The things you find on Photography forums

[DavidTO]

Any Aviators out there? (http://www.robgalbraith.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=304895&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1)

[Nikolai]

Any Aviators out there? (http://www.robgalbraith.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=304895&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1).. me to let you get away with THIS that easy, did ya;-)?

Here's something for you: what Adobe really thinks (http://www.winnetmag.com/WindowsScripting/Article/ArticleID/38445/WindowsScripting_38445.html). It's not a remote analogy between airplanes and platforms, it's His Majesty Photoshop we're talking about:-)

Cheers!:1drink

[DavidTO]

.. me to let you get away with THIS that easy, did ya;-)?

Here's something for you: what Adobe really thinks (http://www.winnetmag.com/WindowsScripting/Article/ArticleID/38445/WindowsScripting_38445.html). It's not a remote analogy between airplanes and platforms, it's His Majesty Photoshop we're tlaking about:-)

Cheers!:1drink

Whoah, Nelly.

First of all, that was from a Mac forum, and not intended as Mac-Evangelism, but just a "ho my gosh, the things people'll talk about". Not that there's anything wrong with the thread, but it's just funny what we come up with on these forums.

Secondly, that article is pre-G5, so stuff it.

;)

[DavidTO]

Andy (http://www.dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=46509&postcount=176) is (http://www.dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=51637&postcount=1) our (http://www.dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=51723&postcount=36) new (http://www.dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=51734&postcount=9) resident (http://www.dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=51930&postcount=17) MacEvangelist. (http://www.dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=53327&postcount=49)

[Nikolai]

Andy (http://www.dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=46509&postcount=176) is (http://www.dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=51637&postcount=1) our (http://www.dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=51723&postcount=36) new (http://www.dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=51734&postcount=9) resident (http://www.dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=51930&postcount=17) MacEvangelist. (http://www.dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=53327&postcount=49)..find me a Mac programmer. Or, better, two (smugmug ppl does not count:-).

As to the pre-G5.. Well, yeah, they worked with what they had. When it (eventually) will come to P5/Longhorn kicking G5/X's rear, will you say "it's not fair" again?:wink

Yesterday installed (and even played:-) HL2. Widescreen, surround sound (5.1) - shhhweeet:-). All - for the fraction of what Andy paid for the his monitor only...:rolleyes

Gosh, what a lousy weather again in TO..:uhoh

Cheers!:1drink

[DavidTO]

..find me a Mac programmer. Or, better, two (smugmug ppl does not count:-).

As to the pre-G5.. Well, yeah, they worked with what they had. When it (eventually) will come to P5/Longhorn kicking G5/X's rear, will you say "it's not fair" again?:wink

Yesterday installed (and even played:-) HL2. Widescreen, surround sound (5.1) - shhhweeet:-). All - for the fraction of what Andy paid for the his monitor only...:rolleyes

Gosh, what a lousy weather again in TO..:uhoh

Cheers!:1drink

Oh, that's right, Longhorn's due out in 2005 (http://news.zdnet.co.uk/business/0,39020645,2134437,00.htm). No, wait, 2006. (http://cbs.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?guid=%7BA3148182-DA1F-4659-A4AD-4070C035821D%7D&siteid=google&dist=google)

By the time Longhorn does come out, OSX will be in its 6th generation. Who knows where the G5 will be.

It's not that it wasn't fair. It just wasn't current. Motorola hosed Apple when they didn't/wouldn't do what IBM was able to in the G5. Those were tough times, speed-wise.

Anyway, happy to debate the issues with you, Nikolai--if only because it stays a light-hearted debate. Don't want to end up with one of those strongly worded debates--especially when this thread started with a completely different intention. It was about comparing aviation with computing.

[Nikolai]

It was me posting the picture of my cables, remember?:-)

And I do like analogies, too:-)

It's like Macs being the limos (comfortable, driven by shauffeur, expensive, etc.), and peecees being all the rest of the car market, from golf carts to sedans to SUVs to pickups..

Or it's like Macs being Dom Perignon '57, while PCs being the usual content of the Beverages & Mo (or Cost Word Plus, or Trader Joe's :-)

Let's continue this analogy game:-) Your turn!

Cheers!:1drink

[Seamus]

Apple v pc. I am curious - what computer did apple users have, an amiga or atari st, cbm 64 or spectrum?

sorry for the highjack :ear

[Nikolai]

Apple v pc. I am curious - what computer did apple users have, an amiga or atari st, cbm 64 or spectrum?You mean: what did they use before they got hooked:-)?:rolleyes

sorry for the highjack :earNot a problem at all, good to see you here..:-) :thumb

Cheers!:1drink

[fish]

Let's continue this analogy game:-) Your turn!

Cheers!:1drink

Macs are Snap-on screwdrivers.
PCs are jackhammers.

Both can turn a screw, but one of them is much easier to use and won't give you a headache in the process.


yeah, i know, it's lame, but I just finished reading through a mind-numbing 78 page Dilbertian presentation and my brain is fried.

[fish]

Apple v pc. I am curious - what computer did apple users have, an amiga or atari st, cbm 64 or spectrum?

sorry for the highjack :ear
In my case, it was a very long line of PCs, from a Dell DX75 to an AMD Athlon 2.8ghz. Along with a sprinkling of SPARCstations and a TI 99/4a along the way.

[Andy]

..find me a Mac programmer. Or, better, two (smugmug ppl does not count:-).

i actually know four mac programmers personally, and i just hired one of them :D

[Nikolai]

i actually know four mac programmers personally, and i just hired one of them :DLucky you!
You probablyt emptied Greater New York Mac programmers pool:-)

Cheers!:1drink

[Nikolai]

Macs are Snap-on screwdrivers.
PCs are jackhammers.

Both can turn a screw, but one of them is much easier to use and won't give you a headache in the process.


yeah, i know, it's lame, but I just finished reading through a mind-numbing 78 page Dilbertian presentation and my brain is fried.You know yourself

it's not accurate
you can do way better than that:-)
Just to be on a helpful side for the fried-brain friend for a tools line:
"Macs are like laser-gided miter saw with 4"x2" max cross-section, wood only. PCs are all the other saws - a bit harder to work with, but you eventually can cut anything life puts in your way".

Cheers!:1drink

PS
Thanks again for the smiley!

[pathfinder]

You know yourself

it's not accurate
you can do way better than that:-)
Just to be on a helpful side for the fried-brain friend for a tools line:
"Macs are like laser-gided miter saw with 4"x2" max cross-section, wood only. PCs are all the other saws - a bit harder to work with, but you eventually can cut anything life puts in your way".

Cheers!:1drink

PS
Thanks again for the smiley!

My Mac is like a self sharpening saw or a CnC lathe. I do not spend hours working on my MAC, I work on what I bought the MAC to work on. With my PCs I end up spending hours keeping the PC running, rather than using it to solve a problem. Kind of like having to sharpen that saw blade four times for every board I cut. Not a very efficient way to work. I have come to resent time spent updating and repairing computers.

I just reformatted the hard drive in my XP laptop due to updates MSFT kindly informed me that I needed to be safe. Well, after the update, I was safe - the machine would not boot at all, not even into SAFE Mode. So 8 hours spent rebuilding the machine. Can I rebuild the machine ?? SURE. I just don't want to spend my time as a computer repairman for MSFT. I want to use it to run Photoshop. The thrill is gone with fixing PCs and keeping them up to date every day, week, month. My next laptop will be a Power Book.

[gregneil]

Macs vs. PCs? Why not Macs AND PCs? They can play together. It's like when I was a kid and my Mom always made me invite that ugly kid over who kept falling off his bike.

[Nikolai]

My sincere condolences.. It happens.. with everything. Bad laptops, bad TVs, bad cars, bad cellphones, even bad S/Os:-)
But don't you think that one bad egg does NOT mean that all the eggs are rotten?
Just a thought..
Cheers!:1drink

[DavidTO]

Stop the madness!!!!

This thread is NOT about Mac vs. PC. I know, because I started it.

This thread is about aviators equating their flying machines to their computing machines, and how funny it is sometimes, the topics we get onto in these fora.

[JohnR]

..find me a Mac programmer. Or, better, two (smugmug ppl does not count:-).


I know 2. 1 works for Apple (on the Soundtrack app) and the other one (who lives in New Hampshire) used to be a Windows programmer and about 2 years ago (maybe 3 now) switched to Macs at home and started his own company. here's his site: http://www.xtralean.com

[gregneil]

My bad... Sorry to digress....

Back OT -

Where I work (The genius bar at the Third Street Apple Store in Santa Monica) 2 of our geniuses are pilots.

I've never flown an airplane.

[DavidTO]

My bad... Sorry to digress....

Back OT -

Where I work (The genius bar at the Third Street Apple Store in Santa Monica) 2 of our geniuses are pilots.

I've never flown an airplane.

No way...

You're a genius? Really?

[gregneil]

No way...

You're a genius? Really?

Yes, it's true. At least, I've got people here at work convinced it's true. Most rabid mac fans (and it seems there's a few here on the forum) know more than I do. But to the average user who needs help, I've got it down. And I'm certified to pull apart powerbooks and fix them. So that's fun. Thismorning I pulled a hard drive from a powerbook that was totally dead to do a data transfer, and in a few minutes I'm going to be up to my elbows in eMac guts.

But really, now, let's get back on topic.

My co-worker Fred used to be a flight attendant at Delta - and he says that when he worked there (just over a year ago) he estimates 40% of the pilots he worked with were Mac users. He says there's definitely a higher percentage of mac users among pilots than among the general population. And that was even considering that it's a HUGE pain in the butt for a Mac user Delta employee to use a Mac to log onto their employee system from home.

so there you have it - scientific proof of a connection between aviation and macs.

[DavidTO]

so there you have it - scientific proof of a connection between aviation and macs.

Pure genius!

(did you see the NYTimes article that Andy posted a link (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/27/technology/circuits/27appl.html?oref=login) to?)

[gregneil]

Yes, great article!

The genius bar is a great idea and one of the single biggest contributors to the success of Apple's retail strategy, I think. Now if only we can cut the wait time down, things will be golden.

[Andy]

Yes, great article!

The genius bar is a great idea and one of the single biggest contributors to the success of Apple's retail strategy, I think. Now if only we can cut the wait time down, things will be golden.

greg, yer famous!

[lynnesite]

Yes, it's true. At least, I've got people here at work convinced it's true. Most rabid mac fans (and it seems there's a few here on the forum) know more than I do. But to the average user who needs help, I've got it down. And I'm certified to pull apart powerbooks and fix them. So that's fun. Thismorning I pulled a hard drive from a powerbook that was totally dead to do a data transfer, and in a few minutes I'm going to be up to my elbows in eMac guts.

But really, now, let's get back on topic.

Very cool, Greg, will have to stop in some time and meet ya. Loved your triptych, voted for it even. Are the headshots of you?

Lynne
Mac Geek to the stars