

It is Waxie's! Al Gore must have sold it to him! Send the bill to Gore!

...

Seriously, though. It is. Pixel for pixel. If you discard the embedded aRGB profile and render it as sRGB, shrink it to 600px wide, and overlay it, it's definitely Waxie's (aside from a shoddy JPEG conversion). The car changing lanes in the lower righthand corner is exactly the same. With the way this thread's going though, I'd bet he did license out the rights to them :huh :D

[wholenewlight]

More Sid Shots??

http://www.wackyplanet.com/at1panprin.html

http://www.baljam.com/2005/jpg/atlanta_skyline1.jpg

http://www.ce.gatech.edu/image_desc.php?image_id=137

http://www.pbase.com/image/54170127

:barb :barb

[Seamus]

Congrats! I see England finally managed a win as well.

but the fans weren't happy (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/6507057.stm)

[claudermilk]

Aha, I'm on to Sid's diabolical plot! He's now gotten us all to go scouring the 'net to find infringements of his shot FOR him!















Good thinking, Sid. :thumb

[Seefutlung]

Sid who?

[RogersDA]

Sid who?

Sid Gore, Al's evil twin whose diabolical scheme is to claim copyright ownership of all photos.

[DJ-S1]

Isn't it cool that this thread has come full circle to find someone who actually DID steal Sid's photo? Go get 'em Sid, stealing someone else's work is pretty low.

[Seefutlung]

Didn't Sid invent Al Gore?

[RogersDA]

Didn't Sid invent Al Gore?
I'll check - hold on please.

[Nikolai]

I'll check - hold on please.

Come on, now, we don't have all day! :wink

[RogersDA]

Come on, now, we don't have all day! :wink

What's the rush? Going somewhere? :rofl

[Nikolai]

What's the rush? Going somewhere? :rofl
yeah.. home...

[Angelo]

Didn't Sid invent photography?

[Seefutlung]

Didn't Sid invent photography?

I don't think so ... but he was a founder and first mayor of Rochester, NY.

[RogersDA]

Didn't Sid invent photography?
Well, I did yet another search and can find no patents from Sid. I guess he's not too smart.:lol

But, I think the people that got this patent (http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT6832954&id=J2kQAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4) violated Sid's copyright. See figure 6 (http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT6832954&id=J2kQAAAAEBAJ&printsec=drawing&zoom=4#PPA4,M1).

[Angelo]

Well, I did yet another search and can find no patents from Sid. I guess he's not too smart.:lol

But, I think the people that got this patent (http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT6832954&id=J2kQAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4) violated Sid's copyright. See figure 6 (http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT6832954&id=J2kQAAAAEBAJ&printsec=drawing&zoom=4#PPA4,M1).

That's a lovely skyline image in figure 6. When was the space needle moved from Seattle to Atlanta?





:lol3

[StevenV]

That's a lovely skyline image in figure 6. When was the space needle moved from Seattle to Atlanta?

:lol3

Nah, we'll just say it's the Polaris (http://www.atlanta-downtown.com/restaurants/). :D
http://www.cviog.uga.edu/Projects/gainfo/photogallery/images/atlanta6.jpg

[Seamus]

England beat Ireland in the cricket world cup. The first wicket to fall on the england team was Joyce who was born in Ireland:scratch . fyi, sid.

[Sam]

England beat Ireland in the cricket world cup. The first wicket to fall on the england team was Joyce who was born in Ireland:scratch . fyi, sid.

Just so I'm clear on this: Joyce is a "wicket" and fell on the team from England? Was anyone hurt in the fall?

Sam

[StevenV]

Just so I'm clear on this: Joyce is a "wicket" and fell on the team from England? Was anyone hurt in the fall?
only a whole bunch of insects (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cricket_(insect)).

http://www.pca.state.mn.us/artwork/kids/cricket1.jpg

[Seamus]

Just so I'm clear on this: Joyce is a "wicket" and fell on the team from England? Was anyone hurt in the fall?

Sam
:dunno :dunno , I watched my first cricket match yesterday. Ireland somehow made it into the second stage of the cricket world cup. I barely know the basics of the game.

[Michiel de Brieder]

I'll say, anyone looking like this should have his picture stolen :wink
(terrifying Waxy in action)
http://michiel.smugmug.com/photos/22528523-M.jpg

[dragon300zx]

I just set up an outlook reminder to remind me one year from now, to revive this thread :deal

The thread would have to stop breathing before you can revive it and at this rate I don't see that happening. Hey sid how ya doin?

[wholenewlight]

I'm wondering what to have for lunch today, any thoughts?

Is this the right thread to ask this Q?

[RogersDA]

cough

Hey Gus, how's that cold? All better?

[dragon300zx]

I'm wondering what to have for lunch today, any thoughts?

Is this the right thread to ask this Q?

Pizza or Thai.

[Nikolai]

http://nik.smugmug.com/photos/29052298-L.jpg

I heard he had made some cool movie which is coming out soon... :scratch

[wxwax]

Eeek!

[Nikolai]

Eeek!

Sorry Sid, I meant to add those to complete Michiel's 3D view:

Front:
http://nik.smugmug.com/photos/29055223-L.jpg

Top:
http://nik.smugmug.com/photos/29056299-L.jpg

Side:
http://nik.smugmug.com/photos/29059025-L.jpg

And another rear:
http://nik.smugmug.com/photos/29059057-L.jpg


HTH

[Seefutlung]

Been on one too many horses, if you ask me.

Gary

[wxwax]

:lol3 Dear lord.

[David_S85]

Thread subscribed to.

This is rapidly becoming the most entertaining thread at Dgrin.

[wholenewlight]

Side:
http://nik.smugmug.com/photos/29059025-L.jpg





I assumed that position once . . . . . . . . . and then the doctor told me the exam was over.:ivar

[Seefutlung]

I assumed that position once . . . . . . . . . and the the doctor told me the exam was over.:ivar

I am sorry ... but that is a position nobody should ever assume.

Gary

[W.W. Webster]

http://nik.smugmug.com/photos/29059025-L.jpg

That photographer must have a huge crop factor! :D

[tsk1979]

Is this a new technique to take stable shots at low shutter speeds. Maybe these pics should be added to some of the steady shot tutorials out there.
BTW today morning there was an earthquake here.

[Nikolai]

Is this a new technique to take stable shots at low shutter speeds. Maybe these pics should be added to some of the steady shot tutorials out there.

Well, Sid actually did invent it :deal :wink :rofl

[claudermilk]

Thread subscribed to.

This is rapidly becoming the most entertaining thread at Dgrin.

:rofl I came to that conclusion about 17 pages ago. Man, this has got the be the cruelest group of photographers on the net. I feel right at home. :wink Of course, after this last page my eyes are bleeding (note to self, watch my back when out shooting with dgrinners). :wxwax

[RogersDA]

Well, Sid actually did invent it :deal :wink :rofl

And maybe this is how Sid learned photography:

Patent 4,141,176 - Posable doll, means for movably mounting same and toy camera

http://darphotos.smugmug.com/photos/140844997-L.jpg

[Nikolai]

And maybe this is how Sid learned photography:

Patent 4,141,176 - Posable doll, means for movably mounting same and toy camera



This is soo cool. :rofl
Hey, gang, may be we can find one online. I'd be willing to chip in and send it to Sid gift-wrapped. :deal
David, any insights where this deivce might be selling? :scratch

[wholenewlight]

This is soo cool. :rofl
Hey, gang, may be we can find one online. I'd be willing to chip in and send it to Sid gift-wrapped. :deal
David, any insights where this deivce might be selling? :scratch

Won't it ruin the surprise if Sid sees us planning our surprise gift in this thread?
:scratch

Count me in, anyway.

[RogersDA]

David, any insights where this deivce might be selling? :scratch

Wow - who knows.

This was patented in 1976, and the exclusive rights to the patent expired 1991, if not earlier. So anybody could have made it/sold after the expiration date. The patent owner (assignee) was Mattel, but who knows if they ever made them at all.

Perhaps Andy could get a nice, framed print of this image for Sid?:D

[Sam]

I remember Sid saying he has a doll. I think he said it was a photographic large size, no wait uprezed doll, no I remember now, it was a blow up doll. :D

Sam

[Jeffro]

This one can't be his though..... http://www.eppslimousines.com/ :nono
I'm still curious, and no I'm not trying to keep this thread alive (:lol3), or :deadhorse , is this the photo sid actually sold.....:dunno

[Michiel de Brieder]

So what *is* Sid up to right now????

[Art Scott]

Got up this morning to white rain....it was in the 70's a day or two ago....

How ya doin' Waxy......waitin' on another episode of Sid and the Capt'n from
Gus ..... that was great.....Tom Bodell couldn't do better....but I sure could hear him reading it outloud :D

[Hindsight]

Hi everyone, I'm new. Oh sorry wrong thread, nm.

[anwmn1]

I had sushi the other night. Sushi in the desert- that always amuzes me!



http://nik.smugmug.com/photos/29059025-L.jpg

HTH

This looks like a Charles Barkley box out! :rofl

Sir Mix A Lot would be proud. Sid is packing much back!


Where is Cody? Is he pissed that Sid has a thread that is going to out do his?

[Nikolai]

Where is Cody? Is he pissed that Sid has a thread that is going to out do his?

Who's Cody?

[RogersDA]

Who's Cody?

Probably in reference to this thread (http://www.dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=485927)

[Nikolai]

Probably in reference to this thread (http://www.dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=485927)
Aaaaaah.. I see.. Thanks!

[Sam]

So what *is* Sid up to right now????

Michiel,

That would depend on what the definition of "is" is. :D

Sam

[StevenV]

That would depend on what the definition of "is" is. :D

perfect timing, as I'm watching a movie of Robin Williams as president right now.

[kdog]

perfect timing, as I'm watching a movie of Robin Williams as president right now.
Then what are you doing here? :scratch

[David_S85]

as promised (http://www.dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=514538&postcount=82)...

2006. Running time 100 minutes.

CAUTION, may contain spoilers!!!

Al Gore, once Vice President of the United States, and once the Next President of the United States, brings viewers up-to-date on Earth's rapid and alarming carbon emission addiction. What may be an unstoppable buildup to a massive man-made global malady is thoughtfully introduced, expanded upon with conclusary future data brought to bear. Presented by Gore himself, with small ancillary biographical Gore vignettes throughout, this one-sided message is presented strongly and with ample scientific evidence. Not much contrary opinion is offered up in this documentary, and if this film has a flaw, that is it. The viewer is nonetheless bombarded with enough material to all but extinguish theories to the contrary. If we do not act responsibly, and soon, the Earth and Man is doomed. And perhaps, it is already too late.


p.s. - oh, and I did see what would have been Sid's picture, if he had taken it.

[kdog]

I had my BS meter triggered early on in the movie when he showed a graph of the increase in C02 over the last few centuries. He pointed to the left of the graph which showed the level way at the bottom of the graph a few centuries ago. Then he made a big deal of standing on a ladder to show where the level is today, then projected that he couldn't reach where the level would be tomorrow. The implication was that the C02 had increased by some huge factor. The only problem was there were no numbers on the graph, nor did he mention any numbers. Hmmm....

A bit of googling shows that C02 has increased from about 280 ppm to 360 ppm, or around 27% since year 1700.

However, Gore made it look like it had increased a tremendous amount by neglecting to explain what the baselevel and increments were. It was a thinly disguised cheap trick to make a small change look huge. After that, I really had a hard time believing anything he said.

Cheers,
-joel

[Nikolai]

I had my BS meter triggered early on in the movie when he showed a graph of the increase in C02 over the last few centuries. He pointed to the left of the graph which showed the level way at the bottom of the graph a few centuries ago. Then he made a big deal of standing on a ladder to show where the level is today, then projected that he couldn't reach where the level would be tomorrow. The implication was that the C02 had increased by some huge factor. The only problem was there were no numbers on the graph, nor did he mention any numbers. Hmmm....

A bit of googling shows that C02 has increased from about 280 ppm to 360 ppm, or around 27% since year 1700.

However, Gore made it look like it had increased a tremendous amount by neglecting to explain what the baselevel and increments were. It was a thinly disguised cheap trick to make a small change look huge. After that, I really had a hard time believing anything he said.

Cheers,
-joel

As they say, "there are lie, blatant lie and statistics"..:wink

It's very unfortunate that it came to this. People try to deliver the important message, yet to be heard they start to use the same BS tactics as their opponents, thus rendering their own efforts useless...:dunno

BTW, Sid, did you like the movie? :rolleyes

[Angelo]

I had my BS meter triggered early on in the movie when he showed a graph of the increase in C02 over the last few centuries. He pointed to the left of the graph which showed the level way at the bottom of the graph a few centuries ago. Then he made a big deal of standing on a ladder to show where the level is today, then projected that he couldn't reach where the level would be tomorrow. The implication was that the C02 had increased by some huge factor. The only problem was there were no numbers on the graph, nor did he mention any numbers. Hmmm....

A bit of googling shows that C02 has increased from about 280 ppm to 360 ppm, or around 27% since year 1700.

However, Gore made it look like it had increased a tremendous amount by neglecting to explain what the baselevel and increments were. It was a thinly disguised cheap trick to make a small change look huge. After that, I really had a hard time believing anything he said.

Cheers,
-joel



http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/07/science/earth/07climate.html?hp

[kdog]

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/07/science/earth/07climate.html?hp
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html :wink

[StevenV]

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html :wink

http://tinyurl.com/8ynba


Now, can we please get this thread back on track... Sid, did you get any pictures of cars sliding around in the Atlanta snow last night?

[RogersDA]

Now, can we please get this thread back on track
Sure:

http://darphotos.smugmug.com/photos/141780880-L.jpg

[Angelo]

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html :wink

Joel:

First paragraph states that's the controversial theory of one scientist.

[kdog]

Joel:

First paragraph states that's the controversial theory of one scientist.
I know, that's why I included the "evil" smilie. :wink I've got no bones with the global warming movement. Better to be safe than sorry, I always say. I just don't appreciate Al Gore's cheesey attempt to sensationalize the cause. It's just grandstanding. Why else would he stand on a ladder making wild gestures and claims without ever actually citing the number?

Let me repeat. The movement against global warming, good. Al Gore, bad.

Cheers,
-joel

[Nikolai]

Sure:


This is awesome! :clap :rofl
Hey I thought to send you a PM about the typo ('tkaing") but this is sort of private long-forgotten thread anyway, so I decided, what the "ehll" :-)...

[Angelo]

I know, that's why I included the "evil" smilie. :wink I've got no bones with the global warming movement. Better to be safe than sorry, I always say. I just don't appreciate Al Gore's cheesey attempt to sensationalize the cause. It's just grandstanding. Why else would he stand on a ladder making wild gestures and claims without ever actually citing the number?

Let me repeat. The movement against global warming, good. Al Gore, bad.

Cheers,
-joel

Sorry, I missed the cheesy smile! :huh

[RogersDA]

This is awesome! :clap :rofl
Hey I thought to send you a PM about the typo ('tkaing") but this is sort of private long-forgotten thread anyway, so I decided, what the "ehll" :-)...

yeah..that was intentional. :wink

[jdryan3]

yeah..that was intentional. :wink

David -
ha-ha-ha. :lol3 :lol3 :lol3
The whole post.

[Nikolai]

I was watching the said "IT" movie today and I now think Sid is right!
Just a few minutes before his picture was shown, they used one of mines, too!
Here it is:
http://nik.smugmug.com/photos/124973978-L.jpg
Should I go to court? :rolleyes

PS. What's weird, I took that picture in January 2007. I guess they were waiting for it and put it into the movie the very last second..

[David_S85]

Yes, Nik, please go see a lawyer immediately. I am looking at both a still from the movie on the right of my screen (as I'm watching it a 2nd time, pic in at 1:04:59) and this page on the left. They are eerily similar. So much so, that I'll bet we can extend this thread many more pages.

[RogersDA]

Just a few minutes before his picture was shown, they used one of mines, too!
Does this mean we switch from Sid to you?:scratch I means, geez...we were in a groove here and you try to hijack this thread with your own problem!:rofl

[Nikolai]

Does this mean we switch from Sid to you?:scratch I means, geez...we were in a groove here and you try to hijack this thread with your own problem!:rofl
No, I'm only trying to build a class lawsuite ;-) :wink

[StevenV]

oh dang, and I had been trying to avoid the movie. now I guess we all need to go watch it and compare to our portfolios.

[snapapple]

oh dang, and I had been trying to avoid the movie. now I guess we all need to go watch it and compare to our portfolios.

I don't see any recent posts on this thread. So, I just want to say, Sid, your photo is absolutely awesome. I don't know how you could have thought that was your shot. Their shot is terrible. So dull and boring. You should call them up and see if they might buy your shot and update their tape.

Congrats on a great shot!:clap :clap

Hmmm, is that a bump?

[StevenV]

http://www.wxwax.smugmug.com/photos/2553067-M.jpg

Hey, we should send this photo to the cops. I think I see Angelo (http://dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=60046) exceeding the speed limit down there.

[Seamus]

Sid, try and watch the utd v everton game from today. Great drama, especially for a utd fan.

[Nikolai]

Hey, we should send this photo to the cops. I think I see Angelo (http://dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=60046) exceeding the speed limit down there.

Steve, I think you're right... Did you mean the second frame from that traffic camera?

[Milan]

Wow, this tread is stil alive an kikin'. :D

[wxwax]

Sid, try and watch the utd v everton game from today. Great drama, especially for a utd fan.
:bluduh

Did I mention I've been a Chelsea fan for decades. :cry

Darned game was on Setanta here, couldn't see it. Sounds like a great comeback, though. They sure can score a lot of goals. :huh

[amy wilburn]

after reading and sometimes :lol :lol4 :rofl (thanks crazy dgrinners) through 23 pages of this I'm still wondering DID that limo co. pay you for the rights???

(didn't think you'd mind the bump since you just responded yourself...I was getting worried and thought you really weren't going to check back until a year had passed :wink )

(all this because I got into a thread debating the use of much PSing in our LPS contests - - I personally love to PS my pics [don't hate me], have a degree from an art school, think photography is an art...sorry, wrong thread)

but SID!!! ...about that limo company???

:lust (love, not lust)
amy

[wxwax]

Hi Amy,


Much to my embarassment, the photo in the film wasn't mine (which is why this thread has been running for so long. :lol3)

Thanks for making me have to admit that again! :bluduh


:lust (Lust, not love)
Sid

[dragon300zx]

LOL Sid I think your missing what they are talking about.

They found what they believe is your photograph being used by a limo company. And they where wanting to know if that limo company is authorized to use it seeing as you lost out on the movie deal money.

[amy wilburn]

http://www.eppslimousines.com/

This one definitely does look like Waxy's. :deal

OK Sid, now that you found someone way closer than Al Gore, and that picture is actually yours, wanna send them an invoice? :deal

yes, see, sid? go get 'em!

:lust (still love, not lust)
amy

[wxwax]

http://www.eppslimousines.com/

yes, see, sid? go get 'em!

:lust (still love, not lust)
amy
Oh, I see. Haven't been following the thread closely, hadn't seen that.

I'll be giving them a call. :nod

[Angelo]

Oh, I see. Haven't been following the thread closely, hadn't seen that.

I'll be giving them a call. :nod

that definitely looks like your image Sid

:deal

[W.W. Webster]

Haven't been following the thread closelyEh? But it's your thread! :D

[Andy]

Sid!!!!!!!!!! I found a clothing company (http://www.seanjohn.com/) that's ripping off your idea! Hurry, you could sue their butts off!

http://dgrin.smugmug.com/gallery/167709#6685967-L-LB

[W.W. Webster]

Sid!!!!!!!!!! I found a clothing company (http://www.seanjohn.com/) that's ripping off your idea! Hurry, you could sue their butts off!Butts? :scratch

Surely, to succeed in getting retribution from a clothing company, wouldn't the strategy be to sue their pants off? :rofl

[sirsloop]

Oh, I see. Haven't been following the thread closely, hadn't seen that.

I'll be giving them a call. :nod

LMFAO! Go get em!!

[wxwax]

Sid!!!!!!!!!! I found a clothing company (http://www.seanjohn.com/) that's ripping off your idea! Hurry, you could sue their butts off!

http://dgrin.smugmug.com/gallery/167709#6685967-L-LB
I'm onto them, Andy. Thanks for the tip. I'll be a bulldog.

[David_S85]

I'm onto them, Andy. Thanks for the tip. I'll be a bulldog.

Sid, find out any more on what they're doing with your photo?
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[mr peas]

Yeah, pls give us an update Sid. So that we'll know what to do if (more likely, when) people grab our images and use them for promotion.

And good luck, I hope you receive the compensation you deserve.

[ivar]

Yeah, pls give us an update Sid. So that we'll know what to do if (more likely, when) people grab our images and use them for promotion.

And good luck, I hope you receive the compensation you deserve.:lol3

[RogersDA]

that we'll know what to do if (more likely, when) people grab our images and use them for promotion.

You sue: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07093/774585-85.stm

She won. If anybody wants it I can get you a copy of the McClatchey v. Associated Press. It's too long for a single post here. That would require multiple bumps of this thread.

[claudermilk]

It's too long for a single post here. That would require multiple bumps of this thread.

...and the problem is? :dunno :D

[RogersDA]

...and the problem is? :dunno :D

Hmm....1 paragraph per day - about 30 paragraphs total - yeah that should make Sid happy.

[mr peas]

Yeah send away. I'd like to give it a read through.

But its true, its more likely when than if, will our images get taken by somebody, intentionally or unintentionally.

That 911 photo example is a good one. Is there any other articles relating that same case, such as a follow-up or anything?

[RogersDA]

Is there any other articles relating that same case, such as a follow-up or anything?

I am wating for the follow-up which I believe will be a decision on damages (assuming the A.P. does not appeal).

I track these things (occasionally) as part of my full-time career - mostly with regard to patents. So sometimes its hit -or - miss when it comes to copyright cases.

[claudermilk]

Hmm....1 paragraph per day - about 30 paragraphs total - yeah that should make Sid happy.

There you go! Keep ALL of us interested in this thread! :clap:wink


...oh, and bump....

[Lynie]

I can see several office light diffrences in the picture...Also, the building to the right of the two tall buildings in the middle of the picture is spaced away from it. Where in his pic they are photographed as being over lapping? I know you can do a lot with photoshop, but can you move buildings? :dunno

[Lynie]

Hi Amy,


Much to my embarassment, the photo in the film wasn't mine (which is why this thread has been running for so long. :lol3)

Thanks for making me have to admit that again! :bluduh


:lust (Lust, not love)
Sid



Oh crud! I hadn't read that part, I skipped all the way to the end, I love your shot though! And they are right, your shot is A LOT better than theirs!

[Drea]

I felt it was my duty, after reading through 25 page, to post something, anything on this thread even if I didn't have anything important to add.

The thread did keep my attention it was like watching a movie I laughed, I cried...


This thread is about movies, right? :confused