blue bird

[jwear]

I know this has to be a western blue bird but sure looks like an eastern in the book :scratch

[raptorcaptor]

Great shot Jeff!:thumb I think he's a western, but still working on his color.

[ShepsMom]

Pretty little bird!! Nice shot! :thumb

[bfjr]

Sure he's a Westie, he's posing isn't he :rofl :lol

Really crisp/clear/sharp capture :thumb

[riddim_maker]

SWEEEEET! :clap

[dbaker1221]

wow fantastic!:barb

[kdog]

I know this has to be a western blue bird but sure looks like an eastern in the book :scratch
Great shot, Jeff! :thumb

According to my Sibley book, what you have there is a female, Bright adult, Western Bluebird.

Cheers,
-joel

[Maestro]

Great composition and pose for the bird. I love bluebirds. Here in Texas we only have the eastern variety except for far west Texas I suppose.

[Harryb]

Outstanding Jeff, great details and a very nice background.

[jwear]

Great shot Jeff!:thumb I think he's a western, but still working on his color. Joel has a good point but I am still not sur it's a female the head has a lot of blue --darn birds need a nameplate :huh :D thanks very happy with this shot it was very dark in the tree

[jwear]

Pretty little bird!! Nice shot! :thumb thanks

[dallas]

Love,love,love it Jeff. :thumb :thumb :thumb

[jwear]

Sure he's a Westie, he's posing isn't he :rofl :lol

Really crisp/clear/sharp capture :thumb thanks only one I have and it may be a western hollywood --he / she :rofl

[jwear]

SWEEEEET! :clap thanks that was from the day we shot --dallas and I shot the coopers and there it was

[jwear]

wow fantastic!:barbthanks DB :thumb

[jwear]

Great shot, Jeff! :thumb

According to my Sibley book, what you have there is a female, Bright adult, Western Bluebird.

Cheers,
-joelyou may be right but after reading this I did some more looking and the female has no blue on the head [as I read it ] but again you may be right -id is a big pain in the --refer to Harrys post :D thanks see you in march

[jwear]

Great composition and pose for the bird. I love bluebirds. Here in Texas we only have the eastern variety except for far west Texas I suppose.thanks I was happy --no very happy with this one it was dark in the tree and I had time to take about 6 shots and I kept moving this was the last shot and my only blue bird -I have tried many times but failed :cry thanks again :thumb

[jwear]

Outstanding Jeff, great details and a very nice background.thanks Harry but I can not take credit for the background that is william telling me lets go that aint not raptor :rofl but I am very pleased with this one :ivar

[jwear]

Love,love,love it Jeff. :thumb :thumb :thumbthanks you remember this one we shot the coppers then I got this in the next tree

[raptorcaptor]

Joel has a good point but I am still not sur it's a female the head has a lot of blue --darn birds need a nameplate :huh :D thanks very happy with this shot it was very dark in the tree

She's a he! (definetly a westie):rofl Female is more gray overall. Not that much blue, and orange.

[kdog]

She's a he! (definetly a westie):rofl Female is more gray overall. Not that much blue, and orange.
But males have a blue throat, which this one definitely does not. :nono

[raptorcaptor]

But males have a blue throat, which this one definitely does not. :nono


Female Western Bluebird
http://raptorcaptor.smugmug.com/photos/130968101-M.jpg

Most birds come into their breeding color through wear and tear. As the lighter feather edges wear away the color is revealed. You can start to see the blue color appearing under the throat on Jeff's photo.

[kdog]

Female Western Bluebird
http://raptorcaptor.smugmug.com/photos/130968101-M.jpg


Gorgeous shot.

The Sibley Guide to Birds, page 400 shows that there are two variants of the western blue, a drab and a bright.

Yours looks exactly like the female drab western blue. Jeff's looks exactly like a female bright western blue. Juvie's are spotted and look totally different.

I'm sure you know a lot more about these birds than I do. However, I think you may be used to the drab bluebird, while Jeff's is a bright. Hence the confusion.

Edit: BTW, Sibley also notes that the male has a blue belly, which Jeff's definitely does not. Here's a shot of a male from the Cornell ornithology website.

http://content.ornith.cornell.edu/UEWebApp/images/REB_040902_00461C_L.jpg
Cheers,
-joel

[raptorcaptor]

Gorgeous shot.

The Sibley Guide to Birds, page 400 shows that there are two variants of the western blue, a drab and a bright.

Yours looks exactly like the female drab western blue. Jeff's looks exactly like a female bright western blue. Juvie's are spotted and look totally different.

I'm sure you know a lot more about these birds than I do. However, I think you may be used to the drab bluebird, while Jeff's is a bright. Hence the confusion.

Edit: BTW, Sibley also notes that the male has a blue belly, which Jeff's definitely does not. Here's a shot of a male from the Cornell ornithology website.

http://content.ornith.cornell.edu/UEWebApp/images/REB_040902_00461C_L.jpg
Cheers,
-joel

I don't have Sibley Guide with me, but check and see if the bright female has gray on the back below the head, or orange then blue. That would be the key.

[kdog]

I don't have Sibley Guide with me, but check and see if the bright female has gray on the back below the head, or orange then blue. That would be the key.
They don't really call out that distinction. However, the pictures show that the female's back is somewhat gray, turning to darker blue as it progress down on the wings by her sides. The picture of the male shows dark blue and orange, with no gray. There is text that explains "some have entirely chestnut backs, others nearly all-blue." Jeff's bird's back is in the shadow, which doesn't help. But it looks like it has some gray to me. :dunno

At any rate, if you do get a copy of the book and compare the picture of the female to Jeff's bird, you'll see what I mean.

-joel

[raptorcaptor]

They don't really call out that distinction. However, the pictures show that the female's back is somewhat gray, turning to darker blue as it progress down on the wings by her sides. The picture of the male shows dark blue and orange, with no gray. There is text that explains "some have entirely chestnut backs, others nearly all-blue." Jeff's bird's back is in the shadow, which doesn't help. But it looks like it has some gray to me. :dunno

At any rate, if you do get a copy of the book and compare the picture of the female to Jeff's bird, you'll see what I mean.

-joel

I'll take a look tonight when I get home! Another distinction would be the wings gray for the female, and blue for the male. I think we can both agree that it is a bluebird.:rofl

BTW this bird was hanging out with the female I posted earlier!
http://raptorcaptor.smugmug.com/photos/126777129-M-1.jpg

After looking at the bird books last night I realised the obvious difference between the males, and females is the white eye-ring!

[jwear]

Dallas got a hold of me and has the shot from the other side --I think this will help after he posts it --I am going with a male the head is more blue and I think you will see it in his shot or Joel will have to get more proof :deal :rofl :rofl :rofl I told you if they are not stars then they need to have name tags :rolleyes

[BigAl]

Really nice detail and exposure Jeff :thumb (can't comment on the ID as it's a bit out of my range :D)

[jwear]

Really nice detail and exposure Jeff :thumb (can't comment on the ID as it's a bit out of my range :D)thanks alot Al --the picture taking is easy it's that dam Iding that is hard some birds with the age and season ect hard to have an id we know its a western blue bird :rofl :rofl thanks again

[kdog]

After looking at the bird books last night I realised the obvious difference between the males, and females is the white eye-ring!
Ok, I give. At least I'm pretty sure my wife is a female. :scratch :rofl

Regards,
-joel

[raptorcaptor]

Ok, I give. At least I'm pretty sure my wife is a female. :scratch :rofl

Regards,
-joel

I'll have to take your word on that! :rofl

[dallas]

I know this has to be a western blue bird but sure looks like an eastern in the book :scratch

Jeff asked me to post my shot taken along with him, and maybe it can help with the ID.


http://woofwoof.smugmug.com/photos/130973306-L.jpg