Can anyone check my site in IE 6?

[jeffu]

Can someone check my site in ie6 and make sure the frame and slideshow is working and not out of whack?

http://photography.jeffulrich.com

Thanks!

[gilbert]

Can someone check my site in ie6 and make sure the frame and slideshow is working and not out of whack?

http://photography.jeffulrich.com

Thanks!


There are some issues with IE...What the extent of them are...um, not sure! Sorry!

Slideshow looks good...something with the bottom margin...the vertical scroll bar is weird, but I think that has to do with the extra space at the bottom...

If you use FireFox you can try the IE tab extension to see how the page looks in IE...I don't know if it would help, but it comes in handy from time to time. I do have IE6 on this computer though too.

[jeffu]

There are some issues with IE...What the extent of them are...um, not sure! Sorry!

Slideshow looks good...something with the bottom margin...the vertical scroll bar is weird, but I think that has to do with the extra space at the bottom...

If you use FireFox you can try the IE tab extension to see how the page looks in IE...I don't know if it would help, but it comes in handy from time to time. I do have IE6 on this computer though too.

Can someone else also take a look - I've tried the FF IE Tab extension, but I'm not seeing any issues. Since I have IE 7, it's hard to test. Safari is working fine.

[S&SPhoto]

Can someone else also take a look - I've tried the FF IE Tab extension, but I'm not seeing any issues. Since I have IE 7, it's hard to test. Safari is working fine.Jeff,

There seems to be something funky going on with your footer on all your pages in IE 6.0. I agree, it's a difficult phenomenon to describe. Basically, it appears that you can scroll down indefinitely. Your pages look perfect in Firefox 2.0.

I'm not sure what's going on here. Maybe Barb or Al can chime in?

Thanks.

Samir

[jeffu]

Jeff,

There seems to be something funky going on with your footer on all your pages in IE 6.0. I agree, it's a difficult phenomenon to describe. Basically, it appears that you can scroll down indefinitely. Your pages look perfect in Firefox 2.0.

I'm not sure what's going on here. Maybe Barb or Al can chime in?

Thanks.

Samir

Thanks -

Barb or Al - any ideas? Is there some setting I should maybe use to lock my footer down to a specific size?

[movol]

try putting this in your CSS section


#maincontent {_height: 0;}

might be the easiest..

[jeffu]

try putting this in your CSS section


#maincontent {_height: 0;}

might be the easiest..

Ok, put that in - did it work???

Is there any way to test when I have IE7?

Thanks,

Jeff

[movol]

Ok, put that in - did it work???

Is there any way to test when I have IE7?

Thanks,

Jeff


Nope..didn't work...u can remove it.

[jeffu]

Nope..didn't work...u can remove it.

Did I need to put something in other than 0? Would that help.

Or is there a setting for footer?

I'm not sure what the parameter is...

#footer?

[gilbert]

Did I need to put something in other than 0? Would that help.

Or is there a setting for footer?

I'm not sure what the parameter is...

#footer?
Jeff,

I have a page (prints and gifts) that is having an IE issue with the footer code I have in FF...So I adjusted this to suit...but I am not sure if it is a temporary fix...you'll have to see if the moderators approve the method (don't know if it causes long term problems).


/* temporary IE fix for the infinite bottom margin */
* html #footer {margin-top: 900px;}
You'd have to check the green to see if it pulls it up to a good spot...

You can check and play with what the code does by using the Edit CSS in Web Dev and removing the "* html" part (so FF reads it).

Since your footer appears to be in the right spot, and there is just a never-ending extra space scroll...you may have to try "margin-bottom"...OR it is something else other than the footer that would need a fix (body, whole page etc.) and I'm not sure about the style class or id for that.

If you'd like to see that bit of code (don't know how it will look on IE7!), try my prints and gifts page that is a work in progress. There was code that IE could not handle so I used the IE only line to pull up the footer. IE still needs fixes, but in 6 at least the footer behaves (similar to how it looks in FF).

Page (http://gilbertphotos.smugmug.com/gallery/2466511)
password: testpage

Thought I would add input since I used that temporary fix and it works for me...Good luck.

Jen

[jeffu]

Jeff,

I have a page (prints and gifts) that is having an IE issue with the footer code I have in FF...So I adjusted this to suit...but I am not sure if it is a temporary fix...you'll have to see if the moderators approve the method (don't know if it causes long term problems).


/* temporary IE fix for the infinite bottom margin */
* html #footer {margin-top: 900px;}
You'd have to check the green to see if it pulls it up to a good spot...

You can check and play with what the code does by using the Edit CSS in Web Dev and removing the "* html" part (so FF reads it).

Since your footer appears to be in the right spot, and there is just a never-ending extra space scroll...you may have to try "margin-bottom"...OR it is something else other than the footer that would need a fix (body, whole page etc.) and I'm not sure about the style class or id for that.

If you'd like to see that bit of code (don't know how it will look on IE7!), try my prints and gifts page that is a work in progress. There was code that IE could not handle so I used the IE only line to pull up the footer. IE still needs fixes, but in 6 at least the footer behaves (similar to how it looks in FF).

Page (http://gilbertphotos.smugmug.com/gallery/2466511)
password: testpage

Thought I would add input since I used that temporary fix and it works for me...Good luck.

Jen

Thanks! I just entered that and made the margin 2 - can someone see what that does in IE6.

This is such a pain, there ought to be a way to test in IE6 even if you already have 7.

[gilbert]

Thanks! I just entered that and made the margin 2 - can someone see what that does in IE6.

This is such a pain, there ought to be a way to test in IE6 even if you already have 7.

Hey Jeff,

Maybe the other code I put was not clear...I checked it but if this is what you added #footer {margin-top: 2px;} it will not help the IE problem...

As far as my trial and error, you have to code the IE by itself, so FF will not use the "fixes". Make sense? Basically it works in FF, but you have to style IE since it won't read the code properly...I am still trying to figure out how to do this, but this bit is worth a try until someone says it is not the way to go...If it works in IE7 I do not know if adding the code will mess that up and make IE6 work...?? We shall see...

Again, you have to put this (red) in front of your code:

* html #footer {margin-top: 2px;}

What is there now is only going to change FF...BTW, if a positive value does not give the IE fix a good margin (someone will have to check for you), you may need a negative value...but again this is just to try and see if it will at least be a temporary fix.

So there won't be any changes in IE until you add that red part in there ;)

Jen

[Allen]

Hey Jeff,

Maybe the other code I put was not clear...I checked it but if this is what you added #footer {margin-top: 2px;} it will not help the IE problem...

As far as my trial and error, you have to code the IE by itself, so FF will not use the "fixes". Make sense? Basically it works in FF, but you have to style IE since it won't read the code properly...I am still trying to figure out how to do this, but this bit is worth a try until someone says it is not the way to go...If it works in IE7 I do not know if adding the code will mess that up and make IE6 work...?? We shall see...

Again, you have to put this (red) in front of your code:

* html #footer {margin-top: 2px;}

What is there now is only going to change FF...BTW, if a positive value does not give the IE fix a good margin (someone will have to check for you), you may need a negative value...but again this is just to try and see if it will at least be a temporary fix.

So there won't be any changes in IE until you add that red part in there ;)

Jen I don't think it's something that needs to be styled. I think there is an error
like an unclosed div or something in the wrong customize box or something
in js or html not right.

[emtajim]

Can someone check my site in ie6 and make sure the frame and slideshow is working and not out of whack?

http://photography.jeffulrich.com

Thanks!

I'm at work and we have IE6. From what I can see your Gallery is a bit off centre, the "powered by Smugmug section in your footer is also off centre and when you scroll down, weeellllll, infinity kinda comes to mind. Not sure what the fix is but i'm sure someone on the forum will help sort it out.

Jim

[jeffu]

I'm at work and we have IE6. From what I can see your Gallery is a bit off centre, the "powered by Smugmug section in your footer is also off centre and when you scroll down, weeellllll, infinity kinda comes to mind. Not sure what the fix is but i'm sure someone on the forum will help sort it out.

Jim

Thanks everyone for the help.

I've added in the * html piece for now to see if that helps.

I've also redone the code for how I center the e-mail. Maybe that was the problem. I've checked all my other code.

Just let me know if that's fixed before I do something else. I really need an IE6 box to test with.

Can someone check?

[Allen]

Thanks everyone for the help.

I've added in the * html piece for now to see if that helps.

I've also redone the code for how I center the e-mail. Maybe that was the problem. I've checked all my other code.

Just let me know if that's fixed before I do something else. I really need an IE6 box to test with.

Can someone check?
IE6 no longer scrolling forever.:clap
Footer is still down about 600ppx though.

[jeffu]

IE6 no longer scrolling forever.:clap
Footer is still down about 600ppx though.

Cool! Any idea what I should put to tighten it up? Is the footer way below the "email" tag?

Also, how does the slideshow and frame look? Somebody said the galleries were out of line.

Thanks a bunch Al - I got the slideshow and frame working with your advice, you da' man.

[Allen]

Cool! Any idea what I should put to tighten it up? Is the footer way below the "email" tag?

Also, how does the slideshow and frame look? Somebody said the galleries were out of line.

Thanks a bunch Al - I got the slideshow and frame working with your advice, you da' man. The IE6 email is right with the footer where it should be but shifted down. Try
putting email in div so it can be positioned. Maybe IE doesn't like it being pure
html element in footer.:scratch Just thinkin' out of the box here.
<div id="myEmail"></div>

[jeffu]

The IE6 email is right with the footer where it should be but shifted down. Try
putting email in div so it can be positioned. Maybe IE doesn't like it being pure
html element in footer.:scratch Just thinkin' out of the box here.
<div id="myEmail"></div>

Ok - how's that?

[Allen]

Ok - how's that? Need to enclose email stuff. remove red. This is just a test, not sure if it will
help but can't hurt. Gropping for a fix.


<div id="myEmail"></div>
<div>
<center><a href="mailto:photo@jeffulrich.com" title="Send an e-mail to Jeff">e-mail</a></center>
</div>

[jeffu]

Need to enclose email stuff. remove red. This is just a test, not sure if it will
help but can't hurt. Gropping for a fix.


<div id="myEmail"></div>
<div>
<center><a href="mailto:photo@jeffulrich.com" title="Send an e-mail to Jeff">e-mail</a></center>
</div>



Ok - that's done - now how's it look?

[Allen]

Ok - that's done - now how's it look?
No difference.
Might have add height or minus margins for IE.
Something like this. Don't have time now but can try later.

"name of itme" {_margin-bottom: -200px;}
"name of itme" {_margin-top: -200px;}
"name of itme" {_heigth: 200px;}

some of the items to try
#bioBox
#ssSlide
#footer
#mEmail
#meSlideshow

[gilbert]

Are you just using the bioBox bit for IE? I couldn't tell if that was the only thing you changed...

The email/footer is just a little below where it is in FF (it's pretty close now). Meaning- just a bit of extra space between slideshow and those lines.

I don't know if this has anything to do with it (or if it doesn't show in IE either way), but your boxBottom line on the bottom of your slideshow is not showing on IE. There are two lines in FF (one on the right side and one on the bottom - they connect)...Does that make sense? Anyway, the one on the right shows, but the bottom line is not there.

If that bioBox line pulls it up, maybe just pull it up a bit more...I'm not sure if that will decrease the space BELOW the footer info...There is about half a page (no longer scrolls to infinity) of extra space below...

Maybe try to increase the bioBox line a bit more (-a little more)...AND add a line for the #footer in the same way, but just use a -300px or so?

My question for the pros is...Why doesn't that line show up? Is there something that should be done to the boxBottom?? I struggle with a lot of that stuff on my site (appears different on IE).

Seems like you're close to fixing this though.

[jeffu]

Are you just using the bioBox bit for IE? I couldn't tell if that was the only thing you changed...

The email/footer is just a little below where it is in FF (it's pretty close now). Meaning- just a bit of extra space between slideshow and those lines.

I don't know if this has anything to do with it (or if it doesn't show in IE either way), but your boxBottom line on the bottom of your slideshow is not showing on IE. There are two lines in FF (one on the right side and one on the bottom - they connect)...Does that make sense? Anyway, the one on the right shows, but the bottom line is not there.

If that bioBox line pulls it up, maybe just pull it up a bit more...I'm not sure if that will decrease the space BELOW the footer info...There is about half a page (no longer scrolls to infinity) of extra space below...

Maybe try to increase the bioBox line a bit more (-a little more)...AND add a line for the #footer in the same way, but just use a -300px or so?

My question for the pros is...Why doesn't that line show up? Is there something that should be done to the boxBottom?? I struggle with a lot of that stuff on my site (appears different on IE).

Seems like you're close to fixing this though.

Gilbert - I totally get what you're seeing. I went back to IE6 last night - I can move the footer up by using the following:

#bioBox {_margin-bottom: -400px;}

but it then gets rid of the thin line on the bottom of the bioBox - it's like the only thing you can do is cut if off in IE6 - it's not that bad - I think if you come in via IE6, you wouldn't even really notice that it's missing.

[gilbert]

Gilbert - I totally get what you're seeing. I went back to IE6 last night - I can move the footer up by using the following:

#bioBox {_margin-bottom: -400px;}

but it then gets rid of the thin line on the bottom of the bioBox - it's like the only thing you can do is cut if off in IE6 - it's not that bad - I think if you come in via IE6, you wouldn't even really notice that it's missing.

Yeah, it's not bad...AND it only appears to be on your homepage...The other pages do not have the extra space below the footer info...and it seems the lines are all there.

Try this #footer {_margin-top: -200px;} to see if it brings that extra space up on the homepage (without doing anything to the other pages...may need to tell it to do it just on that page but we'll see).

Looks much better now that it doesn't scroll forever!

[jeffu]

Yeah, it's not bad...AND it only appears to be on your homepage...The other pages do not have the extra space below the footer info...and it seems the lines are all there.

Try this #footer {_margin-top: -200px;} to see if it brings that extra space up on the homepage (without doing anything to the other pages...may need to tell it to do it just on that page but we'll see).

Looks much better now that it doesn't scroll forever!

Nope - all that does is move the footer way up and still does nothing for the bottom line of the bioBox. I've left if for you to see - if I change it to -100 or -50 it still never brings back the bottom line. The only thing that seems to tighten up that box (cutting off the line) is the bioBox margin entry.

[gilbert]

Nope - all that does is move the footer way up and still does nothing for the bottom line of the bioBox. I've left if for you to see - if I change it to -100 or -50 it still never brings back the bottom line. The only thing that seems to tighten up that box (cutting off the line) is the bioBox margin entry.

So I see! Well...it tells me something though...the footer was pulled up on other pages too...so it probably will NOT be a footer fix for the homepage anyway.

Have you played with the bioBox line anymore? Does that get rid of the extra space below your foooter info?

Overall, it's not bad if that's all you have to deal with (missing line and extra space below)...but I know how I like to get stuff working properly "just cause".

I'm not sure why others haven't chimed in...but I would keep trying to modify the bioBox and have people check it. If there is something else (other than footer) that may be causing space below...I don't know but you can keep adding some things one at a time to try and then look at it...at least until someone else shows up to give you a quick fix!!

[jeffu]

So I see! Well...it tells me something though...the footer was pulled up on other pages too...so it probably will NOT be a footer fix for the homepage anyway.

Have you played with the bioBox line anymore? Does that get rid of the extra space below your foooter info?

Overall, it's not bad if that's all you have to deal with (missing line and extra space below)...but I know how I like to get stuff working properly "just cause".

I'm not sure why others haven't chimed in...but I would keep trying to modify the bioBox and have people check it. If there is something else (other than footer) that may be causing space below...I don't know but you can keep adding some things one at a time to try and then look at it...at least until someone else shows up to give you a quick fix!!

:clap:clap:clap:barb
It works!!! I finally figured out that I need to add _margin-bottom: -400px; to the userBio parameters - now I have the line at the bottom! Looks great in IE 6, 7 and FF

[gilbert]

:clap:clap:clap:barb
It works!!! I finally figured out that I need to add _margin-bottom: -400px; to the userBio parameters - now I have the line at the bottom! Looks great in IE 6, 7 and FF

Congrats Jeff...Looks great!

I'm glad you played around with it...Everything looks good in IE...Great job!

:)

Jen