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cmr164
Feb-16-2004, 06:01 AM
Two images from the harbour at Cannes. The first shows the working part at dusk and the second shows some folks headed back to their yacht in some choppy water. I like both subjects but the images just don't do the trick. Thus this invitation to play with the images. (as per usual click the image to get the larger jpeg)

ISO Speed: 200
Aperture: f8.0
Shutter: 1/500
Focal Length (mm): 400

http://www.iisc.com/dgrin/cannes02oct128dusk_s.jpg (http://www.iisc.com/dgrin/cannes02oct128.jpg)

ISO Speed: 200
Aperture: f8.0
Shutter: 1/500
Focal Length (mm): 400

http://www.iisc.com/dgrin/cannes02oct182boat_s.jpg (http://www.iisc.com/dgrin/cannes02oct182.jpg)

wxwax
Feb-16-2004, 09:13 AM
A very quick attempt... off to work.

http://wxwax.smugmug.com/photos/2424417-L.jpg

cmr164
Feb-16-2004, 09:54 AM
A very quick attempt... off to work.


That's an interesting thought and certainly helps direct the attention.

mystic7
Feb-27-2004, 07:29 PM
Hope this is what you had in mind for this picture.
M7

mystic7
Feb-27-2004, 07:31 PM
Or perhaps more in keeping with the time of day

Deacon
Feb-28-2004, 06:39 AM
Cropped to what I thought was the most visual and focused on the vertical elements.
http://Deacon.smugmug.com/photos/2597272-L.jpg


Deacon

cmr164
Feb-28-2004, 10:00 AM
Hope this is what you had in mind for this picture.
M7
The cropping is ok but the dusk and the sky colors are lost http://www.dgrin.com./images/smilies/bncry.gif

cmr164
Feb-28-2004, 10:03 AM
Cropped to what I thought was the most visual and focused on the vertical elements.
Deacon
Very nice crop and you did preserve some of the color... maybe try lightening the bottom but leave the rich setting-sun colors at the top to keep more

wxwax
Feb-28-2004, 10:53 AM
Good crop, Deacon, I hadn't seen that one. :thumb

cmr, where ya been? Missed ya.

cmr164
Feb-28-2004, 01:36 PM
Good crop, Deacon, I hadn't seen that one. :thumb

cmr, where ya been? Missed ya.
In the midst of moving from Waltham Ma. (USA) to Sommerville so not as much time to play :(

rutt
Feb-29-2004, 06:22 AM
http://rutt.smugmug.com/photos/2612452-M.jpg
Cropped, steepened the LAB curves, sharpened on the L channel.

rutt
Feb-29-2004, 07:20 AM
http://rutt.smugmug.com/photos/2612587-M.jpg

More LAB moves: move boad hull to neutral to remove cast, sharpen curves to bring up contract in the hills and water, sharpen on L channel. I liked the hills and especially the concave bowl, so my crop included these. I hope that the LAB steepening makes the hills more interesting.

wxwax
Feb-29-2004, 11:49 AM
http://rutt.smugmug.com/photos/2612452-M.jpg
Cropped, steepened the LAB curves, sharpened on the L channel.

I like what you did to the sky. Next step is to bring the foreground to the proper level of brightness/saturation.

cmr164
Feb-29-2004, 12:27 PM
Cropped, steepened the LAB curves, sharpened on the L channel.
Not bad. How about a little more foreground water and a little more lightening of the foreground

cmr164
Feb-29-2004, 12:31 PM
More LAB moves: move boad hull to neutral to remove cast, sharpen curves to bring up contract in the hills and water, sharpen on L channel. I liked the hills and especially the concave bowl, so my crop included these. I hope that the LAB steepening makes the hills more interesting.
Good stuff. I keep thinking there must be someway to include the owner's dingy but it is too well masked by the choppy sea.

rutt
Feb-29-2004, 02:52 PM
Not bad. How about a little more foreground water and a little more lightening of the foreground
Once again, LAB curves are the quick fix. It's easy to lighten the overly dark parts of the shot with the L curve, while adding even more contrast to the sky. Since the picture falls neatly into dark and light sections the L curve looks seep on the end, but flat in the middle.

http://rutt.smugmug.com/photos/2619781-M.jpg

rutt
Feb-29-2004, 03:15 PM
And then, just for fun, moved to CMYK to reestablish shawdows. This might be hard to see on a monitor, but I think it would matter in a print.
http://rutt.smugmug.com/photos/2620115-M.jpg

cmr164
Feb-29-2004, 04:35 PM
Once again, LAB curves are the quick fix. It's easy to lighten the overly dark parts of the shot with the L curve, while adding even more contrast to the sky. Since the picture falls neatly into dark and light sections the L curve looks seep on the end, but flat in the middle.


Playing with light is what makes it all fun isn't it. You are in the Boston area but I don't see any info in your profile. Some of us who ride get together sometimes and JimF and I have done a photo afternoon together at the Museum of industry.

lynnma
Mar-01-2004, 02:08 PM
Playing with light is what makes it all fun isn't it. You are in the Boston area but I don't see any info in your profile. Some of us who ride get together sometimes and JimF and I have done a photo afternoon together at the Museum of industry.Hi Charles,

wanna crop?:D

cmr164
Mar-01-2004, 03:17 PM
Hi Charles,

wanna crop?:D
Sure, but do you have a bigger image to work with? If you can't put it up on smugmug or somewhere, then email it to me.

lynnma
Mar-01-2004, 03:29 PM
In the midst of moving from Waltham Ma. (USA) to Sommerville so not as much time to play :(Oh boy Charles... you have my sympathy. Betcha didn't realize how much "stuff" you have.:D
Lynn

Sam
Mar-01-2004, 07:41 PM
Hi Charles,

wanna crop?:D
OK, here is a quick crop.

wxwax
Mar-01-2004, 08:19 PM
Did somebody say 'crop'?

komet
Mar-01-2004, 09:36 PM
The above images of the building by Sam and Wxwax are kind of apples and oranges...depending on desired emphasis and effect....they both have merit. It would be difficult to say one looks better than the other without defining the parameters of the desired goal. Can someone define the goals of cropping? No doubt, it helps to have a large target to begin with........no?

fish
Mar-01-2004, 10:11 PM
The above images of the building by Sam and Wxwax are kind of apples and oranges...depending on desired emphasis and effect....they both have merit. It would be difficult to say one looks better than the other without defining the parameters of the desired goal. Can someone define the goals of cropping? No doubt, it helps to have a large target to begin with........no?
Allow me to add a tangerine.

wxwax
Mar-01-2004, 11:57 PM
The above images of the building by Sam and Wxwax are kind of apples and oranges...depending on desired emphasis and effect....they both have merit. It would be difficult to say one looks better than the other without defining the parameters of the desired goal. Can someone define the goals of cropping? No doubt, it helps to have a large target to begin with........no?

Well, I think the point of the shot is the small, old building to the left. It's an interesting contrast to the tall, modern buildings which surround it. Unfortunately, the light doesn't help tell the story. So you crop the house into a powerful position (on a third) and keep the shot vertical, to emphasize the tall buildings.

cmr164
Mar-02-2004, 05:38 AM
Well, I think the point of the shot is the small, old building to the left. It's an interesting contrast to the tall, modern buildings which surround it. Unfortunately, the light doesn't help tell the story. So you crop the house into a powerful position (on a third) and keep the shot vertical, to emphasize the tall buildings.
My concepts were more along the lines of...

komet
Mar-03-2004, 12:52 AM
It's amazing the different perspectives to be gained from the above experimentations...they are all good...just different.