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mushy
Mar-04-2007, 03:47 PM
I recently spent a month in Thailand which I'll post in journeys shortly. When I got home I noticed a larger than normal amount of shots out of focus. Mainly using the 10-22 and a 17-85mm lens. I did notice the 10-22 does alot of searching when you shoot to infinity and all too often it would stay out of focus. Do these sort of issues lie with the lens or the camera body itself.
Any help would be greatly appreciated :scratch

ziggy53
Mar-04-2007, 04:39 PM
I recently spent a month in Thailand which I'll post in journeys shortly. When I got home I noticed a larger than normal amount of shots out of focus. Mainly using the 10-22 and a 17-85mm lens. I did notice the 10-22 does alot of searching when you shoot to infinity and all too often it would stay out of focus. Do these sort of issues lie with the lens or the camera body itself.
Any help would be greatly appreciated :scratch

Look for consistant errors like front-focus/back-focus. If you see a lot of front-focus error (for example), that may be correctable. Samples and EXIF would help determine the problem and its extent.

It could be technique or subject based. We would have to see some samples to guess more accurately.

Filters can cause focus problems, and in my experience, the wider the lens (shorter the focal length) the more likely focus is to be affected by a filter.

Focus problems with more than one lens tends to be camera related, but technique can greatly impact the results as well and improper technique can affect multiple lenses (obviously.)

mushy
Mar-05-2007, 02:30 PM
Look for consistant errors like front-focus/back-focus. If you see a lot of front-focus error (for example), that may be correctable. Samples and EXIF would help determine the problem and its extent.

It could be technique or subject based. We would have to see some samples to guess more accurately.

Filters can cause focus problems, and in my experience, the wider the lens (shorter the focal length) the more likely focus is to be affected by a filter.

Focus problems with more than one lens tends to be camera related, but technique can greatly impact the results as well and improper technique can affect multiple lenses (obviously.)

Cheers Ziggy for the quick reply. Most of the issues relate to the 10-22 and are shooting landscapes where you'll see the lens focus pretty quick and then step out of focus before you take the shot. I'll upload an example when I get home. The filters thought made some sense but I don't have one on the lens in question. It was also a full range of low light to broad day light photo's. Mainly shot on Aperture priority with a minimu of 125th shutter speed.

wxwax
Mar-05-2007, 07:14 PM
Focus setting wasn't AI Servo, was it?

mushy
Mar-05-2007, 07:24 PM
Focus setting wasn't AI Servo, was it?

most probably was, as this is the focus setting I use most of the time as I usually shot sports or am tracking some sort of nature.

wxwax
Mar-05-2007, 07:47 PM
most probably was, as this is the focus setting I use most of the time as I usually shot sports or am tracking some sort of nature.
That probably explains your problems, then. AI Servo will continue to hunt when you try to shoot static objects. It's *not* a good setting to use for anything but tracking moving objects, in my experience. Been there, done that, took me a while to figure out why my focus wouldn't settle down. :doh :lol3

gus
Mar-05-2007, 07:49 PM
That probably explains your problems, then. AI Servo will continue to hunt when you try to shoot static objects. It's *not* a good setting to use for anything but tracking moving objects, in my experience. Been there, done that, took me a while to figure out why my focus wouldn't settle down. :doh :lol3
Thats odd because AI servo is all i ever use on both cameras & i never have any issues at all :dunno

mushy
Mar-05-2007, 08:14 PM
Thats odd because AI servo is all i ever use on both cameras & i never have any issues at all :dunno

DOH!!
I read Wxwax's response I went 'wicked' problem solved! then scrolled further down and you go throw some new doubt into the equation:dunno

Cheers all for the fast responses, will go away now and do some trialling between the 2 focus modes and see if one works better than the other.

Was only joking Gus btw, all input is always appreciated:thumb

gus
Mar-05-2007, 08:41 PM
DOH!!
I read Wxwax's response I went 'wicked' problem solved! then scrolled further down and you go throw some new doubt into the equation:dunno

Mate honestly i know stuff all about 'how to'. Follow waxy & give it a try.

claudermilk
Mar-06-2007, 06:50 AM
Another thought: are you using a specific focus point or allowing the 20D to pick them? I know I tripped myself up a couple of times as I typically lock on the center AF point for my theater shoots. Doesn't work so well on landscapes where that's looking a a nice blue sky--lens racks from end to end looking for contrast.:thwak:doh

slapshot
Mar-06-2007, 07:05 AM
I recently spent a month in Thailand which I'll post in journeys shortly. When I got home I noticed a larger than normal amount of shots out of focus. Mainly using the 10-22 and a 17-85mm lens. I did notice the 10-22 does alot of searching when you shoot to infinity and all too often it would stay out of focus. Do these sort of issues lie with the lens or the camera body itself.
Any help would be greatly appreciated :scratch

Probably just need to get used to shooting the 10-22. For the longest time I shot only sports with a Nikon 70-200. Then I got the 12-24 to shoot landscapes. First couple of outings the focus was off...I nearly returned the lens. Then I realized it was technique and getting used to the lens. It's very different shooting the wide angle. The 70-200 VR is much more forgiving, the 12-24 I have to really pay attention to technique.

mushy
Mar-06-2007, 02:28 PM
Probably just need to get used to shooting the 10-22. For the longest time I shot only sports with a Nikon 70-200. Then I got the 12-24 to shoot landscapes. First couple of outings the focus was off...I nearly returned the lens. Then I realized it was technique and getting used to the lens. It's very different shooting the wide angle. The 70-200 VR is much more forgiving, the 12-24 I have to really pay attention to technique.

Cheers Claudermilk and Slapshot for two more things too look into, I was also close to taking the camera and lens in for a service but instead will spend the weekend experimenting and see what I come up with :thumb