dkapp owes fish a dollar

[Andy]

well, i did it. i purchased a power mac. the 2.5ghz big-boy, and the 30" cinema display :lust :lust :lust

i saved a ton of money http://williams.smugmug.com/photos/11389300-Ti.gif http://williams.smugmug.com/photos/11389300-Ti.gif, if anyone's interested, just pm me. oh and i'm buying the ram from crucial not apple, that also saves about $500 or so.

dave, you owe (http://www.dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=43222&postcount=91) fish (http://www.dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=43213&postcount=89) $1 payable in coin of the realm :lol3

a very sincere thank-you to pathfinder, dkapp, patch, fish, davidto, tmlphoto, lynnsite, cmr, david_s85, sam, pyogenes (stay away from alienware!), dj, pdg, mhjs, rutt (that ibm display is so cool!), ian and rob...

and i cannot forget gubbs, humungus and sid for heckling me from the sidelines http://williams.smugmug.com/photos/11416929-Ti.gif

in this very long thread (http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=4564&page=1&pp=20) where i tried to make up my mind.

enjoy (switching brands after twenty years) photography,

[wxwax]

Ooh, you went for the big display! Congratulations, Andy, way to go!

[Andy]

Ooh, you went for the big display! Congratulations, Andy, way to go!


yeah, you really like throwing my cash into that fire, dontcha? :lol3

[fish]

Well it's about time! :clap


Congrats...yer gonna love it. :nod

[DavidTO]

well, i did it. i purchased a power mac. the 2.5ghz big-boy, and the 30" cinema display :lust :lust :lust

i saved a ton of money http://williams.smugmug.com/photos/11389300-Ti.gif http://williams.smugmug.com/photos/11389300-Ti.gif, if anyone's interested, just pm me. oh and i'm buying the ram from crucial not apple, that also saves about $500 or so.

dave, you owe (http://www.dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=43222&postcount=91) fish (http://www.dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=43213&postcount=89) $1 payable in coin of the realm :lol3

a very sincere thank-you to pathfinder, dkapp, patch, fish, davidto, tmlphoto, lynnsite, cmr, david_s85, sam, pyogenes (stay away from alienware!), dj, pdg, mhjs, rutt (that ibm display is so cool!), ian and rob...

and i cannot forget gubbs, humungus and sid for heckling me from the sidelines http://williams.smugmug.com/photos/11416929-Ti.gif

in this very long thread (http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=4564&page=1&pp=20) where i tried to make up my mind.

enjoy (switching brands after twenty years) photography,

Very, very cool. Congratulations. That's a wonderful set-up. Just remember, you didn't switch, you upgraded to a Mac! ;)

Here's my $.02 on the care and feeding of your Macintosh. (http://homepage.mac.com/david_rosenthal/MacintoshTroubleShooting.htm) Those steps should keep you trouble free and happily computing.

[Andy]

thanks david, i'm starting a file on mac stuff.

1) what about my browser favorites? how do i import them from pc to mac? i use avant browser...

2) my external drive is formated ntfs, i'll have to offload, and reformat for fat32, yes?

[DavidTO]

thanks david, i'm starting a file on mac stuff.

1) what about my browser favorites? how do i import them from pc to mac? i use avant browser...

2) my external drive is formated ntfs, i'll have to offload, and reformat for fat32, yes?

You'll have to wait for someone else who upgraded to Mac to help you with those, I'm afraid. I can help you with most thing Mac, but I have little knowledge about that stuff.

Lynnesite can also answer those kinds of questions.

[DavidTO]

Have you actually taken posession of it?

[Dee]

I can't believe you were brave enough to get a Mac!!!!!! I'm so proud of you :clap

Let's see a photo of this setup when you have it all together. My daughter got her Mac and 23 inch display through the friends and family discount plan! :-)

See, now you have the best of both worlds! -- Oh, and why not get Virtual PC for your Mac so you can salvage some of your PC software, or keep your favorites until you discover new Mac programs. With your super power and speed the slower Virtual PC probably won't be noticed...

Congratulations! And I hope you learn to love your Mac.

Sorry I can't help you with any of the technical stuff since I've only ever had Macs in my family, but I'm sure others will be able to help out. Oh, and don't forget the Mac forum on PC review, they are a very helpful bunch and can answer some of your questions, I'm sure.

Andy with a Mac?

:clap :clap :clap

[DavidTO]

I can't believe you were brave enough to get a Mac!!!!!! I'm so proud of you :clap

Let's see a photo of this setup when you have it all together. My daughter got her Mac and 23 inch display through the friends and family discount plan! :-)

See, now you have the best of both worlds! -- Oh, and why not get Virtual PC for your Mac so you can salvage some of your PC software, or keep your favorites until you discover new Mac programs. With your super power and speed the slower Virtual PC probably won't be noticed...

Congratulations! And I hope you learn to love your Mac.

Sorry I can't help you with any of the technical stuff since I've only ever had Macs in my family, but I'm sure others will be able to help out. Oh, and don't forget the Mac forum on PC review, they are a very helpful bunch and can answer some of your questions, I'm sure.

Andy with a Mac?

:clap :clap :clap

Stay away from VPC. From what I hear it's nothing but headaches, and opens your Mac (at least the VPC part) to the same attacks that plague peecees.

[Dee]

Stay away from VPC. From what I hear it's nothing but headaches, and opens your Mac (at least the VPC part) to the same attacks that plague peecees.

I haven't used Virtual PC in years and am not sure how the Mac firewall would work with it -- protects it or not?

If Andy were just using software on it, and not getting e-mail, would he still be vulnerable?

Personally, I think going cold turkey is best -- just use the Mac -- but it's a huge transition so I thought VPC would help in the transition. Didn't intend to give bad advice.

[Andy]

Have you actually taken posession of it?

nah, apple's gotta build it i guess, takes 1-2 wks, that's okay. i'm in london this coming week and then california the week after, so i won't have time to mess with it until janaury 16th anyhow :D

[luckyrwe]

Where in CA will you be? I want to push you in the water. I mean I want to shwo you where I work near the water. :D

[Andy]

Where in CA will you be? I want to push you in the water. I mean I want to shwo you where I work near the water. :D

silicon valley, mostly. los gatos area.

and, :lol3

[pathfinder]

thanks david, i'm starting a file on mac stuff.

1) what about my browser favorites? how do i import them from pc to mac? i use avant browser...

2) my external drive is formated ntfs, i'll have to offload, and reformat for fat32, yes?


I always kept an external CD with a copy of my favorites and cookies from Windows Internet Explorer in the XP world..

You can export them from IE in XP by clicking File>Import and Export> which gets you to the Wizard and then it is just a matter of exporting your favorites and your cookies to a CDR.

When you get your Mac you can then import the favorites into Safari or Firefox. I downloaded Firefox from Mozilla.org for the Mac and imported my favorites and cookies into it. I left Safari bare with only the new favorites I am adding in the MAC world. That's just the way I do it, but there are lots of others I am sure.

Congratulations and welcome aboard Matey :thumb

Apple hard drives are formatted with HFS+. If your external drive is Fat32 OS X 10.3 should be able to read it. It wil not read NTFS I think. I just use a seperate backup drive for the Win XP machine and keep the LaCie for the mac.

[fish]

silicon valley, mostly. los gatos area.

and, :lol3

details...we need details. i would love an opportunity to get some candids of you embarrassing yourself. Oops...I meant I would love an opportunity to capture your inner beauty in a set of flattering portraits. :D

[Andy]

details...we need details. i would love an opportunity to get some candids of you embarrassing yourself. Oops...I meant I would love an opportunity to capture your inner beauty in a set of flattering portraits. :D

i'm really slammed for the week but i expect to get out on monday night 1/10 and shoot with steve, and eat dinner. hell, we usually just eat, b/c it's so damn dark :D

one plan, if i'm lucky, i'm free at 3pm and we haul butt up to the city. innerested????

[lynnesite]

I always kept an external CD with a copy of my favorites and cookies from Windows Internet Explorer in the XP world..

You can export them from IE in XP by clicking File>Import and Export> which gets you to the Wizard and then it is just a matter of exporting your favorites and your cookies to a CDR.

When you get your Mac you can then import the favorites into Safari or Firefox. I downloaded Firefox from Mozilla.org for the Mac and imported my favorites and cookies into it. I left Safari bare with only the new favorites I am adding in the MAC world. That's just the way I do it, but there are lots of others I am sure.

Congratulations and welcome aboard Matey :thumb .

Yep, let me add my voice to the chorus--I helped my client order just that setup today, with 4 gb of RAM.

Safari import--yeah, export your favorites to favorites.html. On the Mac, open Internet Explorer, show favorites, file/import and add them.

The first time you open Safari, it looks for and imports IE favorites. They're stored in a bookmarks folder called "Imported IE Favorites". If you want to do this later and have opened Safari already, go to Users/you/Library/Preferences and kill the Safari.plist file.

Path's idea sounds pretty good though.

Lynne

:clap

[dkapp]

Very very cool andy :clap

Fish:
Lets go to Starbucks, my treat. Looks like I owe you a dollar :D

Dave

[luckyrwe]

I work that weekend. :cry

[PerezDesignGroup]

Great news, Andy. I know you won't regret it :thumb

[ian408]

I went to the Apple store today to look at a few machines. I was kinda shocked at the premium you pay for upgrades from the basic models on display.

I looked at the G5's and the powerbooks. Out of curiosity, I opened an image
of a polar bear, re-sized to 2000 px then applied a 100% spin radial blur using
the "best" setting. All I can say is that the lowest end box I looked at makes
my PC look dog slow (it is).

Not sure when I'll pull the trigger but it's probably going to be soon. I want to
confirm that the PS license transfers. Some time back, I'd heard that once you
activate the PC version, you could not exchange it for a mac verison.

One other thing I noticed is that certain image manipulation programs offer
better color control on the mac platform (C1).


Ian

[Andy]

Well it's about time! :clap

Congrats...yer gonna love it. :nod

i sure hope so :D

thanks for your help

[lynnesite]

I went to the Apple store today to look at a few machines. I was kinda shocked at the premium you pay for upgrades from the basic models on display.

I looked at the G5's and the powerbooks. Out of curiosity, I opened an image
of a polar bear, re-sized to 2000 px then applied a 100% spin radial blur using
the "best" setting. All I can say is that the lowest end box I looked at makes
my PC look dog slow (it is).

Not sure when I'll pull the trigger but it's probably going to be soon. I want to
confirm that the PS license transfers. Some time back, I'd heard that once you
activate the PC version, you could not exchange it for a mac verison.

One other thing I noticed is that certain image manipulation programs offer
better color control on the mac platform (C1).


Ian

I always tell my clients to get the "middle" of the three towers usually offered. The machines on display may not have additional RAM, and some of those powerbooks come with only 256! You know how that wouldn't work so well with PS.

According to Adobe's site they are cross-platform exchangeable.

Lynne
and the entry level aluminum G4 PB w/ 1 GHz & CS

[ian408]

I always tell my clients to get the "middle" of the three towers usually offered. The machines on display may not have additional RAM, and some of those powerbooks come with only 256! You know how that wouldn't work so well with PS.

According to Adobe's site they are cross-platform exchangeable.

Lynne
and the entry level aluminum G4 PB w/ 1 GHz & CS
I made another pilgrimage to the holy shrine today and I guess I wasn't
wearing the requisite black clothing or maybe it was the baseball cap?
Couldn't get anyone to help me if I beat them with my wallet. Seriously.
Even after I asked. I must have waited about 15-20 minutes before leaving.
Needless to say, I won't be buying a mac from the mac store as that was
one of the worst shopping experiences I've had recently.

Anyway, there are cards next to each machine with three or four options.
Instead of choosing from the list, I think they encourage you use the configuration tool on the website (how to up-sell 101). There are more
options available to you than the card. Plus you get the latest list of
available stuff--so this would seem to be an advantage.

I'll shop around a bit for a better price (we have a employee purchase
agreement with a couple of vendors that are good for 10% or so).

Thanks for the PS update! That's the one thing I can cross off the list.

Ian

[pathfinder]

I made another pilgrimage to the holy shrine today and I guess I wasn't
wearing the requisite black clothing or maybe it was the baseball cap?
Couldn't get anyone to help me if I beat them with my wallet. Seriously.
Even after I asked. I must have waited about 15-20 minutes before leaving.
Needless to say, I won't be buying a mac from the mac store as that was
one of the worst shopping experiences I've had recently.

Hang in there Ian. I did the radial blur filter that you describe on the FMiranda website. My time was 20 seconds. Dual processors rock!

I am sorry that you had that experience. I had just the opposite in Indianapolis. A young man spent almost an hour and a half answering my questions and finally told me that the configuration of a G5 that I wanted was not available in the store and suggested that I order it online which is what I did. I suggest reviewing the options online at apple.com rather than taking something off the shelf unless you get a lot better price or something. Apple does give discounts to students and to teachers.

Anyway, there are cards next to each machine with three or four options. Instead of choosing from the list, I think they encourage you use the configuration tool on the website (how to up-sell 101). There are more
options available to you than the card. Plus you get the latest list of
available stuff--so this would seem to be an advantage.

Like I said above. The stores tend to have the basic configurations in stock and if you want the RAM maxxed or the Hard drives raided I think you are better off online. The stores are a good resource for information. Usually. The Indy store has presentations almost every day - I wish I was closer to Indy to take advantage of their presentations, they seem quite helpful to newbies and to old pros.

I'll shop around a bit for a better price (we have a employee purchase
agreement with a couple of vendors that are good for 10% or so).

Thanks for the PS update! That's the one thing I can cross off the list.

Ian

When I spoke to Adobe support for my MAC version, they asked me if I wanted to transfer my XP license to MAC and I told them that I still wanted to use it on my laptop. If/When I buy a G5 Powerbook I plan on swapping my license to the MAC then.

[ian408]

Thanks PF!

I sure hope my experince is unusual. But as I said, there are several
options. Including, gulp, Fry's :D

Ian

[lynnesite]

Thanks PF!

I sure hope my experince is unusual. But as I said, there are several
options. Including, gulp, Fry's :D

Ian

Don't go to Frys. The guy that sells you the mac may have sold shoes yesterday. And they don't stock many configs.

That's an atypical Apple store experience; their satisfaction rate is quite good from buyer reports. I met a customer there before Christmas to buy an iMac G5 and iPod, and had a good experience as usual.

Have bought 90+ percent of the Macs from Mac Zone, dealing with a corporate rep the whole time, as a way to not pay retail on anything except the Apple-branded stuff, and to get better customer support. It was really great in the years that they didn't charge sales tax! :-)

Lynne

[ian408]

Don't go to Frys. The guy that sells you the mac may have sold shoes yesterday. And they don't stock many configs.

Once you know what you want, where it comes from is irrelevant :D But then
again, I hate Fry's and really only go when I have to.


That's an atypical Apple store experience; their satisfaction rate is quite good from buyer reports. I met a customer there before Christmas to buy an iMac G5 and iPod, and had a good experience as usual.

That's good to hear. Maybe I should look for another one?

Thanks again for the help!

Ian

[Andy]

apple emailed me, it's on it's way. i should be happily appling by the end of the week :clap

[patch29]

apple emailed me, it's on it's way. i should be happily appling by the end of the week :clap

Woo-Hoo, party at Casa de Andy this weekend. :clap

[lark]

Congrats! Once again your life just got better!
I have the G5/2.0 & 23" Display and though not as sexy as the new stuff, plenty sexy for me for the time being.

Did you get 4GB ram? that seems to be the magic number-had less and spent too much time looking at a spinning "processing" wheel.
One thing I did do (recommended by a friend) that has helped alot was to install a second-faster(10000rpm) drive for my software....ie.all software goes on the Raptor Drive (it's only 75GB, but way fast.....and besides when I go above 75GB of application software, I've got another kind of problem)
All of my other work, including my company is on an internal 80GB. All of the pictures and video clips are on an external Western Digital 120GB. With weekly backups to another 120GB external.
I feel like this set up just screams, but truthfully I have nothing else to compare it to. It's really subjective, I guess I could pull out all the stats again (I did lots of research,too), but I only have this one comuter here and it feels like the fastest one I've ever had, feels like it'll keep up for a while.

I go on about this cause as you (and others) have found out, a 1DsMKII REQUIRES an major computer upgrade for processing and more storage -my JPEG's run 40+ MB - unless you are running close to the top of what's out there anyway....how's that for a hidden cost?

Don't know if any of this rambling helps....welcome to a new club!!! The G5!

By the way, look inside the G5 body and see how beautiful and elegant they designed the insides also..it's amazing!

Enjoy!

[lark]

PS....is anyone else finding operating the 1Ds MKII........quite a handfull ?

It's not nearly as intuitive as the 20D or for that matter my SonyF828. That said....but ohhhhhhhhhhhh the pictures.
I'm not about to give up or even frustrated, it's like I just started playing a brandnew game w/ this camera.....am I alone?

[ian408]

PS....is anyone else finding operating the 1Ds MKII........quite a handfull ?

It's not nearly as intuitive as the 20D or for that matter my SonyF828. That said....but ohhhhhhhhhhhh the pictures.
I'm not about to give up or even frustrated, it's like I just started playing a brandnew game w/ this camera.....am I alone?
No, probably not alone. Just in a small group :D

BTW, one of the nicest things about Apple products is the industrial
design. I was looking inside the G5 and was wondering how much time
they spent getting it to fit together so nicely. It's a beauty.

Ian

[fish]

dave, you owe (http://www.dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=43222&postcount=91) fish (http://www.dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=43213&postcount=89) $1 payable in coin of the realm :lol3



I've yet to see a single penny of that money, btw...:cry

[dkapp]

I've yet to see a single penny of that money, btw...:cry

I tried :dunno


Fish:
Lets go to Starbucks, my treat. Looks like I owe you a dollar :D

Dave

Dave

[DavidTO]

I tried :dunno



Dave

If I were Fish, I'd hold out for Peet's.

[fish]

I tried :dunno


Tried how? :scratch

[dkapp]

Tried how? :scratch

I take it you don't want coffee. Just give me your addy, and I'll quit asking. :D

Dave

[Andy]

I take it you don't want coffee. Just give me your addy, and I'll quit asking. :D

Dave

dave, i can send the smaldone bros. out from brooklyn, if youse know whaddeye mean :deal

[fish]

I take it you don't want coffee. Just give me your addy, and I'll quit asking. :D

Dave

beer.

[luckyrwe]

Beer? I quit drinking and have alllll this beer sitting here getting old. The good side is look at how fast I can now save for the 300/2.8!!!

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