5th grade basketball

[pahl]

Would love some input on these. Let me have it, good and bad. :)

#1

http://pahl.smugmug.com/photos/127318766-M.jpg


#2
http://pahl.smugmug.com/photos/127323456-M.jpg

#3

http://pahl.smugmug.com/photos/127328679-M.jpg

#4

http://pahl.smugmug.com/photos/127330613-M.jpg

Thanks,

[oldtime]

your action looks good
Crop tighter
WB is way off , Shot Raw and adjust or set custom WB for gym your shooting in

[pahl]

your action looks good
Crop tighter
WB is way off , Shot Raw and adjust or set custom WB for gym your shooting in
I also thought the WB just did not look right, even though I did use custom WB.
I even switch to tungstun WB to see the difference in a couple photos and that left everything blue looking.

I even reset the custom WB a couple different times and between games and it kept coming out the same.

thanks for the reply,

[pahl]

I would be happy to hear some more advice on adjusting the WB.
Just what are you looking at in the photos I posted that tell you the WB is way off?

I think the white and blue colors the boys are wearing look right on, but the gym floor and walls look funny along with skin tones.

[nightshadow]

I would be happy to hear some more advice on adjusting the WB.
Just what are you looking at in the photos I posted that tell you the WB is way off?

I think the white and blue colors the boys are wearing look right on, but the gym floor and walls look funny along with skin tones.
I am by no means an expert on either of these subjects, but something struck me. Most of the gyms I have been in lately have that sodium lighting which is fairly orange-ish. Doing a google search for the "color temperature of sodium lighting" leads one to believe that it is somewhere around 2100K, close to sunrise or sunset. A chart, the result of another googleing http://www.3drender.com/glossary/colortemp.htm
says that (larger) tungsten starts around 3000K. What about using a white card in the room in question or one of those WB lens cap things? In case I am all wet, I apologize in advance.

Patrick

[nightshadow]

http://www.sizes.com/units/color_temperature.htm

[pahl]

I was using a white card to set the custom WB.
Thanks for the link..

[pahl]

When setting the WB I have been taking the card and holding it down towards the floor to catch the light and set the camera.

Maybe it would make a difference if I hold it out in front of me in the same direction that I am taking the photos.

Just a thought...

[Captn14]

I agree with Oldtime..Crop tight shoot RAW...A lot can be fixed in post.
Oh yea - and have fun....To me that is the most important thing.

[pahl]

I agree with Oldtime..Crop tight shoot RAW...A lot can be fixed in post.
Oh yea - and have fun....To me that is the most important thing.

RAW it is. Next game is Tuesday night so I will give RAW a try.

I played around with RAW a bit before and it seems like a lot of work, lol..

Guess I just need to learn how to work with RAW better and start using it more.

[nightshadow]

When setting the WB I have been taking the card and holding it down towards the floor to catch the light and set the camera.

Maybe it would make a difference if I hold it out in front of me in the same direction that I am taking the photos.

Just a thought...

That is an interesting point. I haven't done much with custom WB but thought I might today. This is the first snow of the season to last past noon (its only the second), and I thought I might try to get out and take a few pictures. For other things I have shot raw and fiddled with it in the converter. I have read that taking a shot of clean snow to set the WB avoids the blue cast problem. As for the raw converter, different ones produce different results sometimes. Generally speaking, I like what Raw Shooter does better than CS2.

[pahl]

That is an interesting point. I haven't done much with custom WB but thought I might today. This is the first snow of the season to last past noon (its only the second), and I thought I might try to get out and take a few pictures. For other things I have shot raw and fiddled with it in the converter. I have read that taking a shot of clean snow to set the WB avoids the blue cast problem. As for the raw converter, different ones produce different results sometimes. Generally speaking, I like what Raw Shooter does better than CS2.

Raw Shooter is what I have been playing around with too. It seems much better then the pentax software I got with the camera.

This is what I am going to try at Tuesday's game.

Raw
convert to 16bit tiff
crop
save as .jpg
download to smugmug. :)

It's going to be more steps then I have been taking before, but if it gets me better photos then I am all for it.

[Frog Lady]

hi pahl,

I think you've got the hang of getting good action, and, as others have mentioned, once you've got the WB down, it'll really help. But definately crop tighter. It'll have a huge affect on the impact of your shots.

C.